96-year-old woman accused of Nazi war crimes is caught after fleeing trial - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- A 96-year-old woman who was a secretary at a Nazi concentration camp is in custody in Germany.
She was arrested after going on the run from her care home, to avoid charges of complicity in the murder of more than 10,000 people.
Irmgard Furchner was a teenager when she worked for the commander of the Stutthof concentration camp in occupied Poland.
Sophie Raworth presents BBC News at Ten reporting by Berlin correspondent Jenny Hill.
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She’s literally 1 hp, im pretty sure she don’t mind at this point
Yeah it's ridiculous really. I just have this imganine off her hobbling away as fast she can
She did mind, based on the fact that she did try to run away.
hahahaha 1 hp :P
It's an embarrassing way to die for anyone. Imagine losing all your reputation in the last months of your life.
Yeah. 1 bop and she dead.
96-year-old woman "going on the run" is hard to imagine. How fast could she run?
Have u ever seen a German?
@@bobcatthekittykat1075 ? Yes and?
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BBC ? Informative content ?
Nice one Pam 😂😂😂😂
Surely a 96 year old woman would go on the hobble ! 😃👍
And it only took you 76 years to bring her to trial... impressive.
Very impressive indeed
Yes it is disgraceful and all lived a good life with family I'm sure.
76yrs .. No one bored looking ?
They should turn her into a lamp shade.
@@fdrstan Or soap, or gloves, or riding breeches...l
There’s something so amusing about the image of a 96 year old “fleeing” and actually succeeding… unless it’s Dick Van Dyke I just can’t picture it 😂
Yeah you gotta admire her spirit!
They should let her go. She's 97, not even the same person she was then. Plus she was 16 years old. I was dumber than s*** at 16 years old.
@@werenotfree4841 we are not free , as you know apparently
@@werenotfree4841 most likely brainwashed into it as they were and that still happens with extreme groups, the brainwashing
She sped off on her little shopping trolley.
If only they were so diligent in chasing corrupt politicians
Right ??? Our priorities are somewhat crossways
Two very different situation and shouldn't be mixed. They are being held accountable for thousands of muders for the part they played. And corrupt politicians in America are going through a sht storm. Slow justice.
Vacuous comment
@@jcja902 When the Germans occupied the British Channel Islands and had their first encounter with the authorities there, to their surprise and inconvenience they were informed that the police had rounded up the small Jewish population, largely workers and tourists from the mainland. They had other priorities. Still, I suppose it's the thought that counts. I don't recall similar zeal in pursuing those responsible.
@@jcja902 corruption also kills millions of people world wide.
German justice is swift.
There isn't really much of a difference between a prison for the elderly and a care home for the elderly anyhow.
Swift? Bruh.
swift? took'em 80 years
But it was expected of them at the time! Now we are going back down this road!
But there is a difference between dying accused and going in peace
@@timikher
Eh, she can go in peace.
I know this sounds stupid but I can’t be the only one hoping to see her actually run
Bones of glass
Not stupid at all. There's a complete lack of empathy present from the pro prosecute lobby who have had the benefit of an education fortified by monumental national shame that the accused lacked. We can't try Germany through her. Germany was wrong, its people at the time largely complicit and the country to its credit has never complained, paid voluntary reparations to Israel and only perpetrated what other European nations lacked the efficiency, where with all and zeal to, but the potential was there. Perhaps the UK can argue Cable Street and the French the backlash from the Dreyfus affair to set them apart, Norway, Denmark and others, took a notably anti antiseptic stance, but a strong undercurrent of prejudice against minorities has always existed in Europe.
They rather arrest old frail dying people than rapists and murderers
Django Leo what rapists and murderers?
@@francessimmonds5784 Lol you have a lot to learn about this world
96 year clerk, convicted for war crimes.
Unit 731 butchers: hey, let's bring them to US, take their data, make them rich, turn a blind eye.
Forgiving mass murder to own the commies
Geesus, I forgot about them. You’re right. America has been broke for awhile
Well america nuked them haha
reading about Unit 731 made me sick. it's a shame that people don't know about the extent to which Japan committed disgusting war crimes during WW2.
@@KumaKumaKyun US prefers to demonize just the germans, don't think i ever seen a discovery/national geographic documentary about them.
Nazism is truly abhorrent, but I can't agree with prosecuting someone who was barely more than a child completing administrative tasks when she probably had limited choice or freedom not to comply, and probably had limited understanding of the crimes being committed. I suspect most of us would have complied with the system like she did, much as we would like to think otherwise.
Exactly what I was thinking.
@Speaking FACTZ wtf are you on about, who has been arrested for not taking vaccine?
Zionism is worse
@@plo8450 Lol he sounds like one of them assburgers bichute guys
Reminded me of the movie The Reader
I'm glad we're arresting a 100 year old person who was drafted to work at a concentration camp 80 years ago as a secretary, we're so much safer now
"We" aren't doing anything. *They* are.
Brace up for peaceful blasts in your vicinity. Cheers from Asia
What retarded logic, so because someone got away with a crime for 50-70 years we shouldn’t punish them?
@@Fishfingers232 what a retarded logic, should i put you in prison sometime in the future because you are not standing up to the opressions around the world?
she could not do anything at the time other than following orders
@@kaka1894 well he is not a secretary , unlike him she had a bit bigger power at the time. and unlike him she was working for the nazi party.
If I was 96 I wouldn’t go down without a fight either
I laughed 😅 thanks
@Investigative Audit ... in hell
@@darthdead97 she probably didnt have a choice to kill all those people
@@UKDrillTV. doesnt matter
@@darthdead97 Not.
When we're young, we're nothing but a victim of our environment, all we can do is cooperate. I'm only 30 but i feel like a completely different person from the one i was at 18... now imagine 96, i bet she barely recognizes her former self.
It's difficult to comment without meeting or knowing her, but absolutely, my thoughts and earlier contributions somewhat endorse your point.
That doesn't make you innocent of the crimes you committed when you were young
@@oscarnn7278 OK, but then how much more complicit is she than the entire nation at the time? What were her options to remain with an unblemished character? Germany is wracked with guilt, its authorities too eager to atone by trying the crimes of a nation through one hapless frail lady well advanced in years.
She did commit this crime after all and being a victim of your environment is tragic but it doesn‘t excuse you from being held responsible for your actions
@@olivero.1877 She is a teenage secretary. She isn't shuffling people into the chambers. Or turning the switch on. She is a pawn of forced labor for the regime and if it wasn't her collecting papers it would be someone else. Ridiculous trial IMO, unless there is some revealing evidence (which there isnt)
Are both Bush and Blair still on the run??
They're
🤣🤣🤣
Exactly you're right
No but Blair's son has just made 160 million in a business venture, maybe he can pay for his father's mistakes!
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... no, they're on the ... living in unfettered luxury.
So if she being convicted of mass murder in a war how comes Tony Blair ain’t been nicked then
WHY NOT BOTH?
To the tower they should go .
@Jörg Van Floydmann I don’t vote I’m not a sheep
The jury is still out on that because too many people are busy chasing former secretaries on zimmers, adept at flagging down taxis. So we'll have to get back to you on that one.
Don't forget about Bush, and Cheyney, and Rumsfeld.
"Nazi Granny on the run" would be an amazing story to make a movie out of.
I'll watch it.
Ze vun zat gott avay! Marathon Gran.
You can thank me later.
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XD
"Low speed chase ends in hospitalization for war criminal"
"The accused took off in a mad shuffle for the door. Fortunately, due to the state of the world now days, we replaced the doors with heavier steel bodied doors. She was able to open it but the door was heavy enough to knock her off balance on her way through, shattering her fragile nazi era hip replacement like a kinder egg in a hungry toddler's hands."
Well played!!!
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What the fuck did you write
She ran from a care home to avoid prison? Let's reword that: she ran from one prison to avoid another prison.
If they were both the same why would she run to avoid it?
@@laurencefox5884 Hunt those soldiers and officers that worked in gulags too.
@@talisdorman.9796 How about the far right death squads in Latin America (and the American Corps that funded them)? I would go after every filthy criminal whatever political front they chose to put up. And how about those people who deployed Agenct Orange in Vietnam, or the US Soldiers in Abu Ghraib. All of them.
@@laurencefox5884 Your intention is but snatching anyone that has the slightest relation with the crime is very cruel, right after you executed all of those people you were involved in the massacre too.
The question is who called the taxi for her🤣😂😂
I wonder if she was trying to escape from the court… or escape from her nursing/care home… “this place is awful, can you take me home?”
I work at a care home and most of the residents have tried it at least once. Even the ones with late stage dementia have
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Well in Europe our elders doesnt live like in USA or Uk which are like hell there.
@@tinotrivino What do you mean like hell? You mean to tell me your care homes are wildly different or better etc?
Yeah if they send her to Jail it will be an upgrade!
It’s weird why they choose to prosecute a couple of fleas on the ass of a donkey after all these years when 100’s of more senior players were allowed to build atomic weapons build cars and deal in fashion diamonds and gold and live their lives in luxury without issue?
Yes, if there is $$$ to be made then they were headhunted for their skills. I'm sure if this woman could have provided some kind of service or skill that could generate profit, then she would have been paid handsomely and everything swept under the rug decades ago. Sadly, the way of the world... :(
You could start asking the US and UK governments why they protected them...
Then get awards ...ie nobel Peace prize, etc .. ffs
It's easier for them that way. It's not weird, it was a choice
Living in peace in Argentina.
Germany, saving the world by convicting their own grandmothers for serving as secretaries of death. I just feel the tidal wave of justice washing over me.
they aren't saving the world, just bringing out justice to those who deserve it
@@achyuthansanal If you’re going to charge her you should charge every single German WW2 soldier still alive
@@alexcatch2436 if they were SS then game on!
Since when has war rules?
@J.L. Torres yeah, but let me remind you, war is over since 76 years and locking up old sick fellas, whats the point? By the way, do some research on project paperclip and you will understand my sceptisism. Maybe then you will understand why the nazis, led by Werner von Braun, were the first people in so called "space" ;)
Germany does this to wash away it's collective guilt. What choice did a teenage girl have. She was a secretary and worked for the authorities.
How is prosecuting nazis washing away guilt? So with your logic, nazis shold not be bothered and that is how germany stands up for its "guilt". Dude you are completly lost...
@@WohnzimmerIQ Calling a 96 yr old woman who worked as a secretary when she was a girl is a huge overstep, simply being German and working does not make one a nazi
@@WohnzimmerIQ Should we prosecute the people who worked at tanks and weapons factories too?
@@NautilusSSN571 no and they are not beeing prosecuted because there is a difference between a tank factory and a conzentration camp
@@WohnzimmerIQ even if you work as a secretary? Do you have any idea how many people German tanks and weapons killed?
The very elderly can revert to being children.
A very interesting legal quagmire
Oi Charles what you doing on this channel? Do you have a TV license?? Papers, please!
Does that make them a different person? When you hit 18 do you instantly mentally become an adult and all past crimes are thereby forgiven? Someone has to answer, but she hasn't been charged, but absconding her trial isn't going to work in her favour is it.
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@Armin Von Klass thanks Armin, too kind
I’m not sure how reasonable it is to hold a teenaged secretary to account for genocide. Presumably it would have been impossible to challenge, even if she knew the extent of what was going on, and very difficult to leave the situation. I’ll be interested to hear further details of the case.
Funny how you lot don’t have the same standard for literal children that get groomed to join isis.
Shamima Begum anyone? Oh wait , she’s not white.
Yes what if she had no choice or face death herself. I feel she is being scapegoated. I'd need more proof she was complicit of her own free will.
@@nuriben7910 yea I always thought that about shamima too, had she have been white I doubt any body would have cared about her coming back lol..... most probably just don’t even feel she belonged here inn the first place.....
@@jamesten9409 Jihadi Jack, I rest my case
@@jamesten9409 yes but it’s because the country’s majority white so it’s relatable to them, look at the Nazanin Zaghari the amount on little media on that has me thinking she is a spy where’s the public outcry for her, if she was white blonde and more relatable there would be, it’s natural more then racist
I want to see Nazis brought to justice just as much as everyone else, of course I do, I'm Polish. However, the idea of expecting this lady to stand up to the third reich as a sixteen year old is laughable.
Exactly. She was a secretary for fucks sakes, not Josef Mengele. Might as well prosecute every young person who grew up during Hitler or Stalin's reign.
Good point.
She didn't have to work as a secretary. She could have done other things. She made a horrible mistake. I'm not sure what it's like in Poland but in the USA, assisting to murder is a horrible crime, and you will not be allowed to walk free simply because you were not holding the gun.
@@grassgeese3916 I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying
@@grassgeese3916 By that logic, everyone working in a munitions factory in any war should be charged with accessory to murder. Should have just found other work and let their families starve if they couldn't. Hell, most German soldiers (or Allied soldiers who also committed warcrimes, for that matter) weren't even prosecuted, merely held in POW camps for a few years before being repatriated. There is no valid reason to prosecute someone, much less a teenager, merely for the crime of working a menial job in a dictatorship they lived under, much less 70+ years after the fact in my opinion.
“Man I hope this job typing out letters doesn’t have any consequences in the future!”
Lmao
Be a secretary they said …
it shouldn't
what's this? making letters in Germany during ww2! thats a war crime.
At her age, really, what has she got to lose by showing up for trial? She has had 80 years of freedom, and she can't do much anymore anyway.
Office worker not mass murder
@@jimmunro4649 lmao. Every piece of shit associated with the Nazi state deserves to hang!
@@EdilbertFernando so literally every german alive during that time?
@@2cv693
Morgenthau Plan, if you want something from before the war Germany must Perish, or something before the 20th century, Germania est Delendam.
It's not a new thought, nor one that started with WWII.
@@EdilbertFernando the same applies for the allies that "were" just following orders on committing war crimes lol
I think convicting a teenage secretary is overboard.
its extreme.
They believe in revenge against amalek and all that. some of them dont like Palestinians because they think they're cannanites from 2000 years ago and still want revenge for something in their fictional story
I think being responsible for 1000s of deaths is a bit extreme
This isn't about justice. This is about revenge.
@@nadjiguemarful Gott Mitt Uns Komraden.
She probably won‘t even face jail time this is rather a symbolic act
What about communist sympitisers. We all remember gulags and starving of milions.
@@skoldmo762 We have similar things under capitalism, it's just that first world countries export the starvation to the poor.
@@aminulhussain2277 excuse me what? What about all the benefits people get from our tax money?
@@skoldmo762 So it's okay to murder people because it's profitable. Got it.
@@aminulhussain2277 i dont know about your goverment. But that is not how my goverment works. 56% tax so the lower income can live an decent life
Wow i really feel safe knowing that a 96 year old granny got locked up for being a secretary
Heh that guardian pfp bring me back.
@@klanox3747 Just feels like a waste of tax money chasing after a literal corpse
The lawyers are the only winners here.
And the Nazi Fourth Reich Collaboratirs in Israel , who no one calls out for their current third Reich imitating vacccine forced/ coerced/ medical failure vaccines human experimentation and two tier society Hitler midel ala1939 which enabled the later genocide of Jewush people. Exceot, thecJewish Collaborators, of course.
And the Bankers
I don't think they are able to afford top lawyers. The prosecution are probably benefiting more bc they are able to set up future cases better
Hollywood will make billions by making a movie out of it. Then Wokes will herald saying "Tax the Rich" by wearing million dollar dress.
@@brendahines9634 wake up
Hey I just hope I can "go on the run" when I am 96. Knowing my luck I will only be able to "go on a shuffle".
I can hear the bones breaking 😭
That could very well depend on the standard of nutrition you had at a younger age.
@@janosk8392 Along with genetic issues within the family such as cancer or heart disease, exposure to toxins withing the environment such as living next to traffic congestion, avoiding mental deterioration such as Alzheimer's or dementia as well as avoiding any other accidents that could cause long term injury or paralysis.
@@janosk8392 you can’t avoid degradation
If you can even walk by then, or be alive.
Meanwhile Tony Blair and Bush are out there receiveing state money
Are you truly this stupid?
She was just 14 when the war began. By its end, her whole formative life had been in war. Ridiculous to pursue a formal trial. She could be thoroughly "de-briefed" and questioned to record what needs recording
Indeed! Many of those who worked for the nazis never really had a choice. I don't mean that she's any less culpable, but really, what does the world gain from putting a 96 year old lady on trial that we couldn't learn from - like you said - having her de-briefed?
@@tessiepinkman if you are guilty your guilty no matter what age or how long ago it was .
14 is old enough to know right from wrong, and she was older than that when she worked at the concentration camp.
Stop trying to excuse those who have committed war crimes. She’s been allowed to live a long, happy life, and it seems that she never did anything to try to make amends for the crimes she committed. As a matter of fact, her going on the run means that she clearly doesn’t accept any responsibility for her complicity in the death and torture of thousands of innocent lives. Even if she was just “young and naive” (a ridiculous excuse, especially since she was an adult when she worked at the camp), she should have later felt bad, tried to make amends, and accepted responsibility as for her crimes, but she didn’t. She deserves to be held accountable for her actions. She has been granted more leniency than those innocent people whom she happily ever saw tortured and executed.
Being young and naive is an excuse for nicking a candy bar from the shop, not for committing war crimes for evil, fascist extremists. We’ve recently undergone this same question in modern times, with the case of Shamima Begum, and the overwhelming majority of people think that she shouldn’t be allowed back in the country, even though she only ran off to join ISIS as an underage teenager - younger than this woman was when she worked at this concentration camp. Just like this Nazi woman, Shamima Begum should be held responsible for her actions because she decided to join an evil, fascist group, and help them carry out their war crimes (even if only in an indirect way), when she was old enough to know better. And again, Shamima Begum has even more of an excuse than this woman does, because she was at least underage, whereas this Nazi woman was an adult at the time of her complicity.
Many Germans at the time knew that the Nazis were wrong, or at the very least, declined to help them in anyway. This woman knew exactly what she was doing, and did it anyway. She deserves to be brought to justice. Let those who commit war crimes against the innocent know that they can never escape their actions - even if many years have passed.
@@justanotherhappyhumanist8832 Very well said !
@@justanotherhappyhumanist8832 your grasp of history is naive so perhaps having a real time perspective will help you. Right now in Afghanistan there is a 14 year old girl being asked to sit behind the desk in a Taliban prison while the men carry out heinous crimes. The 14 year old girl could protest but she is acutely aware that doing so could result in torture and death not only to her but to her loved ones. It's all very well taking the moral high ground when you have lived a privileged life and have never experienced the horror of war.
So she was 14 when she was probably forced to work there, ahhh grow up lads, she didn't have a clue what she was doing 82 years ago
But how will you know unless she stood trial? And if she really didn't know, why did she flee?
A lot of people in Poland were eager for the Nazis to take power so that they could kill their Jewish neighbors. Many of those who worked with the nazis directly were volunteers. In some Polish towns Nazi soldiers were overwhelmed by the fervor with which the civilians greeted them and killed their neighbors.
She was 14 in 1939, but Stutthof concentration camp
(were she worked) operated until 1945, and in other news reports says that she is being accused of helping in crimes commited when she was 18-19, so it must've been during the last year of operation of the concentration camp (1944-1945).
Old enough for me.
George Soros _also_ committed anti-Semitic crimes of comparable magnitude when he was a teenager. When is _he_ going to be prosecuted?
@@explorer47422 This process is going on over a decade. She is 96. Maybe she just forgot and wanted to go into the city, drink a coffee, visit a park ? If you want to tell me that every 96 year old person knows exactly what he/she is doing than please visit a nursing home ...
When are they going to start holding current day Israelis accountable for their actions?
Ahh holding Israel's
For crimes against Palestinians? It veal nevv. Are. Haypin..
Don't worry God will hold you accountable for your actions
In 76 years time?
@live and let live maybe its israel that should learn how to coexist with others
Bravo
They want to condemn her when she was only a teenager under the control of someone else? Pathetic
Yet they'll try and defend people like Malika Bryant who was in the process of trying to stab another girl or all the criminals gun down by police who were trying to go for a weapon
Interested in your thoughts on shamima begum?
@@jamalwilburn228 I don’t know anything about that or it doesn’t come to mind right now anyway but yes people are always interested in punishment and that’s all just because they can’t handle themselves and that goes both ways an eye for an eye.
@@samueltphillips again, she was young. That an intelligent state would deny youth lack a sense of and any experience with reality? An intelligent state wouldn’t. But a cheating one would. Needless to say, the state isn’t intelligent. What it’s done is taken a citizen and said ‘not my problem’ when in fact it’s responsible for shaping her life. If she’s of an inner strength, she’ll go further than what it only does.
absolutely...She was probably brainwashed by all the propaganda at that age
She was so fast fleeing that trial that nobody actually saw her do it.🤪
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When will Xi be charged with being complicit in killing over 5 million people?
Perhaps they should charge his secretary? 😂😂
People get 'charged' when they lose. Xi doesn't look like losing any time yet.
Charged by who?
@@0IIIIII LOL for real who does this guy think is gonna charge him
Xi jinping didn’t kill anyone. There was a cultural genocide but little murder was committed. Also, what does that have to do with anything mentioned here.
@@ssik9460 "Cultural" genocide? It is a genocide. He is a murderer.
I'm from Germany and that's a joke.As if our officials didn't have some 50 years to prosecute all these stone old ppl to charge them while living a good life.
Now it is pathetic and almost seems like a crime as well
It IS
Watch europa the last battle
Yeah it's pathetic and cruel. So usual business in Germany.
Danke Sohn/ Shon(?). I think there must be something to this case.
@@cyberverse9141 Lol, edgy little nazi cosplay fantasists.
Hard earned tax payer dollars at work: go catch war criminals
Government: best I can do is 96 year old grandma
Nazi had no mercy for elderly or children. They did not care who they killed or how old they were.
Wrong
96 years old, give it a rest FFS. I doubt a teenage girl typing letters is accountable for any deaths.
This is genocide we're talking about. Like to see you say this to any of the Jewish victim's families
@@_XPERIA_ The woman is 96, what justice do you think can be dished out at this point? Jailing her will probably kill her, so it's not justice that's being sought after...... Its revenge.
@@_XPERIA_ Oh, but I can say to ANY Jewish family the following:
1. PROVE!, stage 1, WHATEVER CRIME AS _PER_ THE NÜRNBERG TRIBUNAL' *SENTENCING* SHE IS *GUILTY* OF.
2. Stage 2 *SQQ.* : only AFTER succesfully passing *stage 1* .
@@djguy100 it's treating her as any other adult who has had to face the consequences of her actions would do..
Your argument is they should do nothing because so much time has passed - out of interest, what is the time scale before being an employee of a political party that has murdered millions rules out any consequences void?
@@_XPERIA_ She was a teenage girl working as a secretary, she wasn't a soldier, she typed letters and pushed papers. Would George bush's secretary also be jailed for the hundreds of thousands of dead in Iraq? Or how about the Israeli canteen workers who feed the solders who are committing War crimes against the Palestinians?? By feeding the Israeli soldiers they are facilitating them to be able to commit war crimes. See where this goes if you apply it to everyone.
Well congratulations, you caught someone who's gonna be dead this time next year. What are you honestly going to punish her for? What is the point, that time has long since elapsed. The argument for just following orders is still applicable, you can sit in sanctimony but don't deny you wouldn't have done the exact same thing in her position, it was do your job or get shot, for most people, not a hard decision to make.
She had a choice. She could have chosen not to work at a concentration camp like the at least 70,200,000 million other Germans did. She could have done literally any other job. Also, she could have asked for a transfer, there's plenty of records of other guards doing so, while there's zero records of an SS officer ever being pushed, let alone shot, for wanting to do so or even disobeying orders.
@@jaco3394 I bet you're vaccinated, and you also wear a mask?
@@SurvivalAussie EXACTLY! I hope people are smart enough to get this
@@SurvivalAussie love how you bring a topic into something that were not even going on about congratulations you sir have won the “I’m an Idiot” award.
@@jaco3394 are you the same person you were when you were 18?
“But by just being part of the Nazi regime they were judge complist” lol
Then shouldn’t every German soldier and citizen should be arrested right now?
😂😂My hope in humanity is fading fast.
There's a difference between a German soldier who fought miles away and a secretary working at the concentration camp and being a part of that operation.
@@yalibiran5941 should the paper mill workers where the paper that the sectary wrote on be arrested as well? Seeing how he was part of the operation? And if not then at what arbitrary distance to the camp's operation should we draw the line?
@@jackster2568 Were the paper mill workers working at a concentration camp?
@@yalibiran5941 yup I’m sure ur up to scratch with her life story
@@Nn-3 I see, the second you enter a site you will bear the full consequences of what ever happens. Good idea.
Building collapses because of a bad design? The apprentice should bear as much of the punishment as the architect because he didn't say no.
Whenever someone says Jews are forgiving, show them this!
Imagine going after someone who is 96 years old simply because they worked as a secretary as a teenager for the wrong employer.
Who the fuck in their right mind ever say that Jews are forgiving?
@@kaikart123 absolutely noone
The small hats will get what's coming to them
I oppose this trial wholeheartedly. Being taken as a secretary when she was a teen, she had no choice. Even if she did, she lived a full life of hers either haunted by the past or coming at peace with it. There is no point in trying to punish her, or correct her, let the lady go in peace. This trial is nothing but a political gesture and that's unsettling.
In the 1950s she was arrested as a suspect but denied all knowledge of being in the concentration camp. So she is a liar as well. She could have asked to be transferred to a non-SS unit but she didn't - and for that she should rot in jail.
Hatred towards Jewish people is common in Islam unfortunately
Not all ex-nazis are haunted by their past. Many of them still believe what they did was right. And in my opinion, that is the question here.
@@robertromero9488 In every religion.
@@budekins542 if you're living in a time period where anyone associated with the nazis would get hanged, you would lie too...
This is a joke.This will really make things all better.She’s 96 years old!
Yes it is it will send a message to all rascists
@Lalo From what we know she was between 14-20 and was a administrative secretary. Not like she ordered them to kill people or actually grabbed a gun and executed someone.
@@idkwhy_0779 she was working in a death camp and by that she was supporting it
@@olivero.1877 Most people in Nazi Germany didn't know about the atrocities until after the war because of propaganda.
@@olivero.1877 Also, most jobs in Nazi Germany during the war contributed to the war so with that being said, with your logic, we should start trying everyone who's still alive from that time.
It’s interesting that the guy who performed the executions wasn’t arrested but secretary is.
Frrrr😂
Both commandants were arrested and tried for their crimes. The first was tried and hanged in 1946. The second was imprisoned in 1955 after first escaping custody. In 1946, 30 officials and guards were convicted and either executed or sentenced to life imprisonment.
It wasn’t one person doing the executions. It was a system involving many intended to end the lives of millions. Those who gave the orders at Stutthof were punished. The subject of the video is just one among many who have faced trial because of their involvement.
@@AfMettana facts
@@AfMettana ruclips.net/video/LVZWuri5gCo/видео.html
@@vkrgfan Reichhart did escape justice but he is just one out of many who did not. His subsequent work for the US after the war was shameful. He willingly carried out executions for the Nazis and should have faced justice. However, the failure to make one man face justice does not mean that making others face justice is strange. The actions of the Allies that allowed some nazis to go free (so long as they worked for the allies) was shameful. That does not change the fact that those complicit in the regime should still be brought to justice.
Edit: spelling
Germany 1945: thank you for following our orders
Germany 2021: you are under arrest for following our orders that we forced you into
Is there really any point if she was a bloke named Wernher Von Braun she would be head of NASA and lauded as a genius
Precisely!
Must had had a healthy stress free life to live to 96.
Tru
a few nazi gold bars or a bag of tooth gold is helpful to make life easier;)
German's live long lives anyway.
It's like when the pope smiles and says war$ produce happy happy afterlives in the sky while evading level playing field forms of debate about it.
@UN KNOWN what, you don't really think that violence and pandemics produce happy happy afterlives in the sky do you?
What does a scam look like to you? Do you think that 9/11 really produced afterlives? Really?
What are they going to do, sentence her to life? She only has about 1 year left in her life lmao
Literally lmao
well, better late than never
She will be dead before her trial! Lol......
petty hunt in the name of “justice” lol it’s sad actually… it’s like waterboarding a 100 year old war criminal who can’t remember their own name
If only Covid hadn't cancelled her flight to Argentina...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Also wasn’t she 14/15?
Shouldn’t she be treated as a child in court then?
That seems unfair if not 🤷♂️
If you think that's unfair look into the specifics of alot of nuremberg trials
Dafuq kinda 14-15 yr old becomes a secretary of a concentration camp?? No one becomes promoted to that level at an especially young age unless their skilled or other means.
That's why she was due at a juvenile court.
@@djbluebird7245 She was a stenographer and typist for Nazi Paul-Werner Hoppe, hardly a senior position.
@@garethhanby She couldn't be a typist for anyone else? It had to be in a death camp?
Why chase after an old woman, whatever she has done, this isn’t any justice. This is bullshit!
So time shouldn't matter about a crime next you'll be saying knowone should be punished for what they did to the Jews saying gthry were only following order's, get real times no excuse
@@lloydlovell8431 she's practically already dead bruh. Why waste money on a person who can die in a week.
Facts. Not to mention how many Nazi's got a free pass and lived lives till their dying day.
@@lloydlovell8431 we work until we die. If we don't work, we don't have an income. If we don't have an income than we face homelessness and possible violence/abuse as a side-effect.
She found a job during war time? Right?
If your country is at war, what exactly are someone's options for employment?
It's a bunch of spoilt brats working on these cases... Disconnected runts who've never had to face a situation like that in person... As far as they're concerned there are no risks for refusing to do a job... Just leave and land in mum & dad's hefty pockets
This is complete bullshit and a pathetic display of justice gone wrong
Edit: especially as a young woman.. what would be her other options? Prostitution...
We're putting these kinds of "war crimes" under a 21st century lens... That in itself is demented
Germany: "follow us, we can win the war and gain freedom"
Germany now: "why would you fight for your country?"
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Uk now why should we fight for anything we will just all sit back and take what the government throws at us and is taking away from us
@@nicholawright317 That is every country right now! It is only going to get worse. Look at Australia right now to see where we are all going!
@@tamitami9275 only if the people allow it. Too much money and too much corruption going on everywhere
WTF? Even if she was aware of all the atrocities, she was a teenage girl, she couldn't stop them. She was probably afraid for her own and her family's lives. Or brainwashed to believe it was acceptable. She didn't actively take part did she?
If simply knowing was enough for complicity, then every German over the age of 12 at the time should also be charged. Surely the issue was, could she do anything about it? Now when will the charges for Palestine begin?
Let's just get one thing straight, everyone that worked in those death camps had a choice. Members of the SS who wanted to be transferred out were not penalised, it was completely optional and considered quite a comfortable position if you could handle the horrors. People chose to work there because it was good money and prestigious.
There were teenagers who fought against the Nazis and were beheaded because people like her did not stand with them. These people used their privilege to enable mass genocide and human degradation. They are NOT blameless. Did this secretary not write reports? Was she deaf and blind?
Probably not as much freedom for a woman at the time? You guys describe her situation like you were there but we quite simply don't know.
To be honest with you, this should have been done decades ago, not when the suspect is nearing her final moments of her long lived life.
@@ReviewBoard-uy5nv yea but what can one teenage girl do to stop it not everyone is that brave to stand up maybe she was afraid for her own life and as you said those who did got beheaded
@@juice6521 Hold on, let me just find a job that doesn't help the german war machine in 1943 germany that will allow a woman to work there and feed her family, EZPZ. No coercion going on there, no way. Thank you for correcting the record.
But for real something has to be wrong with you mentally to be so angry and vindictive about a 96 year old secretary. You should see a psychiatrist, you are not right in the head for angrily making all these replies trying to justify something like this.
To anyone who's had to go through the displeasure of reading this guy's seething comments, he's made about a couple hundred of them trying to "debunk" anything that could possibly make a 96 year old woman on her deathbed who worked as a secretary any better.
I can't believe I'm actually saying this but I literally think I've witnessed faster load times on internet explorer
Hahaha, your comment made my day!
When you on the winning team (allies) is not a war crimes. It only consider a war crimes when you lose the war.
~The Allied.
The Germans were ruthless during the war murdering everyone including children… and I’m not just talking about dropping bombs from the sky I mean executing them in their homes so please stop it
@@christianb8228 shut up already
@@christianb8228 Bombing of Dresden, 13-15 Febuary 1945. Very little Strategic targets, huge civilian populace, slaughtered. Allies got away with it all. Don't dare act like the Allied forces were Angels. Never forget, the first war crime which was broke was when a American bomber, bombed a 'Wolf pack' of German U-boats, helping allied civilians off a sinking naval hospital, knowing full-well what was happening. The Germans had the red cross raised on their Submarines, in daylight while also annoucing their activites on a radio signal accessable and heard by all forces in the local area. This made it so Nazi high-command gave out a order to ALL German Naval Forces to NOT rescue stranded civilians or like-wise.
@@christianb8228 and remember, the USA never did any warcrime in the middle east, HAHAHAHAHHAHAA
Concentration camps are called sweat shops these days, and Israel is attempting genocide
But she was a teenage civilian worker... is it just me who thinks this is mad?
A teenage civilian worker at a concentration camp. The video states that she worked under an executive and either had the orders pass over her desk or written herself. She knew what was going on.
No
No you’re not the only one.
She didn't Have to join the SS. She could have joined some non-SS unit. In the 1950s she was questioned as a suspect but claimed no knowledge of being in that camp. So she's a liar as well. She's had her long good life - now the chickens have finally come home to roost. .
@@budekins542 Von Braun head of Nasa, who cares when we got some pointless secretary to prosecute.
Yeah go arrest Bush aswell, picking on a administrative secretary 😂
Germany arrest American ex president? That's not even possible
I dont get this why charge a 96 old woman who was teenage secretary? She had nothing to do with the mass genocide, she simply just ordered files and documents. What I also dont understand is how it took them 76 years to convict her of war crimes
@Rik rik So:
1. PROVE!, stage 1, WHATEVER CRIME AS _PER_ THE NÜRNBERG TRIBUNAL' *SENTENCING* SHE IS *GUILTY* OF.
2. Stage 2 *SQQ.* : only AFTER succesfully passing *stage 1* .
@Rik rik completely agree mate, I mean just let the old ones live in peace now, most of em live secluded which surely symbolizes that they regret anything and everything they did in their past to stay away from others. But yeah, to charge a old woman who worked as a secretary at a death camp is so stupid its unbelievable
Atrocious
What decision making authority did a teen age girl have in Nazi Germany?
Expanded use of complicit could then cover grocers, gardeners, railroad maintenance workers on prosecutor's whim.
Yep, the entire population that live since 1939 should all get punished then
@@kaikart123 yep then they doing exactly what the facists did.
Much more than a Jewish person at the time, so yea..
1:35 If it were that simple, there would be charges for the invasion of Iraq; Even for the lowest soldier.
Except Iraq war is worse. None of those murderers were drafted.
These WW2 teens were forced into their roles by draft.
Exactly!
@@ChristinaFromRUclips And so many of the US soldiers were forced into it by the *economic draft* .
This feels like a waste of time at this point unless you played a pivotal role in the killings, especially if you were a teenager and your country was being occupied/controlled by the Nazis
Watch The Gretest Story Never Told.......
@@JamesSmith-vz8yr Garbage. Holocaust denying losers like you are forced into the RUclips comment section while the real history remains in the universities and libraries.
There are more important things.
George Soros _also_ committed anti-Semitic crimes of comparable magnitude when he was a teenager. When is _he_ going to be prosecuted?
No German who worked in those camps was forced to be there.
The way the World's gone since 2020, kind of expected someone would've brought her out of Retirement.
@Klaus Schwab
That's the most self-deprecating Comment ever (and the funniest)!
@Klaus Schwab
Tsk. That Adolf gets everywhere...
She was a teenage secretary for Christ sake, and in those days in most countries 21 was an adult.she would have been considered a minor.
A minor who killed 10000 Jews have some respect for the lives lost smh
in those days actually "considered adult" was 18, and not "21". And you could actually join military at 17 and to become a fully-responsible soldier. And if you marry those days (at least for males) at the age of 16, your legal adult age would be at once reduced from "18" to "16". Those eternal children that would never become adult (even in their 30s and 40s) would not appear till the late '70s in the most of the Western world.
@@jamiegotti8436 She didn’t do anything wrong. These people said they worked for the Nazis because their families needed money considering Germany was already in ruins back then. And notice how you opt out the gentile victims.
@@psychedelicpayroll5412 or a forgot you where there right I apologise sorry 😐
I understand the need for justice but don’t let this turn into a witch hunt
what justice? she probably didnt even have a choice about working there considering there was a draft
She knew exactly what happened there. That’s why almost 80 years later she still has the wherewithal to abscond in a taxi.
Any teen would be complicit, no one would take a teen girl seriously if they objected anyway this is all a bunch of wasted effort over nothing. To think 99% of the general public would have done any different in that situation is ridiculous.
They wouldn’t - look how everyone wears a face mask 🤦🏼
I think most people would do anything they are told by authorities.
Its why they actually got on the trains too. No one ever says "they shouldve refused to get on the train!!!" Do they?
But a 13 year old was supposed to say no to a conscripted secretarial position? K
Shamima Begum was a teenager too .....
@@maryelisabeth7167 True and its still an arguement to reducing her punishment but she lived in the UK and made a conscious choise to goto Syria. Most Germans were caught up in it as it happened at home so they couldn't really escape it.
@@maryelisabeth7167 yes. And Brainwashed.
But theres a huge difference in not trying someone for murder and allowing them to live on taxpayer dole in a nation they hate.
No-one left to reap their vengeance on? Going after teenage secretary's now, this really is a sad piece of journalism, i believe in one thousand years the future generation will look back and pity the job wasn't finished
Ohhh aren't you edgy. Why dont you get the ball rolling Mr scary keyboard Nazi
You disgust me sir
Michael is right, the same people who are supposed to be the victims are doing the same thing themselves to the Palestinians
@@kaikart123 ayy man god said it was ok for them to do it, just let them
“Visitors are left to imagine the cruelty, the inhumanity of the place…” Visitors can go to Gaza and see it first-hand.
ain't the same
@@rafe3028 oh yeah sorry its not the same cause its arabs getting killed, not the "holy people"
🅱️oyim
Hear hear!!
And Rotherham
Unable to punish mass murderers of the present time, so punish a nearly mummified old woman to save the face of Justice.
I’m sure as a 21 year old secretary she would have had the power to stop the genocide from happening 🤔
It’s pathetic, they 75 years to catch her. Leave her alone.
YES. And after the war many of the higher ups lived happy ever after....
She is not on trial for not preventing the killings but for being actively complicit in them.
@@maurice7618 They were different times in a different country. The National Socialists were the elected government - it's not like this teenage girl could have stood up to the Nazi's. It's easy to judge from the safety of your armchair
@@_Too_Late as many commenters have already explained in other threads, Germans who worked in concentration camps did so willingly and wheren't forced to. If she was forced to, she won't be convicted. Same as with any other crime.
@@maurice7618 I didn't say she was forced to, only that she was working for her government which was elected by the German people, and was carrying out her prescribed duties. Life isn't a movie with clear heroes and villains, where lazy armchair viewers pass judgment on clerks for being on the wrong side of history, acting as if were they alive at that time they would have stood up to injustice and tyranny and everyone who complied is evil. Most of Europe either surrendered or cooperated with the Nazis. This persecution of an old woman from the war generation, to signal their virtue, is reprehensible
"They see me rollin, they haten patrolling and trying to catch me riding dirty"
I have very funny story to tell which I never forget.......I used to work window tint and I had to go to old age housing and while I putting tint on window and then 95 years old sweet widow man came to me and said he quit smoking three months ago because old single ladies don't like smell smoke and thats how he decided to quit smoking at age 95 years old....I was thinking...gee don't he think its too late? But anyways.. hes a sweetheart.
😂😂😂😂😂 That's a great story. I worked in a nursing home a few years ago and the stuff the residents would tell me was both heartwarming and hilarious. I just love little old people.
He was probably a nazi that should have been arrested for microaggressions
That’s a sweet share
@@00Bunner me too!
just let these people go, they were teenagers and are now in their late nineties, putting them in prison now is pointless, you should have done it 70 years ago when this was relevant, now you punish old people for this they cant even remember.
And even if they can remember, what's the point? She was a teen, what could she do? It reminds me of the movie Land of Mine where teenage Germans were forced to clear landmines as if they were war criminals, so sad to see there's people enforcing such trials...
If she couldn’t remember why was she trying to flee?
@@ryansmith4494 it has come out that she has dementia so she could have been fleeing because unicorns were attacking her.
@@klokar21doesn't matter.
Dementia doesn't mean she didn't willfully participate.
Would you let a man who raped twenty women free because of dementia?
@@ryansmith4494 is this a joke post? if a guy raped 20 women over 70 years ago and cant remember he did it because he is mentally impaired of course they wouldn't go to prison, there is not a developed country in the world that wouldn't
Really? She's a 96 year-old woman who I guess was just a secretary I mean come on that's a little extreme isn't it
Trying her for simply ignoring crimes as a teenager
She was a Nazi
Blaming a teenager for not standing up against a regime that murdered 20-million people? If they didn't order or carry out violence, they're not guilty of anything but being in the wrong place at the wrong time. These people have probably dealt with more than enough grief in their lifetimes. Just leave them alone and let them enjoy what little they can of their final years.
For real bro. the same people convicting her wouldn't do anything if they saw a bully bullying someone they would be too scared, there pathetic
What's the point of arresting a 96 year old if what they did was when they were in their teens. They probably regret it as well.
She was conscripted too. She had no choice. She was 13 years old.
We don't even let 13 year olds drive but we will punish them as adults for murder if they are forced at gunpoint to be a secretary.
Sick world
@@ChristinaFromRUclips virtue signal has gone too far
This is absurd, she can’t even walk by herself…
@mindy a 🤣
so what
I bet most of those people in the camp couldn’t walk by themselves, and yet they were executed. The same should happen to her. She was an accomplice to Crimes Against Humanity
What's really absurd is her saying she had no idea what was going on at the "camp".
Prosecuting someone who was a teenage secretary is just virtue signalling. How much power could a teenage secretary who worked for the government possibly have had.
Aye she would have had little audience to exercise any influence over brass within her scope as a kid. Basically, no choice but to do what she's told, and shutup about that, or else.
How to be sure that we are not participating in a criminal regime nowadays?
It is impossible if the tables turn we sure are screwed for watching atrocities happen in regions like Israel/Palestine. There are millions of people constantly under prosecution in the world at this moment.
What a woke waste of the court’s time.
She was a teenager then and a 96 yr old now, imagine you’re 96 and society wants to crucify you because of that secretary gig you did as a teen in the 40’s. This woman probably has no idea what is going on.
I'd hardly call Sandy Hook a gig, let alone running a concentration camp
She's 96 years old. Prosecution at this point is stupid. She'll be meeting her maker shortly and answering for her crimes.
If she did any "crimes". Remember inoccent until proven guilty.
What crimes? Only some humans see that as a crime, for the maker it will be fine. She didn't order or do any killings.
A bit late isn't it. She's lived her life to the full so she's got nothing to lose. Justice has never really been served for any of those that died at the hands of the Nazi's. Xxxx
I'd prefer justice being served for the tens of millions that there's actually proof that died at the hands of communism
Have you heard of the Nuremberg trials?
@@uberwayz US prison system still practices slavery, how about you actually campaign for justice instead of some shitty idea of revenge?
She does have something to lose, that's her freedom, justice must be served!
She's 96 for heaven's sake! What could she possibly be sentenced to? A life sentence? A community service? Make public amends? This is ridiculous.
It's the same reason that bill Cosby was tried even if he is old as dirt
german prisons are pretty nice. better than an old age home anyway. the fact that she tried to run doesn't help her case.
"secretary" imagine arresting someone for that...
What choice would she have had as a teenager?
If she'd have refused to work for them, what do you think would have happened to her?
"A 96 yr old TV presenter has been accused of Reading a Script. In her defence she said
"I was only doing my job...."
She Heilled a cab to get away.
LoL
The woman is 96 she probably had no choice in the first place leave the woman alone
"she called a cab"
you missed a great pun there :(
What pun?
@@nrop000 good one
@@nrop000 *sigh* this isn't the right piece for puns.
At least she didn't make a one way train journey.
Fastertrack yes it is, making fun of nazis is based.
I'd like to know how many of these people actually wanted to do what they did. Chances are for most they were simply trying to stay alive. Being forced to do something to stay alive is different than complicity to murder.
... and if these low-level functionaries had objected and refused to do their jobs, what would have happened to them?
LOL That's an interesting world view. Sad, but interesting.
@@brendahines9634 Seek help.
@@andrasujlaki6551 by a firing squad
There were thousands of jobs to be filled that didn’t involve concentration camps. Don’t chalk it up to forced labour these people had a choice but hated Jews just as much as any other German.
@@solless2504 Nope. Once a nation decides to wage " ... total war!" the job market (outside of being a soldier or working in a munitions/weapons factory) instantly dries up. When she was young, this woman likely had no choice, unless she was happy to go homeless and/or starve.
Like god damn, she’s almost dead, chill.
They’re a bit too late to the party she’s 96 😂 concentrate on today’s crime clowns
I remember watching a documentary and she was in it. She never felt any remorse, she never saw anything wrong with what she was helping them do. THATS WHY she is being charged. There were many in her shoes, but they came forward and helped in the Nuremberg Trials thats why she is being charged and not many others were.
That’s the best argument for prosecuting I heard so far and I still don’t think they should go forward.
Not sure how anyone could feel remorse for something they had no chance of influencing.
If she really was saying she was OK with it that's different.
But that Begum girl that went out to Syria as an Isis bride said exactly same thing about beheadings and I have not heard anyone say that she should be put on trial.
But also remember that she would have been subject to several years of Nazi conditioning before coming to that conclusion
She was just doing a job, most people do their jobs without having to think hard about it.