The fact that Madara awakened sharingan not when his 3 siblings died but when his friendship with hashirama broke tells me how precious his relationship with hashirama was.
@@jacehendrix864 You just made that shit up lol. There's nuance. There was probably an accumulation of shit that lead to him awakening his Sharingan. Honestly every character we've seen awaken a sharingan, didn't do so because someone died (not talking MS). It seems less associated with sadness and anger and more associated with nuanced emotional dilemmas.
@@ohIear actually I didn't make shit up he awakened it because he felt betrayed and because he lost a really good relationship sure a mixture of both but get your facts straight before u say I'm making stuff up
@@unl3tric yea when they were kids after the ambush scene he awakened his regular sharingan but after tobirama killed his brother he awakened his monkekio sharingan
As far as I'm concerned, Tobirama was the only one who didn't have a ridiculous power like sharingan or wood release. He was pure skills and creativity. And he owned Uchihas.
Exactly. His pure intellect, cunningness and skill alone made him the fastest shinobi and one of the strongest along with Madara and Hashi during their time.
tbh i rather watch a minato previous generation about minato's backstory and how he developed the rasengan and other techniques because his backstory or harashirama the first hokage series
@joey23 Because Hashirama and Madara are just bad rip-offs of Naruto and Sasuke. They suck. There is never gonna be a prequel about them specifically. They should make one about this era but focus on other characters like Tobirama, Mito, Toka, the Uzumaki clan, etc. Hashirama should just be a side-character. And Madara and the stupid Uchiha who already hijackes Shippuden should be in the background. Fans don't care about them anymore.
Also konoha: Is the reason the 4th war started and how it ended Seriously, the godly ones only live in konoha only does no one realise this Madara, hashirama, og gods Obito (one of the reasons the 4th war started) Naruto, sasuke Teuchi, the ramen god....
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 all the other villages copied the leaf village system as it was the first village so of course all OGs will live there.
To be fair the Hokage usually assigns missions based on how skilled a team is so young shinobi (who are protected by their teacher anyways, usually a jounin) don't see any real danger until they have gathered up a lot of experience and know their stuff In hashirama's times people younger than kid Naruto were sent to die in these fightd.
When you think about it aren’t all humans related to a certain degree I think that’s what the show was trying to show about war over time we separate into clans or countries but overall we are all descended from the same distant ancestor regardless of our distinguished traits
Honestly, the moments where Madara instantly ran to the girl who had fainted and when he yelled at Hashirama over the name thing are so painful. He _was_ that genuinely good person once, he fully believed in Hashirama as a friend and their dream as legitimate, and yet he was manipulated into trying to destroy it. The Uchiha were victims of Zetsu's plotting for literal centuries.
Bro not bcz of that zetsu plan or plot worked bcz of senju or villager who mistreated the uchiha even after forming village villager attitude of fear against uchiha remained and mistrust uchiha too you can literally see tobirama badmouthing uchiha and madara to hashirama infront of madara of being hokage this created a sense of fear in madara mind for his clan which lead to all of this and become a stepping stone to zetsu plan If tobirama didn't badmouth uchiha and madara I am sure madara would still be in village and become a good shnobi even. Tho hasirama become hokage he would still accept it bcz inside madara respected hashirama every much Madara left village bcz he found out how uchiha being still. Mistreated by some villagers and senju especially tobirama That even hasirama also found out and try to convince madara he will control tobirama action if it went too far against uchiha which isn't really a optimistic solution either mistreatment on one mid about clan can be solved through action Later madara was right about intentions when one of tobirama disciple danzo ordered to masscare a whole clan with no excuse or prep measures to solve things without blood spill So you may ask it's uchiha fault to conduct a coup but just think being oppressed for years ,given no authority position,and left behind in corner of village even tho they are former clans for years Uchiha where mistreated for year made them to go a civil war they been oppressed for years and the village didn't notice or consider it as problem but keep on pushing them away
Damn Tobirama really went and mastered water style jutsu purely because it was the current meta against the Uchiha. Then when he felt that wasn't enough he made the flying rajin the new meta. Tobirama is just built different.
Well he's been fighting Uchihas for years, it would be stupid for anyone to at least not develop some counterattacks to do so during all that time. He's not really all that smart, a lot of his fans are just dumb to basic reasoning.
Pretty impressive that Hashirama beat Madaras perfect Susanoo without Sage mode and his buddha statue. Just goes to show how ridiculously strong Hashirama is
They didnt show us the full fight. He may have resorted to it later. I think it's more impressive Madara awakened a Susanoo like that without the Rinnegan like Sasuke did. Then again hes a lot older than Sasuke here. Naruto and Sasuke arent even legal adults so it isnt fair to compare them to these two.
@@naehalmulazim susannoo does not need rinnergen to awakened MS/EMS eye is the one needed also fun fact Madara MS Ability was to manuplate time a little like in a battle if he havennt got a fatal blow he will reverse time but in the end time when hashirama beat him he was forced to use Izanagi
@@naehalmulazim Wrong. He did NOT resort to it later - the battle ENDED. When Madara returns with Susanoo-armored Kyuubi, THEN Hashirama activates his ultimate jutsu combination - sage mode Buddha. Until then, that level of strength was NOT required. "Naruto and Sasuke arent even legal adults so it isnt fair to compare them to these two." exactly, since Naruto and Sasuke curbstomp Madara and Hashirama at the end of the war, despite being minors.
Izuna was as toxic as Tobirama lol if only they accepted Hashirama peace and friendship offer Hashirama could just heal Izuna right there and he would still be alive. Healing that kind of injury is a piece of cake for someone like him.
@@azarelii In the 3rd war Fugaku was known for using genjutsu and was probs the strongest leaf shinobi, but then minato joined the war and became stronger than even fugaku
Always a possibility he could've survived, I mean who could've predicted Tobi surviving? Or even Sasuke after getting skewered by Haku. The list goes on.
When madara and and hashirama fight in that madara doesn't have a reinngan but one the other hand Sasuke have reinngan.As we know reinngan took chakra in a high amount
Tobirama is the most influential person in the Narutoverse for good and bad. Everyone stole all his jutsu, made legends with his moves, and then is the reason why Madara became so evil. Madara hated Tobirama because they are 2 sides of the same coin. Literally the same character. He knew that what Tobirama was doing was correct, but he was just on the receiving end of it. Tobirama was a true genius.
Madara was always screaming at Tobirama for killing Izuna , as if his other brothers didn't slaughter Kawarama , Butsuma and the other Senju kids . If he had just accepted Hashirama for the first time , Hashirama would have saved Izuna himself; but he couldn't stomach the fact that Hashirama was a bigger person than he or his family could ever be .
Tobirama has nothing to do with Madara becoming evil, it’s Madara’s destiny to fight Hashirama because they are reincarnations of Hagoromo’s sons and also Black Zetsu manipulated him and changed the script of the secret stone to make him believe in Infinite Tsukyoumi to bring back Zetsu’s mom Kaguya.
That's not a plot twist. It's obviously implied various times to be a natural boarder of the hidden leaf. It's where they met, and where Madara was killed by his best friend. That spot has always had intense karma.
I hate Madara even more now. He was a deluded maniac who choose to be an evil aloe vera's bitch. Zetsu had no choice in what to do. He was made to serve Kaguya. Madara had a choice and he chose to be evil.
@@saphirax8148 Itachi, Shisui, Kagami, etc weren't hateful. Obito and Sasuke went back good the moment they willed it. Curse of Hatred is a choice not a fate. And Madara chose to be evil.
I liked how they constantly talked about showing each other's guts and true selves to prevent wars. It's such an innocent way of thinking but also so true. It's so refreshing as well
Nope Buddy, you got it wrong there. Kurama didn't share it's strength with Madara. Didn't trust the dude. Remember how it took time for Naruto to convince Kurama to share some Chakra.
@@studyinchina4139 Oh wow, very good point, i never thought about that. That being said, beating peak Madara with a summoned (but weaker) Kyuubi is a big achievement
@@studyinchina4139 how is he wrong lol. He didn't say anything about Kurama sharing his shakra to Madara. That's still the same Kurama that killed Naruto's parents, and Hashirama stopped it along with a peak Madara
Lol doesnt matter if kurama trust madara or not, he got kurama under control to try defeat hashirama. On contrary, Hashirama distributes tail beasts to other villages. That summed up how strong he was and how weak madara is. He even take some of hashirama cells just to gain advantage over him. Its no contest that hashirama by far superior that madara.
Anybody else think a prequel would've been better than a sequel? There's so much history and lore to the world of Naruto. I'd love a fully fleshed out story of the Uchiha and Senju wars. A fully fleshed out story of both Hashirama and Madara. There doesn't need to be a grand overarching plot, the story can focus on more serious side effects of war. The emotional, political, geographic, etc. side effects. Show their relationship in more detail, as well as the relationship between Tobirama and Hashirama, Madara and Izuna, etc.
I was thinking about it too. I totally agree with you. Why can't the authors devote more screen time to them and dedicate a solo film... Madara and Hashirama are my favourite heroes. Their history, era, friendship seemed very touching to me. And their lives were described in about 2 episodes. Instead, Boruto's children's series are coming out, unfortunately I can't look at it🗿 I'm upset about it, one disappointment. Sorry for my not great english)
I feel sorry for Itama...he is not in this video, but the scene of his kill was merciless. 6 Uchihas standing around him, playing with kunai before killing him
@@quickstep2408 They threw a kid who looked like he wasn't even 10, out onto an actual battlefield. IRL, I believe employing child soldiers in war is a warcrime.
It's time we give Tobirama his due, Tobirama is the best all around Hokage Konoha has ever had In terms of strength he was only behind 2 gods in Hashirama and Madara In terms of jutsu, he was the inventor of Kuchiyose, Hiraijin and Kagebunshin, that's staple Jutsu of 1 Sannin, 2 Hokages and 1 of the 3 perpetrators of the 4th shinobi world war In terms of government and politics, together with Hashirama's vision and input he was the one who design some of the governmental bodies that still being used even to Boruto's generation like Chuunin exams, Anbu, Ninja academy, not to mention the 1st gokage meeting was held by Konoha which resulted in the transfer of Bijuu between 5 great nations and provide more balanced geopolitics, so Tobirama provided plenty of input to the attempt of making the shinobi world more peaceful and the best thing was Tobirama is the only Hokage who gave a reasonable and feasible solutions for the uchiha problem and try to guide them more to the will of fire ideology instead of extremism, sure it was not perfect but he has done the most effort compared to other Hokages
In terms of strength he's behind Hashirama in power. But he's also faster, smarter, and more battle smart than him. That's why in battle their dad always had him with him instead of Hashirama. So it's not about who's more powerful, they are just different. Madara and him are the same character on opposite sides. That's why they hate each other so much and worry about each other so much. But Tobirama is a hard counter to Madara. He could fight either one of them and have a chance with his IQ being the highest in the series.
@@TheRoadrunn nah, he was the only Hokage ever that offer a realistic solution to Uchiha problem and trying to give them a sense of belonging and protecting by msking them the Konoha police, but the Uchihas are always taking the most extreme solution to their problem, just look at the fact that 3 out of 4 last villain in Naruto are all Uchiha : Obito, Madara, and Sasuke and just look at what Naruto had to went through to save just one Sasuke
@@TheRoadrunn is it racism if he was right? almost all uchiha had fucked up genetics and went batshit crazy, so it was inevitable that they'd fuck up again. history confirmed tobirama's concerns
@jsjk I think you forget that its the same people that killed your family, that are now offereing the peace treaty. I think its more complicated than he is "selfish"..
Let's not forget Tobirama is the one standing at the back of Hashirama's dream. It's actually his ideas, he figured it out as a CHILD, what a genius, Hashirama just implemented his brother's ideas with his own passion and dreams. I hope some dumb children will stop saying "tObIrAmA iS rAcISt He HaTeS uChIhA" and finally will realize what he did and what he wanted to do. Truly legend.
my headcannon is that Tobirama isnt a racist who hates all uchiha, but he simply hates the war that he was forced to fight in as child as the war made the uchihas out to be some sort of warmongers (its not a very well fleshed out thought but thats what i have at the min)
I mean to be fair though his actions went stupidly far. Tobirama coincidentally with all his momentum to this leading up literally created the REASONING for the Uchiha Coupe de tat, to say the Uchiha aren't justified in hating his guts would be a major understatement. He relegated them to a corner of the village isolating them and created the leaf police force to create a 'good and evil' conflict internally within the clan. Tobirama was just stupid afraid of the Uchiha bottom line, he damn well didn't want another Madara.
@@xyannail4678 warring states period - china/japan warring states/sengoku period 5 kages - 5 great powers in WW1/2 Giving out bijuus - nuke deterrence Infinite Tsukuyomi - Commie Utopia Konoha uniting the clans - Shogunate era Pain's 6 paths - Buddhist theology Susanoo/Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi - Japanese Creation Myth Kaguya's story- Tanabata Amegakure's destruction - proxy wars like Vietnam/Korean/Afghan Tobirama's & Danzo's hatred for Uchiha - USA's Red Scare Orochimaru's experiments - Super Soldier's operation etc.
I remember reading a long time ago during an interview where Kishimoto said he was heavily influenced by military culture when making the story, which is why the Jonin have the flack jackets they do and the three-man cell teams are a thing. I would not be shocked at all if these war allegories are actually correct
I remember absolutely loving this episode when I first watched it as a younger teen. I was mind blown and loved that we could actually watch young hashirana and madara and the entire context of their respective villages and shinobi
i always love how Madara knows that Hashirama is a bit stronger but yet he fights and running, Hashirama has a great healing power and yet madara made him almost die one time
@@ushiwakatoshijima4838 exactly 😂 it's like Reverse Engineering Uchiha design were based on Sasuke who was created first, Just like Minato's design would be based on Naruto's
Hashirama was right. Madaras younger brother looks exactly like sasuke But thinking how madara stabbed sasuke without hesitation saying he'll stab his sibling if he needs even though his early goal was to protect his sibling shows how dark he actually got
It’s amazing to think how long hashirama held back his true strength if madara was fighting him countless times thinking he may win then he gets ms and hashirama not only matches this massive increase in ablilities but defeats it
@@darylowenj You're an idiot. Tobirama wasn't racist and he did nothing to Madara. Madara chose to be an evil prick. Madara is a power hungry evil maniac. So stop talking nonsense, you Uchiha wanker.
Madara left the village and Hashirama would fight. In the process, he was begging him to come back because he considered him a friend. Orochimaru did the same thing and JIRAIYA tried to bring him back till his death because he considered him a friend. Sasuke followed on their footsteps and left the village. Naruto did all that he could to bring him back to the village because he considered him a friend. With all this being said, could JIRAIYA and OROCHIMARU possibly have been a reincarnations of Ashura and Indra, respectively?
those guys are just character foils, different spins on the naruto sasuke dynamic. For example, kakashi and obito is a wat if scenario if sasuke (kakashi) stayed and naruto (obito) went rogue, or how nagato and naruto were both children of destiny. Only Madara and Hashirama were direct reincarnations, everyone else is just story foil (jiraiyah/orochimaru, kakashi/obito, etc)
Tobirama being a first class sensory ninja very well knew madara was near the window spying on them. Tobirama made madara know he despised him by including hashirama into the overthrow plan. This, he single-handedly sealed the rivalry
Yeah, if he just didn’t do that, like come on. You killed his brother do you have to kill his dream and feeling of belonging in the village they created together? Come on tobi bro.
Let’s be honest here: all the unchihas look the exact same the only difference is their hairstyles which don’t even vary that much since all of them have black hair
Tobirama > Hashirama.....I know he’s stronger but The 2nd hokage did what had to be done. He understood the world. You can’t be all love and forgiveness. Sometimes you need a cold heart.
Tobirama instigated the anti Uchiha feelings that led to Itachi having to destroy his own clan. The negative feelings only subsided when Naruto (who for all intents and purposes is just like Hashirama) ended the feud against the Uchiha. Tobirama caused a lot of the suffering in the ninja world because of his actions.
@@JohnSmith-xl1kt that’s not true. Tobirama put the village and everyone else above fighting between their clans. He created the ninja system so things wouldn’t be decided by clan leaders, but through a diplomatic process to select the right person for the job. Tobirama gave up his hatred for the Uchiha and tried to give them jobs that would best put them in positions to help the village. No other clan would have been able to be the police other than the Uchiha because they were the strongest. Tobirama was very tactical also so he made sure that in the event that the Uchiha decided they had enough like Madara, they would be further away from the village in order for them to respond to protect the village. You don’t just stop having a war with someone and then go straight to being buddy buddy. If you’ve ever seen Game of Thrones, watch the Red Wedding episode. Tobirama did the right thing and is the best Hokage. Village was the safest under him because he wouldn’t hesitate to kill you and doesn’t believe in sparing you to get another chance to kill him. Tobirama is much like Vegeta as Hashirama is to Goku
@@Tobirama_isHimju It’s true that Tobirama did create the structure for the ninja system such as his idea for academies and rankings for ninja classes and missions, but he wasn’t the one that brought everyone above fighting. Hashirama and Madara laid the groundwork for the villages that brought the warring states period to an end. It was also Hashirama that maintained balance between these villages by sharing out the bijuu to the major villages. Tobirama never did give up his mistrust of the Uchiha, and that’s why under him they were moved from the center of the village to the outskirts. An act that angered the Uchiha and was an instigating factor to them wanting a revolution against the village in Itachi’s time. Thus under Danzo (who feared the Uchiha because of his admiration for Tobirama, and even stopped Shisui from using Kotoamatsukami to stop the Uchiha) anti Uchiha sentiment was furthered greatly and Itachi ultimately had to sacrifice his clan to protect the village. I’m not trying to downplay Tobirama, as he is one of my favorite characters and is fiercely intelligent, but it wasn’t his stigma against the Uchiha that ended the events of Naruto, but rather it instigated them. It was only when Naruto came along that broke the cycle of hatred within the Uchiha and ultimately united the shinobi world as comrades. Also, let’s not forget that in their last fight Hashirama didn’t hesitate to “kill” Madara because he threatened the village. It’s only cause the Izanagi that Madara survived afterwards. But that’s not the point of the Naruto narrative, that being in order to gain peace you must be willing to understand the others around you and accept their pain.
Hashirama : Dreams about kids not dying uselessly on battlefields, so he makes peace with uchiha clan and makes a village Third hokage: sends kids to their deaths on battlefield :P
Madara show how he love his brother he even start a war and also becomes a six path just like obito to rin they also ignore their friends just for their love ones.
![Itachi Asks Kakashi About His Sharingan - Itachi and Kakashi's Service in ANBU [60FPS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nI1khGykW7I/mqdefault.jpg)
The fact that Madara awakened sharingan not when his 3 siblings died but when his friendship with hashirama broke tells me how precious his relationship with hashirama was.
Actually no he only awakened it due to his hate because of the betrayal he felt be him and the fact his little brother almost got killed
@@jacehendrix864 You just made that shit up lol.
There's nuance. There was probably an accumulation of shit that lead to him awakening his Sharingan. Honestly every character we've seen awaken a sharingan, didn't do so because someone died (not talking MS). It seems less associated with sadness and anger and more associated with nuanced emotional dilemmas.
@@ohIear actually I didn't make shit up he awakened it because he felt betrayed and because he lost a really good relationship sure a mixture of both but get your facts straight before u say I'm making stuff up
@@jacehendrix864 didnt he unlock his one tomo during his brothers death and his double tomo sharingan during he and hashiramas friendship breakup?
@@unl3tric yea when they were kids after the ambush scene he awakened his regular sharingan but after tobirama killed his brother he awakened his monkekio sharingan
Tobirama invented flying raijin to counter sharingan, and using water release to counter fire release of Uchiha. This character is truly a genius!
This guy truly hates uchihas
That takes Petty to a whole new level
@@dadbayflextape925 If he hated them, he would have eradicated them.
@@tiaaaron3278 hashirama was the reason tobirama didn’t eradicate them
@@centaur6605 He could have easily done that after Hashirama died. He didn't do it because he didn't want to. It had nothing to do with Hashirama.
can u imagine if their era weren't so dark, madara and hashirama would doing ridiculous rivalry games like guy and kakashi
Ikr, that would be the best
That would be hilarious
Madara was always evil so no.
@@tiaaaron3278 madara was not always evil
@@_kome_2504 Adult Madara always was.
When ninjas is bringing out megazords its time to hang up the kunai and open a ramen store.
from throwing sharp metals to throwing double rotating tactical NUKES
Lol
🤦🏿♂️ sadly
@@marvin6119 facts
Heh
If Madara would have just shaken Hashirama’s hand, I wouldn’t have had to watch almost 1,000 episodes of Naruto
SAME BRO 😭
But that taught u something.
@@AnkurSaini-pm1zv I’m sure we’ve all learned a lot throughout Naruto
@@astylfranklin9402 yep my brother. I cried two times during haku. It was so deep
Indeed.
How powerful that hand is.
As far as I'm concerned, Tobirama was the only one who didn't have a ridiculous power like sharingan or wood release. He was pure skills and creativity. And he owned Uchihas.
Exactly. His pure intellect, cunningness and skill alone made him the fastest shinobi and one of the strongest along with Madara and Hashi during their time.
I wish he had a Kekkei Genkai at least though
Wasn’t he a reincarnation of an alien or sum?
@@D_edman722 it was hashirama he was the reincarnation of ashura the son of sage of six paths
In manga Tobirama is almost equal to Madara, Hashirama is just another lvl.
Idk why anime make him weaker than original.
The fact that they didn't make a full on prequel series about this blows my mind.
tbh i rather watch a minato previous generation about minato's backstory and how he developed the rasengan and other techniques because his backstory or harashirama the first hokage series
Indeed! I would have preferred prequel stories before Naruto rather than Borotu.
@@konondayo5397 Minato is a bland character and his story was already said and done.
@joey23 Because Hashirama and Madara are just bad rip-offs of Naruto and Sasuke. They suck. There is never gonna be a prequel about them specifically.
They should make one about this era but focus on other characters like Tobirama, Mito, Toka, the Uzumaki clan, etc.
Hashirama should just be a side-character. And Madara and the stupid Uchiha who already hijackes Shippuden should be in the background. Fans don't care about them anymore.
@@tiaaaron3278 what? i meant minato's backstory when he was a genin what was his ups and down how did he be a successful shinobi
Just realized how much Hashirama’s and Madara’s little brothers look like Sasuke and Naruto when they were young
Yeau no joke
Except tobirama looked way more badass
@@jackgrafing3179 true tobi kinda look like adult sasuke
It’s like they’re related
@@quellobello8052 Izuna and sasuke is related doe also with naruto because hashirama married an uzumaki and then had kushina
"A place where kids dont have to be sent to harsh battlefronts"
Also Konoha: Literal ninja school for kids that sends them to harsh battlefronts.
Also konoha: Is the reason the 4th war started and how it ended
Seriously, the godly ones only live in konoha only does no one realise this
Madara, hashirama, og gods
Obito (one of the reasons the 4th war started)
Naruto, sasuke
Teuchi, the ramen god....
Being a ninja isn't mandatory tho you can be a villager if you want.
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 all the other villages copied the leaf village system as it was the first village so of course all OGs will live there.
To be fair the Hokage usually assigns missions based on how skilled a team is so young shinobi (who are protected by their teacher anyways, usually a jounin) don't see any real danger until they have gathered up a lot of experience and know their stuff
In hashirama's times people younger than kid Naruto were sent to die in these fightd.
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 teuchi claps otsusuki god
Weird how the two clans who hated each other are actually related... i mean it's like fighting your own cousin
@Sayed Hasan over and over for millenia
So just like a normal family
When you think about it aren’t all humans related to a certain degree I think that’s what the show was trying to show about war over time we separate into clans or countries but overall we are all descended from the same distant ancestor regardless of our distinguished traits
Trizzlaaaaaa
Tons of wars through out history were ones of brothers, cousins and even father and son
Can we agree that madaras lil bro looks like sasuke
What I was thinkin
Hashirama actually mentioned that sasuke looks like madara's young brother after he was reanimated
@@samartheory yeah right
Tobirama as a Kid Looks like Naruto!😂
And hashiramas lil bro looked like naruto a little bit haha
The communication between Hashirama and Madara is epic. Truly those two were best of friends
My headcanon: Tobirama hates the Uchiha because his red eyes don't do shit
Ikr 😂
😂
But those eyes don't lose the light so fast like the uchiha's
And also the flying rai-chan will do the trick
@@isseabdirahmanweheliye9010 yeah, flying rai-chan? Lmaooooo wtf
Underrated😂
“Well there used to be 5 of us” never realized madara lost other siblings
He obviously didn't give a fuck as their deaths didn't awaken his sharingan.
@@tiaaaron3278 yea lol maybe the sharingan only awakens when u see them die
@@sou177 lololo
@Luc Germain Yeah, that's possible. Maybe he wasn't on good terms with them.
@@tiaaaron3278 they died when he was so much younger compared to when izuna died. so maybe him not being at his prime had something to do with it.
Honestly, the moments where Madara instantly ran to the girl who had fainted and when he yelled at Hashirama over the name thing are so painful. He _was_ that genuinely good person once, he fully believed in Hashirama as a friend and their dream as legitimate, and yet he was manipulated into trying to destroy it. The Uchiha were victims of Zetsu's plotting for literal centuries.
Fact
Bro not bcz of that zetsu plan or plot worked bcz of senju or villager who mistreated the uchiha even after forming village villager attitude of fear against uchiha remained and mistrust uchiha too you can literally see tobirama badmouthing uchiha and madara to hashirama infront of madara of being hokage this created a sense of fear in madara mind for his clan which lead to all of this and become a stepping stone to zetsu plan
If tobirama didn't badmouth uchiha and madara I am sure madara would still be in village and become a good shnobi even. Tho hasirama become hokage he would still accept it bcz inside madara respected hashirama every much
Madara left village bcz he found out how uchiha being still. Mistreated by some villagers and senju especially tobirama
That even hasirama also found out and try to convince madara he will control tobirama action if it went too far against uchiha which isn't really a optimistic solution either mistreatment on one mid about clan can be solved through action
Later madara was right about intentions when one of tobirama disciple danzo ordered to masscare a whole clan with no excuse or prep measures to solve things without blood spill
So you may ask it's uchiha fault to conduct a coup but just think being oppressed for years ,given no authority position,and left behind in corner of village even tho they are former clans for years
Uchiha where mistreated for year made them to go a civil war they been oppressed for years and the village didn't notice or consider it as problem but keep on pushing them away
Tobirama is good but I am so disappointed I feel like he was so unnecessary
Madara actually a kind-hearted person.
Cruel war changed it forever....
If you think about it, I think Sasuke's current role was what Hashirama wanted Madara to be for Konoha
@@r15kyify I strongly agree with you pal
Tobiramas flying raijin was ingenious and bad ass!!
@@chimketyanuk5347 😂
@@chimketyanuk5347 ...duh? It's only logical to invent jutsus to counter the specific skill set of your biggest threats in a war, isn't it?
@@chimketyanuk5347 He's not Anti-Uchiha even though the Uchiha suck ass.
@@tiaaaron3278 ok buddy, then why were the uchiha the only clan that can combat the senju eventhough they lost
@@tdizzle8757 IDGAF about that, Uchiha are poorly-written garbage with too much screentime. They ruined Shippuden.
Damn Tobirama really went and mastered water style jutsu purely because it was the current meta against the Uchiha. Then when he felt that wasn't enough he made the flying rajin the new meta. Tobirama is just built different.
Lmaoooo
Tobirama is truly a pro gamer
Dont forget his infinite darkness genjutsu, his whole kit is to counter uchihas lmao
Well he's been fighting Uchihas for years, it would be stupid for anyone to at least not develop some counterattacks to do so during all that time. He's not really all that smart, a lot of his fans are just dumb to basic reasoning.
& then he create hiraishin, kagebunshin, & edo tensei
Hashirama's glow up doe.
Mans had a bowl cut
yeah he's handsome af when he's older
@@Curly-hair-guy facts it’s reckless
why do they make old men like Hashirama and Tobirama handsome :< it's unfair.
@@g0ldamps391 lol your jealous of a anime character
I always thought it was funny that Tobirama was shook about Izuna dying. Like BOAY YOU KILLED HIM!!!!
yea lol
He just FLYING RAIJIN him up and he like How tf did he die lol
@@sou177 He’s just like “Oh wow, I thought it would take more than that.”
Lol
@@TmanTheTdog yea he just SLICED his heart and then expected him to live lol
Pretty impressive that Hashirama beat Madaras perfect Susanoo without Sage mode and his buddha statue. Just goes to show how ridiculously strong Hashirama is
They didnt show us the full fight. He may have resorted to it later. I think it's more impressive Madara awakened a Susanoo like that without the Rinnegan like Sasuke did. Then again hes a lot older than Sasuke here. Naruto and Sasuke arent even legal adults so it isnt fair to compare them to these two.
@@naehalmulazim susannoo does not need rinnergen to awakened MS/EMS eye is the one needed also fun fact Madara MS Ability was to manuplate time a little like in a battle if he havennt got a fatal blow he will reverse time but in the end time when hashirama beat him he was forced to use Izanagi
@@naehalmulazim u uchiha fans always coming with reasons
@@naehalmulazim Wrong. He did NOT resort to it later - the battle ENDED. When Madara returns with Susanoo-armored Kyuubi, THEN Hashirama activates his ultimate jutsu combination - sage mode Buddha. Until then, that level of strength was NOT required.
"Naruto and Sasuke arent even legal adults so it isnt fair to compare them to these two." exactly, since Naruto and Sasuke curbstomp Madara and Hashirama at the end of the war, despite being minors.
I mean yeah, he is composed entirely of Hashirama cells.
Tobirama looks like he's the one with the Sharigan than Izuma lol
Hahah You're right, maybe the maker is tired
tobirama is an albino
@@hollowedknight501 hahaha 🤣🤣
Ikr? Lol
@@Ciel-w1o bro he IS an albino
Hashirama thinking he can kill himself with a kunai🤣🤣
So you understand his body better than himself?
@@christianrein1585 of course I do? What is this question
@@laaal9501 you do realize that hashirama can control his healing powers right? A blood lost would do the trick.
@@christianrein1585 Bro you understand fun?
@@laaal9501 sorry it's hard to see sarcasm when it's written.
Izuna was as toxic as Tobirama lol if only they accepted Hashirama peace and friendship offer Hashirama could just heal Izuna right there and he would still be alive. Healing that kind of injury is a piece of cake for someone like him.
Ahan...I wished to see someone being healed by Hashirama
Very true the older brothers should of shut them both up lol.
Tobirama wasn't a warmongering piece of garbage like Izuna. Don't compare the two.
Madara and Izuna were both evil and terrible.
@@yep3742 Tobirama should have killed Madara's worthless ass. Would have solved all problems.
@@tiaaaron3278 then naruto wouldn't happen and also tobirama was not even in the league of madara in terms of power
The Leaf Village would have been unstoppable if Uchiha and Senju cooperated.
Well they do now, that is why Konoha is feared right now in Boruto
They did cooperate the leaf 🌿 won all 3 wars because of the Uchiha
@@Lukie2131 I swear Fugaku was the main hero till minato came up and started wrecking everyone's shit
@@ezeola6348 huh
@@azarelii In the 3rd war Fugaku was known for using genjutsu and was probs the strongest leaf shinobi, but then minato joined the war and became stronger than even fugaku
I wish Madara was still like that goofy and buddy of Hashirama
They will become a best duo in their era
naw, in history
Madara is just a toxic piece of trash.
@@tiaaaron3278 he never was
@@tiaaaron3278 An Anti-Uchiha to.
@@tiaaaron3278 dude what's with your hate for uchihas
Tobirama really had the audacity to ask what happened to Izuna when he's the one who heavily injured him🤣
Why he shouldnt i mean izuna was about to kill him what do you want him to do just let izumi hit him and be dead dude thats a freaking war
@@narayanachakra3288 Probably looking for feedback to improve his Flying Raijin
Nothing Just confirming his death😂😂😂
Always a possibility he could've survived, I mean who could've predicted Tobi surviving? Or even Sasuke after getting skewered by Haku. The list goes on.
Feedback 😭😭🤣@@vishnuprasanth4725
"madara prevented hashirama from committing suicide" should be re-named to "hashirama tries to sacrifice his life for madara"
More like Hashirama fools Madara that he can die from a kunai
@@TheTriangle444 but if he doesn't use his healing technique he will die
@@krishwanthkishore8299 His cells have regeneration abilities, you can't will your body to not heal itself, lmao.
@@tiaaaron3278 dude this is anime
@@KingGilgamesh1741 So because it's anime, it doesn't have to abide by its own rules?
Hashirama and Madara fought for a whole day.
Meanwhile, Sasuke in Boruto fights for one minute: _" I'm out of chakra! "_
Sasuke when he fight Momoshiki and jigen: im have a lot of chakra
When madara and and hashirama fight in that madara doesn't have a reinngan but one the other hand Sasuke have reinngan.As we know reinngan took chakra in a high amount
They fought three days none stop. Amazing chakra
@@durjoybasak4883 Well, no if he's not using it. Besides, he can absorb chakra.
Its only in Filler when they fight Urashiki.
Tobirama is the most influential person in the Narutoverse for good and bad. Everyone stole all his jutsu, made legends with his moves, and then is the reason why Madara became so evil. Madara hated Tobirama because they are 2 sides of the same coin. Literally the same character.
He knew that what Tobirama was doing was correct, but he was just on the receiving end of it. Tobirama was a true genius.
Madara was just jealous of Tobirama, he wanted to be Hashirama's brother
Madara was always screaming at Tobirama for killing Izuna , as if his other brothers didn't slaughter Kawarama , Butsuma and the other Senju kids . If he had just accepted Hashirama for the first time , Hashirama would have saved Izuna himself; but he couldn't stomach the fact that Hashirama was a bigger person than he or his family could ever be .
Tobirama has nothing to do with Madara becoming evil, it’s Madara’s destiny to fight Hashirama because they are reincarnations of Hagoromo’s sons and also Black Zetsu manipulated him and changed the script of the secret stone to make him believe in Infinite Tsukyoumi to bring back Zetsu’s mom Kaguya.
cell hashirama??
he's not the reason. Yea he hated uchihas but madara was already crazy deep inside
Plot twist: the stream where Hashirama and Madara skipped pebbles is the Valley of the End.
That's not a plot twist. It's obviously implied various times to be a natural boarder of the hidden leaf. It's where they met, and where Madara was killed by his best friend. That spot has always had intense karma.
@@Rhekon no kidding? Lol, I'm genuinely not aware.
Lol I didn't know that
not a plot twist, thats literally where final valley is
Plot twist who built the 2 huge statue's of Madara and hashirama? I always wanted to know for some reason
Ashura and Indra (incarnates as well) have a thing for screaming each other’s names 5:14
lol ikr
Also naruto and sasuke
;)
madara vs hashirama indra vs ashura naruto vs sasuke and asuma vs kazuma, they all screamed each others name.
@@roshni.i227 ayo what
The fact Madara named the village is precious
The guy who hates red eyes actually has red eyes lmfao
Clan uchiha*
@@smalllturtle he hates all red eyes
They had to change it to brown lol
All smart people hate the Uchiha so what's your point?
@@tiaaaron3278 LMAO all smart people do NOT "hate the uchiha" because the uchiha are the best clan out there.
This backstory made me more hate Black Zetsu
Ikr
We all hate that entity
I hate Madara even more now. He was a deluded maniac who choose to be an evil aloe vera's bitch.
Zetsu had no choice in what to do. He was made to serve Kaguya. Madara had a choice and he chose to be evil.
@@tiaaaron3278 Madara didn't choose, the path of hate is the natural evolution for uchihas because of their sharingan, noone is to blame here
@@saphirax8148 Itachi, Shisui, Kagami, etc weren't hateful. Obito and Sasuke went back good the moment they willed it.
Curse of Hatred is a choice not a fate. And Madara chose to be evil.
"Never have a 1v1 with a sharingan user"
Tobirama: And that made it personal...
Young tobirama just looks so good. I can't 😭❤️
He looks like bakugou no joke
Tobirama and Izuna = Underrated rivalry
Not really underrated cause low screentime
Man got speed blitzed lol
Make sure your rival don’t see the light of day again-tobirama senju
There was no rivalry at all
Tobirama was more closer to hasirama in power
I liked how they constantly talked about showing each other's guts and true selves to prevent wars. It's such an innocent way of thinking but also so true. It's so refreshing as well
This truly show how kind and genuine hashirama is
Guy wanted peace so badly
No, he's an asshole. He handled Madara neglectfully which is what caused all problems.
@@tiaaaron3278 the traitors(uchiha) deserve all the suffering they got.
@@ManTheBuilder911 The uchihas just had a different way of acquiring peace.
@@mbking2044 that different way is unachievable and prone to revolt. As I stated before they all deserve the massive punishment.
scary how no other hokages managed to achieve this peace, only Naruto could pull this off
Hashirama defeated Madara who had a perfect susanoo and kurama, hashirama was truly a god
Nope Buddy, you got it wrong there. Kurama didn't share it's strength with Madara. Didn't trust the dude. Remember how it took time for Naruto to convince Kurama to share some Chakra.
@@studyinchina4139 Oh wow, very good point, i never thought about that.
That being said, beating peak Madara with a summoned (but weaker) Kyuubi is a big achievement
@@studyinchina4139 how is he wrong lol. He didn't say anything about Kurama sharing his shakra to Madara. That's still the same Kurama that killed Naruto's parents, and Hashirama stopped it along with a peak Madara
@@vicnovicio he didnt stop kurama..his sharingan did
Lol doesnt matter if kurama trust madara or not, he got kurama under control to try defeat hashirama. On contrary, Hashirama distributes tail beasts to other villages. That summed up how strong he was and how weak madara is. He even take some of hashirama cells just to gain advantage over him. Its no contest that hashirama by far superior that madara.
Tobirama : Flying Raijin Slice Izuna
Also Tobirama : What happened to Izuna?
To be fair, it was possible Izuna could have survived
Anybody else think a prequel would've been better than a sequel? There's so much history and lore to the world of Naruto.
I'd love a fully fleshed out story of the Uchiha and Senju wars. A fully fleshed out story of both Hashirama and Madara. There doesn't need to be a grand overarching plot, the story can focus on more serious side effects of war. The emotional, political, geographic, etc. side effects. Show their relationship in more detail, as well as the relationship between Tobirama and Hashirama, Madara and Izuna, etc.
I think about it too
I was thinking about it too. I totally agree with you. Why can't the authors devote more screen time to them and dedicate a solo film... Madara and Hashirama are my favourite heroes. Their history, era, friendship seemed very touching to me. And their lives were described in about 2 episodes. Instead, Boruto's children's series are coming out, unfortunately I can't look at it🗿 I'm upset about it, one disappointment. Sorry for my not great english)
Yeah much better than the Borushit which a different company made and nerfed everyone, Followed-up by their shitty character designs
Its all about business, profit and money making.
If Hajime Isayama is the writer, it will be possible
I feel sorry for Itama...he is not in this video, but the scene of his kill was merciless. 6 Uchihas standing around him, playing with kunai before killing him
the fact that he was just a kid just wasn't right
@@quickstep2408 They threw a kid who looked like he wasn't even 10, out onto an actual battlefield. IRL, I believe employing child soldiers in war is a warcrime.
@Tiffles That was the shitty world they lived in you could understand why Madara went so far to stop it
And then Madara has the nerve to complain about Izuna's death .
@@tiffles3890 different times. this shit literally happened all the time before the 1800s.
It's time we give Tobirama his due, Tobirama is the best all around Hokage Konoha has ever had
In terms of strength he was only behind 2 gods in Hashirama and Madara
In terms of jutsu, he was the inventor of Kuchiyose, Hiraijin and Kagebunshin, that's staple Jutsu of 1 Sannin, 2 Hokages and 1 of the 3 perpetrators of the 4th shinobi world war
In terms of government and politics, together with Hashirama's vision and input he was the one who design some of the governmental bodies that still being used even to Boruto's generation like Chuunin exams, Anbu, Ninja academy,
not to mention the 1st gokage meeting was held by Konoha which resulted in the transfer of Bijuu between 5 great nations and provide more balanced geopolitics, so Tobirama provided plenty of input to the attempt of making the shinobi world more peaceful
and the best thing was Tobirama is the only Hokage who gave a reasonable and feasible solutions for the uchiha problem and try to guide them more to the will of fire ideology instead of extremism, sure it was not perfect but he has done the most effort compared to other Hokages
I agree
In terms of strength he's behind Hashirama in power. But he's also faster, smarter, and more battle smart than him. That's why in battle their dad always had him with him instead of Hashirama. So it's not about who's more powerful, they are just different. Madara and him are the same character on opposite sides. That's why they hate each other so much and worry about each other so much. But Tobirama is a hard counter to Madara. He could fight either one of them and have a chance with his IQ being the highest in the series.
In terms of racism, he is the best in the entire series. Period
@@TheRoadrunn nah, he was the only Hokage ever that offer a realistic solution to Uchiha problem and trying to give them a sense of belonging and protecting by msking them the Konoha police, but the Uchihas are always taking the most extreme solution to their problem, just look at the fact that 3 out of 4 last villain in Naruto are all Uchiha : Obito, Madara, and Sasuke
and just look at what Naruto had to went through to save just one Sasuke
@@TheRoadrunn is it racism if he was right? almost all uchiha had fucked up genetics and went batshit crazy, so it was inevitable that they'd fuck up again. history confirmed tobirama's concerns
1:52 lmao Madara’s brother
In War era there is no other way but survival and it depends on the clan leaders if he will agree with peace
World of War craft?
@@thekaelandshow7683 kid....
Hashirama constantly offered peace to Madara and Madara said no.
@@tiaaaron3278 Yeah
@jsjk I think you forget that its the same people that killed your family, that are now offereing the peace treaty. I think its more complicated than he is "selfish"..
Let's not forget Tobirama is the one standing at the back of Hashirama's dream. It's actually his ideas, he figured it out as a CHILD, what a genius, Hashirama just implemented his brother's ideas with his own passion and dreams. I hope some dumb children will stop saying "tObIrAmA iS rAcISt He HaTeS uChIhA" and finally will realize what he did and what he wanted to do. Truly legend.
True mannnn
my headcannon is that Tobirama isnt a racist who hates all uchiha, but he simply hates the war that he was forced to fight in as child as the war made the uchihas out to be some sort of warmongers (its not a very well fleshed out thought but thats what i have at the min)
I mean to be fair though his actions went stupidly far. Tobirama coincidentally with all his momentum to this leading up literally created the REASONING for the Uchiha Coupe de tat, to say the Uchiha aren't justified in hating his guts would be a major understatement. He relegated them to a corner of the village isolating them and created the leaf police force to create a 'good and evil' conflict internally within the clan. Tobirama was just stupid afraid of the Uchiha bottom line, he damn well didn't want another Madara.
@@earthtoastro8349 Absolutely, his paranoia went too far, and in turn created more paranoia, and resentment
Naruto's real life historical references were outstanding.
Where? I'm curious.
Uchiha and Black people 😂
@@xyannail4678
warring states period - china/japan warring states/sengoku period
5 kages - 5 great powers in WW1/2
Giving out bijuus - nuke deterrence
Infinite Tsukuyomi - Commie Utopia
Konoha uniting the clans - Shogunate era
Pain's 6 paths - Buddhist theology
Susanoo/Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi - Japanese Creation Myth
Kaguya's story- Tanabata
Amegakure's destruction - proxy wars like Vietnam/Korean/Afghan
Tobirama's & Danzo's hatred for Uchiha - USA's Red Scare
Orochimaru's experiments - Super Soldier's operation
etc.
@@william97able2 Tobirama didn't hate the Uchiha. It was Danzo. You tried it though.
I remember reading a long time ago during an interview where Kishimoto said he was heavily influenced by military culture when making the story, which is why the Jonin have the flack jackets they do and the three-man cell teams are a thing. I would not be shocked at all if these war allegories are actually correct
Madara had a sad life.. I feel bad for the bad guy.
Madara isn't actually bad. But the fact that he has a really really bad way to achieve "peace"
@@thepersonwhogivesflashback9757 it all n
Black zetsu fault
@@thepersonwhogivesflashback9757 he tricked madara
I think Uchihas are destined to have sad life.
@@PhilZaynster Not for sarada haha
I remember absolutely loving this episode when I first watched it as a younger teen. I was mind blown and loved that we could actually watch young hashirana and madara and the entire context of their respective villages and shinobi
0:56 tobirama was ready for all the smoke
@ДАНЫШПАН look at his stance, he was ready for battle
Mehnn, that stance is 👌
Sword is bigger than he is
95% Most of the uchiha clan are cocky and overconfident.
I mean technically they possess the power of gods ,sharingans are obviously superior to other powers as of now.
@@mihah9415 they actually never found out about the MS
what about tobirama i think hes a little bit arrogant too
Itachi and shisui are the 5%
@@LANDON.T.A 🤣truee
If you think you are useless..
Remember that Madara and Hashirama had an army.
Hashirama the most kind hearted Shinobi Shinobi who cried for his brother in a war era and become the strongest shinobi
i always love how Madara knows that Hashirama is a bit stronger but yet he fights and running, Hashirama has a great healing power and yet madara made him almost die one time
8:52
When you realize that the main villain of the village actually gave the village its name
7:35 “It will be a place where kids don’t have to be sent into harsh battlefields”
Yeah, about that…
Obito is a uchiha toblerone was right (yeah yeah I know zetsu)
Toblerone
Its so weird that Hashirama cant tell madara was an uchiha. I mean they all look the same? The black hair and eyes 😂
Whos to say knowledge wasnt alot more limited during those times. And we dont know if only the senju and the uchiha were beefing
I think they both knew.. just didnt say anything.. by pretending to be ignorant they could continue to be friends..
everyone had black hair and black eyes besides tobirama wtf are u talking about?
@@tdizzle8757 Sasuke was a default template for every uchiha ever lmao.
@@ushiwakatoshijima4838 exactly 😂 it's like Reverse Engineering Uchiha design were based on Sasuke who was created first, Just like Minato's design would be based on Naruto's
The way Tobirama acts, are they sure hes not Uchiha too? Cold, calculated, savage, owner of many OP and forbidden jutsus.
Hashirama hair got longer after every wood jutsu spam😂
Madara: “Well, I still have one brother left.”
Literally one second later
That brother: *dies by tobirama’s hands*
Tobirama: “only a few more to go!”
Hashirama was right. Madaras younger brother looks exactly like sasuke
But thinking how madara stabbed sasuke without hesitation saying he'll stab his sibling if he needs even though his early goal was to protect his sibling shows how dark he actually got
0:24 tobirama looks like bakugo
Bakugo looks like tobirama :0
How he says, bakugo looks like tobiraba, tobi was before
6:06 lol that detail hand of tobirama
It’s amazing to think how long hashirama held back his true strength if madara was fighting him countless times thinking he may win then he gets ms and hashirama not only matches this massive increase in ablilities but defeats it
Is it just me or is the sound for wood style so satisfying just all the cracking
8:30
マダラ｢一人だけ弟が残っている｣
卑劣様｢飛雷神斬り！｣
どんな編集だこれw
悪意しかない
卑劣切りで草
その時笑った
🙂??
イズナはどうした
Madara and Hashirama are like Romeo and Juliet of their clans.. lol..
Imagine madara and hashirama team up vs other kage.
that'd be a fucking slaughter lmao
Naruto will literally be an afterthought lol Might as well change it into Hashidara lol
well hashirama single handedly destroyed all five kages. And he wasn't even serious
Hashirama literally had all the tailed beast except one tail under in his possession. I really dint even know how this man died
Madara is enough, and he's weaker than Hashirama. No need to imagine, it'd be overkill.
4:03 woah, so Hashirama knew how to plant the divine tree 😂
i think thats deep forest emergence technique originally from clan of otsutsuki ..
@@deanwinchester6496 Its only Hashirama if I remember correctly. He also uses this jutsu to build the foundations for the village apparently
@@cyrilleyong9615 like the house & building ?
@@westsenayanwacodu7303 It doesn't specify. I think it's the foundation and platform under the buildings.
@@deanwinchester6496 it was a joke
6:07 💀 Tobi was like “ THIS BITCH”
Tobirama , my boy always ready to fight Uchiha's 😂😂😂
the fact that Konohagakure was named by Madara Uchiha makes me cry because he's part of the foundation of something good after all
😭😭😭
The fact that Hashirama don't think twice about killing himself to convince Madara how deep his love for him
And then there's blackzetsu who made madara become evil
Tobirama was a racist sunavabitch that triggers madara to become evil
Madara always had it in him so he got manipulated
Black zetsu the real villain
Tobirama is a moron but a strong and good leader.
@@darylowenj You're an idiot. Tobirama wasn't racist and he did nothing to Madara. Madara chose to be an evil prick. Madara is a power hungry evil maniac.
So stop talking nonsense, you Uchiha wanker.
I just wanna say Zetsu was Madara's sensei all this time. He literally taught him everything needed to be stronger.
Ikr
Tobirama is just badass asf
Madara left the village and Hashirama would fight. In the process, he was begging him to come back because he considered him a friend.
Orochimaru did the same thing and JIRAIYA tried to bring him back till his death because he considered him a friend.
Sasuke followed on their footsteps and left the village. Naruto did all that he could to bring him back to the village because he considered him a friend.
With all this being said, could JIRAIYA and OROCHIMARU possibly have been a reincarnations of Ashura and Indra, respectively?
Orochimaru does not carry Indra's hatred like Madara and Sasuke
@@zacharyhon3771 Yeah Orochimaru was bad from the beggining..
those guys are just character foils, different spins on the naruto sasuke dynamic. For example, kakashi and obito is a wat if scenario if sasuke (kakashi) stayed and naruto (obito) went rogue, or how nagato and naruto were both children of destiny. Only Madara and Hashirama were direct reincarnations, everyone else is just story foil (jiraiyah/orochimaru, kakashi/obito, etc)
I think all the important things for orochimaru is not hatred, is all about being immortal boys
No. Their initial friendship does symbolize Sasuke's and Naruto's friendship but that doesn't make them reincarnations.
The most underrated hokage ever.
Tobirama senju🔥
Young Tobirama has the coolest design in the whole series.
Tobirama being a first class sensory ninja very well knew madara was near the window spying on them. Tobirama made madara know he despised him by including hashirama into the overthrow plan. This, he single-handedly sealed the rivalry
Yeah, if he just didn’t do that, like come on. You killed his brother do you have to kill his dream and feeling of belonging in the village they created together? Come on tobi bro.
I've said it once and I'll say it forever. The fact Madara and hashirama didn't get to bro down as old dudes makes me sad as hell.
😭😭😭 8:30 " - I have one younger brother left.
*Tobirama running*
HIRAISHIN GIRI"
WHY TF DOES MADARA'S BROTHER LOOK LIKE SASUKE
Even madara thought that sasuke could have replaced his brother
@@topjam6488 really? I haven’t watched shippuden in like 3 years.
Let’s be honest here: all the unchihas look the exact same the only difference is their hairstyles which don’t even vary that much since all of them have black hair
Because Uchiha are incestuous.
@@topjam6488 Madara never thought that, lmaom
I'm not a particular fan of Naruto, but this piece is wholesome.
Their friendship is more deep and beautifully written than the main characters
Me as a kid - I have one chocolate left
Hashirama as a kid - I have one brother left
Tobirama was born ready 🤣🤣
Madara in his teens looks exactly like sasuke. Even their attitude feels like resemble each other.
Tobirama > Hashirama.....I know he’s stronger but The 2nd hokage did what had to be done. He understood the world. You can’t be all love and forgiveness. Sometimes you need a cold heart.
U can be if you are hashirama
Tobirama instigated the anti Uchiha feelings that led to Itachi having to destroy his own clan. The negative feelings only subsided when Naruto (who for all intents and purposes is just like Hashirama) ended the feud against the Uchiha. Tobirama caused a lot of the suffering in the ninja world because of his actions.
@@JohnSmith-xl1kt hashirama aswell
@@JohnSmith-xl1kt that’s not true. Tobirama put the village and everyone else above fighting between their clans. He created the ninja system so things wouldn’t be decided by clan leaders, but through a diplomatic process to select the right person for the job.
Tobirama gave up his hatred for the Uchiha and tried to give them jobs that would best put them in positions to help the village. No other clan would have been able to be the police other than the Uchiha because they were the strongest. Tobirama was very tactical also so he made sure that in the event that the Uchiha decided they had enough like Madara, they would be further away from the village in order for them to respond to protect the village. You don’t just stop having a war with someone and then go straight to being buddy buddy.
If you’ve ever seen Game of Thrones, watch the Red Wedding episode. Tobirama did the right thing and is the best Hokage. Village was the safest under him because he wouldn’t hesitate to kill you and doesn’t believe in sparing you to get another chance to kill him.
Tobirama is much like Vegeta as Hashirama is to Goku
@@Tobirama_isHimju It’s true that Tobirama did create the structure for the ninja system such as his idea for academies and rankings for ninja classes and missions, but he wasn’t the one that brought everyone above fighting. Hashirama and Madara laid the groundwork for the villages that brought the warring states period to an end. It was also Hashirama that maintained balance between these villages by sharing out the bijuu to the major villages.
Tobirama never did give up his mistrust of the Uchiha, and that’s why under him they were moved from the center of the village to the outskirts. An act that angered the Uchiha and was an instigating factor to them wanting a revolution against the village in Itachi’s time. Thus under Danzo (who feared the Uchiha because of his admiration for Tobirama, and even stopped Shisui from using Kotoamatsukami to stop the Uchiha) anti Uchiha sentiment was furthered greatly and Itachi ultimately had to sacrifice his clan to protect the village.
I’m not trying to downplay Tobirama, as he is one of my favorite characters and is fiercely intelligent, but it wasn’t his stigma against the Uchiha that ended the events of Naruto, but rather it instigated them. It was only when Naruto came along that broke the cycle of hatred within the Uchiha and ultimately united the shinobi world as comrades.
Also, let’s not forget that in their last fight Hashirama didn’t hesitate to “kill” Madara because he threatened the village. It’s only cause the Izanagi that Madara survived afterwards. But that’s not the point of the Naruto narrative, that being in order to gain peace you must be willing to understand the others around you and accept their pain.
Tobirama already have a sharingan the day he were born.. 😁😁😁
Fun fact his eyes are red idiot
And didn't have tomoe in it
JYOTISHMAN BHUYAN he was joking lol
@@Lstaroth
No shit sherlock
I think Tobirama is an albino.
Hashirama : Dreams about kids not dying uselessly on battlefields, so he makes peace with uchiha clan and makes a village
Third hokage: sends kids to their deaths on battlefield :P
The og third 😹, always surprising me
He was literally the worse kage
Black Zetsu and Hashirama were the only 2 in the show to know Madara's true weakness. His backside.
Madara is not a bad guy, he's just a broken character
brainwashed character
"You still got one brother left man." *- Boyz N The Hood*
I honestly got reminded of how Itachi was from the uchihas but got Hashimara’s peace will without even having a talk with him 🥺
Madara show how he love his brother he even start a war and also becomes a six path just like obito to rin they also ignore their friends just for their love ones.
When you realize the senju and uchiha clan are related because Indra and ashura are the founders of their clans but their brothers
Madara: yay uchiha clan
Itachi: lmao no
lol