One of the coolest things about the v8 Mercedes is just how deceptively smooth the ride is. You have no idea how fast you're going until you look at the speedometer. Just neat! Thank you!
Sad to see that Mercedes will be abandoning their roots. The M100 was truly the start of something great and it is truly enlightening how you share the details of its history and development. Thank you again Visioracer
Mercedes has been dead for quite some time. Built down to a price, poor interior quality, piano black and touch screens. Now hideous electric abominations.
The M100 is truly an amazing piece of engineering.. I was fortunate enough to personally experience a 300 6.3 some years ago, absolutely beautiful! Great video and history lesson, thank you!
6:02 If memory serves, AMG wasn't originally part of Mercedes - its founders were _former_ Mercedes engineers. It was just an independent company that did contract work to improve some of their cars, but it also contracted with Aston-martin and Lotus. Koenig was the same, producing bodywork and performance modifications initially based on Ferraris - and later on including Mercedes, Jaguar, Porsche and Lamborghini. It wasn't until the late '90s that M-B bought a controlling interest in AMG, and a few years past that before AMG was completely owned by Mercedes (somewhere in the mid 2000s.)
@@hershellumiere in South Africa, we even had , wait for it.......an AMG Honda produced. see, in S.A., they were produced under license at the Mercedes plant, in Port Elizabeth, Uitenhage. hows that for a curve ball???
Is the Koenig you speak of the same company that made flat four horizontally opposed high performance two stroke engines for speed boats and later on motorcycles. Regards from the Cotswolds uk.
I love it when you use metric and put the conversion on the screen. I am familiar with metric as an American but my countrymen are annoying and difficult sometimes
I have worked on a couple of new AMG 6.3 engines, they are absolute monsters. Test driving them when i was done happened with a HUGE smile on my face. I had to replace the intake gaskets on both of them, seems like a fairly common problem. Also had to replace the front pads and rotors on one, the two piece front brake rotors are CRAZY expensive. It was a while back, but Im certain they were carbon fiber or ceramic rotors?? Was like a $5,000 front brake job. I suppose anyone buying one of these knows the maintenance costs beforehand and isnt concerned.
I'm going to road Atlanta next weekend for a classic car race event! There is usually one of these racing. I will make sure to take a good look at it in the pits if I see it!
Hi, the Fuel injection was Bosch MFI not a Daimler development. AMG by that time was Just Erhard Melcher as his business Partner had gone off to work on cylinder head development . The Red Pigs development was secretly assisted by Waxl. If you look carefully at the vids of the Spa race ,he is the tall guy assisting in AMG's Pit during the race.He was there secretly. AMG did a lot of engine swaps of M100's into things like W107's. The craziest was a 350SLC with a 7.2 liter modified M100 with Maserati 5 speed trans and the most glamorous was W100Guru's karl Middlehauves W112 cabrio fitted with a 6.3 . This was when AMG was a real tuning company,not a brand name. -I own 6.3 #1675.
From North America. I seem to recall the 300 SEL 6.9 engaging so-called Muscle-Cars of the era and being referred to as the "Bankers Bullet" Narragansett Bay
Yes the W100 600 SWB Limo does have two calipers on each front wheel but the disks are not ventilated instead solid in construction. Original pad supply was two types, one set per caliper, to facilitate cool and higher temperature braking ability. The braking system servo system is pressurised via the air compressor also used for the suspension. The storage tank has two chambers. One for the braking system and other for the air suspension. The braking system takes charging priority when the reservoir is being filled. The W103 300 SEL 6.3 has a more conventional brake vacuum booster unit and ventilated disks at all four corners. The air suspension storage tank only has a single chamber. It uses the same type of rolling bellows air suspension as the 600.
great video man. here in South Africa, there is a guy who loves his AMG's, and just completed a replica of the Red Pig, down to the last bits, even getting some info and specs from Mercedes in Germany. a lot of things he got are made locally, down to the nth degree, or from Mercedes. it i believe is producing about the same power currently, but upgrades are coming, BUT , keeping in line with that era, so no funny crap, but looks like it was factory fitment, truly a high quality build. it should be on Car Magazine, South Africa, issue form a few months back, not sure which one again. but ,man id give one kidney for that red pig, or a standard one even.
@@totkop2156 good to hear. man, i cant remember, but what i will do is go look at at my Car Magazines and let you know. i think it was in the last 4 months or so? ill let you know for sure.
if coupé SEC and 250 SL two seat a sport car in-line engine the pagode as it is called , i own a 280Sl 68 a 280 SE 65 coupé . they didn´t start a company the engenier in question without mercedes authorisation using mercedes garage with help from the other engenier produced the 350SE(V8) 6.3(V8) or 300(not V8) later being created as a mercedes racing department AMG ,don´t know where the guy in the video took is info. but mostly is wrong, the car seen on the photage is an late 50´s to early 60´s 280S with fish tails ,i own one that was taxi in the town where i live from 62 to 87 and being a taxi exaustive inspections were mandatory so the car was perfect when i bought it in 88 ,the 280 SE coupé bought it from a family that lived in the U.S. and when returning to Portugal they brought the car ,also the w114 250 CE was my second car the first was a sedan 280S from 69
Can't thank MB engineers enough for my m119-powered s500, one of the last true MB cars, reliable and powerful af. Yeah, the fuel consuption is not one of it's strogest points - but hey, who cares?..
You might like to compare the 300 SEL 6.3 standard cars with the four door Australian 1971 Ford Falcon XY GTHO phase 3. 5.8 litre Ford Cleveland motor. Understated HP but estimated 385hp. Top speed: 228 km/h (142 mph) @ 6150rpm 0 - 60 mph - 6.4 seconds 0 - 100 km - 6.9 seconds Standing 1⁄4 mile (400 m) - 14.4 seconds using the standard 3.25:1 Detroit Locker diff ratio. More speed available if the rev limiter of 6150 rpm was disabled. A blueprinted one can run to 7000rpm. Hard to buy one under a S1,000,000A now despite being half the price of the 6.3 when new.
VisioRacer, thank you for explaining the Engineering Truth in less time than Jeremy Clarkson spent ragging a Jag around Nürburgring, pretending he knew or understood cars. You have set us Brits free. I owe you.
My dad's buddy bought one of these from the German consulate and drove it to Graceland for Elvis's funeral, where they opened the gates and let him in, assuming he was a friend (nope). My dad had an old 450 SEL 6.9 in New Mexico in the late 80s for a few years and we would leave pursuing police behind as he laughed, even in the mountains, until they stopped trying to chase him.. I paid $3000 for an 85' 500 SEL in the early 90s and put 100k on it, never let me down once.. sad what the Japanese knockoffs did to the company.. never the same after the LEXUS effects of parts bin sharing forced engineers to lose out to the bean counters.. 96' E class and 00' S class were first of the not as great cars (AMG's great though).
Late uncle had the w100 short wb. .m100 engine. Was powerful. Initially pump must be flooding and hard to start. I suggested to add electronic ignition. And then it started with 1 crank. It took 20 mins on a good day before.
Really liked the video, but that old grain filter made it weird. Might just be me though, i always don't like to make something brand new look old if it can be achieved better.
The 600 is my favorite luxury car, if I was a billionaire I'd get myself one and a pair of gold glasses, some tiny flags for the fenders and a driver so I could roll around town like a minor dictator, going out of my way to ignore the peasants in an exaggerated manner.
Let me guess . This engine had a motorcycle like chain insted of the bicycle chains they use nowadays? And ofcourse it was a meaty hefty lump of metal , almost bombproof ?
Mercedes should also start to manufacture electric versions of their 60's' early 80's classic cars. Fiat has their 500/600 reissue and many other manufacturers have also made new versions of their old popular models.
Mercedes planned to build a 4,4 V8 and a 6,6 V12, but they were to lazy for the V12 and so they bored the V8 to 6,3; later to 6.8 and called it 6.9. What is so great about this?? P.S.: The "Rote Sau" is only a mock up, the original one had a Lamborghini Gearbox (!!) and was way faster than this showcar with his lousy Automatic tranny.
Mercedes 6.3L V8 weighed 750 pounds and put out 286 hp. Chevrolet's 7.4L V8 weighed 650 pounds and put out 450 hp. The Red Pig wouldn't have been so much of a pig if they had just swapped an LS7 into it.
@@pete4334 I didn't say it was. There was a whole series of LS engines before the modern tall-deck small block that was introduced in 1997. The first LS7 was a 454 big block, produced in 1970. There was also an LS6, an LS5, and an LS4 454, all introduced in 1970.
Its not the engine, its the fuel injection, as two Words and a bunch of numbers, Folk Wulf 190, the car is literally using a fighter planes fuel injection system, Ian Tyrell went over it in one of his videos, the god damn thing is using the dump all the fuel in and make as much boom as possible fuel injection system of a fighterplane from the war that gives it its throttle response lol
Amg was not founded by mercedes, they were 2 mechanics pationed with technology, built the engine and they created amg, then Mercedes took them under their wing and merged.
One of the coolest things about the v8 Mercedes is just how deceptively smooth the ride is. You have no idea how fast you're going until you look at the speedometer. Just neat! Thank you!
Sad to see that Mercedes will be abandoning their roots. The M100 was truly the start of something great and it is truly enlightening how you share the details of its history and development. Thank you again Visioracer
Mercedes has been dead for quite some time. Built down to a price, poor interior quality, piano black and touch screens. Now hideous electric abominations.
Sad? It's dead'n long gone. Now it's plastic, disposable crap. There's nothing to be sad about. Fk them.
m are garbage nowadays
The M100 is truly an amazing piece of engineering.. I was fortunate enough to personally experience a 300 6.3 some years ago, absolutely beautiful!
Great video and history lesson, thank you!
6:02 If memory serves, AMG wasn't originally part of Mercedes - its founders were _former_ Mercedes engineers. It was just an independent company that did contract work to improve some of their cars, but it also contracted with Aston-martin and Lotus. Koenig was the same, producing bodywork and performance modifications initially based on Ferraris - and later on including Mercedes, Jaguar, Porsche and Lamborghini. It wasn't until the late '90s that M-B bought a controlling interest in AMG, and a few years past that before AMG was completely owned by Mercedes (somewhere in the mid 2000s.)
Yes, former engineers. A single word that I somehow missed out.
@@VisioRacer No worries, mate. It was a clarification, not a criticism. :-)
There’s an amg Mitsubishi Galant running around.
@@hershellumiere in South Africa, we even had , wait for it.......an AMG Honda produced. see, in S.A., they were produced under license at the Mercedes plant, in Port Elizabeth, Uitenhage. hows that for a curve ball???
Is the Koenig you speak of the same company that made flat four horizontally opposed high performance two stroke engines for
speed boats and later on motorcycles. Regards from the Cotswolds uk.
Absolutely great content, a true history lesson!!!👏🏽👏🏽
IIRC from reading Karl Ludvigsen's The V12 Engine, Mercedes were also considering a very heavy 90-degree V12 version of the M100 engine.
Great content! A true legend, Long before the 73 amg existed!
Your new format is amazing. Thank you.
I love it when you use metric and put the conversion on the screen. I am familiar with metric as an American but my countrymen are annoying and difficult sometimes
You should move.
I think it's a nice inclusion.
Annoying and Difficult . You mean Ignorant , Pig-headed and Unable to Count , don't you ?
Thank you @Visioracer great content as always.
Great content as always💥
10:55 No wonder the 300SEL 6.3 sold better than the 600 because the 600 was the most expensive car in the world that time
I have worked on a couple of new AMG 6.3 engines, they are absolute monsters. Test driving them when i was done happened with a HUGE smile on my face. I had to replace the intake gaskets on both of them, seems like a fairly common problem. Also had to replace the front pads and rotors on one, the two piece front brake rotors are CRAZY expensive. It was a while back, but Im certain they were carbon fiber or ceramic rotors?? Was like a $5,000 front brake job. I suppose anyone buying one of these knows the maintenance costs beforehand and isnt concerned.
Love the variety of content on this channel!
Jees..! Uhlenhaut not Unlenbaut! He's responsible for the legendary 300 SLR!
thanks for another superb video. The blue 116 at the end of the movie has unfortunately crashed during a rally and is beyond repair :(
Great episode Sam! Huge fan of that engine :)
Impressive vid VisioRacer. Well researched.
Both the W103 300 SEL 6.3 and W100 600 SWB provide for impressive experiences to drive every time. :-)
Very cool cars in those days, and still.
You really should make a video about Fritz Indra. Another great engineer and the lovely GM (Opel) (c)20XE
awesome footage - thanks !
I Love all of your videos 💯💯💯 fantastic job 👏 👍
I'm going to road Atlanta next weekend for a classic car race event! There is usually one of these racing. I will make sure to take a good look at it in the pits if I see it!
Can't beat the beauty of a hot-blooded race car with a fancy (genuine!) wooden dash!
Really enjoyed that. Thank you.
Beautiful video….love it!
Hi, the Fuel injection was Bosch MFI not a Daimler development. AMG by that time was Just Erhard Melcher as his business Partner had gone off to work on cylinder head development .
The Red Pigs development was secretly assisted by Waxl. If you look carefully at the vids of the Spa race ,he is the tall guy assisting in AMG's Pit during the race.He was there secretly.
AMG did a lot of engine swaps of M100's into things like W107's. The craziest was a 350SLC with a 7.2 liter modified M100 with Maserati 5 speed trans and the most glamorous was W100Guru's karl Middlehauves W112 cabrio fitted with a 6.3 . This was when AMG was a real tuning company,not a brand name. -I own 6.3 #1675.
In 71; it was THE FASTEST 4 DOOR SEDAN ON THE PLANET
450 SEL 6.9 Legendary.
From North America. I seem to recall the 300 SEL 6.9 engaging so-called Muscle-Cars of the era and being referred to as the "Bankers Bullet" Narragansett Bay
Oh seeing this video made my day!
I love your vids, i realy watch them just after release♥️
But its Rudolf Uhlenhaut, not Uhlenbaut.
Great content nonetheless ♥️♥️
I overlooked it completely! 🙈🙈 Sorry, thanks any way!
@@VisioRacer no worrys in any way. As said, i loooove your vids ♥️
Keep up the work♥️♥️
Fun little fact about the 600 limousine: it was so heavy that Mercedes gave it 2 big brake calipers on each ventilated front brake rotor.
@nigwasme I think that’s stretching it a bit!
Yes the W100 600 SWB Limo does have two calipers on each front wheel but the disks are not ventilated instead solid in construction. Original pad supply was two types, one set per caliper, to facilitate cool and higher temperature braking ability. The braking system servo system is pressurised via the air compressor also used for the suspension. The storage tank has two chambers. One for the braking system and other for the air suspension. The braking system takes charging priority when the reservoir is being filled.
The W103 300 SEL 6.3 has a more conventional brake vacuum booster unit and ventilated disks at all four corners. The air suspension storage tank only has a single chamber. It uses the same type of rolling bellows air suspension as the 600.
GREAT VIDEO!😁
Pretty good. You mixed some things up and lots of wrong pictures with your narrative but still pretty good.
Favorite car of many Dictators 🐱👍🏿
Many In line 6 engines are bulletproof reliable themselves
Two weeks ago I bought W109 SEL from 1969 y. :D
Congrats, enjoy it
Dammit! Now I want one! How could you do this to me?
I thought I had all my "must haves" already...
Mighty 6.9 💪🏻
The " Red Pig " sounded truly EPIC . What an absolute BRUTE .
It is more akin "The red sow"
@@lutzvonpeter9170 . Umm . A Sow is a Female Pig you realise , Numb-nuts ?
great video man. here in South Africa, there is a guy who loves his AMG's, and just completed a replica of the Red Pig, down to the last bits, even getting some info and specs from Mercedes in Germany. a lot of things he got are made locally, down to the nth degree, or from Mercedes. it i believe is producing about the same power currently, but upgrades are coming, BUT , keeping in line with that era, so no funny crap, but looks like it was factory fitment, truly a high quality build. it should be on Car Magazine, South Africa, issue form a few months back, not sure which one again. but ,man id give one kidney for that red pig, or a standard one even.
Hey! im also from SA, whats that guys name?
@@totkop2156 good to hear.
man, i cant remember, but what i will do is go look at at my Car Magazines and let you know. i think it was in the last 4 months or so? ill let you know for sure.
Some of the footage included here is of the SA built recreation.
awesome vid
Sweet baby Jebus they sound heavenly
Came here after this car appearance in GT7 😀
Those were the good old days.... big reliable v8s.... now their v8s are the same size as v6s and a very cumbersome design
4:15 From all accounts I could find the first protoype was a 250 SE Coupe, not an SL 250. I think you've made a little mistake. :D
if coupé SEC and 250 SL two seat a sport car in-line engine the pagode as it is called , i own a 280Sl 68 a 280 SE 65 coupé . they didn´t start a company the engenier in question without mercedes authorisation using mercedes garage with help from the other engenier produced the 350SE(V8) 6.3(V8) or 300(not V8) later being created as a mercedes racing department AMG ,don´t know where the guy in the video took is info. but mostly is wrong, the car seen on the photage is an late 50´s to early 60´s 280S with fish tails ,i own one that was taxi in the town where i live from 62 to 87 and being a taxi exaustive inspections were mandatory so the car was perfect when i bought it in 88 ,the 280 SE coupé bought it from a family that lived in the U.S. and when returning to Portugal they brought the car ,also the w114 250 CE was my second car the first was a sedan 280S from 69
Can't thank MB engineers enough for my m119-powered s500, one of the last true MB cars, reliable and powerful af.
Yeah, the fuel consuption is not one of it's strogest points - but hey, who cares?..
They took a m100 engine with w114 body to Macau and cleaned, piloted by Albert Poon. Circa mid 60s. A reg w108 body be too big for Macau then.
Красивые и сильные Мерсики. молодцы
You might like to compare the 300 SEL 6.3 standard cars with the four door Australian 1971 Ford Falcon XY GTHO phase 3. 5.8 litre Ford Cleveland motor. Understated HP but estimated 385hp.
Top speed: 228 km/h (142 mph) @ 6150rpm 0 - 60 mph - 6.4 seconds 0 - 100 km - 6.9 seconds Standing 1⁄4 mile (400 m) - 14.4 seconds using the standard 3.25:1 Detroit Locker diff ratio.
More speed available if the rev limiter of 6150 rpm was disabled. A blueprinted one can run to 7000rpm.
Hard to buy one under a S1,000,000A now despite being half the price of the 6.3 when new.
The fog lights look like the prank glasses with the slinky eyeballs hanging off
A truly sexy engine
The only survived original Waxenberger 69 is in the Mobilia Automotive Museum, Finland.
4:20 if this isn't the sexiest car ever made, I don't know what is.
You are mixing a little bit in your comment between the W109 and W116 The racing engine still has the Bosch fuel injection not the K-Jet.
This is basically a German Landyatch with a 6.3L V8 in it.
I'm about to start the video and it would be hilarious if even the 6.9 was actually a 6.8 and the tradition was true from the beginning.
VisioRacer, thank you for explaining the Engineering Truth in less time than Jeremy Clarkson spent ragging a Jag around Nürburgring, pretending he knew or understood cars. You have set us Brits free. I owe you.
My dear friend please do make a video on the Mercedes M111 engine
A humble request
Cheers
My dad's buddy bought one of these from the German consulate and drove it to Graceland for Elvis's funeral, where they opened the gates and let him in, assuming he was a friend (nope). My dad had an old 450 SEL 6.9 in New Mexico in the late 80s for a few years and we would leave pursuing police behind as he laughed, even in the mountains, until they stopped trying to chase him.. I paid $3000 for an 85' 500 SEL in the early 90s and put 100k on it, never let me down once.. sad what the Japanese knockoffs did to the company.. never the same after the LEXUS effects of parts bin sharing forced engineers to lose out to the bean counters.. 96' E class and 00' S class were first of the not as great cars (AMG's great though).
Late uncle had the w100 short wb. .m100 engine. Was powerful. Initially pump must be flooding and hard to start. I suggested to add electronic ignition. And then it started with 1 crank. It took 20 mins on a good day before.
You show picture of kugelfischer pump but say it has bosch k-jetronic injection
Big beefy Forged Rods piston Iron block ? hello next budget build :)
Waxenberger always found a way and the last car he worked on found its way into Jurassic Park 3
the Red Pig was the first M-B AMG
I love mercedez benz both old and new
5:41 I think the fastest 4 door sedan was the 1966 Maserati Quattroporte 4700 (claimed 255 kmh, 158 mph)?
When talk about automobile history, Mercedes Benz always have tonnes of it.
FYI Mercedes build fast cars prior to 1945.
Yeah, but not so much for ordinary people as far as I can remember
I always preferred the straight 6 mb
sad to hear that amg will discontinue 4.0 in C63
Amazing vehicle. Just got The only one I could afford for $6.00 from Walmart hot wheels section. 😟🙁
Really liked the video, but that old grain filter made it weird. Might just be me though, i always don't like to make something brand new look old if it can be achieved better.
Yes it's just you - nobody cares what you don't like.
@@einfelder8262 What a wonderful answer
Nice
Ahhh so this is why the W13 moves snailspeed
11:12 sounds like a lawnmower
Sounds like it was the VW Phaeton of its day. Probably a bit better, accounting for changing standards.
The 600 is my favorite luxury car, if I was a billionaire I'd get myself one and a pair of gold glasses, some tiny flags for the fenders and a driver so I could roll around town like a minor dictator, going out of my way to ignore the peasants in an exaggerated manner.
The thumbnail look as if the headlights fell out.
04:31 the man's name was *Uhlenhaut*
In Germany he was and is to this day a true legend.
Please don't butcher his name.
I am really sorry about that, it slipped through and I did not notice it.
I miss subtitles :(
Some people do not like the fixed subtitles that cannot go away...
Let me guess .
This engine had a motorcycle like chain insted of the bicycle chains they use nowadays?
And ofcourse it was a meaty hefty lump of metal , almost bombproof ?
I wish that mercedes didnt stop sell manual AMO or anything of v8 engine
At 6.30 ish mins, that is not Bosch K-Jet
Mercedes should also start to manufacture electric versions of their 60's' early 80's classic cars. Fiat has their 500/600 reissue and many other manufacturers have also made new versions of their old popular models.
Sad now that AMG are putting a 4 cylinder in the C63AMG. Travesty.
Mercedes planned to build a 4,4 V8 and a 6,6 V12, but they were to lazy for the V12 and so they bored the V8 to 6,3; later to 6.8 and called it 6.9.
What is so great about this?? P.S.: The "Rote Sau" is only a mock up, the original one had a Lamborghini Gearbox (!!) and was way faster than
this showcar with his lousy Automatic tranny.
ahhhh yes, German's will always be ready to help you ...commenting what you could have done better.
And now they're shoe-horning OM 606's in everything..
Dose anyone know the first name of the 3 engineers that founded AMG
AMG was founded in 1967 by Hans Werner Aufrecht & Erhard Melcher.
@@newforestroadwarrior ok thanks for that I thought there was 3
Merc bassicly made a luxury muscle var
Mercedes 6.3L V8 weighed 750 pounds and put out 286 hp.
Chevrolet's 7.4L V8 weighed 650 pounds and put out 450 hp.
The Red Pig wouldn't have been so much of a pig if they had just swapped an LS7 into it.
454 is not an LS. It's "just" a Big Block
@@pete4334 I didn't say it was. There was a whole series of LS engines before the modern tall-deck small block that was introduced in 1997. The first LS7 was a 454 big block, produced in 1970. There was also an LS6, an LS5, and an LS4 454, all introduced in 1970.
Why not a proton drive?
Now I remember why I only owns Mercedes Benz 😃
Its not the engine, its the fuel injection, as two Words and a bunch of numbers, Folk Wulf 190, the car is literally using a fighter planes fuel injection system, Ian Tyrell went over it in one of his videos, the god damn thing is using the dump all the fuel in and make as much boom as possible fuel injection system of a fighterplane from the war that gives it its throttle response lol
That explains the fuel economy 😂👌🏻
@@VisioRacer HAHAHAHAHAHA wonderful!!!
Amg was not founded by mercedes, they were 2 mechanics pationed with technology, built the engine and they created amg, then Mercedes took them under their wing and merged.
It was Rudolf UhlenHaut.. not UhlenBaut !
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Ford ❤️🔥
FK THE ENGINE, SENSORS AT A GRAND EACH YOU CAN WHISTLE
German Muscle Car.
6.9? ni.ce