It opened when I was 17. My home town in San Jose the mall also opened in 1972. My parents were still alive and I have warm memories of sitting around and watching shows All in the family and Samford and Son. I really miss my parents and childhood. You have no idea what you have till it's gone forever. 😢
This is one of those malls where it amazes me to see the closed storefronts, not because they were from the 70s or 80s (well, besides for the anchor storefronts), but that they were mostly all 2000s and 2010s storefronts. It's crazy to think that these malls that were still doing well enough to have modern stores only a decade or so ago. It makes me feel really old lol. The world and malls for that matter, really can change so fast within a decade. Amazing work as always!
We tend to think of heavy demographic changes dooming these malls starting the late 1980s and ending sometime in the early 2000s, but the importance of GM and other car makers hollowing out their Detroit and northern Ohio manufacturing and office operations following the 2008 recession cannot be understated. My father lived north of Detroit in the early 2000s and even back then the area was still quite vibrant. 2008 and what followed were certainly felt in other parts of the country as well, but Michigan and Ohio really took a beating in particular.
Thank you SO much for posting this. I’ve commented before and sent you a directory scan, but in the 80’s and 90’s the Fashion Square and subsequently Midland Mall were essentially my only two malls anywhere near me, living about 1 hour and 20 minutes north of Fashion Square and maybe 45 minutes north from Midland. Fashion Square though was the ONLY real mall in the area when I was just a little kid in the 80’s. And back then, although slightly outdated in a 70’s look, it was still absolutely thriving, looked as it did in 1972, and a real gem. If I could show my younger self in 1985 this video back then? Wow. Even as a kid I wouldn’t be able to believe it. I spent a lot of time in this place, even not being very close. In addition to the large center fountain, Fashion Square also had some other fountains connected to conversation pits in its other shopping arms. The center smaller tiles you see in those now, especially closer to the anchor stores, were mainly where they were. It also used to have big globe lights on poles in the walkways, almost like outdoor lights indoors. I vividly remember the particular smell of churning water, kind of like you experience by a waterfall, inside Fashion Square from the many fountains, as well as a little chlorine. Hudson’s in particular used to be another jewel in this mall’s crown, with several floors. I swear it had three, but I was a kid, so maybe just two. I’m subscribed to a good handful of dead mall channels, and have watched hundreds of videos, but I swear this is the very first I’ve seen of either of my two malls I had growing up, and I appreciate that. Midland Mall though, as you know, was really my primary Mall growing up, since by the time it opened I was an adolescent and then a teenager. That coupled with it being a closer easier drive, and I used to go there a LOT. Even the first week it opened in 1991. I absolutely cannot wait to see your video on that, and finally have it get some face time. I swear I can’t hardly even find still pictures of it online, much less video. But it’s impossible to describe how absolutely beautiful that mall and the land surrounding it was in the earliest years it was open.
The Hudson's in Genesee Valley Mall had 3 floors. Fashion Square Hudson had 2 floors. And I agree, Fashion Square was beautiful. As a little kid living in metro Detroit I was taken to all the big fancy malls there; Northland, Eastland, Southland and of course Westland. They had their charms but Fashion Square was beautiful and welcoming at every season. The crime inside and out as well as the loss of Hudson killed it for me so I shopped elsewhere and now really only shop online.
Visited this mall multiple times when I lived in the area. Have not been in over 20 years... what a trip down memory lane! So sad to see it vacant now.
5:06 - The "Main Entrance" for Fashion Square wasn't really a popular entry at any point in the last ~20 years. Most people preferred to enter the mall at the anchors, or at the food court (which is basically right next to the "main entrance"). Plus very little interesting was ever located in the entrance wing, and to minimize walking distance, it made more sense to enter elsewhere. Also in that time period (ending within the last 5 years or so), there was a phenomenon where people would go to the mall specifically for the food court, as, until recently, there weren't a lot of other "fast food" options in the immediate area. McDonald's and Panda Express leaving in favor of their own permanent locations adjacent to the mall property (and, likely, much lower rent) saw the downturn in this kind of traffic though. 7:01 - Totally agree with this sentiment, and I'd add even into the 90s and early 2000s. For decades Saginaw has lacked much in the way of free/low cost fun activities and so often people would go to the mall just to "hang out". 11:59 - This is kind of random, but I actually helped set up these video screens in the food court about 10 years ago, apparently the mall had a number of these installed throughout the wings at one point but took them down after the advertiser decided it wasn't profitable anymore. The advertiser didn't want the screens (they had changed hands several times) and so the mall had them stored in a back room (unused, walled off shop space) along with a bunch of other out-of-use equipment ("island" shop carts, various facade pieces, Christmas decorations, etc). Another local advertiser reached out about it and the mall basically said "if you can make them work they're yours" to him. That advertiser (basically a 1-man operation) reached out to me to try to "fix" them, on a shoestring budget. The computers in them are actually modular so we ended up swapping hardware around until we got 4 that booted (into Windows XP, I might add). The screens would have no internet connectivity (the mall would have charged for that) so I got to set them up to connect to a "master" screen via a $30 wireless router we got across the street at Best Buy, so that the advertiser could upload their files via like FTP or something (file transfers to a Windows XP machine over a network is a HUGE pain) and then the other screens would grab the new files from the "master" when they rebooted each night via some clever batch file scripts. The images themselves played on what was literally just a Windows slideshow Screensaver, no extra software required, just dump pictures in the right folder. The system worked pretty well, unfortunately, the advertiser was a bit tech illiterate, so he had trouble updating the files after it was set up, and since the screens were probably already 10-20 years old at that point, they eventually died out, and they never bothered to do anything else with them. In any case, it was an fun way to earn $300 at the time. 😅 14:18 - FeelsBadMan.jpg
I remember in the 80s my oldest brother worked as a manager in an arcade store(?) at Bayview Village in North York, Ontario. I had fun there cause my brother would let me play the games for free. Sadly the arcade store in the mall has long since disappeared. Good times.
First movie I saw at that theater was "The nightmare before Christmas!" That theater was booming until the Quad near Meijer up the road got a huge makeover!
Breaks my heart seeing this mall the way it is now . I’m 27 now , when this mall was booming believe it or not this mall always ALWAYS use to be packed . There even use to be a McDonald’s to the far right in the food court , now there’s only 3 places to eat now :( , sucks my son won’t understand the happiness this mall brought lots and lots of us in Saginaw /:
Seems like Proactiv vending machines are in a lot of these malls. I know the mall near me that died (Laguna Hills Mall - demolished and now vacant lot ☹️) also had this machine and a Bath & Body Works. Hats off to these companies for helping keep the lights on.
Just some facts and info for you all from a local. The entrance wing that goes straight to the Macy's has been empty like that for years now and never received that much traffic due to the anchors being the main force of traffic for the mall. The Macy's has not been renovated pretty much ever and still looks like what It would have looked like when it was Hudson's. This mall has been on a steady decline through the 2010's but as soon as Sears left in 2019, the decline became significantly worse and kohan buying the mall recently has made the situation worse. I personally believe that if JCPenney or Macy's decides to close up shop this malls days will be numbered but if those stores stay the mall will stay open.
The same will happen if JC Penny's or Macy's closes at The Crossroads Mall in Kazoo and the mall will shut down. Sears closed in the fall of 2019 and Burlington moved on my side of town that used to be Maple Hill Mall which got de-malled in the mid-2000s in fall of 2021.
@Ben B I visited that mall as well and it definitely isn't as dead as fashion square is but I do agree it is in the same boat. That was also the mall I got thrown out by security for taken pictures and they made me delete my photos which I realized later they had no right to do. Oh well, I probably won't go back there anyways.
Used to love going into this Mall... it had a Disney Store!!!! Every Holiday Season We would set up in this one.. B/C & Midland and sell Coins & Nascar Diecast shows.... Good Times!!!
I've never before heard of Namdar selling a mall to Kohan or vice-versa. Many people think the two companies are related because their HQ's are in the same town less than a mile apart, but they're completely separate.
Same, about hearing that Namdar sold a mall to Kohan. Both of the "Oh noooooo" mall devs every time we hear about them, but never in this way. I also didn't know that there were people thinking that they were branches of each other and related when they aren't, and I know they aren't.
My daughter when she was little got her ears pierced at that Claires. Malls are alive and here in Texas. I am shocked at this mall. Heck ten years ago it was practically full. Thanks for memories.
This was pretty good. The food court didn't have a lot of choice. I think that could be important. Namdar Realty Group is trouble. Hoping JCPenney & Macy's keep this one alive.
Crime inside and outside really killed this mall. Gangs of roaming, intimidating teens inside made it very uncomfortable. In the lots outside there were purse snatching, robbery and rape or kidnapping, a real turn off. The mall was wonderful for so many years it was amazing. I grew up coming "far south" to the mall for school clothes, holiday shopping and all the store demos in Sears, Penney store and Hudson. The aromas of holiday foods thru the mall were unbeatable. For some reason all demos were ended and crime was allowed to take over. I remember the last time I was in each original anchor store and it was so sad I simply stopped going there. Even in broad daylight the parking lot was not safe. It was a safe and easy choice to go to Hampton Square mall in Essexville after I had moved to Bay City. No roaming teens picking on shoppers, no fear in the parking lots. Then that one went down the tubes! I never liked the Bay City mall because by then I had grown to enjoy shopping downtown and friends were forced out of business by the mall. So the downtown stores in both Bay City and Saginaw at mostly dead and so are the malls and as a result we either do all our shopping online or we go to Walmart. How awful!
Local here, great video and I appreciate you showcasing it. There was another mall in Hampton Township that started its downfall after the Bay City Mall opened in '91. It's called the Hampton Town Center and it's still there, but unfortunately there is no interior access to the public, but it is as it was when it finally closed.
Ah, Fashion Square Mall! When I was a kid, we'd go there to ride the escalator because it was the only one in the area and so unusual at that time. Typically, the security guard would make us get off after about 5 times. It sure was fun!
I remember when Fashion Square opened was very crowded to walk in especially in the 80s it was sad when they took the fountain away and the food court came it took away the few restaurants that was in the mall. I was born and raised here is Saginaw Michigan and still go to the mall once in awhile . It was a booming mall back in the day 😢😢😢
@@NorthCdogg22 When I was a teenager in the 80s I thought malls to be exciting and the place to be. Then after I got married in the 1999 I felt them to be suffocating. I guess I am part of the problem! Anyway, I enjoy your videos!
I love dead malls, as a kid i lived on an island and we would go to the town of port hardy canada for shopping, the small town has not one but two dead malls! I was always facinated with the emptiness of the local malls.
Oh man I thought you were going to Fashion Square Mall in Orlando 😭 If you're ever able to come to Florida, I really recommend Fashion Square, it's so incredibly liminal. There's actually quite a few dead malls in Central Florida that not a lot of people have made videos about.
This was still a very active mall 10 years ago. Mid 2010s real trouble set in for this mall. At the same time shipping speeds dramatically increased for online shopping. It’s pretty clear who killed this mall I don’t even have to say a name.
Why is it that malls are getting rid of their most beautiful fountains and other centerpieces? Cost of upkeep and/or fashion faux pas of today's reigning fashion? Sad to see complete mall entrances like this even after this far from the lockdown era. Beautiful area... would be nice to check this place out as part of my first time in this area... if still there.
I thought this was gonna be about the "Chris Chan Mall" that's called Fashion Square as well. It's in Virginia and was Chris's go to place to get a boyfriend free girl.
We have a dead mall in Orlando, FL called Fashion Square that was also anchored by a Sears and JC Penny lol. Both of which are long gone, and now the only place anyone goes there is Planet Fitness.
We are seeing the B level malls failing now. Only A level/destination malls will be left. Inflation is killing the consumer, and the last thing they want to do is look for impulse buys at a mall. We are more than likely about to lose several more malls in the near future. I really like the food court addition here. It looks really well designed.
I honestly wonder how much these mall charge for store fronts are they really doomed or is it greed. Some of these malls are still in decent enough locations, at least in my area , where they could be used for smaller business and hobby stores.
I'm surprised that FYE got the new logo I thought that it be the old logo since Fashion Square Mall is a dead mall. I agree that if Penny's or Macy's closes Fashion Square will be no more. If you ever visit Michigan for more dead malls you may want to do The Crossroads Mall it is somewhat of a dead mall or getting there major potholes on the lower level of JC Penny's parking lot management is going to fix them beginning in May, also want Metro Transit to pay for some it as well I don't think Metro has the money to do that from a report from local TV station WWMT in Kazoo reported on it.
At least it hasn't become a complete blight. This is a case of waste management. People who lament their weekly mall visits, now haven't been there for years. Those cute teens we vaguely recall are now 200 lb facebook freaks.
Next mall is Bay City Mall / Bay city town center. It is definitely in the worst state interior tenant wise but it still has some life left. Unfortunately I believe that the company that owns it is trying to turn it more into a strip mall. 😢
If the satellites in space started to run into each other and everything started going off line malls would make a huge comeback almost overnight. Chances of this happening in the future like 5%😂
That names sounds like the one who built jamestown mall and the old Photo of back then look like jamestown mall from the outside now how jamestown got it looks
Hey NorthCdogg22 , I don’t understand why guards like to Bother people who like u want to document places which encourage more people to come and eventually bring more stores and life back to the areas , glad ur safe thought , sadly a lot of times places have guards who are like that ur not alone
It opened when I was 17. My home town in San Jose the mall also opened in 1972. My parents were still alive and I have warm memories of sitting around and watching shows All in the family and Samford and Son. I really miss my parents and childhood. You have no idea what you have till it's gone forever. 😢
This is one of those malls where it amazes me to see the closed storefronts, not because they were from the 70s or 80s (well, besides for the anchor storefronts), but that they were mostly all 2000s and 2010s storefronts. It's crazy to think that these malls that were still doing well enough to have modern stores only a decade or so ago. It makes me feel really old lol. The world and malls for that matter, really can change so fast within a decade. Amazing work as always!
Thanks Jostalgic!
We tend to think of heavy demographic changes dooming these malls starting the late 1980s and ending sometime in the early 2000s, but the importance of GM and other car makers hollowing out their Detroit and northern Ohio manufacturing and office operations following the 2008 recession cannot be understated. My father lived north of Detroit in the early 2000s and even back then the area was still quite vibrant. 2008 and what followed were certainly felt in other parts of the country as well, but Michigan and Ohio really took a beating in particular.
Used to come here every day after school to hit up the Alladin's Castle Arcade to play Dance Dance Revolution. I pretty much grew up here!
Thank you SO much for posting this. I’ve commented before and sent you a directory scan, but in the 80’s and 90’s the Fashion Square and subsequently Midland Mall were essentially my only two malls anywhere near me, living about 1 hour and 20 minutes north of Fashion Square and maybe 45 minutes north from Midland. Fashion Square though was the ONLY real mall in the area when I was just a little kid in the 80’s. And back then, although slightly outdated in a 70’s look, it was still absolutely thriving, looked as it did in 1972, and a real gem. If I could show my younger self in 1985 this video back then? Wow. Even as a kid I wouldn’t be able to believe it. I spent a lot of time in this place, even not being very close. In addition to the large center fountain, Fashion Square also had some other fountains connected to conversation pits in its other shopping arms. The center smaller tiles you see in those now, especially closer to the anchor stores, were mainly where they were. It also used to have big globe lights on poles in the walkways, almost like outdoor lights indoors. I vividly remember the particular smell of churning water, kind of like you experience by a waterfall, inside Fashion Square from the many fountains, as well as a little chlorine. Hudson’s in particular used to be another jewel in this mall’s crown, with several floors. I swear it had three, but I was a kid, so maybe just two. I’m subscribed to a good handful of dead mall channels, and have watched hundreds of videos, but I swear this is the very first I’ve seen of either of my two malls I had growing up, and I appreciate that. Midland Mall though, as you know, was really my primary Mall growing up, since by the time it opened I was an adolescent and then a teenager. That coupled with it being a closer easier drive, and I used to go there a LOT. Even the first week it opened in 1991. I absolutely cannot wait to see your video on that, and finally have it get some face time. I swear I can’t hardly even find still pictures of it online, much less video. But it’s impossible to describe how absolutely beautiful that mall and the land surrounding it was in the earliest years it was open.
Thank you so much for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed, and had lots of good memories at these malls! They are all beautiful
The Hudson's in Genesee Valley Mall had 3 floors. Fashion Square Hudson had 2 floors. And I agree, Fashion Square was beautiful. As a little kid living in metro Detroit I was taken to all the big fancy malls there; Northland, Eastland, Southland and of course Westland. They had their charms but Fashion Square was beautiful and welcoming at every season. The crime inside and out as well as the loss of Hudson killed it for me so I shopped elsewhere and now really only shop online.
Visited this mall multiple times when I lived in the area. Have not been in over 20 years... what a trip down memory lane! So sad to see it vacant now.
5:06 - The "Main Entrance" for Fashion Square wasn't really a popular entry at any point in the last ~20 years. Most people preferred to enter the mall at the anchors, or at the food court (which is basically right next to the "main entrance"). Plus very little interesting was ever located in the entrance wing, and to minimize walking distance, it made more sense to enter elsewhere. Also in that time period (ending within the last 5 years or so), there was a phenomenon where people would go to the mall specifically for the food court, as, until recently, there weren't a lot of other "fast food" options in the immediate area. McDonald's and Panda Express leaving in favor of their own permanent locations adjacent to the mall property (and, likely, much lower rent) saw the downturn in this kind of traffic though.
7:01 - Totally agree with this sentiment, and I'd add even into the 90s and early 2000s. For decades Saginaw has lacked much in the way of free/low cost fun activities and so often people would go to the mall just to "hang out".
11:59 - This is kind of random, but I actually helped set up these video screens in the food court about 10 years ago, apparently the mall had a number of these installed throughout the wings at one point but took them down after the advertiser decided it wasn't profitable anymore. The advertiser didn't want the screens (they had changed hands several times) and so the mall had them stored in a back room (unused, walled off shop space) along with a bunch of other out-of-use equipment ("island" shop carts, various facade pieces, Christmas decorations, etc). Another local advertiser reached out about it and the mall basically said "if you can make them work they're yours" to him. That advertiser (basically a 1-man operation) reached out to me to try to "fix" them, on a shoestring budget. The computers in them are actually modular so we ended up swapping hardware around until we got 4 that booted (into Windows XP, I might add). The screens would have no internet connectivity (the mall would have charged for that) so I got to set them up to connect to a "master" screen via a $30 wireless router we got across the street at Best Buy, so that the advertiser could upload their files via like FTP or something (file transfers to a Windows XP machine over a network is a HUGE pain) and then the other screens would grab the new files from the "master" when they rebooted each night via some clever batch file scripts. The images themselves played on what was literally just a Windows slideshow Screensaver, no extra software required, just dump pictures in the right folder. The system worked pretty well, unfortunately, the advertiser was a bit tech illiterate, so he had trouble updating the files after it was set up, and since the screens were probably already 10-20 years old at that point, they eventually died out, and they never bothered to do anything else with them. In any case, it was an fun way to earn $300 at the time. 😅
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I remember in the 80s my oldest brother worked as a manager in an arcade store(?) at Bayview Village in North York, Ontario. I had fun there cause my brother would let me play the games for free. Sadly the arcade store in the mall has long since disappeared. Good times.
First movie I saw at that theater was "The nightmare before Christmas!" That theater was booming until the Quad near Meijer up the road got a huge makeover!
I remember the Quad! Good times
Breaks my heart seeing this mall the way it is now . I’m 27 now , when this mall was booming believe it or not this mall always ALWAYS use to be packed . There even use to be a McDonald’s to the far right in the food court , now there’s only 3 places to eat now :( , sucks my son won’t understand the happiness this mall brought lots and lots of us in Saginaw /:
Great video my friend!
Seems like Proactiv vending machines are in a lot of these malls. I know the mall near me that died (Laguna Hills Mall - demolished and now vacant lot ☹️) also had this machine and a Bath & Body Works. Hats off to these companies for helping keep the lights on.
Is proactive one of them sport drinks? Started with Gatorade and now there are multiple brands.
Just some facts and info for you all from a local. The entrance wing that goes straight to the Macy's has been empty like that for years now and never received that much traffic due to the anchors being the main force of traffic for the mall. The Macy's has not been renovated pretty much ever and still looks like what It would have looked like when it was Hudson's. This mall has been on a steady decline through the 2010's but as soon as Sears left in 2019, the decline became significantly worse and kohan buying the mall recently has made the situation worse. I personally believe that if JCPenney or Macy's decides to close up shop this malls days will be numbered but if those stores stay the mall will stay open.
Thanks for the Info stormicus! Knowing that I kinda wish I would’ve gone in an checked out that Macys!
The same will happen if JC Penny's or Macy's closes at The Crossroads Mall in Kazoo and the mall will shut down. Sears closed in the fall of 2019 and Burlington moved on my side of town that used to be Maple Hill Mall which got de-malled in the mid-2000s in fall of 2021.
@Ben B I visited that mall as well and it definitely isn't as dead as fashion square is but I do agree it is in the same boat. That was also the mall I got thrown out by security for taken pictures and they made me delete my photos which I realized later they had no right to do. Oh well, I probably won't go back there anyways.
Used to love going into this Mall... it had a Disney Store!!!! Every Holiday Season We would set up in this one.. B/C & Midland and sell Coins & Nascar Diecast shows.... Good Times!!!
I've never before heard of Namdar selling a mall to Kohan or vice-versa. Many people think the two companies are related because their HQ's are in the same town less than a mile apart, but they're completely separate.
Same, about hearing that Namdar sold a mall to Kohan. Both of the "Oh noooooo" mall devs every time we hear about them, but never in this way.
I also didn't know that there were people thinking that they were branches of each other and related when they aren't, and I know they aren't.
12:54 I love how “Delicious Sweets” never bothered to get rid of or paint over Subway’s vegetable tiles.
Vegetables are central Michiganders favorites sorts of sweets😂
My daughter when she was little got her ears pierced at that Claires. Malls are alive and here in Texas. I am shocked at this mall. Heck ten years ago it was practically full. Thanks for memories.
This was pretty good. The food court didn't have a lot of choice. I think that could be important. Namdar Realty Group is trouble. Hoping JCPenney & Macy's keep this one alive.
I did work at this mall for about a year
Crime inside and outside really killed this mall. Gangs of roaming, intimidating teens inside made it very uncomfortable. In the lots outside there were purse snatching, robbery and rape or kidnapping, a real turn off. The mall was wonderful for so many years it was amazing. I grew up coming "far south" to the mall for school clothes, holiday shopping and all the store demos in Sears, Penney store and Hudson. The aromas of holiday foods thru the mall were unbeatable. For some reason all demos were ended and crime was allowed to take over. I remember the last time I was in each original anchor store and it was so sad I simply stopped going there. Even in broad daylight the parking lot was not safe. It was a safe and easy choice to go to Hampton Square mall in Essexville after I had moved to Bay City. No roaming teens picking on shoppers, no fear in the parking lots. Then that one went down the tubes! I never liked the Bay City mall because by then I had grown to enjoy shopping downtown and friends were forced out of business by the mall. So the downtown stores in both Bay City and Saginaw at mostly dead and so are the malls and as a result we either do all our shopping online or we go to Walmart. How awful!
Local here, great video and I appreciate you showcasing it.
There was another mall in Hampton Township that started its downfall after the Bay City Mall opened in '91.
It's called the Hampton Town Center and it's still there, but unfortunately there is no interior access to the public, but it is as it was when it finally closed.
Hey can you plz tell how's the traffic at FASHION SQUARE MALL?
Wiechmann's was a local department store that opened with the mall as a junior anchor. It later became the food court.
Ah, Fashion Square Mall! When I was a kid, we'd go there to ride the escalator because it was the only one in the area and so unusual at that time. Typically, the security guard would make us get off after about 5 times. It sure was fun!
Great video. Fashion Square looks like a good mall and I hope the owners can save it from closure in the future.
Thanks! And I agree, it has great bones, it just needs more life
Amazing video as always North!
Thanks CoolCat!
Hey Northcote I recently found out that there's still one sears remaining
With the bright, wide, empty concourses, this is like a mall being shipped through space.
I remember when Fashion Square opened was very crowded to walk in especially in the 80s it was sad when they took the fountain away and the food court came it took away the few restaurants that was in the mall. I was born and raised here is Saginaw Michigan and still go to the mall once in awhile . It was a booming mall back in the day 😢😢😢
Vaporwave, nice!
Glad you like it!
@@NorthCdogg22 When I was a teenager in the 80s I thought malls to be exciting and the place to be. Then after I got married in the 1999 I felt them to be suffocating. I guess I am part of the problem! Anyway, I enjoy your videos!
Bay city Towne Center or Midland Mall next great video!!!
Yes sir, you got it! Thanks for watching!
The mall looked very cool inside. It’s only a matter of time with Kohan buying it.
Great video!
Thanks!
Great great video as always
Thanks Mark!
I love dead malls, as a kid i lived on an island and we would go to the town of port hardy canada for shopping, the small town has not one but two dead malls! I was always facinated with the emptiness of the local malls.
And plus i remember them when they were lit with neons and packed with shoppers, today they are early 1980s time capsules
Mom used to take us to Penny's to ride the escalator and my goodness what a way to spend an afternoon!!!
Midland Mall will be the next video, Great job on this one. I think I counted like 2 other shoppers there
Thanks for watching!
Oh man I thought you were going to Fashion Square Mall in Orlando 😭 If you're ever able to come to Florida, I really recommend Fashion Square, it's so incredibly liminal. There's actually quite a few dead malls in Central Florida that not a lot of people have made videos about.
That’s on my list! There are so many in Florida I’m dying to see one day
The Aladdin's Castle Arcade was located in one of these spaces shown at 3:42. I made regular trips to this Arcade in the mid to late 1980s.
HOORAY!
This was still a very active mall 10 years ago. Mid 2010s real trouble set in for this mall. At the same time shipping speeds dramatically increased for online shopping. It’s pretty clear who killed this mall I don’t even have to say a name.
Anyone local remember taco bell being near the main entrance before the food court in the 90s??
I remember this! The pet store was right next door, I believe.
@@janelletalley7341 YES!!!! Then later the pet store was “Funco Land!”
Betttt even though I’m at a restaurant
new banger from the goat
Helllll yeah brother
That's a really big and nice looking mall compared to these around tampa. That sux to see it dead. Good to see you back.
Thanks Seabee!
Why is it that malls are getting rid of their most beautiful fountains and other centerpieces? Cost of upkeep and/or fashion faux pas of today's reigning fashion? Sad to see complete mall entrances like this even after this far from the lockdown era. Beautiful area... would be nice to check this place out as part of my first time in this area... if still there.
I thought this was gonna be about the "Chris Chan Mall" that's called Fashion Square as well. It's in Virginia and was Chris's go to place to get a boyfriend free girl.
Now that’s a rabbit hole I haven’t dove down in YEARS
We have a dead mall in Orlando, FL called Fashion Square that was also anchored by a Sears and JC Penny lol. Both of which are long gone, and now the only place anyone goes there is Planet Fitness.
This looks just like Regency Mall in Racine WI.
First spot on the right, the fancy white was a vape shop in high school lol
Marti Walker!! I loved that store
I remember that mall being wall to wall people all day.
If the guard is following you, act like you;re talking to your phone.
Oh yeah, that’s my #1 tactic usually
We are seeing the B level malls failing now. Only A level/destination malls will be left. Inflation is killing the consumer, and the last thing they want to do is look for impulse buys at a mall. We are more than likely about to lose several more malls in the near future. I really like the food court addition here. It looks really well designed.
Bay city mall next?
You know it!
You know it is bad when they don't even bother to take down the Sears signs
Another NAMDAR Disaster
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Request: Concord Mall In Indiana (Its A Long Drive From Pontiac)
Your in luck! I already have a video on that mall, check out Season 4 Episode 14
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What About Fayette Mall In Lexington, Kentucky? (Its A Far Drive Too)
You should visit the fashion square mall in Charlottesville Virginia
I live very close and its sad to see how dead it is i see about 7 other shoppers when i go there
I honestly wonder how much these mall charge for store fronts
are they really doomed or is it greed. Some of these malls are still in decent enough locations, at least in my area , where they could be used for smaller business and hobby stores.
Laurel Park, Brairwood and Fairlane Town Center are good malls to visit
As of November of 2024 there is only 35 inline tenants leaving the mall at 40% occupied. Not looking good.
I'm surprised that FYE got the new logo I thought that it be the old logo since Fashion Square Mall is a dead mall. I agree that if Penny's or Macy's closes Fashion Square will be no more. If you ever visit Michigan for more dead malls you may want to do The Crossroads Mall it is somewhat of a dead mall or getting there major potholes on the lower level of JC Penny's parking lot management is going to fix them beginning in May, also want Metro Transit to pay for some it as well I don't think Metro has the money to do that from a report from local TV station WWMT in Kazoo reported on it.
I think the arcade used to be the time out arcades, they just kept the colors and changed the name.
At least it hasn't become a complete blight. This is a case of waste management.
People who lament their weekly mall visits, now haven't been there for years. Those cute teens we vaguely recall are now 200 lb facebook freaks.
bay town or midland mall
Would the next mall you are going to happen to be Midland Mall?
Not quite! But good guess
Next mall is Bay City Mall / Bay city town center. It is definitely in the worst state interior tenant wise but it still has some life left. Unfortunately I believe that the company that owns it is trying to turn it more into a strip mall. 😢
Yep! And your right, it’s so sad especially because it has such a relaxing atmosphere
@@NorthCdogg22 bay city mall next whattttt
@@NorthCdogg22 My family happens to be friends with the genral manager of this mall but I haven't gotten any information from her.
The empire is crumbling - goodbye useless-A
If the satellites in space started to run into each other and everything started going off line malls would make a huge comeback almost overnight. Chances of this happening in the future like 5%😂
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So sad! This used to be the place to be.
That names sounds like the one who built jamestown mall and the old Photo of back then look like jamestown mall from the outside now how jamestown got it looks
Thought u went to arizona for a sec tbh xd
Too many closed stores abandoned houses and schools😢
Hey NorthCdogg22 , I don’t understand why guards like to Bother people who like u want to document places which encourage more people to come and eventually bring more stores and life back to the areas , glad ur safe thought , sadly a lot of times places have guards who are like that ur not alone
Thanks Alexis!
Chris Chan mall
Germany loves to see the USA going down. 😂❤
Any recent videos?? Not months old
I’ve recently been to a lot of malls recently! Even a few weeks ago I was in Baltimore. But I gotta upload these older ones
Do you ever film malls when they're actually open?
Yup, all of my videos are filmed when malls are open, that’s usually how I get through the doors
@@NorthCdogg22 unless you sneak in when it’s closed for good
Very true
@@NorthCdogg22 I’ve done that XD