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  • @lumispark
    @lumispark Месяц назад +176

    The entire drama with zylice and maple is so crazy but don't forget the fact that rrtyui S ranked Image Material in a showmatch, completely beating WubWoofWolf's best score at the time and almost fc'ing it.

    • @asrielle156
      @asrielle156 Месяц назад +7

      real shit

    • @kanari-
      @kanari- Месяц назад +1

      absolutely crazy, i think rrtyui is secretly playing mrekk's account and giving him 1.3k pp plays

    • @euphorium6
      @euphorium6 Месяц назад +2

      rrtyui my goat

    • @BlafesSky
      @BlafesSky Месяц назад +9

      is witnessing my glorious king rrtyui S ranking Image material in a showmatch the cure to male loneliness?

    • @kurokun07
      @kurokun07 Месяц назад +1

      osu peaked at that time frfr

  • @depriw7873
    @depriw7873 Месяц назад +409

    funny that the people who mentioned Maple got punished but Zylice who used it got nothing

    • @bajhi_
      @bajhi_ Месяц назад +5

      bruh

    • @chitose5472
      @chitose5472 Месяц назад +40

      Correct me if I'm wrong but I've seen people on Reddit say that using Maple offline doesn't make you bannable. The previous cases of bans because of offline Maple use were actually people who used Maple on bancho and used "I only used it offline" as an excuse when it wasn't true.

    • @ferrari05.
      @ferrari05. Месяц назад +43

      @@chitose5472 I think having cheats on ur pc in general or showing them off should be bannable bcs he literally bought them.

    • @kiyoponnn
      @kiyoponnn Месяц назад +19

      ​​​​​​@@chitose5472 it should be considering he has a history of cheating, plus you don't need to download cheats yourself to prove someone is cheating. Analysing the replay provides more than enough proof. Also I like how he tries to claim he was "passive" and a "bystander". If that were truly the case: A. He would have told the others to end the farcical investigation and B. Leave the server and C. Not use cheats for a video. 😂😂 Truly shameless.

    • @FullAltOsu
      @FullAltOsu Месяц назад

      Exactly lmfaoooo

  • @nahuelcarrizo308
    @nahuelcarrizo308 Месяц назад +53

    shige getting buffed by doing nothing happens once again, I love it

  • @SixDigitOsu
    @SixDigitOsu Месяц назад +153

    MY CHOKES WILL FINALLY BE FORGIVEN🙏🙏🙏

    • @miguel_noob6668
      @miguel_noob6668 Месяц назад

      vc DENOVO 😡😡😡😡😡

    • @aydenk-tb8pu
      @aydenk-tb8pu Месяц назад

      @@miguel_noob6668 blud might want to vc💀💀

    • @thetolepi
      @thetolepi Месяц назад +2

      ​@@aydenk-tb8puits actually portuguese, it says "YOU AGAIN"

    • @SixDigitOsu
      @SixDigitOsu Месяц назад

      @@miguel_noob6668 pega no meu ovo

    • @miguel_noob6668
      @miguel_noob6668 Месяц назад

      ​​@@aydenk-tb8pu "vc" means "você" in portuguese, which means "you"
      "vc denovo" means "you again"

  • @sh1rom1su
    @sh1rom1su Месяц назад +149

    idc what happens, i'm not leaving the osu community because people like stew still exist

  • @MinisBett
    @MinisBett Месяц назад +21

    1. Where you miss does *not* matter, in fact the PP calc does not even know where you missed. CSR means that combo is disregarded in terms of scaling the PP with some factor. Instead, that sort of stuff is now represented by a better-made miss penalty, which simply punishes your misses. The only place where you might still find varying PP due to combo is due to the effective misscount estimation, a mathematical tool in PP to estimate the amount of slider breaks done based on your combo. But this does not fall under "combo scaling".
    2. The CSR rework has been confirmed to be an ultimate goal of PP development for a while, and had been approved before. What changed now is that in April, CSR got an update and thus the PP committee had to approve the rework again, which now happened. The time until this rework will actually be deployed is unknown, but I personally would say it most likely will happen very late this year.

    • @FullAltOsu
      @FullAltOsu Месяц назад

      why are S ranks not same as FC tho 😔
      and i don't even mean a low acc play, my 3x 100 hikari 1sb would be almost 700pp for fc but even with the rework it's barely 600pp 💀

    • @maersel
      @maersel Месяц назад

      @@FullAltOsu because sb = miss

    • @FullAltOsu
      @FullAltOsu Месяц назад

      @@maersel so it's really gonna eat up 100pp for one miss? cuz rn if i just put a 1 miss at the end and calculate it's still 650pp

    • @maersel
      @maersel Месяц назад

      @@FullAltOsu I guess, idk exactly how the calculation works

    • @googlehupf8424
      @googlehupf8424 Месяц назад +2

      Btw, anyone has a link to the pp rework calculator site? Would really be appreciated

  • @yasinemirornek2459
    @yasinemirornek2459 Месяц назад +41

    I'm loving these dramas dude but this forum thing is literally fuxked up

  • @namthezoo
    @namthezoo Месяц назад +13

    7:25 Yes thank you for including our fellow SS champion!!
    I farm SS myself and would love to see other players big SS milestones in your videos from time to time.
    Of course I know we're a tiny part of the community, but I love seeing bigger channels like yours mention these kinds of milestones.

    • @sst3w
      @sst3w  Месяц назад +1

      🫡❤️

  • @fekl0416
    @fekl0416 Месяц назад +8

    Sst3w upload lets gooo

  • @BurritoBTW
    @BurritoBTW Месяц назад +39

    Filipino Maple...

  • @RaidenEdits
    @RaidenEdits Месяц назад +6

    This rework is beautiful for people like me. Who can hit the diff spikes on so many maps but shit misses because of a break or tempo decrease

  • @vepply
    @vepply Месяц назад +2

    THIS rework seems like a really good step in the right direction im excited to see how it pans out

  • @aannttt1267
    @aannttt1267 Месяц назад +1

    Bro the best thing I’ve found from this drama is the maple twitter account thingy… that account has some good tweets 🤣🤣

  • @BeeboXD
    @BeeboXD Месяц назад +1

    Happy birthday sst3w!

  • @VictorianSnailGod
    @VictorianSnailGod Месяц назад +5

    Can’t wait to play the new rework

  • @Kayooooooooo
    @Kayooooooooo Месяц назад +15

    Not defending Zylice here, but it's crazy that he is the face of this whole WHP extermination squad thing, even though there are probably other people behind the scenes orchestrating the takedown attempt with infinitely more malicious intent than Zylice, and they have just gotten away completely scot-free. And now the community has no idea not to trust them. (From my knowledge, the members list of the server was never shown to the public)
    It's kind of scary because I never would have expected someone like Badeu to do something like this. You legit can't trust anybody it seems.

    • @thetissuebandit5815
      @thetissuebandit5815 Месяц назад +14

      The biggest part of the zylice hate is that players have been banned previously for using cheats even if it's offline but he's gotten away with it completely plus he's the highest rank player and a big content creator so naturally he's going to get a lot of the hate, I mean whp was one of his teammates in an upcoming tournament it's crazy he would snake him like that

    • @ventilateur2
      @ventilateur2 Месяц назад +3

      I don't understand why that small incident creates so much hate on zylice despite the good things he did for the community in the past

    • @koishi5935
      @koishi5935 Месяц назад +3

      That's the exact reason. When you present yourself as someone who is a force for good in the community then this snakey backstabbing behavior gets revealed, it's more of a big deal than if we always knew they were that way

    • @inner7559
      @inner7559 Месяц назад +2

      Im pretty sure one of the members is chicony, whenever i opened his stream he was complayining about no handcam and shaky aim in WHR plays, but now he is real quiet😂

    • @FullAltOsu
      @FullAltOsu Месяц назад

      @@inner7559 why is he even trying to find hackers, bro could benefit a lot by actually trying to improve, haven't seen a chicony play show up on my yt since the mesolithic era

  • @ImJustAPlayerMan
    @ImJustAPlayerMan Месяц назад +4

    if standard gets the mania treatment in pp gained and leaderboard scoring (missing doesnt instakill your score), i might actually switch to lazer (for standard). missing reducing pp depending on difficulty ("density" in mania) sounds nice too.

  • @0ther6
    @0ther6 Месяц назад +2

    Is no one gonna talk about how osu!420 streamed for 30+ hour straight? If anyone was there during the stream, can you tell me if they took any breaks? To eat, nap, bath, bathroom break and just left their computer afk or smth or did they just stayed up streaming for 30+ hours than continue playing 4 hours later lmao.

  • @Jullitxx
    @Jullitxx Месяц назад +1

    i love the dog profile picture in the background gameplay leaderboard!

    • @krono9302
      @krono9302 Месяц назад

      It's Renard / one of lapfox's characters he/she made Because Maybe album and many others

    • @McSqueezy
      @McSqueezy Месяц назад

      :)

  • @Magnapinna4096
    @Magnapinna4096 Месяц назад

    oh my god i hope that pp reworks goes to ctb too because i am a nervous lil guy and keeps missing the easy part after hitting the most f'ed up pattern ever

  • @iiafa
    @iiafa Месяц назад +1

    Wow, second episode in one week?!?!? Crazy!

    • @sst3w
      @sst3w  Месяц назад +1

      I know right?

  • @ambassadorofbadtaste
    @ambassadorofbadtaste Месяц назад +4

    The pp rework feels like we're gonna see some pp inflation in the near future, I'm ngl

  • @zimHTML
    @zimHTML Месяц назад

    my man hit 20k🔥

  • @thecrazypudding1
    @thecrazypudding1 Месяц назад +8

    Osu doesnt know when you missed so in current build for combo rescalling it doesnt matter where you miss, as an example you have a map that has 2k combo you get 1.5k combo and miss at the diff spike, that score will be worth the same as a score with the same acc and miss count even if you missed at an easier point of the map. This should only happen in stable as in lazer I think that lazer knows when you missed.

    • @maxdragonsoul5553
      @maxdragonsoul5553 Месяц назад +3

      Yeah, the game basically looks at your score on a worst case scenario basis, but usually doesn't subtract a whole lot for missing in the middle. S ranks (with sliderbreaks) are going to become a lot more valuable since this new rework is going to punish low combo less and high misscount more.

    • @thecrazypudding1
      @thecrazypudding1 Месяц назад

      @@maxdragonsoul5553 Slider breaks will have the same penalty as misses. The rework will probably come out on lazer which at that point it will know when and where you missed/slider broke

  • @v1p_
    @v1p_ Месяц назад +1

    the basic idea is not to reward "hitting hard parts", but to reward low misscounts on long maps, on which 2 misses 1/3 and 2/3 in can leave you with only 30% of the fc pp

  • @juniekazuo6001
    @juniekazuo6001 Месяц назад

    Sst3w uploaded 2 videos in a week, what a time to be alive

  • @nequsikkkk
    @nequsikkkk Месяц назад +4

    rafis finally 1k pp lets go

  • @diggdador
    @diggdador Месяц назад +3

    Combo Scaling Removal is a really good change, but we still need a pp rebalance. Speed, Flow Aim and Length Bonus need a nerf, while Aim needs a buff

    • @aheriez
      @aheriez Месяц назад

      if that happens its so over for me

  • @rosewtf
    @rosewtf Месяц назад +1

    Finally shige got 1k!!!

  • @wildcard_chase4259
    @wildcard_chase4259 Месяц назад +40

    honestly zylice should've named dropped the people, hate or not we need to know cause the amount of BS that was thrown at HR is just something that should have never happened
    Edit: don't care if it spreads more hate cause if they're never revealed they get away with this with absolutely no consequences

    • @NoLogic.
      @NoLogic. Месяц назад +4

      But that would end up in him being called a snitch even more. I understand why he doesnt drop any names although they would deserve it to be exposed.

    • @wildcard_chase4259
      @wildcard_chase4259 Месяц назад +1

      @@NoLogic. it would be the right thing to do, all that does is protect the people who prayed on his downfall even more and it would accomplish nothing

    • @caduceiz2155
      @caduceiz2155 Месяц назад

      I believe some of these people that aren't exposed yet are American and Russian/Germany
      Idk, it's just my gut feeling telling me so, will not dropping any name here just to be safe and at the end make me look like a frickin idiot (already am)
      Pretty stupid and childish statement, but fk it

  • @qwertyec
    @qwertyec Месяц назад +21

    the combo scaling thing, damn that is gonna make me like 200k cuz i miss so many times.

    • @ganda5551
      @ganda5551 Месяц назад +5

      im 200k with only a handful of fcs, shit is boutta make me a double digit no cap

    • @qwertyec
      @qwertyec Месяц назад +1

      @@ganda5551 i have many chokes that are on the easiest parts of levels

    • @sonary897
      @sonary897 Месяц назад +5

      @@qwertyec This update aims to reduce the impact of chokes on easier sections when calculating pp, so you're good

    • @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
      @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal Месяц назад

      Now my Yume Chizu 99% 1 miss is going to be worth more than my 97% FC on it

  • @putrul6891
    @putrul6891 Месяц назад

    i have so many chokes this gonna give me a lot

  • @blackmocaccino
    @blackmocaccino Месяц назад

    the pp rework is pretty exciting, can't wait for it to be released

  • @minhperry
    @minhperry Месяц назад +3

    Daddy Rafis finally got a 1k

  • @SFADonuttunoD
    @SFADonuttunoD Месяц назад

    as a professional reverse choker this is great news

  • @frostygreat592
    @frostygreat592 Месяц назад

    Honestly, i agree with that one 6 six digits player with thousands of playtime... who pointed out that PP counted based on unstable rate and star rating. I feel like it works that way for Mania, CTB, and Taiko already... (even though long map meta still exists in Taiko) but not in STD. In STD, even if you have 99+% acc with 3 clean chokes with 1 miss count each, you still lost good chunks of PP. So enthusiastically, i'm looking forward for this rework.

  • @yesimarancia
    @yesimarancia Месяц назад

    yo wsg sorry for late

  • @SAITEKIKA
    @SAITEKIKA Месяц назад

    I think combo scaling rework is a good idea. The context of the strain of a map SHOULD be a factor when weighing how impressive a score is. It fucking sucks to be incredible, just to shitmiss on a bridge because you had to blink after the chorus. Also there are a lot of 1x SB score that come to mind, where an SB on an insignificant slider shouldn't be so punishing.

  • @Alajil
    @Alajil Месяц назад +1

    Maple juice hits hard

  • @miguel_noob6668
    @miguel_noob6668 Месяц назад +1

    this rework is so good ngl

  • @anonymousbanana204
    @anonymousbanana204 Месяц назад

    Where do you check these pp rework calculations

  • @xGameOG
    @xGameOG Месяц назад

    Two episodes in one week is criminal

  • @spanglish1740
    @spanglish1740 Месяц назад

    Crazy news

  • @ruffex4320
    @ruffex4320 Месяц назад

    is this pp rework sorta like the akatsuki pp system? more focus on less misses and better acc combo doesn't matter as much I believe

  • @B5sis
    @B5sis Месяц назад

    :( the combo scaling really killed me

  • @pokefan05
    @pokefan05 Месяц назад

    What were you using to see the new pp counts, and can I use it on my own account? (I just got my first 200pp play and I really hope it's staying that way)

  • @kvnxVII
    @kvnxVII Месяц назад

    i think the combo thingy is ok

  • @shmicksmack7187
    @shmicksmack7187 Месяц назад

    Is there a link to the website he used to check how the rework will effect players?

  • @tinyz7575
    @tinyz7575 Месяц назад

    As exciting as the rework is it would probably just give me the temporary lazer boost I got a month ago

  • @ImLazyfrfr
    @ImLazyfrfr Месяц назад

    The new pp reworks will provide a tangible benefit to not retry spam.

  • @uv1osu
    @uv1osu Месяц назад

    RAFIS AND SHIGE GETTING 1K 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @rizu9955
    @rizu9955 Месяц назад

    MY GOAT SHIGE WILL HAVE 1K PP PLAYS ON HIS PROFILE IM HAPPY

  • @Scoffings
    @Scoffings Месяц назад

    so all my chokes prior to the rework, will get the pp it deserved if i didnt choke after the rework is implemented right

  • @user-orange0328
    @user-orange0328 Месяц назад

    5:00 Where is Kamensh1k 1519pp on Save me?

  • @longgeii4307
    @longgeii4307 Месяц назад +1

    is it possible to swap drunkdeer keycaps with osu’s?

    • @sst3w
      @sst3w  Месяц назад +1

      Yes

  • @Lakuska2137
    @Lakuska2137 Месяц назад

    Rafis 1k noway, new era will start

  • @lostkostin
    @lostkostin Месяц назад

    Combo scaling rework:
    + Deranking is mostly impossible
    - Farming is way much easier

  • @ravinurul
    @ravinurul Месяц назад

    Prob the new rework will stop me from retrying after 1 random miss

  • @csfnoodle
    @csfnoodle Месяц назад +1

    so i cant type "combo game" anymore? ...okay

    • @sst3w
      @sst3w  Месяц назад

      :tf:

  • @isigo483
    @isigo483 28 дней назад

    Save me is gonna turn into the biggest farm map ever

  • @noah-qq9of
    @noah-qq9of Месяц назад

    Rework has to happen

  • @geoffreysmith3907
    @geoffreysmith3907 Месяц назад

    why did a beatmap nominator get a warning for nominating a beatmap?

  • @maddylemon1320
    @maddylemon1320 Месяц назад

    where can i see the pp rework?

  • @jesseschuberg1878
    @jesseschuberg1878 Месяц назад

    Damn, I'm going to get to 5 digits with this rework, I have 33 FCs in my 100 top plays lmao

  • @mitch2456
    @mitch2456 Месяц назад

    Zylice should get a 1 - 2 day restriction imo

  • @g4mingli
    @g4mingli Месяц назад

    Shige gaining a ranked 1k pp play after choking for years, finally

  • @Lofty_dot
    @Lofty_dot Месяц назад

    regarding pp rework, BTMC 1K DOABLE???

  • @hyfishboiboi2664
    @hyfishboiboi2664 Месяц назад +1

    When will we get the rework implemented tho

    • @sst3w
      @sst3w  Месяц назад

      We still dont know

  • @aisuiro.cellist
    @aisuiro.cellist Месяц назад

    SHIGE 1K?????

  • @dxxhpk
    @dxxhpk Месяц назад

    wait so bmc is gonna have 1k for jashin?

  • @Tat4xyz
    @Tat4xyz Месяц назад

    So when it gonna rework?

  • @SeamlessError
    @SeamlessError Месяц назад

    im boutta gain so much pp from this rework 😭😭i miss on air then hit the hardest part all the damn time.

  • @Dou2_
    @Dou2_ Месяц назад

    Im kinda live under a rock here. What happened with zylice and aryn?

  • @MayoNachi
    @MayoNachi Месяц назад

    does anyone have the rerwork calculator?

  • @SleepyDudu
    @SleepyDudu Месяц назад

    osu 420 account sharing maybe??

  • @umadbro4493
    @umadbro4493 Месяц назад

    LETS GO CHOCOMINT COMEBACK!

  • @Troybanzai
    @Troybanzai Месяц назад

    I get 216pp from the rework w

  • @koishisen
    @koishisen Месяц назад

    Whitecat can finally be happy now, mf just chokes on the easiest somehow, so i can expect him going upper

  • @biggestmrekkfan
    @biggestmrekkfan Месяц назад

    WAIT RAFIS AND COCOMINT HOLY FUCK

  • @senhornando2523
    @senhornando2523 Месяц назад

    shige 1k will be real?

  • @kruk0
    @kruk0 Месяц назад

    Soooo, basically i wont get punished as much for shit missing really easy part xD

  • @saltylemin
    @saltylemin Месяц назад

    I’m literally gaining 500pp from this rework. I don’t even want it.

  • @fekl0416
    @fekl0416 Месяц назад +2

    Will u ever promote kokisu again? :p

    • @sst3w
      @sst3w  Месяц назад +1

      Yes. Soon :p

    • @bajhi_
      @bajhi_ Месяц назад +1

      yipee

  • @Termizorrpl
    @Termizorrpl Месяц назад

    I have chokes on diff spike and chokes on slow parts, so overall this rework sucks lol it gives nothing

  • @papifernan3
    @papifernan3 Месяц назад

    que sinvergüenza esos tipos, acusando a alguien que es LEGAL y sin pruebas contundentes...

  • @Boxsnake
    @Boxsnake Месяц назад +7

    Zylice response still seems as save face, considering everything in this was done in bad faith trying to only prove their made-up minds that forum was cheating. Apologies are good and all, but it doesn't change the fact that he was being naive. It's a good lesson to learn though.

  • @kellenfoore5182
    @kellenfoore5182 Месяц назад

    Ayo, it's McSqueezy

  • @null-pxl
    @null-pxl Месяц назад

    Not gonna lie, rafis and shige getting 1k is deserved but that's definitely not a thing you expect to be broken just on a rework :C

  • @greyfog8718
    @greyfog8718 Месяц назад

    я не играл пару месяцев поэтому интересно этот реворк уже установлен или его просто показали?

    • @user-nr5ix2pw4j
      @user-nr5ix2pw4j Месяц назад

      он же не говорил что он уже появился, значит наверное нету его ещё

    • @greyfog8718
      @greyfog8718 Месяц назад

      я не дослушал наверное
      пасибо

  • @RareSushi
    @RareSushi Месяц назад

    So does this rework basically fix shit misses?

  • @_A23
    @_A23 Месяц назад

    i be losing 44pp in this new rework 😭😭

    • @alecmart9322
      @alecmart9322 Месяц назад

      Do u have the link to the website?

  • @Creepaminer
    @Creepaminer Месяц назад

    Is this when people finally start realizing osu420 is not really a real person

  • @bamboochopsticks4460
    @bamboochopsticks4460 Месяц назад

    One of osu!s biggest cons is combo game lol, so this is nice

  • @imsaturncat
    @imsaturncat Месяц назад

    whrp is the goat and no one is changing that

  • @mrquackalot553
    @mrquackalot553 Месяц назад

    PP Rework don't matter to me since I don't gain pp to begin with.

  • @PhntmFPS
    @PhntmFPS Месяц назад

    Im kinda new to the game and Im at 1200pp and Ill gain over 200pp from the rework lmaoo 💀

  • @givikap120
    @givikap120 Месяц назад

    Your combo scaling explanation is incorrect
    Pp system don't know where you missed
    It assumes that you missed on the hardest note of the map, and then punish you according to how big difficulty of the map without this note is, so more spikey maps are punished more
    The key meaning of this is that to get good pp you don't to need have high combo anymore (because it's removed, cap), you just need to get low amount of misses
    And all misses are valued the same, no matter the place where you missed on

  • @NoobBlx
    @NoobBlx Месяц назад +4

    shige 1.1k...

    • @sst3w
      @sst3w  Месяц назад +3

      Enough to make a grown man cry

  • @benjili458
    @benjili458 Месяц назад +5

    Time for speed players to step up and snipe some zylice #1 s

  • @biggestmrekkfan
    @biggestmrekkfan Месяц назад

    MY GOAT ZOOMER LETS GOOO (mrekk is my actual goat but im in nz so like zoomer is also my goat)