@@BBoldGaming You are Not Gatekeeping... But we who know know and keep ten toes down .. keeping our culture and truth. We do not mind them mimicking but you cannot assimilate and replace..
You have to understand matt hoffa is corribian If I'm not. Mistaken. They wanna be a part of the history of black people in America. Ll those people that come from other places? They won't feel like they played apart and would makes America what it is.
It is important to be aware that there are aggressive actions being taken with FBA. The claims being made involve intellectual property and inventions. There are individuals who are deeply passionate about this matter and offended by us providing evidence of the origins of hip-hop. If black Americans continue to be passive and allow others to take advantage of their contributions, they will be content with us only receiving the scraps. It is crucial not to allow others to dictate the narrative, keeping us complacent and struggling financially while they benefit from our creativity and resourcefulness.
Joe said 50/50 that’s lies wat was they doing before contact with FBA we was coming up with genres of music in the south thats almost like saying Mexicans on the west coast made hip hop 50/50 its all cap
You gotta be kidding me lol! Hiphop is the culture and Rap is the business. That being said you got everything all backwards. How old are you n where are you from to make this ignorant claim that Rap came first🤣🤣🤣
That’s not true we were rapping before hip hop was invented you have it backwards! If we show you the same dances the same rapping the same music just don’t have a name yet one of them came amongst us and put this name on what we were doing already and you think that it started then well the name wasn’t given until the early 80s so everything before then don’t count? I see that only applies to for a narrative facts are facts
I’m Guyanese wtf, I grew up hard sun queenz fuuck fat Joe, we all embrace black culture, I said one day I wanna be grandmaster flash, that’s call embrace smh, I wanna thank all my black family that grew up with style ❤️✊🏽❤️, breakin graffiti, mixing turntables, slang words, black folks always inventing, I learn how mix, and graffiti, no breaking, but I love the 80s in NYC, look up style wars, and wildstyle💯✊🏽
I’m PuertoRican I don’t listen to rap music am on withdrawl since the Jews became masters of the culture. As PuertoRican you are 💯WRONG about our slang lingo that’s disrespectful am only 50 yrs old from NJ and next to Philly we PuertoRican were heavy popping and pushing. Don’t play like we came from the caves. I stand on my own in the rap we were there not 50 but 5 stop the BS like we we’re not slick. I grew up around blacks along with ricans we slept in each other houses and ate in each other tables. I don’t care about hip hop crap or salsa etc. it’s toxic ran by demons. Jesus Christ is my King everything is trash and a waste of time. The Lord gave me a dream of a civil war and I woke up trembling and I believe we heading in that direction. 👑
SETI I have had a problem with others using this word for a while now. Even the kids in school say it. My daughter’s school was yelling it while jumping on little Black girls. It was so bad my daughter was getting into confrontations DAILY. When I told the principal how offensive it was she said, “well you know it’s just slang and y’all use it, it’s in y’all music and everything.” Like tf!!! Then she had the nerve to be a White lady with adopted Black kids😮 I was so mad I had to unenroll my child because they allow the non Black kids to do this with NO consequences. It’s sooo out of hand. But I don’t play that though. When I hear it I start using their derogatory word and they be appalled and then they be like, “ooh okay I got you, I apologize.” Because I don’t care. You wanna offend me??? Oh it’s on and cracking. I went it researched all they derogatory words even in their own language yup I sho did and quick to use. We can both play this game🤷🏾♀️😤 Most of these, not all but waaay too many have NO RESPECT for us because they be mad, they not like us🤦🏾♀️❤️🖤💙✊🏾
Black peoples put all those groups on to the game period especially in NYC! We looked at early Puerto Ricans like we look at a New Mexican family, we put them all on ,Jamaicans included! They had a language barrier that we helped them to bridge! Treated them like family cause they look like us. They came to our hood!
Joe is talking about how it was in the BX Hip hop was not created in the BX. It was created in NYC He's speaking from a BX prospective. Not a NYC prospective. That is where he is wrong. Y'all live on top of each other in the BX and that is why Joe feels that way put on hip hop started in New York City. Not the Bronx. And our origins of from the south.
Joe is wrong about a lot of things, and he is lying. He is making things up and refuses to accept the truth. He alienated Black Americans because he don’t respect us. They both him and madhoff mentioned everyone in the Black diaspora and discredited Black Americans.
And to the dude that's during the interview we need to check him too like they say he let him drill holes in the boat we are trying to cross the ocean with damn shame
They forget about black migration. most of all, BAs come from the South. The 1920s was the 1st wave, and 60/70s were the 2nd wave of black southern transplants. “Hip-hop” was financed and mainstream in the 1970s but “jungle music” was always around- its not a NY thing, y'all created a specific sound in rap just like Detroit, west coast, and NOLA have theirs.
Please, don't insinuate that FBA's tendency to embrace others, on FBA Women. We need unity. Also GOD gave both sexes FEELINGS &EMOTIONS. Great video otherwise.
Tether Tether ain't got nothing to do with creating or nothing else with Hip Hop B bop or nothing else or they wouldn't have Fleed. This is Yukub people.
This serves as a clear example of FBA's lack of documented factual evidence. It is evident that they often revert to historical references from the 1920s, 1940s, and earlier in an attempt to assert their claim of having 'created' Hip Hop. However, opinions do not hold weight in the realm of Hip Hop or any history research . It is important to clarify that FBA consistently seeks arguments to support their stance, despite the overwhelming historical evidence indicating that they were not the originators of any art forms within Hip Hop. Thus, their only recourse is to reference the 1940s, which fails to substantiate any claims regarding the true origins of Hip Hop. The reality is that FBA are contributors to the genre, not its creators-similar to the role of players in the NBA, where they are contributors rather than creators and originators of the itself
@@SLPGroundSoundMusic You said no facts backed by no evidence 😂 just a lot of projecting and tether babble. And 1920-1940 is evidence 🤦🏿♂️ are you like 10 years olds
I will ALWAYS respect everything that PR did and continue to do to help contribute and make this hip-hop things grow. But when you say started here is a Puerto Ricans that " started" well here is a PR brotha that says that it is just not true and he was there back then. Forget fba how can we debate this - m.ruclips.net/video/DsuGps_E3Mw/видео.html&pp=ygUdcHVlcnRvIHJpY2FucyBjcmVhdGVkIGhpcCBob3A%3D
I watched it..he aint speak about the FBA population. He spoke about the movement and its intentions...and called its leaders "broke". That was all. Its the same as pan africanism vs black nationalism argument.
Black people in the U.S. have typically gone through movements. The push is to name ourselves for the first time since the descriptors assigned on the U.S. Census after slavery. There is no leader, it's a lineage. Unfortunately, this message is getting lost with all of the unnecessary bickering and revisionist history.
Ok, lets go with that… Who is Fat Joe, a White Latino to speak on Black issues within our community and culture??? He is still outta pocket either way. Boundaries matter.
It's just another way to hate on the whole Latino people,the truth comes out,Fat Joe's comments was just another excuse to put us Latinos down.P.S it's mostly coming from Southern podcasts.
Lol do you know who FBA is? FBA is NOT an organization. It's another name for black Americans. Black ppl who are from America - black descendants of American slavery/fraudulent servitude. Therefore, he and you are both insulting a whole lineage. The same lineage that made Fat Joe rich. So, hopefully, the PR's will still keep him rich when his album drops. Bc it seems that now the FBA is done with him.
If y'all don't think Puerto Ricans are half black y'all need to do your research and see where that slave shift stopped there's a lot of dark skin Puerto Ricans
We understand that some have African in them but still most Puerto Ricans don’t identify as black we are on some black American shit everybody else can be proud about their lineage but it’s a problem when we celebrate ours
Yes, my cousins are Black PR, Joe is not Black and should not use the N word. Most Black Americans do not use that word outside of rap youth- I don't know anyone in my age group that does and he's older than me. He should know better he's in his 50s.
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FBA WE GATEKEEPING THE CULTURE AND WE AINT ALLOWING NO DISRESPECT…THEY CAN STAY MAD
We never have gate keeped anything... Everyone copies every sector of our swag… and we still haven't been paid from Congress
@@BBoldGaming You are Not Gatekeeping... But we who know know and keep ten toes down .. keeping our culture and truth. We do not mind them mimicking but you cannot assimilate and replace..
FBA holds no weight though..powerless..literally ...
@ saying black American hold no weight is crazy especially when everybody love copying us and mad about us saying we all ain’t the same
DISCO KING MARIO BORIQUA 1972
Pun spinning in his grave. You ain't NEVER heard HIM talking like that. Joe Crack owes his WHOLE CAREER to him anyway.
Great show, but there's no excuse for Math Hoffa not checking that. Sorry, that is some sellout shit.
You have to understand matt hoffa is corribian If I'm not.
Mistaken.
They wanna be a part of the history of black people in America.
Ll those people that come from other places? They won't feel like they played apart and would makes America what it is.
Why? because he not FBA so he enjoyed it.
THANK YOU MY BRO!!!!
That's because Math not American either,he's Haitan
He is not us he roots are from one of them islands
Take FBA out of hip hop and ask yourself is it 50/50
What is Hip-hop with Us ??? You cannot replace us ...
I think he was saying that if this guy say it’s 50/50 take us out and what’s left! Nothing
It is important to be aware that there are aggressive actions being taken with FBA. The claims being made involve intellectual property and inventions. There are individuals who are deeply passionate about this matter and offended by us providing evidence of the origins of hip-hop. If black Americans continue to be passive and allow others to take advantage of their contributions, they will be content with us only receiving the scraps. It is crucial not to allow others to dictate the narrative, keeping us complacent and struggling financially while they benefit from our creativity and resourcefulness.
Exactly. Finally, a brother that gets it.
Stop inviting out black cards and invites.... Grandma rules is laws.. dont bring them folks to my house... Period..
Fat Joe is full of schitt. All of this because we said Puerto Ricans weren't 50% of hip hop. SMFH
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Joe said 50/50 that’s lies wat was they doing before contact with FBA we was coming up with genres of music in the south thats almost like saying Mexicans on the west coast made hip hop 50/50 its all cap
I can’T brothers that stand with fat joe on that bull shhhhh
WTFU Blackman
Wake up 💯😡💯
Before hip hop it was Rap! And Rap was all Black. When the industry decided to take it away from FBA they changed the name to hip hop
You gotta be kidding me lol! Hiphop is the culture and Rap is the business. That being said you got everything all backwards. How old are you n where are you from to make this ignorant claim that Rap came first🤣🤣🤣
That’s not true we were rapping before hip hop was invented you have it backwards! If we show you the same dances the same rapping the same music just don’t have a name yet one of them came amongst us and put this name on what we were doing already and you think that it started then well the name wasn’t given until the early 80s so everything before then don’t count? I see that only applies to for a narrative facts are facts
Boundaries matter.
They can't take hip hop like they took jazz, blues, country and rock and roll.
We taking all that back Beyonce bout to drop another album
I’m Guyanese wtf, I grew up hard sun queenz fuuck fat Joe, we all embrace black culture, I said one day I wanna be grandmaster flash, that’s call embrace smh, I wanna thank all my black family that grew up with style ❤️✊🏽❤️, breakin graffiti, mixing turntables, slang words, black folks always inventing, I learn how mix, and graffiti, no breaking, but I love the 80s in NYC, look up style wars, and wildstyle💯✊🏽
BIG FACTS!!!! 💯
We were integrated in the Bronx too Joe grew around blacks
I’m PuertoRican I don’t listen to rap music am on withdrawl since the Jews became masters of the culture. As PuertoRican you are 💯WRONG about our slang lingo that’s disrespectful am only 50 yrs old from NJ and next to Philly we PuertoRican were heavy popping and pushing. Don’t play like we came from the caves. I stand on my own in the rap we were there not 50 but 5 stop the BS like we we’re not slick. I grew up around blacks along with ricans we slept in each other houses and ate in each other tables. I don’t care about hip hop crap or salsa etc. it’s toxic ran by demons. Jesus Christ is my King everything is trash and a waste of time. The Lord gave me a dream of a civil war and I woke up trembling and I believe we heading in that direction. 👑
SETI I have had a problem with others using this word for a while now. Even the kids in school say it. My daughter’s school was yelling it while jumping on little Black girls. It was so bad my daughter was getting into confrontations DAILY. When I told the principal how offensive it was she said, “well you know it’s just slang and y’all use it, it’s in y’all music and everything.” Like tf!!! Then she had the nerve to be a White lady with adopted Black kids😮 I was so mad I had to unenroll my child because they allow the non Black kids to do this with NO consequences. It’s sooo out of hand. But I don’t play that though. When I hear it I start using their derogatory word and they be appalled and then they be like, “ooh okay I got you, I apologize.” Because I don’t care. You wanna offend me??? Oh it’s on and cracking. I went it researched all they derogatory words even in their own language yup I sho did and quick to use. We can both play this game🤷🏾♀️😤 Most of these, not all but waaay too many have NO RESPECT for us because they be mad, they not like us🤦🏾♀️❤️🖤💙✊🏾
Black peoples put all those groups on to the game period especially in NYC! We looked at early Puerto Ricans like we look at a New Mexican family, we put them all on ,Jamaicans included! They had a language barrier that we helped them to bridge! Treated them like family cause they look like us. They came to our hood!
joe talks the most ....😂😂😂😂
Joe is talking about how it was in the BX
Hip hop was not created in the BX.
It was created in NYC
He's speaking from a BX prospective.
Not a NYC prospective.
That is where he is wrong.
Y'all live on top of each other in the BX and that is why Joe feels that way put on hip hop started in New York City. Not the Bronx.
And our origins of from the south.
Joe is wrong about a lot of things, and he is lying. He is making things up and refuses to accept the truth. He alienated Black Americans because he don’t respect us. They both him and madhoff mentioned everyone in the Black diaspora and discredited Black Americans.
And to the dude that's during the interview we need to check him too like they say he let him drill holes in the boat we are trying to cross the ocean with damn shame
He specifically said a group! Je didn't mean black Americans. He said look at their leader.
Good show, I was there from the beginning, Joe is a habitual liar, he wasn’t allowed in FBA spaces
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You brothers, sorry to say. you have no idea what you're talking about.😂 16:29
How you lnow what PR was saying when you country! And he said his baby sitters.
Because that was being said before he was a baby foh we have memories boy
Fat Joe was born before Hip Hop was created genius @@JayQuan007
Y'ALL ALLOW IT, SO WHY R U COMPLAINING!!!!!
Talk about it brother's
Some of them people are in microphone check saying the opposite
I think he mentioned only talking about the Bronx remember krs one queens bridge mc shan South Bronx
They forget about black migration. most of all, BAs come from the South. The 1920s was the 1st wave, and 60/70s were the 2nd wave of black southern transplants. “Hip-hop” was financed and mainstream in the 1970s but “jungle music” was always around- its not a NY thing, y'all created a specific sound in rap just like Detroit, west coast, and NOLA have theirs.
Please, don't insinuate that FBA's tendency to embrace others, on FBA Women. We need unity. Also GOD gave both sexes FEELINGS &EMOTIONS. Great video otherwise.
Doesn't matter nobody will crash out on this man... Awardscome around hugs and smiles lets stop
The cap
Fba did go after fat Joe hard for the comment of hip-hop 50/50 comment.
Tether Tether ain't got nothing to do with creating or nothing else with Hip Hop B bop or nothing else or they wouldn't have Fleed.
This is Yukub people.
I DIDNT HEAR 1 RACIST COMMENT
Yo. Joey. Getting paid. Thanks Joey. We like you. But. Totally CAPPING
Fat Joe is going Dimond next album. All the cancel BS can get lost !!!
Fat Joe is trash! How old is that guy??
These Cats. Talking. Came later THEY grew up in HIP HOP. They DON'T NO. The BEGINNING. Fat Joe and Buster. Crazy legs etc.
Fat Joe correct especially if u read comments
Fat Joe is a colonizer mad and we checking shit at the door
Stop all this nonsense, throwing mud on Fat Joe, watch Beat Street or Break Dance !! Focus on someone else !! Stop Hating On Fat Joe 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Facts
Go home hecto and julio
and just to name a few Puerto Rican Creators/Pioneers/and Contributors
Whipper Whip
Cool Cliff (Clifford Santiago) and
Schick (Daniel Rivera Jr.) - The Mean Machine,
Main One,
Powerule,
Tito (Fearless Four),
Johnny (Master Don and Def Committee),
Latin Empire,
Mysterme,
A-Butta (Natural Elements),
V.I.C. (producer),
Oktober,
Word-A-Mouth,
Hurricane G,
The Real Roxanne,
Prince Markie Dee (The Fat Boys),
K-7,
Oxx (Slee'stackz),
Frankie Cutlass,
Jaz B Latin,
PR Terrorist (Killarmy),
Son Doobie (Funkdoobiest)
Big Pun
Joell Ortiz
are of Puerto Rican descent via both parents.
Fat Joe
Peedi Crack,
Dres (Black Sheep),
Lloyd Banks,
Big Noyd,
Kurious,
Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie,
Kane and Abel,
Lateef (Latyrx),
Jim Jones,
Chino Xl
Nore
are all of Puerto Rican descent through one parent.
Big Lou,
Thirstin Howl III,
producers/djs/ engineers,Musicians like
DJ Julio (Steven Santiago)
Ivan "Doc Rodriguez,"
DJ Johnny Juice,
DJ Justo,
The Latin Rascals,
kenny dope gonzalez
DJ “Bobbito” García
DJ Tony Touch
DJ Enuff
Dj Charlie Chase
Dj Disco Wiz
Tex Dj Hollywood
Dj Mr.Magic
Tito Conga
Charlie Rock (Fearless Four Dj /Producer)
Swizz Beatz Puerto Rican / Jamaican
Breaking Creator / Pioneers and Contributors
Lein Figueroa - Spy (Crazy Commandos) The real Creator and Pioneers of Breaking or Bboy who is 100% Boricua...
Jojo
Baby Love (Daisy Castro),
Buck Four
(Gabriel Marcano),
Crazy Legs (Richard Colon),
Kuriaki (Lorenzo Soto)
Richard Colón Aka Crazy Legs (Creator/Pioneer)
Luis Roberto Martinez Jr AKA Alien Ness
Doug (Douglas Colon) pioneer
SalSoul’ and ‘Rockwell Association (Pioneers)
Mr. Wiggles (Rock Steady Crew/ Electric Boogaloos) (Creator/pioneer)
Wayne "Frosty Freeze" Frost (Creator /Pioneers)
Luis Angel Mateo aka Trac 2 Creator/Pioneer)
Adolfo “Shabba-Doo” Quiñones (Contributor)
GRAFFITI
1. JULIO 204 (67 to 70)
2. Lee Quiñones
3. Jean-Michel Basquiat (Puerto Rican / Haitian) and Most Valuable Graffiti Artist in the world
4. LA II (Angel Ortiz)
5. Al Diaz (first generation of graffiti writers in the community and for co-creating the graffiti campaign SAMO© with Jean-Michel Basquiat in 1978)
6. Rican 619
7. COCO 144
8. Cano 1
Lloyd bank’s isn’t Puerto Rican or Jim jones. They might have a parent that’s Puerto Rican . But they aren’t from Canada Puerto Rican culture
This serves as a clear example of FBA's lack of documented factual evidence. It is evident that they often revert to historical references from the 1920s, 1940s, and earlier in an attempt to assert their claim of having 'created' Hip Hop. However, opinions do not hold weight in the realm of Hip Hop or any history research . It is important to clarify that FBA consistently seeks arguments to support their stance, despite the overwhelming historical evidence indicating that they were not the originators of any art forms within Hip Hop. Thus, their only recourse is to reference the 1940s, which fails to substantiate any claims regarding the true origins of Hip Hop. The reality is that FBA are contributors to the genre, not its creators-similar to the role of players in the NBA, where they are contributors rather than creators and originators of the itself
If we didn't create it, why wasn't Latino music, or Caribbean music, hip hop has nothing but black music. So your capping,I am from Queens.
@GrantRedman-f6x 🤔is that supposed to be facts ?
@@SLPGroundSoundMusic
You said no facts backed by no evidence 😂 just a lot of projecting and tether babble. And 1920-1940 is evidence 🤦🏿♂️ are you like 10 years olds
Refute the claims that hip hop wasn’t created by black Americans with actual facts. You said nothing in your statement, you seem be going in circles.
I will ALWAYS respect everything that PR did and continue to do to help contribute and make this hip-hop things grow. But when you say started here is a Puerto Ricans that " started" well here is a PR brotha that says that it is just not true and he was there back then. Forget fba how can we debate this -
m.ruclips.net/video/DsuGps_E3Mw/видео.html&pp=ygUdcHVlcnRvIHJpY2FucyBjcmVhdGVkIGhpcCBob3A%3D
What was "racist"
Somebody's not black saying the word n@gga!
I watched it..he aint speak about the FBA population. He spoke about the movement and its intentions...and called its leaders "broke". That was all. Its the same as pan africanism vs black nationalism argument.
There is no "movement" or "intentions" and there are no "leaders." FBA= Black American.
Black people in the U.S. have typically gone through movements. The push is to name ourselves for the first time since the descriptors assigned on the U.S. Census after slavery. There is no leader, it's a lineage. Unfortunately, this message is getting lost with all of the unnecessary bickering and revisionist history.
Ok, lets go with that…
Who is Fat Joe, a White Latino to speak on Black issues within our community and culture???
He is still outta pocket either way.
Boundaries matter.
It's just another way to hate on the whole Latino people,the truth comes out,Fat Joe's comments was just another excuse to put us Latinos down.P.S it's mostly coming from Southern podcasts.
Da South don't get down like that we believe if u black u black
This FBA group is whack just like this podcast.
Foundational Black American is an ethnic group honey. A lineage of Black people in the United States who are direct descendants of the enslaved.
Calling black Americans wack is crazy lol
Lol do you know who FBA is? FBA is NOT an organization. It's another name for black Americans. Black ppl who are from America - black descendants of American slavery/fraudulent servitude. Therefore, he and you are both insulting a whole lineage. The same lineage that made Fat Joe rich. So, hopefully, the PR's will still keep him rich when his album drops. Bc it seems that now the FBA is done with him.
There you go. HE DID NOT SAY BLACK AMERICANS!!!! Smh@@TripMakeitknocc
Your momma's mouth game is whack @TripMakeitknocc
Plzzzz DISCO KING MARIO
100% BORIQUA 1972.....STOP PLAYING DO YOUR RESEARCH
If y'all don't think Puerto Ricans are half black y'all need to do your research and see where that slave shift stopped there's a lot of dark skin Puerto Ricans
We understand that some have African in them but still most Puerto Ricans don’t identify as black we are on some black American shit everybody else can be proud about their lineage but it’s a problem when we celebrate ours
Yes, my cousins are Black PR, Joe is not Black and should not use the N word. Most Black Americans do not use that word outside of rap youth- I don't know anyone in my age group that does and he's older than me. He should know better he's in his 50s.
How you lnow what PR was saying when you country! And he said his baby sitters.
Exactly, they're all over the place with lies