Daniel Hemric got his very first career win in the Xfinity Series Championship. Dude raced in all 3 top series and never could win til this year and it happened to be in the Champ 4
you’ve missed a lot in recent NASCAR! would highly recommend checking out the stuff from Talladega a couple of weeks ago, as well as the highlights/radioactives for both Bristol a while back, as well as the Roval last week, for the ongoing Kevin Harvick/Chase Elliott feud, in which Harvick’s attempt to end Chase’s playoff run massively backfired 😳
What the guy in the video leaves out about the ratings is the fact that that damage was actually done during NASCARs time on ESPN, this has been proven multiple times, if he was a hardcore fan like he states he would know this. A sport isn't going to do good when the TV channel that has a contract to air it is actively telling pepole not to watch it and belittle the sport, and it's fans, as well as start making the false negative stereotypes about it's fans. NASCAR is still recovering from this and all because it had become more popular than ESPNs beloved NFL, a large chunk of the pepole where explayers because if you last more than 10 years in the NFL you are lucky otherwise you hope for a job in the media.
12:10 to be fair, Kyle only raced half the season and still had the most wins that year. He had 5 wins in about half a season and missed some of his best tracks earlier in the year. He could of probably gotten 10 wins.
Actually, that's not true. Joey Logano got the most wins with 6. 3 of them came consecutively at Charlotte, Kansas, and Talladega. He likely could've had 4 in a row and 7 for the year had he not been wrecked by Kenneth at Martinsville. It should also be noted that Logano dominated the 2015 Ford Ecoboost 400 leading the most laps. Kyle's drive back was impressive, but where the legitimacy of his championship comes into question is missing a third of the year almost. That's a large portion of the year to be missing to compete for a championship. It'd be like if the Boston Red Sox missed 54 games and was still able to compete against the teams that completed for the entire 162 game season. Or if the New York Jets missed 5-6 games of the NFL season of 17. Also, one could make an argument that Kyle was able to have that drive BECAUSE of his return from injury. He seemed to have wised up after his return, and seemed to race like a whole new racecar driver. It actually takes a pretty bold claim that Kyle would've still had that same drive towards the championship had he not been injured. The season I question the legitimacy of the champion crowned, though, was Jimmie Johnson's 2016 championship. He broke the record for the worst average finish of a championship season. And the fact he got the most wins is kind of misleading, too. At least half of the Playoffs field was consisted of drivers who got 3-4 wins, and Johnson was one of them going into Homestead.
I always wonder what would happen if.....let's say they are in the round of 8, but by some freak event the guy who was 9th in points wins every final race and 1st-8th in points all get involved in crashes or have mechanical failures for the rest of the races in the season.
Whoever is ninth would probably get enough points to finish fifth (since the four drivers eliminated before the finale revert to points earned since race 26). It won't change the championship, but it would make NASCAR look bad. If the 2014 format had been used in 2008, we'd have seen a similar situation play out: Carl Edwards would have been eliminated in the round of 12 after wrecking at Talladega and having mechanical issues at Charlotte. Then he won three of the last four races, including the finale. While Kevin Harvick would win the championship with zero wins.
I have loved Nascar since I was a little kid (I'm 30 now) and I hate the playoffs. In old Nascar, Points were awarded based on finishing position. (Let's say the winner gets 180 points, 2nd place gets 170, 3rd place gets 165, and someone who finishes last would get like 30 points. And anyone who led a lap in the race would get 5 bonus points, and whoever led the most laps would get an additional 5 bonus points. At the end of the 36 race season, whoever had the most points won the championship. But Nascar didn't like that, because sometimes a driver would be the mathematical champion with like 2 or 3 races remaining. So they made it to where wins mean the most, and rounds of playoffs make it to where you pretty much can't have a bad race and must win. I just don't like it. With that said, I like Kyle Larson, and he's in a great position to win the championship. Just needs to dominate at Phoenix.
I don’t mind the playoffs, but nascar needs to fix that last race. The playoffs aren’t that unfair because most of the time the top 4 drivers at the end are in the top 4-6 drivers of the entire season. But, this one last race to decide it all is kind of stupid, which had drivers like chase Elliott and Joey logano who both definitely were not in the top 2 or 3 drivers that year.
This is a good take. My biggest problem with the playoffs isn't the format itself, I'm fine with the bracket style they're going for, but they need to at least get rid of the playoff points. I still have no clue what they do or why they matter, other than I guess some sort of insurance/cushion to fall back on? If they get rid of playoff points and "win and you're in" then it'll be great imo, or just keep win and you're in for just in the playoffs to move to the next round. Maybe even add a sort of wildcard race as the first race to get rid of the "fake" or "lucky" winners like Michael McDowell. Nothing against Michael personally, but it just makes more sense to get rid of a couple guys right away instead of waste 3 races to do that.
@@deadstickgaming3665 playoff points mean that basically the more races and stages that you win, the most points you will have at the start of each round. This ensures that good teams actually try hard each regular season race. For example, this year Kyle Larson was able to be over 20 points above the cut line after having a terrible finish at the previous talladega race, all because of how many races and stages he won in the regular season.
Here's a great racing (predominantly NASCAR) channel to react to, Black Flags Matter.... The video to introduce you to is "The Most Wanted Man In Motorsports"
Interesting! I have never been interested in people driving in circles for hours. This made me get a more understanding of the sport but I still don’t give a sh*t. lol
Yeah I just watched the hour long supercut video and came here just to suggest it too. It's fantastic, right up there with the Three Before February video. Would love to see a reaction to that too
My favorite driver is still in the playoffs (Blaney), but I think Larson is just too dominant this season. Anything can happen in that last race, but I really see Larson walking away with it.
It's funny because playoffs were made because Matt Kenseth in 2003 won the championship with only one year Now in 2021 Hemric can win it with ZERO wins lol
First, Larson will win the title this year. As a young nascar fan I am able to understand the playoffs and don’t mind too much but it’s got it’s flaws. Technically nascar does have that points system where a winner gets 40 points, second 39 etc. That’s what sets the playoff field for those who don’t win and during each round those points advance you through there
@@TheBeesleys99 the other thing is many folks say the playoffs make titles easier. If that’s the case why isn’t jeff Gordon a 7 time champ, why aren’t edwards or dale jr champs. Simple, jimmie had a better understanding of the system and worked it out to perfection. I’m some ways yeah it’s easier than petty and dale sr championships yeah but In others it’s way harder because Gordon was one of the few drivers to beat sr straight up and jimmie just whooped him
@@josephharrison5639Gordon excelled in hot weather, more than any driver I've ever seen. When the weather cooled off, so did he. Long before the Chase came around, he was notably lousy in October and November. Johnson had the opposite problem: He was way better in the cooler months. That naturally led to him doing better with a playoff system than he would have done without it.
@@josephharrison5639Well Jeff had Alan later in his career while Jimmie and Chad were together for all but i think 2 or 3 years of Jimmies career. Chad was a better innovator, i mean there is video evidence of Chad telling Jimmie if he wins he has to crack the rear end.
I think my brain has melted. Slapshoes makes great racing content. I would recommend looking up Josh Revell's videos on Danica Patrick and the WTF happened to the Andrea Moda team (the worst F1 team.... ever?) Keep up the great work sir! ❤️
Hey! It's the only video he made I completely and almost totally disagreed with! I'd love the playoffs, if the round of 8 was a Chase. But it is WAY better than the old points system. Win and you're win is great. You're not gonna have 16 winners, you're gonna have like 10. And most of those are gonna be the guys who would already be there. Cinderella stories almost NEVER happen. But in the VERY rare cases they do, it's awesome, and everyone should have planned for it because everyone knows it happens. Wins ALWAYS matter. They never STOP mattering. Who advances in rounds is fairly commonly decided by one or two points, one or two points that you'd have with another win. So everyone wants to win. And it's always close enough that the only way someone doesn't try to win is if they got a win in that particular round, and that round is specifically the round of 8, AND they are specifically doing it for their team. And of course, points matter even more. You need to be X places above the cut line to be safe, where X is the total number of races in the season/in that round. As for "playing it safe", yeah right. No worse than it was before. Drivers are almost always racing for every point they can get (see previous reasons) including position. Sometimes someone may pull back to play it safe...... exactly like they did before when they were in a safe spot on points. The playoffs didn't introduce more safe race-minded competitors, it reduced them. It's just a lot easier to see happening when they're doing it because of a win and not some arbitrarily higher number they decided on. Stage racing is kinda a different subject, but in how it relates to playoffs, it's great. The top 10 during the basically the first 1/3 and 2/3 of the race get a small handful of points, and the winner gets a bonus point that carries them in the playoffs. So running good during the race matters now, instead of just running good when the checkered flag flies. You can get wrecked out of a race on the final lap, but now instead of getting nothing you get up to 20 points because you were running good all race. BTW, forgive me for saying: if someone can be bedridden with a destroyed leg, miss half the races (and get 0 points for half the season), then in 10 races win so much he gets in the top 25 (FROM ZERO), then win so damn much he beats everyone else, he deserves a championship. And no, the old system wasn't easier to track. It was much harder. Because you had stuff like most laps led to track, at times actively across multiple drivers DURING EVERY LAP. AND IT DECIDED CHAMPIONSHIPS.
I'm on the same boat as you honestly. I actually find myself disagreeing with slapshoes a LOT. I understand his points and he provides good evidence, but as you just proved, to all of his points, there's a "yeah but..." that's just as strong.
Totally agree. Before you didn't NEED a win to be champ but now it's very hard if you don't have a win. Before, other than being able to say you won at a track, there was ZERO insensitive for teams to try and win races. Why try if all you have to do is be safe and finish 10th every race and boom you just might be champ.
I wish they would get rid of it it takes away the prestige of the championship because with the playoffs or at least the current format someone who would’ve been like 20th in normal points could win 1 race and have a couple good race and win the championship over someone who could’ve won every race of the year except 1 by just finishing ahead of that driver
no matter what system you use it will not matter, you will always have the same shit results, if you take that point system and put it into NASCAR, then 2/3 of the way through the season you know who is the winner and then EVERYONE just coasts through the rest of the season.
The "Chase" is the stupidest decision Nascar ever made. You could technically win the first 35 races and still go into the last race tied in points with three other drivers.
I don't know If you can agreed with this, but how about a modern points format, like the top 30 in the end of the race get the points from their position. You can make your own.
I honestly disagree with Mr. Slapshoes on a lot of his videos. He's a very good presenter and a strong debater, but to basically all of points there is a "yeah, but..." or it's just off of opinion. First up, let's be honest, looking at it critically, it is tv's own fault for the ratings seeming to go down which I'm surprised Slapshoes didn't touch on that fact. They push the importance of winning to make it to the playoffs, and every time someone with a win is up front, they go "oh well he doesn't have to push too hard he already has a win so he doesn't need to risk it. He won't race for the win against this guy" when, while that may or may not be true on the points board, fans don't want to hear that. NASCAR has a 100% rule, requiring drivers to race at 100% of their ability and with the tv making it sound like the drivers who won are just out for a Sunday cruise and not trying to win, it makes people become uninterested in the race. It's especially angering when you know that those guys are out there racing for a check. They're not worried about the playoffs and playing it safe in race 12 like the announcers constantly try to make it seem, they're competitors and they are there to win, but the announcers, in trying to make it sound exciting, actually end up potentially ruining the fun for more casual fans. Imagine you're watching a football game on Sunday afternoon, it's 35-38 with 8 minutes left and there's a commercial so you're flipping through and you get to a NASCAR race, say "oh okay I'll check this out" and they're zoomed in on a car all alone, 8 seconds behind the leader and the announcers go "He already won a race so he's fine, he doesn't need to win. He's fine where he's at." Do you think that team losing the football game is okay losing because they already won a game this season? Of course not! I think the playoffs are a good idea, at least the general elimination style they have now. Take almost any major American pro sport, hockey, baseball, basketball, their playoffs are basically a mirror image of NASCAR's playoff format. Nobody complains about those playoffs. You have a long regular season, a select # of the best teams make it into the playoffs, and they play a series of games to decide who gets to move on to the next round. It's not like American football how if you have one fluke game, your qb gets sick the day before or something, and you go from #1 ranked to eliminated, everyone has an equal shot, even if it's not a good shot. Through a series like MLB, NBA, NHL, the best of the best has multiple chances to prove themselves worthy to move on. One change I would legitimately like to see made if they keep the current format is actually kind of close to what he presented. Keep the same points system they have now, keep the stages in the race, but scrap the stage points and like Slap said, just do like F1 and give a point to the fastest lap, and maybe some other things. NASCAR is a lot closer than F1 so if you pit for fresh tires with 3 to go, you'll likely end up a lap down and losing more positions than that point makes up, but it could still spice up some competition further back in the field. Or just scrap the playoff points, I still have no idea what they do other than confuse me. If they're looking to completely revamp the playoffs, here's my suggestion: Make it even more like other sports and have a *wildcard race* at the start. Keep the 10 race playoffs, but with 12/14 drivers, and wins don't lock you in, except for the drivers with the most wins, and most laps led, get a lock. The first playoff race is the wildcard race, 2/4 drivers get eliminated to weed out those "lucky" wins or guys who juuuust squeaked in, and some bad luck can also screw you over. For the next round, you eliminate drivers out of the playoffs 1 race at a time for 5 races. This sets up your final 4 races which will have the best 5 drivers remaining to fight it out for essentially the best average finish in the last 4 races. Maybe even switch the schedule up to have a road course, a super speedway, a 1.5/1 mile, and a short track(in any order) to make up the final 4 races to prove the best overall driver at every track. I know it's definitely not flawless, there are always flaws in any system, but I just really like the idea of a wildcard race and this method could put more of an influence on performance throughout the season and get rid of the "win and you're in" and the stage points which are my 2 least favorite parts of the current system. Plus, knowing someone will be eliminated each and every race, you will see drivers putting on their best performance every single race and would also help people to tune in every week.
NASCAR is the WWE of Auto Racing. It's fun when it's good, but very few of the races or champions can be considered legitimate with all of the contrived rules and formats put in place like stage racing and the playoffs. It feels fake, but that's not always a bad thing if the on track action is fun to watch. You just can't take it as seriously as something like Indycar or F1.
I am Pulling for Kyle Busch then Denny Hamlin and Martin Truex JR. I want Joe Gibbs Teams to Win since I am a Lifelong Washington Fan. Coach Gibbs is a Great Coach and Leader. I miss the Old Nascar. I loved the old Formula of Points for Leading a Lap points for Leading the Most Laps and 43 points for a Win down to 1 point in a 43 Car Field. The Champion had to accumilate the Most Points over a Season. It rewarded Consistency.
Kyle Larson will probably win the championship, but I’m rooting for Ryan Blaney since my favorite driver Kurt Busch is out
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Daniel Hemric got his very first career win in the Xfinity Series Championship. Dude raced in all 3 top series and never could win til this year and it happened to be in the Champ 4
you’ve missed a lot in recent NASCAR! would highly recommend checking out the stuff from Talladega a couple of weeks ago, as well as the highlights/radioactives for both Bristol a while back, as well as the Roval last week, for the ongoing Kevin Harvick/Chase Elliott feud, in which Harvick’s attempt to end Chase’s playoff run massively backfired 😳
What the guy in the video leaves out about the ratings is the fact that that damage was actually done during NASCARs time on ESPN, this has been proven multiple times, if he was a hardcore fan like he states he would know this. A sport isn't going to do good when the TV channel that has a contract to air it is actively telling pepole not to watch it and belittle the sport, and it's fans, as well as start making the false negative stereotypes about it's fans. NASCAR is still recovering from this and all because it had become more popular than ESPNs beloved NFL, a large chunk of the pepole where explayers because if you last more than 10 years in the NFL you are lucky otherwise you hope for a job in the media.
12:10 to be fair, Kyle only raced half the season and still had the most wins that year. He had 5 wins in about half a season and missed some of his best tracks earlier in the year. He could of probably gotten 10 wins.
Actually, that's not true. Joey Logano got the most wins with 6. 3 of them came consecutively at Charlotte, Kansas, and Talladega. He likely could've had 4 in a row and 7 for the year had he not been wrecked by Kenneth at Martinsville. It should also be noted that Logano dominated the 2015 Ford Ecoboost 400 leading the most laps.
Kyle's drive back was impressive, but where the legitimacy of his championship comes into question is missing a third of the year almost. That's a large portion of the year to be missing to compete for a championship. It'd be like if the Boston Red Sox missed 54 games and was still able to compete against the teams that completed for the entire 162 game season. Or if the New York Jets missed 5-6 games of the NFL season of 17.
Also, one could make an argument that Kyle was able to have that drive BECAUSE of his return from injury. He seemed to have wised up after his return, and seemed to race like a whole new racecar driver. It actually takes a pretty bold claim that Kyle would've still had that same drive towards the championship had he not been injured.
The season I question the legitimacy of the champion crowned, though, was Jimmie Johnson's 2016 championship. He broke the record for the worst average finish of a championship season. And the fact he got the most wins is kind of misleading, too. At least half of the Playoffs field was consisted of drivers who got 3-4 wins, and Johnson was one of them going into Homestead.
I always wonder what would happen if.....let's say they are in the round of 8, but by some freak event the guy who was 9th in points wins every final race and 1st-8th in points all get involved in crashes or have mechanical failures for the rest of the races in the season.
Whoever is ninth would probably get enough points to finish fifth (since the four drivers eliminated before the finale revert to points earned since race 26). It won't change the championship, but it would make NASCAR look bad. If the 2014 format had been used in 2008, we'd have seen a similar situation play out: Carl Edwards would have been eliminated in the round of 12 after wrecking at Talladega and having mechanical issues at Charlotte. Then he won three of the last four races, including the finale. While Kevin Harvick would win the championship with zero wins.
I like the NASCAR playoffs so it really just depends on what you like. Some people like it some don't.
You didn’t watch the video.
I have loved Nascar since I was a little kid (I'm 30 now) and I hate the playoffs. In old Nascar, Points were awarded based on finishing position. (Let's say the winner gets 180 points, 2nd place gets 170, 3rd place gets 165, and someone who finishes last would get like 30 points. And anyone who led a lap in the race would get 5 bonus points, and whoever led the most laps would get an additional 5 bonus points. At the end of the 36 race season, whoever had the most points won the championship. But Nascar didn't like that, because sometimes a driver would be the mathematical champion with like 2 or 3 races remaining. So they made it to where wins mean the most, and rounds of playoffs make it to where you pretty much can't have a bad race and must win. I just don't like it.
With that said, I like Kyle Larson, and he's in a great position to win the championship. Just needs to dominate at Phoenix.
I don’t mind the playoffs, but nascar needs to fix that last race. The playoffs aren’t that unfair because most of the time the top 4 drivers at the end are in the top 4-6 drivers of the entire season. But, this one last race to decide it all is kind of stupid, which had drivers like chase Elliott and Joey logano who both definitely were not in the top 2 or 3 drivers that year.
This is a good take. My biggest problem with the playoffs isn't the format itself, I'm fine with the bracket style they're going for, but they need to at least get rid of the playoff points. I still have no clue what they do or why they matter, other than I guess some sort of insurance/cushion to fall back on? If they get rid of playoff points and "win and you're in" then it'll be great imo, or just keep win and you're in for just in the playoffs to move to the next round. Maybe even add a sort of wildcard race as the first race to get rid of the "fake" or "lucky" winners like Michael McDowell. Nothing against Michael personally, but it just makes more sense to get rid of a couple guys right away instead of waste 3 races to do that.
@@deadstickgaming3665 if you get rid of the playoff points you remove incentive for teams to actually try at every race.
@@deadstickgaming3665 playoff points mean that basically the more races and stages that you win, the most points you will have at the start of each round. This ensures that good teams actually try hard each regular season race. For example, this year Kyle Larson was able to be over 20 points above the cut line after having a terrible finish at the previous talladega race, all because of how many races and stages he won in the regular season.
Here's a great racing (predominantly NASCAR) channel to react to, Black Flags Matter....
The video to introduce you to is "The Most Wanted Man In Motorsports"
Yes. The playoffs ruined nascar. And the sanctioning body is never gonna get rid of them so now we are stuck with them.
Yep the NASCAR playoffs are complete bs. If Larson doesn't win it this year it'll be a travesty
go back to points system
Interesting! I have never been interested in people driving in circles for hours. This made me get a more understanding of the sport but I still don’t give a sh*t. lol
yeah current nascar playoffs are basically related to the Sweet 16, starts with 16 ends with 4, side note LARSON IS TAKING IT ALL THE WAY
without the Playoff format Kyle Larson and Denny Hamlin would be TIED in points right now, with only 3 races left
Young Money Kyle Larson
Larson or Hamlin SHOULD win
you should watch the mark martin apologetics tour he mentioned
Yeah I just watched the hour long supercut video and came here just to suggest it too. It's fantastic, right up there with the Three Before February video. Would love to see a reaction to that too
My favorite driver is still in the playoffs (Blaney), but I think Larson is just too dominant this season. Anything can happen in that last race, but I really see Larson walking away with it.
It's funny because playoffs were made because Matt Kenseth in 2003 won the championship with only one year
Now in 2021 Hemric can win it with ZERO wins lol
Well he did win
Technically, that's not true, because his win in the championship race was literally his first career win.
@@nascarfanatic2425 Crafton 2019 nuff said (I know I’m a year late)
@@masoneveridge4078 Yes, but I was just addressing Hemric specifically.
@@nascarfanatic2425 should have removed the @ tbh
First, Larson will win the title this year. As a young nascar fan I am able to understand the playoffs and don’t mind too much but it’s got it’s flaws. Technically nascar does have that points system where a winner gets 40 points, second 39 etc. That’s what sets the playoff field for those who don’t win and during each round those points advance you through there
Yeah i guess fully understanding it and not experiencing it previously makes a difference :D
@@TheBeesleys99 the other thing is many folks say the playoffs make titles easier. If that’s the case why isn’t jeff Gordon a 7 time champ, why aren’t edwards or dale jr champs. Simple, jimmie had a better understanding of the system and worked it out to perfection. I’m some ways yeah it’s easier than petty and dale sr championships yeah but In others it’s way harder because Gordon was one of the few drivers to beat sr straight up and jimmie just whooped him
@@josephharrison5639Gordon excelled in hot weather, more than any driver I've ever seen. When the weather cooled off, so did he. Long before the Chase came around, he was notably lousy in October and November. Johnson had the opposite problem: He was way better in the cooler months. That naturally led to him doing better with a playoff system than he would have done without it.
@@josephharrison5639Well Jeff had Alan later in his career while Jimmie and Chad were together for all but i think 2 or 3 years of Jimmies career. Chad was a better innovator, i mean there is video evidence of Chad telling Jimmie if he wins he has to crack the rear end.
You can win 33 out of 36 races, suck in the last round and be out for the championship run
I think my brain has melted.
Slapshoes makes great racing content.
I would recommend looking up Josh Revell's videos on Danica Patrick and the WTF happened to the Andrea Moda team (the worst F1 team.... ever?)
Keep up the great work sir! ❤️
Hey! It's the only video he made I completely and almost totally disagreed with!
I'd love the playoffs, if the round of 8 was a Chase. But it is WAY better than the old points system.
Win and you're win is great. You're not gonna have 16 winners, you're gonna have like 10. And most of those are gonna be the guys who would already be there. Cinderella stories almost NEVER happen. But in the VERY rare cases they do, it's awesome, and everyone should have planned for it because everyone knows it happens.
Wins ALWAYS matter. They never STOP mattering. Who advances in rounds is fairly commonly decided by one or two points, one or two points that you'd have with another win. So everyone wants to win. And it's always close enough that the only way someone doesn't try to win is if they got a win in that particular round, and that round is specifically the round of 8, AND they are specifically doing it for their team.
And of course, points matter even more. You need to be X places above the cut line to be safe, where X is the total number of races in the season/in that round.
As for "playing it safe", yeah right. No worse than it was before. Drivers are almost always racing for every point they can get (see previous reasons) including position. Sometimes someone may pull back to play it safe...... exactly like they did before when they were in a safe spot on points. The playoffs didn't introduce more safe race-minded competitors, it reduced them. It's just a lot easier to see happening when they're doing it because of a win and not some arbitrarily higher number they decided on.
Stage racing is kinda a different subject, but in how it relates to playoffs, it's great. The top 10 during the basically the first 1/3 and 2/3 of the race get a small handful of points, and the winner gets a bonus point that carries them in the playoffs. So running good during the race matters now, instead of just running good when the checkered flag flies. You can get wrecked out of a race on the final lap, but now instead of getting nothing you get up to 20 points because you were running good all race.
BTW, forgive me for saying: if someone can be bedridden with a destroyed leg, miss half the races (and get 0 points for half the season), then in 10 races win so much he gets in the top 25 (FROM ZERO), then win so damn much he beats everyone else, he deserves a championship.
And no, the old system wasn't easier to track. It was much harder. Because you had stuff like most laps led to track, at times actively across multiple drivers DURING EVERY LAP. AND IT DECIDED CHAMPIONSHIPS.
I'm on the same boat as you honestly. I actually find myself disagreeing with slapshoes a LOT. I understand his points and he provides good evidence, but as you just proved, to all of his points, there's a "yeah but..." that's just as strong.
Totally agree. Before you didn't NEED a win to be champ but now it's very hard if you don't have a win.
Before, other than being able to say you won at a track, there was ZERO insensitive for teams to try and win races. Why try if all you have to do is be safe and finish 10th every race and boom you just might be champ.
Let’s go Brandon.
I wish they would get rid of it it takes away the prestige of the championship because with the playoffs or at least the current format someone who would’ve been like 20th in normal points could win 1 race and have a couple good race and win the championship over someone who could’ve won every race of the year except 1 by just finishing ahead of that driver
I think the double points thing only happened in 2014 for f1
no matter what system you use it will not matter, you will always have the same shit results, if you take that point system and put it into NASCAR, then 2/3 of the way through the season you know who is the winner and then EVERYONE just coasts through the rest of the season.
Are you going to react to anymore motorsports videos in the near future?
The "Chase" is the stupidest decision Nascar ever made. You could technically win the first 35 races and still go into the last race tied in points with three other drivers.
I don't know If you can agreed with this, but how about a modern points format, like the top 30 in the end of the race get the points from their position. You can make your own.
I honestly disagree with Mr. Slapshoes on a lot of his videos. He's a very good presenter and a strong debater, but to basically all of points there is a "yeah, but..." or it's just off of opinion.
First up, let's be honest, looking at it critically, it is tv's own fault for the ratings seeming to go down which I'm surprised Slapshoes didn't touch on that fact. They push the importance of winning to make it to the playoffs, and every time someone with a win is up front, they go "oh well he doesn't have to push too hard he already has a win so he doesn't need to risk it. He won't race for the win against this guy" when, while that may or may not be true on the points board, fans don't want to hear that. NASCAR has a 100% rule, requiring drivers to race at 100% of their ability and with the tv making it sound like the drivers who won are just out for a Sunday cruise and not trying to win, it makes people become uninterested in the race. It's especially angering when you know that those guys are out there racing for a check. They're not worried about the playoffs and playing it safe in race 12 like the announcers constantly try to make it seem, they're competitors and they are there to win, but the announcers, in trying to make it sound exciting, actually end up potentially ruining the fun for more casual fans. Imagine you're watching a football game on Sunday afternoon, it's 35-38 with 8 minutes left and there's a commercial so you're flipping through and you get to a NASCAR race, say "oh okay I'll check this out" and they're zoomed in on a car all alone, 8 seconds behind the leader and the announcers go "He already won a race so he's fine, he doesn't need to win. He's fine where he's at." Do you think that team losing the football game is okay losing because they already won a game this season? Of course not!
I think the playoffs are a good idea, at least the general elimination style they have now. Take almost any major American pro sport, hockey, baseball, basketball, their playoffs are basically a mirror image of NASCAR's playoff format. Nobody complains about those playoffs. You have a long regular season, a select # of the best teams make it into the playoffs, and they play a series of games to decide who gets to move on to the next round. It's not like American football how if you have one fluke game, your qb gets sick the day before or something, and you go from #1 ranked to eliminated, everyone has an equal shot, even if it's not a good shot. Through a series like MLB, NBA, NHL, the best of the best has multiple chances to prove themselves worthy to move on.
One change I would legitimately like to see made if they keep the current format is actually kind of close to what he presented. Keep the same points system they have now, keep the stages in the race, but scrap the stage points and like Slap said, just do like F1 and give a point to the fastest lap, and maybe some other things. NASCAR is a lot closer than F1 so if you pit for fresh tires with 3 to go, you'll likely end up a lap down and losing more positions than that point makes up, but it could still spice up some competition further back in the field. Or just scrap the playoff points, I still have no idea what they do other than confuse me.
If they're looking to completely revamp the playoffs, here's my suggestion: Make it even more like other sports and have a *wildcard race* at the start. Keep the 10 race playoffs, but with 12/14 drivers, and wins don't lock you in, except for the drivers with the most wins, and most laps led, get a lock. The first playoff race is the wildcard race, 2/4 drivers get eliminated to weed out those "lucky" wins or guys who juuuust squeaked in, and some bad luck can also screw you over. For the next round, you eliminate drivers out of the playoffs 1 race at a time for 5 races. This sets up your final 4 races which will have the best 5 drivers remaining to fight it out for essentially the best average finish in the last 4 races. Maybe even switch the schedule up to have a road course, a super speedway, a 1.5/1 mile, and a short track(in any order) to make up the final 4 races to prove the best overall driver at every track. I know it's definitely not flawless, there are always flaws in any system, but I just really like the idea of a wildcard race and this method could put more of an influence on performance throughout the season and get rid of the "win and you're in" and the stage points which are my 2 least favorite parts of the current system. Plus, knowing someone will be eliminated each and every race, you will see drivers putting on their best performance every single race and would also help people to tune in every week.
NASCAR is the WWE of Auto Racing. It's fun when it's good, but very few of the races or champions can be considered legitimate with all of the contrived rules and formats put in place like stage racing and the playoffs. It feels fake, but that's not always a bad thing if the on track action is fun to watch. You just can't take it as seriously as something like Indycar or F1.
Imo the playoffs are really good. Maybe some small changes but overall I like them
Always will be personal opinions on stuff like this! Awesome that you like them so much :D
I’m rooting for Chase this year but I don’t think Harvick will let him win it. And yes the playoffs need to go
I am Pulling for Kyle Busch then Denny Hamlin and Martin Truex JR. I want Joe Gibbs Teams to Win since I am a Lifelong Washington Fan. Coach Gibbs is a Great Coach and Leader.
I miss the Old Nascar. I loved the old Formula of Points for Leading a Lap points for Leading the Most Laps and 43 points for a Win down to 1 point in a 43 Car Field. The Champion had to accumilate the Most Points over a Season. It rewarded Consistency.