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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
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Комментарии • 833

  • @Geekdom101
    @Geekdom101  2 года назад +88

    What character would you like me to do a "History of" next? Let me know!

    • @OmegaHPK
      @OmegaHPK 2 года назад +10

      Hit!! He’s my favorite character in all of super!

    • @maganhassan2627
      @maganhassan2627 2 года назад

      Gohan please he's more revalant with the new movie coming up

    • @boyanbg100
      @boyanbg100 2 года назад +1

      Maybe 17,18?or this ahhh what was his name the pig who transforms

    • @maganhassan2627
      @maganhassan2627 2 года назад +3

      @@boyanbg100 oolong

    • @boyanbg100
      @boyanbg100 2 года назад

      @@maganhassan2627 thank you!

  • @Degenerateriffs
    @Degenerateriffs 2 года назад +409

    Idk about other fans, but I like Jiren as a character. I really wish to see him again in the series.

    • @TheSonicHybrid13
      @TheSonicHybrid13 2 года назад +21

      He will most likely show up again at some point

    • @Orwasitme
      @Orwasitme 2 года назад +20

      I always laugh because people hate him for "having an Aniken Skywalker backstory"
      Like, okay but yall love Darth Vader?

    • @Degenerateriffs
      @Degenerateriffs 2 года назад

      @@Orwasitme Lol

    • @Vivi_9
      @Vivi_9 2 года назад +1

      @@Orwasitme one is interesting when they're on screen one is not, that's the big difference

    • @Orwasitme
      @Orwasitme 2 года назад +5

      @@Vivi_9 then hate him for that, not his backstory

  • @stephen7587
    @stephen7587 2 года назад +177

    Jiren was one of my favorite antagonists because he represents a side of Goku that he spent the entirety of Super overcoming. Goku had a goal of becoming the strongest, fighting the most powerful, and a lot of times he didn't care what had to happen for him to get stronger so long as he did it himself. He didn't like having to use the power of other people, even given willingly to fight Beerus in Battle of Gods. Goku realized throughout Super that this sort of behavior won't lead to strength because he lost every major fight in the series. And that isn't an exaggeration. Hit? Zamasu? Golden Frieza? Whenever he relied on his own strength he lost. Jiren is that side of Goku fully realized, and by the time he attains Ultra Instinct, Goku realizes that it's not a proper way to act.
    Jiren wasn't meant to be interesting on his own, more so to be a comparison to Goku.

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад +19

      Jiren showed Goku there’s so much more levels he can get to. Goku was the strongest in U7 so he never encountered a being so strong the gods marveled at him.
      I wanna see God of Destruction Toppo vs God of Destruction Vegeta (UE Vegeta) tho.

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад +1

      @MOTHERWHOEATS where’s that teamwork against Gas? Goku, Vegeta, and Granolah should be triple teaming Gas 😂

    • @chubz6211
      @chubz6211 2 года назад +3

      @@SRT_DRE Goku and Vegeta understand that for Granolah the fight with Gas is personal to him which is why they both sit out and rather let him fight alone. They'll probably try to fight him together in the next chapter

    • @benjaminjenkins394
      @benjaminjenkins394 2 года назад +2

      Thank you! The simplicity is the point! It was a measuring stick for Goku and not just as far as power is concerned but as ideology is concerned as well.

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад

      @@chubz6211 nope. Didn’t work out.

  • @joshualowe959
    @joshualowe959 2 года назад +49

    I will never forget how difficult it was for Goku & the Dragon Team to eliminate Jiren. Jiren eliminated Hit & Vegeta, he was strong enough to compete with Ultra Instinct Goku, in the end, it took the teamwork of Goku, Frieza & Android 17 to eliminate Jiren

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад +7

      Next time, Jiren won’t just beat tf out of them without eliminating them. He underestimated them as a team. When they fight again, he’s going straight for the eliminations and that’s going to be scary.

    • @MonkeMan2.0
      @MonkeMan2.0 2 года назад +8

      He’s actually crazy if you think about it, scared someone away, one shot kale, tired goku out in their first battle who happened to have kaioken blue, used the spirit bomb, and used ui sign and he couldn’t stand a chance, then he tired hit out next, held his own against goku and vegeta, who were in their respective maximum forms, including vegeta’s evolution blue, then afterwards was able to later on handle against them again, alongside 17 and even tossed frieza aside, you get the idea.
      Jiren was an absolute monster, he literally tossed everyone aside, and I would love to see more of him

    • @cherrybae43
      @cherrybae43 Год назад

      @@MonkeMan2.0 u forgot to add that he was able to overpower complete ultra instinct goku at one point

    • @juscallmedagoose9619
      @juscallmedagoose9619 11 месяцев назад

      Jiren even more dangerous now since he more to fight for a universe and a friend topping unlocked a new power in jiren jiren is bottomless at the moment

  • @benjaminherrera539
    @benjaminherrera539 2 года назад +238

    I wouldn't mind seeing jiren come back when the dbs anime returns in the future plus I would very much like to know how he was able to join the pride troopers or see him spar/fight with broly

    • @otastar4887
      @otastar4887 2 года назад +4

      hes not in any of the new arcs so you can throw away that dream

    • @benjaminherrera539
      @benjaminherrera539 2 года назад +2

      @@otastar4887 In my comment I was thinking about beyond the new arcs that we've already seen like the moro and granola arc

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 года назад +1

      @@otastar4887 Actually, he could appear in filler episodes, in the anime.

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад +3

      Jiren’s master and the clown god were close friends. The clown god was a former pride trooper. So I assume the clown got Jiren to join them. Then Jiren got promoted to God of Destruction, but he didn’t want the job cause he doesn’t destroy. He’s a protector. So next in line was the clown god.

    • @Cay9z
      @Cay9z 2 года назад +2

      If theres a second tournament of power like the one Geekdom was talking about potentially could happen then Jiren could be in that one then they could do a rematch

  • @iGokuBlack
    @iGokuBlack 2 года назад +103

    Jiren don't Fear anything... The Fear fears Jiren...

    • @Sosavelli
      @Sosavelli 2 года назад +13

      Jiren doesn’t get scared. Scared gets Jiren

    • @SmokingzMagiczTreez
      @SmokingzMagiczTreez 2 года назад +6

      Gg but my azz read that as:
      " Jiren doesnt fear anything, the Fans fear Jiren"🤣

  • @salvulcano1136
    @salvulcano1136 2 года назад +145

    I like Jiren and his character because he's this nonchalant, chill character that only cares about justice. As we saw in the manga, Jiren didn't care about the ToP even when Toppo told him that the Universe could be erased, but when the Super Dragon Balls were brought into the picture, then he entered. This goes to show that Jiren didn't care that the Universe could be erased, he just wanted to serve Justice. Also another reason is that it's not everyday where you see a mortal who is stronger than a GoD without training with any angels or has god Ki. Jiren attained his power soley for the purpose that strength is everything, he wanted the power so that if one day the monster that killed his parents comes back, he will be able to kill the monster. Jiren never trained/sparred with anyone and had power greater than a God of Destruction, that should be impossible, but Jirens whole character is labeled around impossible. Took on hits time skip like it was nothing, 1v2'ed Goku and Vegeta even when Vegeta had his new form, and unlocked even more power at the end. Jiren is by far THE most interesting character in DB history and they definitely bring him in the next anime.

    • @danteherndon1094
      @danteherndon1094 2 года назад +9

      He doesn't care about justice, he cares about power

    • @Degenerateriffs
      @Degenerateriffs 2 года назад

      Totally agree

    • @salvulcano1136
      @salvulcano1136 2 года назад +6

      @@danteherndon1094 He does care about justice as well, that's what the pride troopers are about.

    • @dekaritheprofessor2631
      @dekaritheprofessor2631 2 года назад

      I Definitely agree with this❤🔥🔥🔥

    • @thatoneguy3253
      @thatoneguy3253 2 года назад +9

      @@salvulcano1136 I don't think Justice is necessarily what he's after, considering everything he's done. He doesn't fight every battle he can, only the one's where they really need him but if he fought more battles he could easily lessen casualties and damages but I'm sure that's because this is a kids show and they don't care about that. Furthermore you can't tell me Justice is his character when all he talks about is power and strength. Jirens true character is about power, all he cares about is being the strongest because "Strength is all that matters" as he said. Your line about Jiren caring about justice I think is just wrong, that's toppos character. Jiren is all about strength, I mean he called Gokus friends meaningless and tried to kill them so do you really think this is a man who lives by "Justice"? Or does he live by strength and power?

  • @astriverofstrengthandknowledge
    @astriverofstrengthandknowledge 2 года назад +33

    While many see him as a bland antagonist, I would honestly be down for a movie that covered Jiren’s past and his thirst for power in great detail. It would be interesting to see what kind of villains and rivals he clashed with in his respective universe as well as the training he went through to gain that much strength. If handled right, it could do wonders for his overall character and leave fans wanting him back in the series again for future threats.

  • @KDBSPORTS_ENT
    @KDBSPORTS_ENT 2 года назад +25

    Jiren is my favorite dbs character! Loved how they cloaked him in mystery in the beginning!

  • @Kinra_Jade
    @Kinra_Jade 2 года назад +31

    Many points to why i like Jiren since before and after the end of the show:
    - to hide his weakness, he gathered strength to the unreasonable point. He was motivated by trauma which i can relate to. It is not easy to overcome.
    - he's simple: no transformation, no known biology power-up, no last minute power-up skill, no power of friendship. Just him and the raw power he gathered by himself.
    - being an opposite of Goku's strength ideology without being a villain.
    - although he's innerly a loner, he can be of help to others and work with them.
    - no one *triumphed over* him in a 1v1 matchup. Both in manga and anime, the main characters had to team up to defeat him, thus firmly standing his strength. I do not, personally, count MUI Goku's win for two reasons:
    * TOP's rule on how to eliminate others and
    * although he did beat Jiren in a physical aspect, this one wasn't yet out of juice and his weakened mind made him lose the will to fight. My point is: an opponent is *triumphed on* when, fighting hard both mentally and physically, they still got outclassed and lost. You could argue, following my point, that Goku did triumph in the anime but his victory was cut short by MUI's drawback and he couldn't go all the way to eliminate Jiren by himself in the end.
    Just because the execution was poor doesn't mean the character is any less valuable once you get to know the details about them.

  • @Action-Punk
    @Action-Punk 2 года назад +113

    If anything Jiren is Goku without the dragon balls, a very great contrast to Goku the protagonist and what it means to have strength credit to SethTheProgrammer for that

    • @NettechZelkova
      @NettechZelkova 2 года назад +18

      That’s deep. Actually he’s Goku without people he considers friends

    • @Action-Punk
      @Action-Punk 2 года назад +2

      @@garouthedemon7401 yes I did forgot to credit but did now so thanks for reminder

    • @mando7323
      @mando7323 2 года назад

      Lmao imagine copying another RUclipsrs words 🤣

    • @Action-Punk
      @Action-Punk 2 года назад +1

      @@mando7323 yeah I had to echo the sentiment it’s not my own statement I did credit Seth

    • @TheBlankEvolved
      @TheBlankEvolved 2 года назад +1

      @@mando7323 it’s almost crazy that some humans can have the same thought process

  • @victorcippitelli2242
    @victorcippitelli2242 2 года назад +51

    I liked Jiren as a character because it is clear that he was made to be a counterpart and opposite to Goku. While Goku seeks to become strong and achieves it by interacting with different fighters, getting to know them through fighting and even changing them, making them reconsider to make them better versions of themselves until they become his friends and allies (even Frieza changed not in person but in his interest in start training to unleash his hidden power which he never gave importance to), Jiren is the opposite: someone who became strong on his own without wanting to establish connections or be interested in others, not even his comrades like Toppo and the rest of the Pride Troopers

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад

      Some people compare him to DC Characters such as Superman.

    • @victorcippitelli2242
      @victorcippitelli2242 2 года назад +6

      @@henkaistudio He is a Superman-type character like many seen in different media like Homelander or Omniman but he does not display typical Superman traits such as his optimistic and smiling attitude, gentleness, etc. More like a BvS type but no so much

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад +1

      @@victorcippitelli2242 yes I know that that’s what I thought too when I first saw this character and the way he fights and everything.

    • @Covisi0n
      @Covisi0n Месяц назад

      Reminds me of a cross between Superman and Batman. Strength + Fighting IQ.

  • @MentaAzul
    @MentaAzul 2 года назад +21

    LET'S GO JIREN!
    It's also important to note that the smile and the glass shattered around him in episode 131 after Toppo gives him encouragement is a metaphor to say that his trust is back, then he's defeated by Goku and Frieza as a team, TRUST

  • @Freedomerider
    @Freedomerider 2 года назад +20

    Honestly, I think Jiren gets too much shit. While he's basically your generic edgy anime protagonist, I think that's what he's supposed to be. He's like Goku without Dragon Balls or the ability to see his friends. Someone who's lost those he loves, and become cold and bitter.

    • @NightmareZzK
      @NightmareZzK 2 года назад

      Oh wow

    • @sirmel11
      @sirmel11 2 года назад +4

      The backstory could have been more detailed.

    • @truthboom
      @truthboom 2 года назад

      unlike goku he's a virgin and rarely go outside. so nah he's not generic

    • @StudyingManually
      @StudyingManually 2 года назад

      @@sirmel11 We don't need a lame Sasuke backstory

    • @sirmel11
      @sirmel11 2 года назад

      @@StudyingManually Yeah why even have a story? Why talk? The characters should just fight.

  • @vanquish3408
    @vanquish3408 2 года назад +48

    Jiren is one of the most cleanest rivals for goku without that man he would've get Ui as fast

  • @TheSub-SaharanAmericanLegend
    @TheSub-SaharanAmericanLegend 2 года назад +9

    Jiren became my favorite character because I can relate how he moves with his philosophy

  • @KootenaiKing
    @KootenaiKing 2 года назад +14

    My favorite character. Dude pushed Goku and Vegeta to their limits. Without any major transformation. He was just strong. Once he puts something behind his reason for training, he's gonna be a freighttrain.

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад +3

      He finally realized he needs to trust his friends. That alone will make him a whole lot stronger. Imagine him and Toppo working together in a fight. They literally would’ve won if Jiren didn’t just watch Vegeta plot hole Toppo out of the tournament. There’s no way Goku, Frieza, Vegeta, and 17 would’ve beaten Jiren/Toppo teamwork.

    • @dark-xh7fs
      @dark-xh7fs 2 года назад

      @@SRT_DRE well they would litteraly win if one of those would take top seriusly from the begining. Guess universe 11 wasn't important case enough. So again its vegeta vs cell kind of situation.

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад

      @@dark-xh7fs I agree. Jiren could used his glare from the beginning and just knocked everyone that wasn’t strong enough to defend it out of the ring. He had multiple opportunities to throw Goku out of the ring but just let him run and hide idk why. I think Toppo took it serious but the whole Vegeta blowing himself up and somehow surviving his own self destruction ruined that.
      Next time I wanna see Gohan vs Toppo.

  • @maganhassan2627
    @maganhassan2627 2 года назад +31

    I look forward to see jiren more & how he develops further in the series I think an arc about other universes would be great instead of just universe 7

  • @The_Gohan_of_Crunch
    @The_Gohan_of_Crunch 2 года назад +32

    He sounds just like younger Torgoro from yu yu hakusho! Togoro came back to his dojo where a demon killed all his students. He went into isolation and changed, after he beat the demon he asked to be turned into the highest class of demon, with strength absolute. Jiren also wanted strength absolute. Both didn’t want to be in a state of weakness to never have something taken from them ever again. Great video Danny!!

    • @bobsmith8405
      @bobsmith8405 2 года назад +3

      Although Toguro is only B class and we move up to S class before the ending of Yu Yu Hakusho

    • @The_Gohan_of_Crunch
      @The_Gohan_of_Crunch 2 года назад +1

      @@bobsmith8405 Very true. I was just stating what togoro said in the show to show the comparison.

  • @kilam4evur927
    @kilam4evur927 2 года назад +8

    19:11 Yeah, this. Marcarita's comments in Episode 111 stating that he's in a different league after seeing his performance, after only recently seeing Jiren for the first time and being filled in by Belmod as to who Jiren was. Vados in the same episode stating that he was like no other. The fact that in the original airing of the special, the Grand Priest had to put up a barrier to protect the Grand Zeno's. The angels and GoD's in episode 130 being in shock after Jiren was able to down UI Goku. In episode 131, he continued to be just as agile and nimble as he was in his previous fight. He shook an infinite reality, broke out of Hit's Time Cage, fought 17, Goku, Frieza, and Vegeta in a 4-on-1, shielded the Pride Troopers from Aniraza's shockwaves, was able to jump higher than the T.O.P. pillar in an instant after recognizing Goku had set up bombs to exploit an opening and was able to propel himself back up to the T.O.P. arena stage by jumping on tiny pebbles that were heading downward, launched an infinite amount of punches in a mere second, and all whilst not exuding a fraction of his true power. When he was exuding his Full Power, the entire T.O.P. arena was engulfed in fiery ki. When he was at Super Full Power, the entire World of Void was set ablaze, and his power was able to nullify UI dodging. Super Full Power seemed like Jiren's infinite potential was realized and brought to the surface and he continued to grow in strength to meet the challenge, resisting all the way up until the end. And when the glass shattered in episode 131, it was like his mind was freed from trauma, and he could fight with mind, body, and soul at once. Jiren's Super Full Power felt like the amalgamation of his pursuit of just and virtuous strength

  • @Arcklight_adam
    @Arcklight_adam 2 года назад +6

    Jiren the character that everyone says his back story is trash but he has the most human back story in the series

  • @tyx8898
    @tyx8898 2 года назад +11

    I always thought of Jirens meditation as like a Combat Meditation, almost like Batman’s prep time. He knows he’s stronger, he’s just mentally projecting himself analyzing everything around him so he knows what to do during combat. Like think Piccolo and Gohan sitting there meditating and doing the same thing, but they’re sparing against each other.

    • @reallyhimongod
      @reallyhimongod 2 года назад

      Thats not it lol meditation is used to gain ki nothing more

    • @tyx8898
      @tyx8898 2 года назад

      But didn’t Gohan and piccolo do something like that already? Mental Combat

    • @reallyhimongod
      @reallyhimongod 2 года назад

      @@tyx8898 no youre thinkin of when Goku and Gohan had a mental battle of Krillin versus Basil and Krillin lost horribly🤣

    • @tyx8898
      @tyx8898 2 года назад

      @@reallyhimongod so no training of the mind?

    • @reallyhimongod
      @reallyhimongod 2 года назад

      @@tyx8898 no dude its called an Image Battle look it up

  • @TokenDrew
    @TokenDrew 2 года назад +10

    I always thought Jiren was dope as hell.

  • @yourkingreturns
    @yourkingreturns 2 года назад +34

    I also like that Jiren was not afraid to get his hands dirty by the end, he's my favorite of Goku's rivals so far

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад +6

      He’s my all time favorite fighter. Doesn’t need a transformation. Trains alone. And he doesn’t kill. He’s literally Batman but with Superman powers.

    • @Tylermiller778
      @Tylermiller778 2 года назад +3

      @@SRT_DRE batman personality with superman powers

    • @SRT_DRE
      @SRT_DRE 2 года назад +2

      @@Tylermiller778 same sht Sherlock

    • @Cay9z
      @Cay9z 2 года назад +2

      They arent rivals anymore probably

    • @Tylermiller778
      @Tylermiller778 2 года назад

      @@SRT_DRE k

  • @grimdaggz
    @grimdaggz 2 года назад +28

    Thank you for posting this! Jiren has always been interesting, especially his PTSD. Jiren is still scared of facing the one who ended his parents & his master. Take note of the Batman reference. Rather than face that again, even if he knows he'll win, he'll rather keep training & getting stronger, forever. Imagine if Vegeta stayed training in the Room of Spirit & Time just to avoid Perfect Cell, or a gamer remaining grinding to pass a difficult part, but forever. That's Jiren. As strong as he is, his psyche is still broken. Beautiful.

  • @TokenDrew
    @TokenDrew 2 года назад +20

    Not gonna lie, when I first saw Jiren, I got superman vibes in terms of overwhelming strength. My first thought was this is dragon ball's version of superman for goku to eventually defeat.

    • @victorcippitelli2242
      @victorcippitelli2242 2 года назад +1

      He's a Superman type-character, but without the optimistic, smiling attitute Superman has

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад

      @@victorcippitelli2242 He definitely is but if he faught against Superman Prime One Million he would stand no chance against him.

    • @nocap6000
      @nocap6000 2 года назад

      Superman prime one million literally has no feats… he loses to SSB Goku he’s not even universe level

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад

      @@nocap6000 he resurrected Lois and he’s above and beyond it’s just that he can’t defeat Zeno but definitely Goku tho.

    • @knightstudio9985
      @knightstudio9985 2 года назад

      That was Hourman not superman that bring lois back to life.

  • @lordveedo
    @lordveedo 2 года назад +5

    I'm watching this video now cause I just got off work and Jiren is one of the best characters in super. Period. He wasn't a villain. He wasn't a hero. He was a monster that had laser focus on becoming better. Like Vegeta but with Gokus progress.

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb9821 2 года назад +38

    I will say I like Jiren and appreciate that Toriyama and Toei flipped the "physically weak gray alien" stock character.
    Jiren's character growth in starting to make connections with the other Pride Troopers makes me want to see him again to see how he has changed.

  • @marcusmulethaler5367
    @marcusmulethaler5367 2 года назад +4

    I believe Whole heartedly that if Jiren came back hed be stronger than Goku is. Remember he got that strong on his own with some flaws, such as not trusting anyone or not really caring for others long as he strong enough to do what needs to be done. After that tournament Jiren was a changed alien. Goku helped him grow as a character. And now that hes more open minded and more apathetic towards others and other things and also the most important Trust. He now sees that the trust of a powerful freindship can help you. And with that growth hes bound to become stronger being open to other training methods, maybe even tryna learn UI, or something close to combat UI like he was. Idk i hope he comes back.

  • @jordanrobinson9064
    @jordanrobinson9064 2 года назад +14

    There is something unique about Jiren’s species. He possesses power and strength well within the realm of divine beings despite only being mortal and can transcend time itself; I mean, who in the world does that?

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад +1

      @Justin Arzola yeah he sure does

    • @sirmel11
      @sirmel11 2 года назад +1

      There doesn't have to be anything special to his power.

    • @JEtienneMusic
      @JEtienneMusic Год назад

      Dio Brando or Jotaro Kujo are the only ones that come to mind but they aren't even in DB lol

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 2 года назад +16

    This video made Jired more interesting than the backstory we were given.

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад

      It’s great and he’s one of the most Strongest Characters throughout Dragon Ball Super.

  • @Cay9z
    @Cay9z 2 года назад +8

    I really want to see Goku rematch Beerus more than Jiren, its been about 9 years

    • @dark-xh7fs
      @dark-xh7fs 2 года назад

      If you look aylt manga you can say with a confidence that goku would still lose. Just like vegeta.

  • @kilam4evur927
    @kilam4evur927 2 года назад +8

    6:41 Precisely, he didn't want to be strong for the sake of being strong. He wanted to be strong, so that he could use his strength to protect other people, trained himself to travel across planets in mere moments so that other people would never experience a lack of justice like he did.
    He honed his senses, understood that the best means of defense was to guard, can almost instantaneously deduce and respond to incoming threats, and fights honestly with no tricks and doesn't exploit openings.
    He has personality, but in order to be a peak fighter in combat, every moment must be treated as though there is danger, and that is true. You are never safe. So he must be reserved, vigilant, aware of his surroundings.
    Goku was wrong saying that you can trust people and for what he did. People who say that are using their friends, or peers for this or that reason. You become dependent on people, and you allow yourself to become open and lax. He constantly uses his friends, when it's convenient for him, and then forgets about them if they're not strong. Jiren wasn't trying to convince Goku that he was right. He was right. But, he had someone who was trying to convince him of that and make him question what he knew was reality and if you're in that situation where you know you're right, and someone with no experience is trying to change your perception when they don't even know themselves, you would obviously be pressed. Not to mention, this guy is also forcing you into this fight out of pure selfishness, and your whole universe and everyone you've known and whose peace you've tried to protect is on the verge of being deleted forever by an unstoppable force. Jiren approached his life correctly and dedicated his life to protecting other's peace. He took lessons from his life, used his head, and learned from them. It's why he'll always be my favorite and most respected character

    • @coreythomas3633
      @coreythomas3633 2 года назад

      Best comment in my opinion

    • @kilam4evur927
      @kilam4evur927 2 года назад

      @@coreythomas3633 Thanks bro! Glad you understand

    • @coreythomas3633
      @coreythomas3633 2 года назад +1

      @@kilam4evur927 yea anybody that has trauma are going to do all they can to prevent it. Like Batman for example

    • @kilam4evur927
      @kilam4evur927 2 года назад

      @@coreythomas3633 Exactly, we're all just doing our best

    • @coreythomas3633
      @coreythomas3633 2 года назад +1

      @@kilam4evur927 yep so i agree whole heartily

  • @chanceneck8072
    @chanceneck8072 2 года назад +7

    1:49 omg, the introduction of this video is almost as epic as Jiren´s introduction in the T.O.P. !.......

  • @Tylermiller778
    @Tylermiller778 2 года назад +5

    I wanna see Jiren again i can relate to jiren in real life which is why he is one of my favorites

  • @trollof229antthevariable9
    @trollof229antthevariable9 2 года назад +5

    Jiren was my fav character in super. The stoic beast.

  • @KaizenMethod12
    @KaizenMethod12 2 года назад +7

    I wish we got an explanation as to how Jiren got as strong as he did. Whis mentioned to Vegeta that regular training would never get you to GoD level yet Jiren did it.

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 года назад +1

      yup. that is my most favored question for jiren. how he attained the level beyond his G.O.D.
      and then being able to somewhat keep up with UI. ridiculous!!
      without any angel training or special god ki and shit like that...

    • @shadowslayer9988
      @shadowslayer9988 2 года назад

      @@krishrama Frezia 😐😐😐😐.

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 года назад

      @@shadowslayer9988 what about lord freeza??
      u mean back when he fought ssb in ressurection F?? the golden freeza transformation...
      hmm. yeah it was a epic asspull. to bring freeza back and be relevant in power to dbs goku. i aint denying that shit. freeza could just go upto ssb but he trained and it was said he was a fighting prodigy tho. never trained before in his life. so they at least tried to give a decent logical lore. then he also had a deep lore built around him. before that. in dbz. so it makes sense in a way. his own strength being able to catch up. he was born with such a high power level.... kinda like the legendary ssj of his race. even his original final form in dbz was close to super saiyan goku. so thats pretty badass for someone at that point in db. at that time he was the strongest being in the db universe. to be fair many charas since freeza already proved to be able to fight ssb by this point in the series. my fav being Hit. but ya god ki became fooderized dbs shitty writting. ya god ki isnt as special as it once was and can be opposed by mortals and with no special deity training as well. amazing... wtf!! sad but whatever. it is what it is.
      also freeza and his dad are special powerful mutations of their race or someshit. they are the only ones of their species we ever seen in dbz/dbs. they are special lolz. a rare race that we dont really know much about sadly. pretty much the most powerful species in dragonball upto that time. they ruled galaxy and shit. all im saying is freeza makes at least a bit more sense for his power overall compared to jiren.
      nothing special about jiren tho. so him being dominate over ssb and god isnt that shocking to see. and its like anyone could have attained his level power with the same trauma bs he had and dedication to power...
      seriously vegeta should have been at that level then. they got same ego and pride. and vegeta suffered way more brutal shit in his life!! and vegeta is always into training and shit as well. so yea its lame. come on mortal ki fighting on par with MUI is just too much bullshit to drink in!! just to hype this mortal who is beyond GOD. its bad enough he was keepin up with omen UI. especially if you followed the hype Whis was building that upto to be since ressurection F. form which no G.O.D. even could master. it was very much made to be the highest anyone could go in dragonball lore since dbs. so jirens asspulls in TOP ruined it for me by the end... i was a fan of the gray. but then i lost the hype. :(
      and it paved the way for MUI to be fodderized in going lores. such a pity to see. just like god ki. but with UI they really just fucked up bringing in UI/MUI too early in the series. should have saved it for the grand finale of dragonball. and i gotta just stop replying to these. way too many of my comments. lmao. but boredom. hope we get more dbs super hero n gohan news soon... :D

    • @saiporeddy7303
      @saiporeddy7303 4 месяца назад

      @@krishrama get a life lil bro

  • @Xnaut314
    @Xnaut314 2 года назад +47

    Jiren has a good foundation, but he needs a lot more character outlining and development before I can truly call him a good character. I feel like people like Jiren practically for the same reasons people liked original Broly, just because he wields power that can easily dominate the perceived peak of power we have grown accustomed to in the series thus far. It makes for good visuals and the primal satisfaction to just see numbers go up, but it's incredibly shallow and hollow once you look past that. What makes DBS Broly so much better than original Broly is that he is more than just muscles upon muscles, and Jiren needs that same kind of non-cliche character depth the next time we see him.

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 года назад +1

      That's if we ever see him again.

    • @benjaminjenkins394
      @benjaminjenkins394 2 года назад +2

      I respectfully disagree. Simplicity of his character was done well and what was needed at the time.

    • @ssbashalot7324
      @ssbashalot7324 2 года назад +2

      You did not just compare Jiren to dbz broly. Jiren has a way more interesting backstory that dbz broly.

    • @marcusmulethaler5367
      @marcusmulethaler5367 2 года назад +3

      Yea but the simplicity of his character combined with his overwhelming power is what made him interesting to me. Because it just makes me curious how he trained and what he did to obtain this power. A being that could go toe to toe with someone using Godki and Ultra Instinct without having or using these techniques himself. Hes not the perfect character but he was deff a good character. And a breathe of fresh air at the time.

    • @Dr.AutismGod
      @Dr.AutismGod 2 года назад

      DBZ Broly was not just muscles

  • @PridedWaif
    @PridedWaif 2 года назад +5

    Jiren the grey - Goku’s greatest rival!

  • @coreymichael1880
    @coreymichael1880 2 года назад +3

    Love when I see videos on Jiren. We can’t ever forget how much of a phenom this guy is.

  • @ZenRyoku
    @ZenRyoku 2 года назад +5

    Jiren is the absolute best amazing benchmark vs any character within this Dragonball universe... 💯
    Jiren deserves an exponential amount of respect compared to any combined set of fighting beings that has ever existed within the Dragonball multiverse.... 💯

  • @arindamscacichlids7113
    @arindamscacichlids7113 6 месяцев назад +2

    I completely agree with Jiren's philosophy regarding acquiring the ultimate strength/power and being a loner where one can only rely upon himself and no one else.
    I agree with him 100%.

  • @benjaminjenkins394
    @benjaminjenkins394 2 года назад +5

    Honestly my favorite character in all of Dragon Ball. 🤷🏾‍♂️ His backstory didn’t need to be overly complicated…the fact that it was as simple it was made him that more compelling to me. His friends, family, and master died so his goals and ambitions made sense. We all have been there as people, feeling letdown by others and feeling as if the only way to fix things is by doing it your fucking self. He is exteriorly one of the toughest opponents Goku and Vegeta have faced but he was also internally one of the weakest…what makes Jiren so tragic is that he hated himself, he hated the fact that he thinks he let his master and everyone else killed. Great vid and I hope people can let go of the “complex for complexity sake” way of thinking…buddy just wanted to protect people with power and power only and that “pride” was ultimately his downfall…that’s it, that’s all you need. Also, Manga Jiren is substantially a better iteration of his character but the anime version was still decent.
    Also, his music fucking slaps 🔥

  • @lionelsuarez6717
    @lionelsuarez6717 2 года назад +4

    Bravo! Geekdom! Incredible video. You managed to give me goosebumps when you went over the part of Jiren power transcends time and space! Damn! You made me miss Dragon Ball Super bro!

  • @Waqas_Khan02
    @Waqas_Khan02 2 года назад +7

    Loved this character in Super he really was a challenge to Goku.
    Toei or Toriyama should make an arc or special about him and explore his backstory just they did with Future Trunks.

  • @IvanSkaro86
    @IvanSkaro86 2 года назад +4

    Jiren is so cool fighter that even his aura have its own auras.
    He is my favorite character from Goku's roster of oponents.

  • @SniperKing-O
    @SniperKing-O 2 года назад +3

    Imagine Jiren learning a god transformation varient like Goku and Vegeta did and it makes his body lean, but muscular. I'd love to see something like that for Jiren if/when he returns. :D

  • @pianoman9146
    @pianoman9146 Год назад +2

    I also like Jiren, the fact that he was able to block Ssg punches with 1 finger, reverse the Genkidama with his glare, I mean, only MUI could avoid his glare punches. (I mean, his glare technique is probably the most badass technique I've ever seen) He One-hit Kefla and over, and being able to defeat Hit's secret time skip technique was really impressive. I just hope they don't disrespect his legacy, and don't make him weak as the series progresses. He's not that type of guy.

  • @Wooosaaahhh
    @Wooosaaahhh 2 года назад +21

    Jiren became one of my favorite characters in DB the moment they first introduced him. Yeah his backstory is very "plain" and "basic" but they did rush the ToP arc numerous times throughout and his backstory they definitely could've polished a lil bit more given the fact. Nonetheless, he didn't/doesn't need some unique, extravagant backstory. I am interested and hope they dive back into his backstory again at some point and actually give us more insight on how he crossed paths with the Pride Troopers, how and why he joined etc. That would definitely be interesting. I hope we do see him again because I do believe he picked right back up where he left off in terms of training after the ToP and since Goku needed MUI to actually give himself a real chance of beating him, I am curious to see how their rematch would pan out given he is one of the top 3-5 strongest characters in the DB universe in the current timeline of the Granolah arc in the manga.

    • @leultrainstinct406
      @leultrainstinct406 2 года назад +1

      I never understood why ppl didn’t like his backstory
      It’s the saddest out of any db character imo. Even future trunks

  • @XChristmasManX
    @XChristmasManX 2 года назад +3

    GO JIREN!!!!

  • @arkmason7823
    @arkmason7823 2 года назад +3

    Man I got so hype watching this video. The fight with him and Goku was simply amazing

  • @KelzBernard
    @KelzBernard 2 года назад +3

    One of my absolute FAVORITE dragon ball characters! Jiren is that dude! 😎

  • @danielhendrickson2513
    @danielhendrickson2513 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the break down. I’ve never had the ability to follow the series and just saw a cut of the ToP episodes and was confused about who he was or his team. I appreciate it.

  • @IDKSS
    @IDKSS 2 года назад +10

    History of Jiren
    Big strong guy
    That's all lol

    • @CertainlyCynical
      @CertainlyCynical 2 года назад

      And that’s all you need😎

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ 2 года назад +1

      @@CertainlyCynical Only if you like primitive, caveman "characters".

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 года назад

      lmao!! :(
      i wish there was more then just that tho...

  • @brucewayne-bv4ok
    @brucewayne-bv4ok 2 года назад +6

    *I still remember the hype jiren had during the airing ! It's second to none ! Owari - da 👽*

  • @DaveGDangerous
    @DaveGDangerous 2 года назад +5

    I loved this video so much. His theme is just awesome. Guy is a cool character , so much more depth to him to unravel. Would love to see who killed his master.

  • @songoku9348
    @songoku9348 2 года назад +18

    I would say Jiren was Goku’s greatest rival yet. He sure put up a hell of a fight.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 2 года назад +11

      Nah Vegeta is his greatest rival Jiren was just a wall goku was going to overcome

    • @CertainlyCynical
      @CertainlyCynical 2 года назад +2

      @@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Nah no way is vegeta goku’s greatest rival.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 2 года назад +5

      @@CertainlyCynical But he is and he's been neck to neck with goku every step of the way since Super and goku has never actually beaten Vegeta in a fight either, Definetly goku's greatest rival that's like saying Sasuke isn't Naruto's greatest rival Lols

    • @oscaraguilar6980
      @oscaraguilar6980 2 года назад +4

      @@CertainlyCynical he definitely is. Vegeta and Goku have an insane rivalry, and they always tested each other, especially their views on their Saiyan Heritage. It’s a really cool dynamic

    • @ngtpremium5680
      @ngtpremium5680 2 года назад

      @@oscaraguilar6980 Yeah jiren as a rival or a stark contrast to goku is what saved his character tbh.

  • @jayriv1
    @jayriv1 2 года назад +3

    Jiren became my absolute favorite character. I would love to see him against Beerus & Broly.

  • @Mappster
    @Mappster 2 года назад +2

    12:40 - That Universe 11 City build looks so fine tho.
    would gladly see a series about their Universe.

  • @johnperez9944
    @johnperez9944 2 года назад +2

    >Deep dive
    >Jiren
    Pick one. Jiren and his story have the depth of a street puddle.

  • @amosmaka6030
    @amosmaka6030 2 года назад +2

    Jiren Fact: Jiren is the only one who can see John Cena.

  • @austinglass1916
    @austinglass1916 2 года назад +15

    Bro I was just watching DBS earlier, thinking how Jiren and Belmod matched their power. At some point they fought and Jiren won. Imagine all of his fights!

  • @cartier2312
    @cartier2312 2 года назад +2

    Jiren has ultra Instinct

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад +1

      A similar power to it called Full Power mode as it was revealed in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2.

  • @yaboighandiyo6510
    @yaboighandiyo6510 2 года назад +3

    I think PTSD is a bit of a stretch when describing Jiren in regards to his tragic backstory. Sure, he suffers from multiple extreme depressions that would sensibly lead to PTSD, yet he's completely void in its symptoms. Rather, he seems incredibly obsessed with power only, reasoning that with this power he'll never get hurt and can protect those he loves.

  • @Shimigani1701
    @Shimigani1701 2 года назад +3

    THIS is why I watch, like and subscribe to Geekdom. His in depth analysis of dragon ball characters, power levels, arcs and techniques are second to none!!

    • @Myles_Mcfly
      @Myles_Mcfly 2 года назад

      Daammnnnn you on that niggas nuts!

  • @idiverse3457
    @idiverse3457 2 года назад +3

    Jiren is my favorite character from the dragon ball franchise. He's written well and his dark path remains me of Batman. I hope they bring him back throughout the series kinda like Hit another badass.

  • @stefanbond4170
    @stefanbond4170 2 года назад +3

    Jiren probably could of soloed the whole tournament if he was serious from the start. Thats the crazy thing. Lots of fighters would've been knocked out if Jiren just hit them with that attack he does with his eyes.

  • @inspectaslime
    @inspectaslime 2 года назад +2

    Never thought of this till now but, Jiren is the way he is because of a person that killed his whole race and killed his friends, and Goku defeated Jiren together with a person that killed his whole race and his friends, and that's also the reason Goku is the way he is.

  • @MartySince87
    @MartySince87 2 года назад +3

    We all know if Jiren wasn't busy meditating he would have curb stomp just about everyone there

  • @1SoljaAnt4
    @1SoljaAnt4 2 года назад +2

    I ALWAYS knew that was Jiren in the cloak at first. So glad you mentioned that!

  • @joelgayle5755
    @joelgayle5755 2 года назад +1

    we needed this video

  • @neosonic199
    @neosonic199 2 года назад +2

    One thing I can give Jiren credit for is him reaching freakishly strong heights without the need for transformations. I still have a high opinion of him to this day.
    I enjoyed the battle between him and Goku, it was more like a philosophical fight than anything.

  • @Matt_Yniguez
    @Matt_Yniguez 2 года назад +8

    Jiren still claps Broly's cheeks. Change my mind.

    • @roshanranjan8701
      @roshanranjan8701 2 года назад +5

      Casually. Even gogeta blue as well.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 2 года назад +4

      @@roshanranjan8701 no he's not beating gogeta blue

    • @victorperkins464
      @victorperkins464 2 года назад +7

      @@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Jiren stomps Gogeta Blue by feats and statements.

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад +1

      @@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Jiren stands no chance against Gogeta and Broly stood a chance against Gogeta but he lost against him.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 2 года назад +1

      @@victorperkins464 What statement says Jiren could beat Gogeta blue? Not a single one and there is no comparison between the two, gogeta would slaughter jiren.

  • @urdnot_noraa9690
    @urdnot_noraa9690 2 года назад +1

    Bro nice on the merchandise Jiren low key Superman punching people like Roman Reigns.😂

  • @yungwune100
    @yungwune100 2 года назад +1

    @geekdom101 I absolutely loved this video. Granted. I didn't learn anything really new. I love how detailed you got in giving this powerful character a deeper dive. As a fan of the show and your channel. I can say. This was entertaining.

  • @MajinErick
    @MajinErick 2 года назад +5

    My question is...over time...how and who showed him how to use his eyes to increase his speed. To flash his eyes and somehow makes time slow down around his opponent while he stands still observing the space in front of him is insane. It's as if he's manipulating time and space to use his fists. Vegeta seeing it shocked Jiren because it's probably something that took him a long time to learn.

    • @reallyhimongod
      @reallyhimongod 2 года назад

      Nobody he trained himself did you not watch the video??

    • @MajinErick
      @MajinErick 2 года назад

      @@reallyhimongod His master was killed. Did you watch the video??

    • @reallyhimongod
      @reallyhimongod 2 года назад

      @@MajinErick bruh his master trained him till he was like 13 look at Teen Jiren with the orange beanie.. If we base Jiren off Goku and Vegetas age he’d be 41.. 13 to 41 is a lllooooottt time to train by yourself foh

  • @hellokitty19209
    @hellokitty19209 2 года назад +1

    Jiren is just Universe 11’s fused Gamma 1 & Gamma 2

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад

      He’s like a mixture of Marvel and DC Combined.

  • @demonanangel
    @demonanangel 2 года назад +3

    Please do a History on HIt. So cool character. Using just pure raw skills instead of power.

  • @eddieclay92
    @eddieclay92 6 месяцев назад +1

    Jiren is not only very powerful, but has complete control over his ki, and various different techniques unique to any other fighters.

  • @cashordeals3672
    @cashordeals3672 2 года назад +2

    Bro jiren sparking unit art in legends looks so good

  • @balamkinich7968
    @balamkinich7968 2 года назад +1

    Idk why anyone would call Jiren "Over-confident"
    It literally took A State that only Angels had mastery of to get to him.
    I can only imagine how much he's increasing over the time since the TOP. I can bet he'll be back in some way for another showdown with Goku in the series.

  • @gmaster1795
    @gmaster1795 2 года назад +2

    17 deserves a video he damaged jiren first and mentally got into his head unlike anyone else💯

  • @johnspeer7496
    @johnspeer7496 2 года назад +1

    Great video geekdom

  • @noodlebowl8890
    @noodlebowl8890 2 года назад +4

    The Alpha of Awe. The Brute of Brawn. The Cultivator of Class. The Duke of Domination. The Emperor of Eloquence. The Fiercest of Fighters. The Greatest of Glory. The Height of Heroism. The Imperator of Intellectualism. The Jarl of Justice. The King of Knights. The Lord of Loquaciousness. The Master of Mortality. The Naysayer of Noobs. The Overlord of Obituaries. The Prince of Passion. The Que-hagen of Quixote. The Ruler of Ruination. The Sultan of Smite. The Taskmaster of Trembles. The Undertaker of Ubiquity. The Vaeyen of Vociferousness. The Warranter of Weaklings. The Xenophobe of Xenogeny. The Yardmaster of Yesteryear. The Zhar of Zoroastrianism.
    Enter Jiren.

  • @alfieingrouille1528
    @alfieingrouille1528 2 года назад +2

    I don't understand the hate towards this character whats so wrong about a character with no personality and just about pure strength I thinks it's cool I mean come on people like doomguy and z broly so why does jiren get hate

  • @marcusmulethaler5367
    @marcusmulethaler5367 2 года назад +2

    Idk why people hated him. To me he was a breathe of fresh air compared to other villains/protagonist/antihero however u wanna describe him. I loved his quiet demeanor and his over whelming power. Till this day hes my favorite character despite how new he is. This is the one dude i HOPE they bring back at one point. I legit would not mind a Jiren spin off series.

    • @JEtienneMusic
      @JEtienneMusic Год назад

      They recently pulled a retcon on his strength/power which annoys me but I do hope we get way more from him than just to get newer forms for Vegeta and Goku (at that time).

  • @Krzysiek19861
    @Krzysiek19861 2 года назад +3

    Maybe in season 2 there will be fillers that cover Jirens backstory and who is the villain that killed his parents.

  • @platinumcontent9
    @platinumcontent9 2 года назад +2

    When DBS returns, it would be cool if they added the plot twist that the G.O.D was actually the one that killed Jirens parents. DB needs depth, it just fell off the cliff with Super.

  • @michaelramirez4864
    @michaelramirez4864 2 года назад +1

    My friend that I watched a couple episodes with said he didn’t like Jiren’s simple design but I thought it’s the perfect design. There’s no flashy spiky, colored hair or eyes, just a simple grey alien in a uniform everyone on his team has yet he can obliterate everyone at ToP. My favorite part of Jiren was probably when he defeated the jelly guy and everyone felt SOME power of him and freaked out.

  • @Mark-zo1hs
    @Mark-zo1hs 2 года назад +3

    I literally forgot Jiren existed lol. Good thing this video popped up at the right time.

  • @snowdog03
    @snowdog03 2 года назад +2

    Piccolo and Dabura were fond of meditation back in Z.

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 года назад +1

      nice observation...
      piccolo is always in some kinda meditation training.

  • @jasonenglish3713
    @jasonenglish3713 2 года назад +1

    Broly vs Jiren next I hope

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад

      It was shown in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 it was epic seeing both Broly and Jiren fight each other.

  • @mediocreocon
    @mediocreocon 7 месяцев назад +2

    I see Jiren as Bruce Lee and see Goku as Jackie Chan. Bruce Lee has tragedy in his life. Jackie Chan is very into his art. And he is like Goku. Even has comedy. But he is very serious in his art. Bruce and Jiren are serious and is frighteningly strong. But Goku is a heroes that doesn't want power just needs to learn and be better

  • @digunder14
    @digunder14 2 года назад

    a fight with goku is basically dragonball's version of therapy for martial artists

  • @Bahamutt.
    @Bahamutt. 2 года назад +2

    I loved this video.

  • @stefanjevremovic427
    @stefanjevremovic427 2 года назад +1

    Goku vs Jiren was battle between two heroes.

  • @Jiron127
    @Jiron127 2 года назад +2

    Jiren and hit need spin-offs within the series. Like 10 eps a piece.
    I like the pride trooper world. Very star wars esque

    • @henkaistudio
      @henkaistudio 2 года назад

      Hit is a very strong Assassin while Jiren is a very strong Pride Trooper. The only difference is that Hit can defeat very strong mortals and even mortals who become gods while Jiren is stronger then time itself and is stronger then his own God of Destruction of his universe being Lord Belmont and stronger than mortals and mortals who become gods. That’s the difference between both of them.

  • @thisistodd190
    @thisistodd190 Год назад +1

    jiren is so strong he can do the eyeball thing. when u become so powerful, every cell in your body becomes a weapon

  • @jiren8561
    @jiren8561 2 года назад +2

    Justice, will always prevail!

  • @mikegregory4386
    @mikegregory4386 2 года назад +1

    The SS God Goku vs Jiren's one finger 🤣😂🤣 Goku now knew what it was like to be Trunks waaaaay back in Dragonball Z