Hey there ! I also try record internally 24HQ with Standby Low Res. ON, and i got overheat 12 minutes after. So i look back to your TEST #2 and i saw that you didn't put it on record and just let it on with the Standby Low Res. ON so the LCD is just in low res that's why it doesn't overheat. So what the purpose of that test ? Cause if you record externally with an Atomos you need to switch the standby low res. option OFF to get the full quality (CLOG, No raw). So if i listen to the final result, it's better to get the option on if we record internally but only shorts records haha. Thank you @Deaf Director if you can help us with that.
Very interesting. I checked my settings and I already had lowers bypass turned on. I don't remember turning in on but it was. I use a Ninja V for recording 4K HQ. I haven't noticed a huge difference in quality since 1.4, but I did notice encoding h.265 wasn't as good. I think that lowers bypass might have come on with the firmware... I've since turned that off for my studio shoots, but turned it on for run and gun where I don't have the ninja. Good channel. I'll have to give you a shout out in one of my videos.
Ordinary filmmaker, so great to hear from you! I love your channel and really appreciate the time and commitment you give to bring us such great pieces of information. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day!
@@DeafDirector Thank you. I'm going to record a video at lunch time and will bring you up. I'm not going to retest what you did and recommend watch your videos and subscribe. May I use about ten seconds of your video with audio? I want to give people a sample of the work you do rather than just recommending they go visit you.
@@DeafDirector Thanks. I didn't realize I had standby lowers on since the update. I record 4KHQ - might be why the video didn't look as sharp with H.265 encoding. Turned it off for custom studio mode, but turned it on for manual shooting.
do the same test 4k HQ recording to find out how long it takes to heat up please , because if that will involve at least another 20 minutes of recording , wow !
I’m sort of inspired to try this with the R6, I only really use that camera with the ninja v and if I can get longer record timers there it might be pretty incredible. The R6 can’t record internally and externally so I’ll be interested to see if there is a diff in quality when I hit the record button.
Make sure sd cards are removed or you will overheat. If you trigger record from ninja I don’t think turning low res on is safe due to recording lower res..
Awesome! What about crop mode? I have a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 APS-C lens on my R5 shooting 24 and 60fps in crop mode. In 24fps, there is no overheat but in 60fps, it still can overheat. I’m curious if this low res mode helps?
CONFIRMED!!! I have the Canon R5 and the 5.2mm VR180 lens and a Atomos Ninja V+. I used a Samsung EVO 870 1TB SSD and was able to record 8k RAW for 59 minutes (the capacity of the drive) and no overheating!
I am not clear about one issue. If I do internal recording of the 4KHQ With Low Res Standby ON… do I get more recording time? Or only more non recording time ?
Hey Bryan, this will keep your 4KHQ actual recording time the same, but what it will do is not let you waste those precious minutes between takes. On a practical level this means on a shoot day, you should be able to run and gun using 4KHQ for much longer before it overheats. It has made a huge difference in how I can shoot on set. Thanks for the comment
@@DeafDirector do you have the same result recording 8K RAW internally, with no Ninja V? Same actual recording time but more non recording time? Thanks from Italy.
If you are not recording internal and ONLY recording on the external monitor, turn OFF Standby Low Res, because the camera won't know to cut it off once you start recording on your Atomos. If you are doing this you can avoid overheating by setting your LCD screen to cut off after 3 minutes. The HDMI will still get the signal and this will greatly extend your ability to record with no overheating. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
I experience that Stand By low res drops the frame rate when I record with Ninja V. If everything is set to 4k 60pfs and I have Standby Low Res ON the prores file will say its 60fps but will behave like 24fps in premiere pro. Basically you cant slow the file down. Have you checked this?
That is absolutely right and crashes one of my last shoots (4K no RAW). You see it nowhere and think you rec it with 50fps. After a lot of stress I found out that the "low res" function is the thing and this drops the frames. So do not use it when you need more than 24/25 fps !!!
If I am shooting RAW I tend to only use the Atomos. For Non-RAW shooting I shoot internally and externally at the same time so I have a backup on set. Have a great day!
I did have low res mode on once while recording externally to my Ninja V. I noticed in post (4K 60fps) that slowing it down to 40% on a 24fps timeline made the footage skip every frame. It was weird and unusable. So I turned off low res mode and then the Ninja V recorded fine. On my gimbal though, I don’t record external (too much gear, too heavy), so I’m interested in doing tests with this on and purely recording internal. I also shoot in crop mode so I can get a better 60fps quality.
That would be amazing. I'm not sure, why they won't let you export 4KHQ as RAW (that would be a dream export option), so the cropped 5K RAW is what we have to play with. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
I'll be damned - wait so with external 4K HQ -> do you have to have a card internally to trigger the quality improvement or just use the internal button to trigger external recording?
If you’re recording externally, you don’t need an internal card, you’d just hit record on the Atomos itself. I do this for weddings all the time (EOS R5 4KHQ or crop mode to external Atomos Ninja V). This allows you to bypass overheating and the 29:59 limit.
@@pharmatographist Thanks but that isn't what the video states. I'm aware of how external recording works as a general rule. The video states that the recording has to be triggered on-camera for the resolution to return to high res. So, the question is simply does a card need to be present for the camera to recognize that it should return to high-res from standby or will triggering it on-camera be sufficient without the card and the camera will trigger the recorder to start recording.
@@pharmatographist But if the camera is on "STANDBY: LO RES," will the HDMI output to the Ninja be in 4K HQ or in lower quality if you only trigger the recording via the monitor? Wasn't that the problem with the former "OVERHEAT CONTROL" menu option?
Atomos came out with an update for the orginal Ninja V that allows 5K RAW up to 30fps.You can check out my video on that here: ruclips.net/video/-m_hPkINC6A/видео.html
I tried shooting 8K Raw at 23.98 fps with Low Res ON and it overheated after 15 minutes (recording internally on a 512GB CFexpress Card) what do you think happened?
I tried shooting 4K HQ at 23.98 fps with Low Res ON and it overheated after 11 minutes (recording internally on a 512GB CFexpress Card) what do you think happened?
I tried shooting 4K HQ at 23.98 fps with Low Res ON and it overheated after 11 minutes (recording internally on a 512GB CFexpress Card) what do you think happened?
Hey Nelson, having an external monitor will really help, and the big thing to realize is that Standby low Res will not increase the recording times, it will only mean that when you are NOT recording you are not losing those precious minutes. Although 11 minutes sounds very short. I would try it with another CF Express card to see if that makes a difference
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Hey there ! I also try record internally 24HQ with Standby Low Res. ON, and i got overheat 12 minutes after.
So i look back to your TEST #2 and i saw that you didn't put it on record and just let it on with the Standby Low Res. ON so the LCD is just in low res that's why it doesn't overheat. So what the purpose of that test ? Cause if you record externally with an Atomos you need to switch the standby low res. option OFF to get the full quality (CLOG, No raw). So if i listen to the final result, it's better to get the option on if we record internally but only shorts records haha.
Thank you @Deaf Director if you can help us with that.
Woah thank you. I dont have an atomos v so the standby low res is a life saver for me. thank you dude. you are brilliant!
Glad I stuck with the Canon R5 and passed on the R5Crimped. Great video!
Great video, but have you found the battery life is improved also? Thanks.
Very interesting. I checked my settings and I already had lowers bypass turned on. I don't remember turning in on but it was. I use a Ninja V for recording 4K HQ. I haven't noticed a huge difference in quality since 1.4, but I did notice encoding h.265 wasn't as good. I think that lowers bypass might have come on with the firmware... I've since turned that off for my studio shoots, but turned it on for run and gun where I don't have the ninja. Good channel. I'll have to give you a shout out in one of my videos.
Ordinary filmmaker, so great to hear from you! I love your channel and really appreciate the time and commitment you give to bring us such great pieces of information. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day!
@@DeafDirector Thank you. I'm going to record a video at lunch time and will bring you up. I'm not going to retest what you did and recommend watch your videos and subscribe. May I use about ten seconds of your video with audio? I want to give people a sample of the work you do rather than just recommending they go visit you.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker You can absolutely reference anything you would like, I would be honored.
@@DeafDirector Thanks. I didn't realize I had standby lowers on since the update. I record 4KHQ - might be why the video didn't look as sharp with H.265 encoding. Turned it off for custom studio mode, but turned it on for manual shooting.
Nice info! Haven't noticed that menu, but it makes the R5 even better, as you said. Thanks for your great videos!
Great findings sir!!! Thank you very much for your testing and sharing 🙏
do the same test 4k HQ recording to find out how long it takes to heat up please , because if that will involve at least another 20 minutes of recording , wow !
I’m sort of inspired to try this with the R6, I only really use that camera with the ninja v and if I can get longer record timers there it might be pretty incredible.
The R6 can’t record internally and externally so I’ll be interested to see if there is a diff in quality when I hit the record button.
Make sure sd cards are removed or you will overheat. If you trigger record from ninja I don’t think turning low res on is safe due to recording lower res..
did you test it?
I just subscribed thanks to The Ordinary Filmmaker.
Awesome! What about crop mode? I have a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 APS-C lens on my R5 shooting 24 and 60fps in crop mode. In 24fps, there is no overheat but in 60fps, it still can overheat. I’m curious if this low res mode helps?
CONFIRMED!!! I have the Canon R5 and the 5.2mm VR180 lens and a Atomos Ninja V+. I used a Samsung EVO 870 1TB SSD and was able to record 8k RAW for 59 minutes (the capacity of the drive) and no overheating!
AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing the results. Have a great day!
I am not clear about one issue. If I do internal recording of the 4KHQ With Low Res Standby ON… do I get more recording time? Or only more non recording time ?
Hey Bryan, this will keep your 4KHQ actual recording time the same, but what it will do is not let you waste those precious minutes between takes. On a practical level this means on a shoot day, you should be able to run and gun using 4KHQ for much longer before it overheats. It has made a huge difference in how I can shoot on set. Thanks for the comment
@@DeafDirector thanks for the response and clarification. Keep up the great content.
@@DeafDirector do you have the same result recording 8K RAW internally, with no Ninja V? Same actual recording time but more non recording time? Thanks from Italy.
If I want to shoot 4k hq using my external monitor, should I turn off standby low res or keep it on?
If you are not recording internal and ONLY recording on the external monitor, turn OFF Standby Low Res, because the camera won't know to cut it off once you start recording on your Atomos. If you are doing this you can avoid overheating by setting your LCD screen to cut off after 3 minutes. The HDMI will still get the signal and this will greatly extend your ability to record with no overheating. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
Thanks for your content. Love your vidéo
Thanks for video! As always great job!
Brilliant bro 😎
I experience that Stand By low res drops the frame rate when I record with Ninja V.
If everything is set to 4k 60pfs and I have Standby Low Res ON the prores file will say its 60fps but will behave like 24fps in premiere pro.
Basically you cant slow the file down.
Have you checked this?
Did you ever solve this issue?
@@dustmicks1 Yes! I turned it off and now it records in 60fps in the atomos.
@@Juliochangvisuals so low res standby doesn’t really solve the over heating issues.
@@dustmicks1 no, you just sacrifice 60fps down to 24fps.
I did however buy a C70 and now Im so happy and issue free. Image is way better also
That is absolutely right and crashes one of my last shoots (4K no RAW). You see it nowhere and think you rec it with 50fps. After a lot of stress I found out that the "low res" function is the thing and this drops the frames. So do not use it when you need more than 24/25 fps !!!
Are you recording on an SD card internally while you record externally with the Ninja?
If I am shooting RAW I tend to only use the Atomos. For Non-RAW shooting I shoot internally and externally at the same time so I have a backup on set. Have a great day!
Atomos' video about setting for ideal recording says to disable standby low res.
I did have low res mode on once while recording externally to my Ninja V. I noticed in post (4K 60fps) that slowing it down to 40% on a 24fps timeline made the footage skip every frame. It was weird and unusable. So I turned off low res mode and then the Ninja V recorded fine. On my gimbal though, I don’t record external (too much gear, too heavy), so I’m interested in doing tests with this on and purely recording internal. I also shoot in crop mode so I can get a better 60fps quality.
@@pharmatographist same here. When You need more than 24/25 fps, these function sucks and drops frames while you rec with the Ninja V.
It's prores Raw right yo talking about ?
😎 great job
Why can’t we export 4k hq as raw to the regular ninja v
That would be amazing. I'm not sure, why they won't let you export 4KHQ as RAW (that would be a dream export option), so the cropped 5K RAW is what we have to play with. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
You should work for Canon
i'm confused haha I will watch it later at home
I’m still confused 🤦🏽♂️ low on low off low on low off ???
I'll be damned - wait so with external 4K HQ -> do you have to have a card internally to trigger the quality improvement or just use the internal button to trigger external recording?
I have the same question.
Same here
If you’re recording externally, you don’t need an internal card, you’d just hit record on the Atomos itself. I do this for weddings all the time (EOS R5 4KHQ or crop mode to external Atomos Ninja V). This allows you to bypass overheating and the 29:59 limit.
@@pharmatographist Thanks but that isn't what the video states. I'm aware of how external recording works as a general rule. The video states that the recording has to be triggered on-camera for the resolution to return to high res. So, the question is simply does a card need to be present for the camera to recognize that it should return to high-res from standby or will triggering it on-camera be sufficient without the card and the camera will trigger the recorder to start recording.
@@pharmatographist But if the camera is on "STANDBY: LO RES," will the HDMI output to the Ninja be in 4K HQ or in lower quality if you only trigger the recording via the monitor? Wasn't that the problem with the former "OVERHEAT CONTROL" menu option?
I thought 5k raw rec was only on the atomos plus
Atomos came out with an update for the orginal Ninja V that allows 5K RAW up to 30fps.You can check out my video on that here: ruclips.net/video/-m_hPkINC6A/видео.html
I tried shooting 8K Raw at 23.98 fps with Low Res ON and it overheated after 15 minutes (recording internally on a 512GB CFexpress Card) what do you think happened?
8K will always overheat quickly when doing internal recording. You will need to get a Ninja V+ external recorder in order to do unlimited 8K RAW.
I understand you, thank you
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I tried shooting 4K HQ at 23.98 fps with Low Res ON and it overheated after 11 minutes (recording internally on a 512GB CFexpress Card) what do you think happened?
High temperatures outside probably
I tried shooting 4K HQ at 23.98 fps with Low Res ON and it overheated after 11 minutes (recording internally on a 512GB CFexpress Card) what do you think happened?
Hey Nelson, having an external monitor will really help, and the big thing to realize is that Standby low Res will not increase the recording times, it will only mean that when you are NOT recording you are not losing those precious minutes. Although 11 minutes sounds very short. I would try it with another CF Express card to see if that makes a difference
I used a Sony 512GB CFexpress Type B TOUGH Memory Card, any recommendation ? Or you think that I have a issue with my new R5 ?