Kind of amazing to see a man born out of the 19th century, and trained by men from that time, laying out the elementary foundations of the most mind-blowing technology so far in the 21st century.
This is why it is so important for us to protect our legacy as a people and species to continue it and pay down the foundations for the next generations. Something the excessive amount of individualism today has lead to many of us forgetting.
@@3koozy in the spirit of generously correcting: "Warren Sturgis McCulloch (November 16, 1898 - September 24, 1969)" - Wikipedia. 1898 (year of his birth): 19th century 2024 (year of this comment): 21st century
Scientist: _smokes_ Scientist: Just found out smoking is bad for your body Public: Ok Public: Why are you smoking, are you stupid? Like cattle. Only that cattle probably has more empathy.
@@Reichstaubenminister LOL yes. But some scientists knowingly slow down their synapses which nicotine is known to do, to make dealing with us cattle more tolerable. It's like a CPU clocked at 3GHz having to interface with a 100MHz peripheral.
@@AlexKarasev really? Nicotine users are more angry. Nicotine raises blood pressure pretty significantly so long as you use it semi-frequently, plus it is one of the least sustainable buzzes with fastest growing tolerance.
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b oh, I don't argue that it's terrible, but as far as "more angry" we've to account for the selection bias. Those folks choosing to rely on smoking as a crutch, chances are, might have been even angrier without nicotine.
@@coreycox2345clearly yes. If he dies. His body no longer loves his grandchildren. If you believe in a soul, and the soul is producing the effect of love, that itself is a mechanism.
@@AnimalAstronautshow do you call it love of the game when it includes self elimination. I think that's low cognitive regard finding a way to express itself
Warren McCulloch was a psychiatrist, computer scientist, neurophysiologist, poet, and philosopher. He worked with Norbert Wiener to pioneer the new field of cybernetics, and is sometimes credited as a founder of artificial intelligence. He was also an accomplished experimental physiologist.
I think its more like a natural question. How could a machine love or fear of death if its only machine ? definetly he can respond that way . BUT DOES HE REALLY FEEL IT? I'm pretty sure that many scientist today arguing and cannot come to a conclusion. Something Unexplainable that we are alive. Something that cannot be pointed out. In my opinion, It remains a mystery and the purpose of life is life.
@@zulteonka I am surprised though how many smart scientists think they can upload the data in their brain to a machine and transfer their consciousness. Behaving like you are conscious and BEING conscious are totally different. We shouldn't take it for granted.
What a beautiful interview!!! I love the space that is given just to observe, rather than being constantly narrated to. I love the silence and simple facial expressions.
@@aaronnbroussard3108 It is to me. When asked if he thought machines could have emotions, instead of backing away he basically said - yes - if I can do it, it must be possible, therefore a machine, one day, could do it. This is a subject fraught with religious and superstitious argument and misunderstanding and yet he was able to cut straight through all of it and make his way directly to what I believe to be the correct answer - and he did all of this (by the looks of it) more than 60 years ago when machine intelligence was just a thought experiment and the machines were barely out nappies - very impressive intellect.
When he said he loves his family and because he feels that, he can make others feel it ...the expression on his face and the silence just made me feel like I am seeing a noble god slowly going rogue.
1 second in, I already love it because he’s not wearing a shirt. 45 seconds in, I love his brilliance! Seduced by mathematics is such a poetic statement.
If you please explain the "ahead of his time" part better. I was of yhe opinion that his contribution might have led to the state of that science today but... do indulge my request please that I might obtain information that I presently do not possess.
@@saabajoe Are you a bot? Becuase you sure sound like one lol. Ahead of his time in the sense that he foresaw how machines could reason like humans with no problem what-so-ever. Whereas, most folks during his time couldn’t even envision networked machines being a thing, let alone human level machine reasoning.
The analogy with anastomosis is insightful, because it demonstrates how biases may change which changes the larger output. He was way ahead of his time on many concepts and ideas
What an amazing video! Left me speechless! The most fascinating aspect of it is that all the things he said, are as valid, problematic, defendable or unknown today as they were back then. Some are just more relatable and materialized now.
Talk about being confident of the knowledge you have and the way you deliver it so that a mere mortal can understand it. Old scientists are a pure joy to listen. Nowadays in academics, it is all about the pursuit of money and fame.
This is an anthropological masterpiece. The architect of artificial life explaining his creation in the image of anastomotic river channels. After billions of years of tired evolution, a spark is lit and is captured for us to ponder in the strangest of times. 99.99% of the population does not understand that we stand on the precipice.
That, is a brilliant piece of media. Real genius versus a very bright person. You can hear the frustration and the patience. The doctor explained it quite well.
It is indeed wonderful to have this video interview of Warren McCulloch, a true pioneer in the linking the fields of mathematical logic and biophysics, a field from which computers to artificial intelligence has evolved. The mid-20th century was an extraordinary period of progress in this field that has been developing with increasing rapidity dependent on advances in technology such as the transistor, oscilloscope, and computers. It should be pointed out that the foundations of this field ultimately stem from George Boole's 'Laws of Thought' written a century earlier, a true milestone work that pieced together the mathematics of operational principles by which reasoning is performed, This fundamental work led geniuses such as Shannon and Turing to lay the foundations for what Norbert Wiener dubbed "Cybernetics". McCulloch certainly did not work alone in an ivory tower, he collaborated very actively with many key scientists such as Wiener, Pitts, Rashevsky, and Ashby, who were pioneers in interrelating the fields of neurophysiology, neuroanatomy, computing, biophysics and cybernetics.
Just a few musings on the history of this period....Oscilloscopes were not widespread in laboratories, for example during my first neurophysiology course we smoked kymograph drums to record muscle potential responses . Electronic computers at scale smaller that ENIAC were totally non-existent; Enrico Fermi managed to developed the first atomic fusion reaction using his slide rule and one of his colleagues actually turned to modifying the relay system in an actual pinball machine to serve as a computer for high energy physics calculations. We did our calculations using Friden calculators. I remember that transistors we were experimenting with had numbers like 1NP21. We were just getting used to adapting vacuum tube circuits for use in biological laboratories and I was overjoyed when P.E.K Donaldson's 1958 book "Electronic Apparatus for Biological Research" provided us for the first time a handbook having useful vacuum tube circuits for developing our research tools.
It is of historical interest to check out some quotes regarding transistors from Donaldson's 1958 book: "It would be unwise to predict that the transistor will completely oust the valve in electrophysiological or allied work; indeed the transistor is at present at a disadvantage compared with the valve...(at page 677)"..... "...With transistors occupying their present low level of importance in biological work, a full treatment involving all three configurations...(page 679)". Donaldson's book is of historical interest in respect to the effect of the development of technology on all aspects of society.
’To know what is a number a man may know - I’ve got this but what is a man that may know a number -that eluded me and I must settle for what the frogs eye told to frog’s brain.’ - He thought he could catch the human spirit (soul if you will) on a Petri dish? If so, he should have opted for theology after all.
The work done by McCulloch & Pitts was (still is) revolutionary. The leap from what was known then to their creation of the perceptron is just about as great a leap as Relativity was from what was known at the time when Einstein developed it. The pieces were all sort of there - but it just took the right mind(s) to see it all from a different perspective. Absolute genius.
he is the real man. I loves him because he knows who he is? he doesn't even want to plaster himself with clothes, it tells us that, "don't care about the world, be proficient in your work." world automatically comes to you and accept you as you are.
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I love the way he dresses, and I love the way he makes me doubt again about my recently acquired beliefs on spirituality and consciousness.
The real noodle baker in my mind is that one would only fail to see the compatibility of one's conception of the mind of God and the machinery of the mind of man in itself if one's concept of the mind of God was as yet inadequate. I first read his seminal paper, A logical calculus of the ideas immanent in nervous activity, now 7 years ago. If anything, seeing it as he did strengthened my wavering faith rather than shaking it. I don't mean to deliver some vapid argument about the complexity that necessitates a designer. At the time I recall feeling strongly a shade of Whitehead's process theology. "Still defective, still inadequate," as Pitts would admit, but also with understanding that this imperfection is *necessary* in the material world, in his understanding of theology. We are constantly becoming. The plan, so it seems to me, is for an infinite number of measurements to be taken. Somewhere in there, given infinite time, so I reasoned at the time, would emerge the Godhead, or if you like, the universe would "finally" know itself (at said limit, which in that line of reasoning is *not* inside time). Pitts was thinking: why indeed should a man know a number?
As an aside, I was particularly tickled by the polite but quite obviously disappointed response to the harebrained assertion that dinosaurs were "unimportant". The man of God in him thought "why would you say anything in creation was or is unimportant," having faith in the plan. The scientist and mathematician in him scoffed, knowing enough about nature to back that faith up.
@@Handles-R-Lame So what's wrong with that. People from Europe didn't rush there? Didn't have farms and new lifestyles? No capitalistic wonders? No commercialization of inventions? What is wrong with you? American Universities still rank on top. Research is happening like before. So..?
Refreshing! There have always been wise people who see further about possibilities than so many others. Warren was correct then and it is clearer to more people today. Indeed, it is clear.
Bless the Internet for allowing us to see this. I never imagined this founder of ann based ai like this. I hear and read his names since the 80s. Thank you for sharing
I wonder if Dr. McCulloch and his team can find out why people keeps getting “may of” and “may have” mixed up. Is this an indication of some kind of disability or disorder?
You're too young to realize people used to speak like this. And yes dress like this. He would be called eccentric. I'm pretty sure we all had an uncle like this.
how is it possible for an object like a number to exist (and what is it). how is it possible for an object like a human, who can perceive objects like numbers, to exist (and what is it / how does [the perception [of the number]] work).
His piercing, probing stare, betrays his minds extraordinary level of function and focus! And, his paraphrase of Newton's remark: I've accomplished much, because I've stood upon the shoulders of Giants. My paraphrase, much less elegant.
You can feel the inteligence of human mind poring trough is body language his eyes. We need more of this, get out of social networks, its killing the human creativity
Seems based more on logic than philosophy. There's a whole school of thought that philosophers are never aware of, which is that philosophy isn't actually useful or necessary. That it's all actually ingrained, and even animals blindly carry out it's highest tenets.
One the key qualities of great scientists in the past is that they specialized in many unrelated areas . Like chemistry, mathematics and computing mechanics
It was he who approximated a neuron's output signal as the dot product of 1) the connection strengths of its inputs and 2) the signal strength coming through each input, then ran through a step function (later altered to sigmoidal etc). because that model is so simple, it is so useful. `sig(dot(signal_strength, connection_strength))`
He kinda ignored the problem of consciousness there. For him, a man or a machine would be the same but I doubt that, the interviewer was actually dead on about the problem but somehow McCulloch didn't realize that. We clearly see that the ability to feel and suffer changes everything in the way consciousness is organized. AI may approximate our behavior but the current electronic-like systems can't feel anything.
@@En_theoHow do you know? Consciousness is believed to be an emergent behaviour. Feeling and suffering can be built in. Insects don’t feel pain, so are they machines?
It was that final phrase that did it. "Don't shake the table." Suddenly, he saw in his mind a table top, variably weighted at a thousand different points. The tilt of the table at any given moment reflecting a physical averaging of those variable weights upon it. Thus the collective wights 'made a decision' about the angle of the table. And there was Free Will inhabiting a 'machine.' That's why he looked into the distance after he said that, eyes widening slightly, and a smile beginning to play at the muscles of the right side of his mouth.
Science/fan fiction. He was just a little nuts. The way I saw it he was not able to come up with a witty clever response. So he resorted to making a weird face just so clueless people form fancy ideas on why
The camera was likely on the table, he didn't want to shake the image. Hes showing care for his offspring and you see that moment when he realises what he just did is the sort of caring instruction that will continue in the children of humanity, machine or otherwise. I'm glad at his profound happiness, what an amazing man.
I enjoyed watching western movies on sunday afternoon in my childhood. Now that i've become a young man, I enjoy listening this gentleman and Khrisnamurti in my spare time, especially on sundays.
I feel ashamed, I find interviews like this so interesting but have such trouble understanding what he is saying. I find myself pausing the video and thinking a lot. One thing I do know for certain is this man was way ahead of his time
No shirt, no shoes, just neuroscience
And cigarettes. Perhaps some calvados in the evening with some good music.
@@christopherneufelt8971nothing but net…neural net
@@christopherneufelt8971 Gauloises
No shirt, no shoes, all business.
No shirt, no shoes, no religion.
You can tell from his lack of clothes, this dude is a real one.
I bet Feynman would approve.
He believes in himself
His comfort matters more than anyone's opinion. Bro is enlightened
It's because he was soaked in theology.
@@aaa-gt8by😂
This guy was asked to put the shorts on for the interview.
Excellent assumption ❤😂
😂
lol. Nice.
I'm pretty sure he was freeballing anyway.
😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭
Willem Dafoe should play this guy in a movie
I was thinking the exact same thing!🤣🤣
well he's something of a scientist himself so....
Also looks like Steve Carrell
No , Jim Carrey
Or you know...someone actually Scots-Irish.
You know the talk is good when the guy calls mathematics "the game"
Wild
1:01
Based af
The game is the game.
Real recognize real….😅
This is a man supremely confident in his own skin.
I like your avatar. Are you French??
And he was proven right, wasn't he
Qui?
Nah. This is a man who has reached the age at which he doesn't give a crap. We all get there eventually. Frankly, I'm looking forward to it.
Nah, you just really aren't lol.
Kind of amazing to see a man born out of the 19th century, and trained by men from that time, laying out the elementary foundations of the most mind-blowing technology so far in the 21st century.
SHOWS, HOW CRUDE WAT GETS CONSIDERED AS THE CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY OF THE 21ST CENTURY ,IN REALITY ACTUALLY IS, JUST AS WELL THEN! ☝
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." - Isaac Newton
This is why it is so important for us to protect our legacy as a people and species to continue it and pay down the foundations for the next generations. Something the excessive amount of individualism today has lead to many of us forgetting.
20th Century*
@@3koozy
in the spirit of generously correcting:
"Warren Sturgis McCulloch (November 16, 1898 - September 24, 1969)" - Wikipedia.
1898 (year of his birth): 19th century
2024 (year of this comment): 21st century
4:05 "Neurons die on the order of thousands per day"
- takes a quick but satisfying drag of his cigarette
Scientist: _smokes_
Scientist: Just found out smoking is bad for your body
Public: Ok
Public: Why are you smoking, are you stupid?
Like cattle. Only that cattle probably has more empathy.
@@Reichstaubenminister LOL yes. But some scientists knowingly slow down their synapses which nicotine is known to do, to make dealing with us cattle more tolerable. It's like a CPU clocked at 3GHz having to interface with a 100MHz peripheral.
@@AlexKarasev really? Nicotine users are more angry. Nicotine raises blood pressure pretty significantly so long as you use it semi-frequently, plus it is one of the least sustainable buzzes with fastest growing tolerance.
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b oh, I don't argue that it's terrible, but as far as "more angry" we've to account for the selection bias. Those folks choosing to rely on smoking as a crutch, chances are, might have been even angrier without nicotine.
1,001 😂
"If I do it, there is a mechanism that can do it" Just perfect
It seems incorrect in some ways, @nathanchesworth4235.
@@coreycox2345 Why? We do it, so there's a mechanism to do it. No reason to assume that mechanism can't be replicated artificially
@@bobrandom5545 Love his grandchildren? :)
@@coreycox2345clearly yes. If he dies. His body no longer loves his grandchildren. If you believe in a soul, and the soul is producing the effect of love, that itself is a mechanism.
@@eviljohnnybravo7575 That's quite a yarn.
This man’s eye contact is unwavering
You can see his brain really going deep in his eyes
"I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle. Don't shake the table."
😂
That was Jim Carrey playing that role. One of the serious ones...
That's exactly right. It's watching us watch it...
@@chrismay2298
Yep its amazing
@@chrismay2298 especially the ending seemed scripted or especially surreal or phony. Just the sound of it. Was more like a movie.
I have more respect for this dude smoking a cigarette shirtless than all the suited up tech bros in silicon valley
They're doing it for the money he's doing it for the love of the game
@@AnimalAstronautshow do you call it love of the game when it includes self elimination. I think that's low cognitive regard finding a way to express itself
Tech bros also barely wear cloths. Take your respect back.
Tech bro…in a suit?
@@Izhc1 he was brought up by theologians, sounds quite the christian way
Warren McCulloch was a psychiatrist, computer scientist, neurophysiologist, poet, and philosopher. He worked with Norbert Wiener to pioneer the new field of cybernetics, and is sometimes credited as a founder of artificial intelligence. He was also an accomplished experimental physiologist.
He also invented nudism but the interviewer begged him put a pant.
@@En_theo😂
So was every Nazi scientist.
Whats it have to do with putting some damn clothes on when you have guests over for an interview ?
Oh please. These guys were just philosophers. They had nothing to do with the fake ai software company scams of today.
Looks like he was a stellar scientist but poor philosopher, and even worst theologian … kinda dangerous….a real prototype for a doctor Strangelove
I think the interviewer is also a genius. He asked exactly the right questions at the end.
I think its more like a natural question. How could a machine love or fear of death if its only machine ? definetly he can respond that way . BUT DOES HE REALLY FEEL IT? I'm pretty sure that many scientist today arguing and cannot come to a conclusion. Something Unexplainable that we are alive. Something that cannot be pointed out. In my opinion, It remains a mystery and the purpose of life is life.
@@zulteonka I am surprised though how many smart scientists think they can upload the data in their brain to a machine and transfer their consciousness. Behaving like you are conscious and BEING conscious are totally different. We shouldn't take it for granted.
@@kevinmcinerney9552 so you are basically surprised that scientists are smarter than you are…
That’s beauty of being human and human making a machine!! Otherwise people don’t need cigar to make their life!!!
@@JumpDiffusionfound the arrogant pseudoscientist ;)
Nerds were wild back then fr
can't be a genius without a bit of insanity
@@krejziks3398is that even true though?
@@krejziks3398 Where's the insanity tho?
@@chickenlover657in the eyes. He had that stare like he looked right through you as his mind wandered.
@@fantomas4935 That's just the way you see it. Which is fine, but contributes nothing to actual reality.
He who's cloaked in smoke doesn't need clothes.
😂😂😂😂 OMG
Smoke from me nose cover me like clothes.
Magnificent!! Absolutely!
This is how my Dad chills out. He was a VLCC oil tanker captain, not a scientist - but this guy clearly sails.
What a beautiful interview!!! I love the space that is given just to observe, rather than being constantly narrated to. I love the silence and simple facial expressions.
Yes!!
People he is playing God. That never is good.
Sebastian jew
@9:26 that moment he realized there is a camera , like "Wait, this is not for a radio show ?"
😂
Haha superb 😂❤
Poor thing…
Lol
"Don't shake the table."
Ahhhh this is a gem that must be preserved for ever
He (his manner of speach and thinking) reminds me of Alan Watts
His voice is a heavy smoker’s voice, maybe that makes the similarities even more pronounced?
same generation
Would it shock you that this particular video isn't real but Ai generated
True I will start listening to their podcasts and interviews more..
@1nvisibleAcropolisehhh not overrated.. he has nice teachings but I agree I never heard of this man but I have of Alan
Wow, that guy had something intensely super human about him.
I’ve got nothing to add to all the brilliant comments, just that I love this guy. This was a real treat!
Listen to this is so relaxing... The background sounds of nature, the kids, genuinely talking.. missing those day's.
what a Dude ! Such speed, clarity and simplicity of thought... and I've never heard of him before this video - will learn all about him now...
ditto
Judging by the time's of the comments we might all be getting this at the same time.
Is that clear 🤔😁👍
@@aaronnbroussard3108 It is to me. When asked if he thought machines could have emotions, instead of backing away he basically said - yes - if I can do it, it must be possible, therefore a machine, one day, could do it. This is a subject fraught with religious and superstitious argument and misunderstanding and yet he was able to cut straight through all of it and make his way directly to what I believe to be the correct answer - and he did all of this (by the looks of it) more than 60 years ago when machine intelligence was just a thought experiment and the machines were barely out nappies - very impressive intellect.
@@julesgosnell9791
No I'm sorry i didn't mean nothing by that i was just saying what he kept asking that guy he kept saying is that clear 🤔😏👍
8:26 That was sweet, seeing the affection he has for those kids light up on his face
When he said he loves his family and because he feels that, he can make others feel it ...the expression on his face and the silence just made me feel like I am seeing a noble god slowly going rogue.
1 second in, I already love it because he’s not wearing a shirt. 45 seconds in, I love his brilliance! Seduced by mathematics is such a poetic statement.
Emphysema too? And delusion? And he dammed a stream to make a lake -- damn the people/animals downstream. Grandfather of Musk.
When this was filmed not wearing a shirt was not looked upon the same as today. Society has dramatically changed since then.
@@Anthony-hu3rj The heck you care? He was free to do whatever he wants on his own property and with his own body.
@@Anthony-hu3rj"Let's make some assumptions so I can pretend that me disliking him is objective and rational"
That's odd, I had it paused and hit play after reading your comment and he immediately said it haha.
You can tell his budget went towards thinking about neural nets and not towards clothes.
And cigarettes
What a fascinating man , some who never lost that childlike interest in the world around him
Back when smoking was just tobacco and not pesticide.. what a happy man...I haven't seen a man this happy since I've been born
A man born too soon and about a century ahead of his time. Amazing.
Actually, he was totally of his time.
If you please explain the "ahead of his time" part better. I was of yhe opinion that his contribution might have led to the state of that science today but... do indulge my request please that I might obtain information that I presently do not possess.
@@saabajoe bitches say that when someone publishes a breakthrough of some sort
@@saabajoe Are you a bot? Becuase you sure sound like one lol. Ahead of his time in the sense that he foresaw how machines could reason like humans with no problem what-so-ever. Whereas, most folks during his time couldn’t even envision networked machines being a thing, let alone human level machine reasoning.
@@kuakilyissombroguwimachines don’t reason with humans. Machines don’t reason.
Unusual interview attire. That's academic freedom right there.
The analogy with anastomosis is insightful, because it demonstrates how biases may change which changes the larger output. He was way ahead of his time on many concepts and ideas
Can you elaborate this point please? For someone who knows nothing about biology and is coming from the ai angle and is familiar with deep learning
What an amazing video! Left me speechless! The most fascinating aspect of it is that all the things he said, are as valid, problematic, defendable or unknown today as they were back then. Some are just more relatable and materialized now.
Talk about being confident of the knowledge you have and the way you deliver it so that a mere mortal can understand it. Old scientists are a pure joy to listen. Nowadays in academics, it is all about the pursuit of money and fame.
His look is very familiar for many who have Irish dads past the age of 55.
This is an anthropological masterpiece. The architect of artificial life explaining his creation in the image of anastomotic river channels. After billions of years of tired evolution, a spark is lit and is captured for us to ponder in the strangest of times. 99.99% of the population does not understand that we stand on the precipice.
this
Beautifully put
I dont think so, it has been shown that all ai models converge towards a hard limit
yeeeah. deeep. no one ever thinks about anything except merlins like this dude
Genius, to be able to have that level of foresight.
That, is a brilliant piece of media. Real genius versus a very bright person. You can hear the frustration and the patience. The doctor explained it quite well.
One of the best RUclipss I have watched. Especially the last few minutes. Saved to watch again, and again every now and again.
Casual Friday used to be more informal
It is indeed wonderful to have this video interview of Warren McCulloch, a true pioneer in the linking the fields of mathematical logic and biophysics, a field from which computers to artificial intelligence has evolved. The mid-20th century was an extraordinary period of progress in this field that has been developing with increasing rapidity dependent on advances in technology such as the transistor, oscilloscope, and computers. It should be pointed out that the foundations of this field ultimately stem from George Boole's 'Laws of Thought' written a century earlier, a true milestone work that pieced together the mathematics of operational principles by which reasoning is performed, This fundamental work led geniuses such as Shannon and Turing to lay the foundations for what Norbert Wiener dubbed "Cybernetics". McCulloch certainly did not work alone in an ivory tower, he collaborated very actively with many key scientists such as Wiener, Pitts, Rashevsky, and Ashby, who were pioneers in interrelating the fields of neurophysiology, neuroanatomy, computing, biophysics and cybernetics.
Just a few musings on the history of this period....Oscilloscopes were not widespread in laboratories, for example during my first neurophysiology course we smoked kymograph drums to record muscle potential responses . Electronic computers at scale smaller that ENIAC were totally non-existent; Enrico Fermi managed to developed the first atomic fusion reaction using his slide rule and one of his colleagues actually turned to modifying the relay system in an actual pinball machine to serve as a computer for high energy physics calculations. We did our calculations using Friden calculators. I remember that transistors we were experimenting with had numbers like 1NP21. We were just getting used to adapting vacuum tube circuits for use in biological laboratories and I was overjoyed when P.E.K Donaldson's 1958 book "Electronic Apparatus for Biological Research" provided us for the first time a handbook having useful vacuum tube circuits for developing our research tools.
It is of historical interest to check out some quotes regarding transistors from Donaldson's 1958 book: "It would be unwise to predict that the transistor will completely oust the valve in electrophysiological or allied work; indeed the transistor is at present at a disadvantage compared with the valve...(at page 677)"..... "...With transistors occupying their present low level of importance in biological work, a full treatment involving all three configurations...(page 679)". Donaldson's book is of historical interest in respect to the effect of the development of technology on all aspects of society.
’To know what is a number a man may know - I’ve got this but what is a man that may know a number -that eluded me and I must settle for what the frogs eye told to frog’s brain.’ - He thought he could catch the human spirit (soul if you will) on a Petri dish? If so, he should have opted for theology after all.
I saw this on TV years ago and have been looking for it since.
What a wonderful person. So glad he was able to strongly apply himself in this existance. Too many geniuses often fall by the way side...
The work done by McCulloch & Pitts was (still is) revolutionary. The leap from what was known then to their creation of the perceptron is just about as great a leap as Relativity was from what was known at the time when Einstein developed it. The pieces were all sort of there - but it just took the right mind(s) to see it all from a different perspective. Absolute genius.
It's nice seeing someone with your own body type on screen. 😊
In America. All look like me. BIG BOY!
As humanity continues on, the more knowledge we acquire, the less answers we have!
he is the real man. I loves him because he knows who he is? he doesn't even want to plaster himself with clothes, it tells us that, "don't care about the world, be proficient in your work." world automatically comes to you and accept you as you are.
I love the way he dresses, and I love the way he makes me doubt again about my recently acquired beliefs on spirituality and consciousness.
The real noodle baker in my mind is that one would only fail to see the compatibility of one's conception of the mind of God and the machinery of the mind of man in itself if one's concept of the mind of God was as yet inadequate. I first read his seminal paper, A logical calculus of the ideas immanent in nervous activity, now 7 years ago. If anything, seeing it as he did strengthened my wavering faith rather than shaking it. I don't mean to deliver some vapid argument about the complexity that necessitates a designer. At the time I recall feeling strongly a shade of Whitehead's process theology. "Still defective, still inadequate," as Pitts would admit, but also with understanding that this imperfection is *necessary* in the material world, in his understanding of theology. We are constantly becoming. The plan, so it seems to me, is for an infinite number of measurements to be taken. Somewhere in there, given infinite time, so I reasoned at the time, would emerge the Godhead, or if you like, the universe would "finally" know itself (at said limit, which in that line of reasoning is *not* inside time). Pitts was thinking: why indeed should a man know a number?
As an aside, I was particularly tickled by the polite but quite obviously disappointed response to the harebrained assertion that dinosaurs were "unimportant". The man of God in him thought "why would you say anything in creation was or is unimportant," having faith in the plan. The scientist and mathematician in him scoffed, knowing enough about nature to back that faith up.
America was a ground for such people once. Ingenuity
Ahh. Here we go again folks.. lets all put on those rose tinted glasses again, shall we? 🕶
@@Handles-R-Lame So what's wrong with that. People from Europe didn't rush there? Didn't have farms and new lifestyles? No capitalistic wonders? No commercialization of inventions? What is wrong with you? American Universities still rank on top. Research is happening like before. So..?
@@madrasman8883
Lmao
On top? Top of what? You guys have to go broke just to study. Your country is a joke.
Time to wake up.
Tell me you are voting for Kamala, without telling me you are voting for Kamala.
@@3Cheese42😂😂
Refreshing! There have always been wise people who see further about possibilities than so many others.
Warren was correct then and it is clearer to more people today.
Indeed, it is clear.
beautiful footage
Bless the Internet for allowing us to see this. I never imagined this founder of ann based ai like this. I hear and read his names since the 80s. Thank you for sharing
“Don’t shake the table...” - A fitting epitaph
He’s the real deal .. no distractions with clothes etc . Just in quest of science
Most of modern scientists hide behind clothes, no wonder the world is falling apart
Great video! Thanks for posting!
"Don't shake the table...." That guy was so deep in thought. He may of conceived something ahead of his time.
I wonder if Dr. McCulloch and his team can find out why people keeps getting “may of” and “may have” mixed up. Is this an indication of some kind of disability or disorder?
I wonder what table it is...
@@constitution1550😂😂😂😂
@@mangoeater5624Foosball
@@mangoeater5624The periodic table
That was the machine, folks. We've crossed into a new realm here...
Best comment I've seen all week! God bless :)
You're too young to realize people used to speak like this. And yes dress like this. He would be called eccentric. I'm pretty sure we all had an uncle like this.
@@sharonreitinger5989 Not much of a `dress` here
This has justified RUclips.
'Don't shake the table' - McCulloch
😂
This guy is something of a scientist himself.
"what is a number that a man may know it, and a man that he may know a number". Mind blown. That's deep stuff.
English is not my first language. Could you explain it to me?
Thanks in advance.
@@samphyllobates4765 im interested in seeing what responses you get
how is it possible for an object like a number to exist (and what is it).
how is it possible for an object like a human, who can perceive objects like numbers, to exist (and what is it / how does [the perception [of the number]] work).
@@YouuRayy..consciousness
@@hankhill3126that's not very helpful, as we don't understand consciousness well
Utterly fascinating.
His piercing, probing stare, betrays his minds extraordinary level of function and focus! And, his paraphrase of Newton's remark: I've accomplished much, because I've stood upon the shoulders of Giants. My paraphrase, much less elegant.
Perfect definition of an eccentric scientist also known as a genius..
The way he foresees what's to come... amazing.
A mix of Huxley and Orwell, slap on Dafoe's mad eyes and you've got the most intriguing character!
You can feel the inteligence of human mind poring trough is body language his eyes. We need more of this, get out of social networks, its killing the human creativity
So much hermetic knowledge being shown, its amazing and true and philosophical
Seems based more on logic than philosophy. There's a whole school of thought that philosophers are never aware of, which is that philosophy isn't actually useful or necessary. That it's all actually ingrained, and even animals blindly carry out it's highest tenets.
@@enermaxstephens1051 Logic is a subset of philosophy.
@@PinkFZeppelin Other way around.
@@enermaxstephens1051no, he was right
@@enermaxstephens1051 religious belief being instinctual is an amazing idea how can I get deeper into this idea
One the key qualities of great scientists in the past is that they specialized in many unrelated areas . Like chemistry, mathematics and computing mechanics
I remember this guy.... This is the guy that used to hang on the side of the 7-11, when I was kid, selling acid.
Did u purchase any (acid)?
😭😭😭
That is based
That laughter at the end and his face will haunt me forever 💀
Is this the whole thing or a fragment of a longer production?
Have you ever seen The Matrix?
This is one smart man and teacher.
Wow! Thanks for the upload!
That shows his dedication that he doesn't even care about himself its just pure science
Shades of Alan Watts.
Its my house, I'll wear what I want. Youre lucky I have this on.
A man that has no effs to give is legit. I mean he didn’t even care to put a shirt on for an interview. Respect!
This just gets better every time I see it…Is that clear.
Studying neural nets right now, this is incredible to me.
My wife's great uncle was. Prof Ross Ashby, he wrote a book called a design for the brain,
And also on cybernetics.
Another notable and extremely brilliant friend of my favorite social philosopher/scientist -> Gregory Bateson. Thank you for posting this video.
It was he who approximated a neuron's output signal as the dot product of 1) the connection strengths of its inputs and 2) the signal strength coming through each input, then ran through a step function (later altered to sigmoidal etc). because that model is so simple, it is so useful. `sig(dot(signal_strength, connection_strength))`
He kinda ignored the problem of consciousness there. For him, a man or a machine would be the same but I doubt that, the interviewer was actually dead on about the problem but somehow McCulloch didn't realize that. We clearly see that the ability to feel and suffer changes everything in the way consciousness is organized. AI may approximate our behavior but the current electronic-like systems can't feel anything.
@@En_theoHow do you know that anyone feels, except for you?
Other perspective can be that you ignored or misunderstood his response
@@maynardtrendle820 waste of a question
@@En_theoHow do you know? Consciousness is believed to be an emergent behaviour. Feeling and suffering can be built in. Insects don’t feel pain, so are they machines?
Amazing to think he was only 23yrs old at the time
😂😂
My grandpa was the person off camera, lighting his cigarette.
Cool!
The last part of this interview is pure poetry in action
What a badass nerd. Awesome video.
Mathematics as "the game"
Brilliant, thank you for sharing this
Even if you meet this guy in person you’ll still hear this 0:27
This is great. Thanks for posting.
What a fine mind.
Thank you for uploading this.
It was that final phrase that did it. "Don't shake the table." Suddenly, he saw in his mind a table top, variably weighted at a thousand different points. The tilt of the table at any given moment reflecting a physical averaging of those variable weights upon it. Thus the collective wights 'made a decision' about the angle of the table. And there was Free Will inhabiting a 'machine.'
That's why he looked into the distance after he said that, eyes widening slightly, and a smile beginning to play at the muscles of the right side of his mouth.
Science/fan fiction. He was just a little nuts. The way I saw it he was not able to come up with a witty clever response. So he resorted to making a weird face just so clueless people form fancy ideas on why
The camera was likely on the table, he didn't want to shake the image. Hes showing care for his offspring and you see that moment when he realises what he just did is the sort of caring instruction that will continue in the children of humanity, machine or otherwise. I'm glad at his profound happiness, what an amazing man.
I had to scroll too far for a comment not about his nudity.
Tilt of table and averaging weights! Clever, very clever indeed, brindlebriar
Thank you for sharing this! Great video
@0:40 Never thought I would hear someone say "I got seduced by mathematics"
You didn’t, that man isn’t real
@@emalynicole1006 he's AI? 🙃
@@hibernianperspective6183 actually I might be wrong lol there’s just something so strange about this video
@@emalynicole1006 Why do you just say random stuff?
@@byte-bg4ob because I can?
Thank you again, dear RUclips algorithms Gods.
He has nothing to hide. He is the real deal
I enjoyed watching western movies on sunday afternoon in my childhood. Now that i've become a young man, I enjoy listening this gentleman and Khrisnamurti in my spare time, especially on sundays.
I feel ashamed, I find interviews like this so interesting but have such trouble understanding what he is saying. I find myself pausing the video and thinking a lot. One thing I do know for certain is this man was way ahead of his time
Dude stared right into my soul through time and medium... Aura