I love the way Fong Sifu moves. This is a master who has done the movements a literal million times, just in the first few years. Wing Chun knows how to fight and train! I learn something every time I meet a brother from this art.
yea...their master's seriously hurt some folks in his younger days.. Wing Chun standard is weapon's art. The hand-to-hand style is to give a general understanding of body movement, hand trapping, retaliation, and striking (stab, slash, chop); so when applied to knife or staff uses you know what to do and can amplify your output.
Sifu Fong is showing Baat Jaam Do technique at 1/50th the speed he could be showing it! Wow 😯 Seeing him do it slow enough to comprehend is a rarity! Great footage! Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@kingeternal_ap Wing Chun is taught to exchange information. I learn from my Wing Chun brothers every time I meet them, and I suspect, once in a while, they might even learn something from me. 😊 All martial arts should adopt this principle, and not be shut off to practical techniques from any system.
"Full resistance! Full resistance!" You sound like an MMA cultist. Dumb force-against-force is why those guys tire out so quick. Prizefighting is a sport. Real martial arts happens in the street with no round, no rules, and no weight classes.
It seems to me that these weapons would really shine in a crowded drinking den, or on board a ship. On the battlefield? Perhaps not, but then neither did the rapier. Different swords for different purposes, I suppose.
That doesn't really happen these days, but, in the past, yes-death and serious injury was sometimes the result of feuds between schools. The new way is better, but it also allows a lot of unqualified people to teach martial arts. If you're interested in this stuff, make sure you find a qualified teacher like Master Fong.
Wing Chun has its flaws...and also its strengths...but you can clearly see in this video how similar this is to Kali which is deadly when using knives.
@@seattleflyboard3807 Sifu also has Kali at his academy, so you are seeing some mixing. He encourages using multiple arts since each has their strengths and weaknesses.
@@zato6226 Luckily, it's about the martial artist, not this or that art. It's not the weapon, but the person wielding it. In my experience, it usually comes down to who has trained the hardest, most correctly, over the longest period. Even in my own excellent sword art, most practitioners don't put in the time, or didn't get it from a true master, and that will catch up with them if it's ever put to the test. Find a good teacher, train hard. That's all one can do.
It's a pressure control drill. The master is not taking this extremelly seriously, this is almost fun for the sake of fun. You can see the student(who is also a master, i guess) has a nice understanding of the basics, but fails to predict and react to the pressures exerted by the knifes.
@@kingeternal_ap That's what happens when a student learns from their master. My first year on straight sword, when I'd badger my teacher into showing me something "real", I'd get immediately disarmed. 😊
Idk. I see this guy cutting himself a lot by accident doing those disarms. Sometimes the blade he does disarm flies back into him. And he's not always checking the other blade, which could fly in for a stab. Seems too high risk.
Sifu Fong in Atlanta is a really good teacher and is knowledgeable in multiple arts.. The guy he is working with is Kevin Lee, who seems to be becoming a good instructor in his own right (plus a really good hearted guy in general). I highly recommend studying with Sifu or most of his students! Sadly I no longer live close enough to do so regularly.
If you're just a novice then no, but there's a reason why repetition is taught in all martial arts so your body just reacts. If you notice the sifu, his expertise with the butterfly swords is beyond thinking and he just does it. If you are familiar with a weapon then you dont even have to think, granted butterfly knives take a greater amount of skill to use than your average longsword or spear. You can give a novice a longsword or spear and they would be more lethal than somebody that is a novice with the butterfly swords.
@@VTSifuSteve Ok "Sifu Steve". What are your credentials? Who do you learn sword from? Because I was trained the best, and I know the real thing when I see it because I was taught to see. Master Fong is the real deal.
i love Fong sifu when it comes to hand-to-hand combat but this knife video is utterly unrealistic, in real life the knife attack is fierce and they absolutely will not follow your "lock" or circular motion..., if you want to see what real knife attack is, search for "prison sewing machine", that's how real people with real intention to hurt each other do, continuously stab with front hand as a barrier, ignore damage on themself, their only intention is to hurt the other more!! when it comes to knife it is not a civilian matter anymore, it is life or death situation, you will get stab and hopefully end the fight before you bleed out (aka stab the other more and he bleed out before you do).
Very nice technique but you need to demonstrate the effectiveness at combat speed. I also practice HEMA so I test all my skills in full combat scenarios wearing full protective gear. There is a big difference between what works in theory and what works in the real world.
Full combat wearing full protective gear is as close as you can get with Out Really being Real especially with a cutting slashing large knife. As a simple cut can end things. Its more about ho or and acknowling a type of cut or hit Vs a bashing competition. The way some of the modern knights compete. Thats about as close as it gets.
Trust me when I say that there is full speed combat practice in this school, lol. I saw a friend get a broken hand while using padded weapons and wearing lacrosse gloves, that doesn't happen without full speed or strength intent.
I love the way Fong Sifu moves. This is a master who has done the movements a literal million times, just in the first few years. Wing Chun knows how to fight and train! I learn something every time I meet a brother from this art.
I love this man .....it takes dedication to be this fluent with a weapon
yea...their master's seriously hurt some folks in his younger days..
Wing Chun standard is weapon's art. The hand-to-hand style is to give a general understanding of body movement, hand trapping, retaliation, and striking (stab, slash, chop); so when applied to knife or staff uses you know what to do and can amplify your output.
This is the best bart Cham Dao how-to-video I've seen on the internet !!!!!!!!
Yep.
it’s escrima
@@EH45896 "We're all one big family". 😊
My first time seeing a butterfly sword disarm. 😮
yes, because when i disarmed you it was too fast to see
Francis Fong has great skill with Swords. That shows many, many hours of dedication to this subject. A true Master.
Sifu Fong is showing Baat Jaam Do technique at 1/50th the speed he could be showing it! Wow 😯 Seeing him do it slow enough to comprehend is a rarity! Great footage! Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
That was amazing!
The sifu is the real deal, very beautiful drills!
I remember Fong Sifu, back in the 80’s!
What a fantastic display of what these weapons are capable of!
That double trap technique was cool
Amazing super
Incredible skills
Thank you.Thank you so much. The detail was very good. Two Thumbs up
Mi piace la semplicità del maestro. Complimenti davvero.
It reminds me of my kali training.
That's a great validation. Both are great arts. Passed down by masters who used them for real, not "reconstructed" from medieval manuals by amateurs.
I always wondered if Kali and King Fu influenced each other
@@investlikeawarriorno. But is art called kuntao silat. Where is it influenced by both styles
Omg amazing thank you shifu!!!!
Coś niesamowitego!!!😁
Boi do theses videos are underated this is almost criminal.
The disarming reminds me alot of Kali
Elements of Eskrima and trap fighting . . . Interesting 🤔
😱😱😱 complimenti Sifu ottimo Wing chun
No capisco italiano, dude! Looks like you're saying, "Compliments, Sifu. Optimum Wing Chun!"
He obviously was trained in serrada system of Eskrima...the concepts do apply to Baat Cham Dao
Knives be knives anyway.
But i do see some chi sao applications scattered around and i love it
Only wing chun hand technique applied to Bart cham dao ! He says the hands technique « tan sao to bong sao etc... »
@@kingeternal_ap Wing Chun is taught to exchange information. I learn from my Wing Chun brothers every time I meet them, and I suspect, once in a while, they might even learn something from me. 😊 All martial arts should adopt this principle, and not be shut off to practical techniques from any system.
Excelente!!!
This isn't full pressure testing but it a lot better training than most of the forms
"Full resistance! Full resistance!" You sound like an MMA cultist. Dumb force-against-force is why those guys tire out so quick. Prizefighting is a sport. Real martial arts happens in the street with no round, no rules, and no weight classes.
Why would I spin my arm around a sharp blade to lock it.
Any slow step by step video of Baat Jum Do moves for beginner. I have some experience of Forms and dummy but not the knives Thanks for showing
It seems to me that these weapons would really shine in a crowded drinking den, or on board a ship. On the battlefield? Perhaps not, but then neither did the rapier. Different swords for different purposes, I suppose.
Great skill on display. However, it is not entirely clear to me whether some of this would actually work in a bladed fight like this.
徼械都把刀刃對自己了
Where can we buy the plastic bart cham dao? Someone can support?
Y’all are gonna have an action murder mystery adventure to avenge your master in the case of his death, right?
That doesn't really happen these days, but, in the past, yes-death and serious injury was sometimes the result of feuds between schools. The new way is better, but it also allows a lot of unqualified people to teach martial arts. If you're interested in this stuff, make sure you find a qualified teacher like Master Fong.
nicenicenice
If wing chun weapon's effectivity is as effective as most of wing chun's empty handed effectivity, I will say I am exceptical.
Wing Chun has its flaws...and also its strengths...but you can clearly see in this video how similar this is to Kali which is deadly when using knives.
@@seattleflyboard3807 "ALL " Martial Arts have their own flaws.
@@seattleflyboard3807 Sifu also has Kali at his academy, so you are seeing some mixing.
He encourages using multiple arts since each has their strengths and weaknesses.
@@zato6226 Luckily, it's about the martial artist, not this or that art. It's not the weapon, but the person wielding it. In my experience, it usually comes down to who has trained the hardest, most correctly, over the longest period. Even in my own excellent sword art, most practitioners don't put in the time, or didn't get it from a true master, and that will catch up with them if it's ever put to the test. Find a good teacher, train hard. That's all one can do.
Why this boy don't use second hand? One knive has a weight about 1kg. Please, show such magic movements with real knives. Good luck :)
It's a pressure control drill. The master is not taking this extremelly seriously, this is almost fun for the sake of fun.
You can see the student(who is also a master, i guess) has a nice understanding of the basics, but fails to predict and react to the pressures exerted by the knifes.
@@kingeternal_ap That's what happens when a student learns from their master. My first year on straight sword, when I'd badger my teacher into showing me something "real", I'd get immediately disarmed. 😊
Idk. I see this guy cutting himself a lot by accident doing those disarms. Sometimes the blade he does disarm flies back into him. And he's not always checking the other blade, which could fly in for a stab. Seems too high risk.
Is there a butterfly swords courses in nyc?
Love this! How do i get in touch with this Master?
Shawn Scorpion his name is Francis fong he is in the Atlanta Georgia USA area
Sifu Fong in Atlanta is a really good teacher and is knowledgeable in multiple arts..
The guy he is working with is Kevin Lee, who seems to be becoming a good instructor in his own right (plus a really good hearted guy in general).
I highly recommend studying with Sifu or most of his students! Sadly I no longer live close enough to do so regularly.
@@MrFirstcause As long as you practice what he taught you faithfullly, and go back when you can for correction, you'll do fine. Keep training!
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ok, but what if the opponent decides to fight back?
great skills, compliment… but do you think that on a real attack with two knives you have time to think about all this?
The point is to train it so much you only act not think.
No. You are correct. ....This is cool stuff, but it is play.
Just, redirect, open, and strike. With any weapon and fight the prime objective is to redirect an attack to open someone then strike.
If you're just a novice then no, but there's a reason why repetition is taught in all martial arts so your body just reacts. If you notice the sifu, his expertise with the butterfly swords is beyond thinking and he just does it. If you are familiar with a weapon then you dont even have to think, granted butterfly knives take a greater amount of skill to use than your average longsword or spear. You can give a novice a longsword or spear and they would be more lethal than somebody that is a novice with the butterfly swords.
@@VTSifuSteve Ok "Sifu Steve". What are your credentials? Who do you learn sword from? Because I was trained the best, and I know the real thing when I see it because I was taught to see. Master Fong is the real deal.
道具黑色,你们还要穿黑色,我就服了
you must be the only one on the page complaining about this. Black matching black seems pretty perfect. unless you've got an eye issue that is....
i love Fong sifu when it comes to hand-to-hand combat but this knife video is utterly unrealistic, in real life the knife attack is fierce and they absolutely will not follow your "lock" or circular motion..., if you want to see what real knife attack is, search for "prison sewing machine", that's how real people with real intention to hurt each other do, continuously stab with front hand as a barrier, ignore damage on themself, their only intention is to hurt the other more!! when it comes to knife it is not a civilian matter anymore, it is life or death situation, you will get stab and hopefully end the fight before you bleed out (aka stab the other more and he bleed out before you do).
It's meant for an era where people used swords. For little knives it is of course not ideal
Easy when your opponent is standing like a dummy.
It’s much easier to type on the keyboard.
Actually, Khan Loo, it's much easier when your opponent attacks like an idiot b/c they "learned" sword from amateurs on the internet.
Very nice technique but you need to demonstrate the effectiveness at combat speed. I also practice HEMA so I test all my skills in full combat scenarios wearing full protective gear. There is a big difference between what works in theory and what works in the real world.
Full combat wearing full protective gear is as close as you can get with
Out Really being Real especially with a cutting slashing large knife.
As a simple cut can end things. Its more about ho or and acknowling a type of cut or hit Vs a bashing competition. The way some of the modern knights compete. Thats about as close as it gets.
@@johnbland1585 the moder knight bashing fest are BS, in hema thay have difrent competions in protective gear. Set of rules is very important aspect.
Trust me when I say that there is full speed combat practice in this school, lol.
I saw a friend get a broken hand while using padded weapons and wearing lacrosse gloves, that doesn't happen without full speed or strength intent.
This is a demonstration of techniques, not full speed sparring practice.
Effectiveness depends on the martial artist.
@@MrFirstcause I would absolutely love to see a video of full speed BCD sparring with gear. Have they posted anything on youtube?
!!!???
This is utter nonsense
这八斩刀不好看也不实用,还不如我用铁尺
CraPYp! TRY Using the real thing.FALSE TEACHINGS!
Getting not stabbed by this is easy, just don't make enemies
Think of them as an extension of ur arms not as weapons
Ayyy, that's Kevin Lee!!
What happens when opponent is not just trying to touch sifus blades and Starts to want to hit you in realtime?
It's unbelievable what he does. So much skill!!
Amazing! But now do it with internet!