Yall STOP treating this like regular cycling and Skipping the start. The most important splits happen early in these races and you keep missing them it is RIDICULOUS. We don't want highlights we want to see it.
Would have been interesting to see if the starts were as ridiculously fast paced and fractured as they normally are on Zwift. You can lose a race within the first two minutes
Will be interesting to see what Jason can do on a pro team in 2022 out on the road. And Mat saying he has a "rowing background" is a bit of an understatement I would say. Rowing is still his main sport as he prepares for the 2021 Olympics.
I don't think he'd succeed in a real race among pro cyclists, but who knows? Much older Hamish Bond won the commonwealth games and demolished 1-hour national race, while weighting 93 kg! Top rowers are different kind of monsters.
What’s the story with Anna van der Breggen and Annemiek van Vleuten both riding for Denmark (Danish flags at 12:25). Maybe Netherlands is trying to spread the wealth?
To make a broadcast like this really interesting at all, viewers need much more information displayed on screen. Map of the course, gradient, rider weight + wattage, more pain cave footage etc etc etc. Just like this it is horribly boring.
Tom Pidcock described in commentary as a cyclocross rider who was "up there" at the last world cyclocross champs.... yeah, silver medallist behind MVP!
What happened to Van Den Brande @1:44:25 ??? he attacked and @1:44:37 he disappeared ? deconnection ? i feel sad for him... @1:45:57 (1min20 later) it says he is 1min18 behind then @1:46:16 (so 19seconds later) it says 1min36 behind... not fair for him !!!!!! clearly a deconnection
Because it's an esport not an IRL outdoor ride. Going to blow your mind they're also not all on the same trainer. *edit* they are on the same trainer, that definitely helps. I'll stand by the statement it's a game, who's the best at play the game wins.
Is the "screen display director" a bot? Why TF do they hide datas (Watts, BPM, course/elevation) to show only ugly identically frozen heads avatars with just names and their w/kg ??? The stupidest show you can find on any screen in 2020... DATAs ARE A HUDGE PART OF ESPORT !!! PLEAAAASE ALWAYS FULL DATAS, THIS IS NOT GREYHOUND RACING
Nice for the winners, but it's a pity, that the race coverage seems so boring. You could do every camera angle, getting close to the riders, showing race starts and every single attack … but commentators are talking about dropped riders and we don't even see them? And we don't see riders breathing hard on climbs or putting their power into conext of what they are capable of. Guess they have Zwiftpower and everything is available. Very sad that race coverage, works better in Real life like the TDF where you see dropped riders or chasing groups.
Why was Celia Hansen of Sweden given 3rd place when it is very clear in the video and replay that she came across the line in 6th place behind both Americans and Langvad?
It's been an issue from day 1. In one of the tdf zwift stages up the radio tower. Ovett crossed the line first in coverage and also what he saw in game, yet he was placed second. The problem is latency with riders connections.
@@schorschischorsch8088 the video counts to the viewers that they're attempting to attract... It's pretty hard to make it a legit event if you can't even trust what you're seeing.
@@MrBJPittI get that Zwift keeps people engaged with cycling/racing but it'll never be taken seriously as a "sporting event" until that's a non-issue. It defeats the whole purpose of watching it and having live commentary if what we're seeing and being told isn't necessarily true/accurate.
@@AndrewDHDavidson it's not really a big issue given it's not a lottery, it's not like you or I can win a race because of this issue. How is it any different to a road race, where a rider by no fault of his own doesn't get the cleanest run in the sprint? Let's face it, many tdf sprints are 80% luck when it boils down to top 3 sprinters. The eracing world champs are top class in real life, hell the top3 are world class in both fields. Gigante just smashed the aussie national road series, and won last years Aussie national road race against Mitchellton Scotts finest.
Dear Zwift. It was a real missed opportunity to add crowds to Watopia for the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. I know this is the year of the Pandemic but it would of been nice to see some atmosphere. -sincerely ruined the Immersion.
you know guys it's simple you do the same race for real and you will see all top 10 will not be in top 10 XD you call this world championships... where are the controls.. and doping controls. to much cheater and to many problems with the draft in this game.
It's absolute bullshit that pro riders were selected to race the eports world champs just cause they are pro riders. There should be a uci esports points system just like we see in the road scene otherwise you are just taking the opportunity away from people who train and race on zwift and these riders are essentially the riders that deserves an opportunity like this!!
Oh dear... really need to show the riders sweating their lungs out, THAT is the entertainment. you let us watch a lack luster cartoon showdown, then repeated it about 5 times!! WTF!! sack the producer!
@Matt - I am not sure this gal (beauty lady announcer) was who we needed? Can we get less vanity and more experience in the announcer Matt? I felt awkward with this gal... Just saying...
Hi, that gal would be me. I've worked in cycling for over a decade, on screen, podcast and print. Totally cool with you not liking my work, just thought I'd flag up that I may have been there for reasons other than 'vanity'. Hope you enjoyed the action all the same! 👌
"...not expected to win..." well he has got the Alpe du Zwift KOM. ^^ Congrats to Jason Osborne
He was my pick.. -kom up alp,400w 80m on neo, 800w+ 60s sprint, did kom 1;24 in hes jeans at brewdog bar.. hes om another lvl
Yall STOP treating this like regular cycling and Skipping the start. The most important splits happen early in these races and you keep missing them it is RIDICULOUS. We don't want highlights we want to see it.
@Vicki Peterson the live coverage didn't start till the ladies were 17km into the race
Completely agree. I can't understand why anyone would choose to skip the start. There is quite literally no reason to.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Jason Osbourne! Was für ein unfassbares Finale! Wahnsinn!!!
Tja, und dann ist wohl seine 'Manipulationsbox' ausgefallen
1) what happened to the start?
2) why don't you keep the gradient and map on the screen?
3) why not show us the same screen as in the game?
Very cool ... well done for everyone and the winner!
Lightweight rowing :-)
Would have been interesting to see if the starts were as ridiculously fast paced and fractured as they normally are on Zwift. You can lose a race within the first two minutes
so so true
do all the "Ride On's" make the kit less aero?
1 ride on= 1 gram. So it can make a difference if you get loads.
@@SuperYobo plus all the ride on's could boost performance psychologically ... so it may be a wash : )
Ugh, is it really that hard to start coverage from the start of the races? Every single Zwift broadcast...
Will be interesting to see what Jason can do on a pro team in 2022 out on the road. And Mat saying he has a "rowing background" is a bit of an understatement I would say. Rowing is still his main sport as he prepares for the 2021 Olympics.
I don't think he'd succeed in a real race among pro cyclists, but who knows? Much older Hamish Bond won the commonwealth games and demolished 1-hour national race, while weighting 93 kg! Top rowers are different kind of monsters.
What’s the story with Anna van der Breggen and Annemiek van Vleuten both riding for Denmark (Danish flags at 12:25). Maybe Netherlands is trying to spread the wealth?
good racing but needed more pain cave footage along side riders attacks/efforts needed
I've seen some very high socks there. UCI, wake up!!
To make a broadcast like this really interesting at all, viewers need much more information displayed on screen. Map of the course, gradient, rider weight + wattage, more pain cave footage etc etc etc. Just like this it is horribly boring.
great Job Jason!
Is it mentioned at all that he's a pro rower who's won world championships lol?
Only hearing this now late into the broadcast. :(
Damn impressive doing so good on the bike while training for olympics next year!
Rob Hatch. Fucking legend. Could listen to that guy talk all day.
Siuch a shame we didn’t see the starts. Still, great spectacle 👍🏼
They should give power ups only to the front 10 or % to give an incentive to push or lose out.
it's so funny that a rower won the UCI cycling world champs!
Rowers are really versatile athletes. Cycling is also part of the training.
@@xXAlmdudlerXx I'm an ex-rower, competed at 2 world champs and trained like crazy so loving that a rower won 😉
@@richardsteele-gray7473 Oh then you know a lot about this sport. Just sounded like you were surprised
Tom Pidcock described in commentary as a cyclocross rider who was "up there" at the last world cyclocross champs.... yeah, silver medallist behind MVP!
Could Cory William win a World Championship in cycling as a person of color, much like Major Taylor almost a century ago? Can't wait.
What happened to Van Den Brande @1:44:25 ??? he attacked and @1:44:37 he disappeared ? deconnection ? i feel sad for him...
@1:45:57 (1min20 later) it says he is 1min18 behind then @1:46:16 (so 19seconds later) it says 1min36 behind... not fair for him !!!!!! clearly a deconnection
Jay Vine also had a dropout..... such a shame.
Did they find Nemo? LOL. That was hilarious.
so when can we mortals get the zwift rainbow jersey replica ;)
Imagine that's the best take they've recorded with the president of the UCI
idea for a power up - bear chase! hit it and the game shows a bear chasing you down the road!!
Oh i hope these team / country jerseys become available.
How do you get live data from all riders to be able to have such custom overlays on your stream? the mobile API? something reserved to Zwift ?
12 W/K for 2+ minutes...absolute monster
He held 12w for only a couple of seconds!
Why no Swiss jersey? 😢
Van Vleuten and Van der Breggen were shown as being from Denmark. They're Dutch, from The Netherlands. Zwift Data quality, hmmm.
Why the hell are power-ups allowed in this?
Because it's an esport not an IRL outdoor ride. Going to blow your mind they're also not all on the same trainer. *edit* they are on the same trainer, that definitely helps. I'll stand by the statement it's a game, who's the best at play the game wins.
@@Locus2021 they were all on the same trainer, on a tacx neo 2t.
its a way of adding tactics. only those 2 powerups were available so every rider had the same chance. Some just used it better than others
Is the "screen display director" a bot? Why TF do they hide datas (Watts, BPM, course/elevation) to show only ugly identically frozen heads avatars with just names and their w/kg ??? The stupidest show you can find on any screen in 2020... DATAs ARE A HUDGE PART OF ESPORT !!! PLEAAAASE ALWAYS FULL DATAS, THIS IS NOT GREYHOUND RACING
Nice for the winners, but it's a pity, that the race coverage seems so boring. You could do every camera angle, getting close to the riders, showing race starts and every single attack … but commentators are talking about dropped riders and we don't even see them? And we don't see riders breathing hard on climbs or putting their power into conext of what they are capable of. Guess they have Zwiftpower and everything is available. Very sad that race coverage, works better in Real life like the TDF where you see dropped riders or chasing groups.
I am by no means fan of this esport cycling thing. But give them some time, they will figure out what works and what doesnt and will improve.
Why was Celia Hansen of Sweden given 3rd place when it is very clear in the video and replay that she came across the line in 6th place behind both Americans and Langvad?
I've read that it is because its not not the video that counts. there may be differences in broadcasting so the algorithms result counts
It's been an issue from day 1. In one of the tdf zwift stages up the radio tower. Ovett crossed the line first in coverage and also what he saw in game, yet he was placed second. The problem is latency with riders connections.
@@schorschischorsch8088 the video counts to the viewers that they're attempting to attract... It's pretty hard to make it a legit event if you can't even trust what you're seeing.
@@MrBJPittI get that Zwift keeps people engaged with cycling/racing but it'll never be taken seriously as a "sporting event" until that's a non-issue. It defeats the whole purpose of watching it and having live commentary if what we're seeing and being told isn't necessarily true/accurate.
@@AndrewDHDavidson it's not really a big issue given it's not a lottery, it's not like you or I can win a race because of this issue. How is it any different to a road race, where a rider by no fault of his own doesn't get the cleanest run in the sprint? Let's face it, many tdf sprints are 80% luck when it boils down to top 3 sprinters. The eracing world champs are top class in real life, hell the top3 are world class in both fields. Gigante just smashed the aussie national road series, and won last years Aussie national road race against Mitchellton Scotts finest.
Aside from the commentary the footage was much better in spectator mode on Zwift .
Il y en a des champions du monde a 5 watts / kilos sur votre Plateforme ; parfois même en classe B 😂😂 Zwift c est fini pour moi
It is Colombia not Columbia.
Dear Zwift.
It was a real missed opportunity to add crowds to Watopia for the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.
I know this is the year of the Pandemic but it would of been nice to see some atmosphere.
-sincerely ruined the Immersion.
Why wasn't this streamed live? 🤦♂️
It was on euro sports
@@JTS21 I don't support broadcasters who charge you and then show you advertisements. Especially when it's as excessive as it is on Eurosport.
@@JDPhader ok but it was streamed live. on eurosport
Fair enough 🤷
Great that is
Tires howling gets super annoying to the listener
Thanks for the feedback! We will pass it onto the team 👍
Lol there u go rowing is superior
Nah, as a rower, that guy’s just a freak 😂
@@davidhofmayer1031 anyone at the top of their sport is a freak
you know guys it's simple you do the same race for real and you will see all top 10 will not be in top 10 XD
you call this world championships... where are the controls.. and doping controls. to much cheater and to many problems with the draft in this game.
It's absolute bullshit that pro riders were selected to race the eports world champs just cause they are pro riders. There should be a uci esports points system just like we see in the road scene otherwise you are just taking the opportunity away from people who train and race on zwift and these riders are essentially the riders that deserves an opportunity like this!!
Probably something to do with WADA. I’d think that all of these are in a some kind of national anti-doping programme
Oh dear...
really need to show the riders sweating their lungs out, THAT is the entertainment.
you let us watch a lack luster cartoon showdown, then repeated it about 5 times!! WTF!!
sack the producer!
What nonsense, women kicking between 8-10 W/kg for almost 2 minutes. Either cheating or unrealistic
COLUMBIA? 🤦♂️
@Matt - I am not sure this gal (beauty lady announcer) was who we needed? Can we get less vanity and more experience in the announcer Matt? I felt awkward with this gal... Just saying...
That gal is Orla Chennaoui, one of the most experienced cycling broadcasters out there. She did a great job
Hi, that gal would be me. I've worked in cycling for over a decade, on screen, podcast and print. Totally cool with you not liking my work, just thought I'd flag up that I may have been there for reasons other than 'vanity'. Hope you enjoyed the action all the same! 👌
Boring like the real races...