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David mate, Mongolia is massive. Many times larger than your own country. It’s only small in regards to population and even then not ‘tiny’. They have vegan restaurants in its capital and the people there are slowly becoming more and more aware of veganism. Cringe comment man.
It's difficult for people with autoimmune disorders, eating disorders, food allergies, sensory issues, people living in a food desert, those who are unable to cook, and those who struggle to absorb supplements. The amount of ableism and classism in the vegan community has to stop!
@@eyebrowdimension It's a scientifically proven fact that 100% of people claiming such excuses would not have any problem at all on a vegan diet. The silliness of your argument being underlined when if someone was "unable to cook", then they'd be unable to cook meat too, so what are you going to do, throw chunks of raw steak on the floor, & allow the individual to just chew on them? Veganism started in the North of English in the final year of WWII, when food imports were near impossible, by a working class, conscientious objector who was on half pay because of his ethical stance. Are you really suggesting that anyone in the West today is facing harsher conditions now?
12 years vegan, perfect bloodwork, no supplements, not a multi millionaire with a team of private chefs like this actor. People at the highest level of privilege making up excuses for harming animals to please their tastebuds is monsterous.
Many people can't do well on veganism despite access to all resources. It is not a viable approach to health for everyone. You know this, and get over it
@@SSStofu008 I take b12 and d supplements…there’s nothing wrong with supplements…and I get yearly blood tests to make sure my vitamin levels are in the healthy range
Being defiicient in B12 iodine and vitamin D is just a lack of supplementation and very cheap and easy. These are core supplements. You did not do your homework... Iron is more complex. Most people should be fine by eating lentils regularly. Most of the time (not saying that was your case) being deficient in iron is a result of poor diet choices...
@@YaYippieYeah You say the person did not do his/her homework but that person says it was all correctable in a vegan way. I think there is a misunderstanding.
@@YaYippieYeah People didn't have the same resources in the seventies as there are today & often those resources (in public libraries e.g.) were horribly outdated. B12 was only discovered like 3 decades earlier & no one gave a crap about D3, when no one even told pregnant women to stop smoking till the early seventies. Times were different 45 years ago. You can't expect people to have better knowledge than even doctors back then did.
Same here. I was having some brain fog last summer, took a constant source of omega 3 for a couple of weeks. All was gone. I guarantee RD jr was fating. And juicing, with extreme low calorie intake
@@YaYippieYeah - I did do my homework. I've even blogged about it and had vegan doctors highly respect my work. After 25 years of being vegan, I discovered I was deficient in B12. When I was younger, and ate high quality out of my veganic garden, I didn't supplement so much. Now that I'm a senior citizen, I supplement heavily. I was still found recently to be iron-deficient. But they're just comparing me to meat-eaters. I feel fine. I have tons of energy. I take a an iron supplement once a week, all corrected. No need to torture animals. I am fine with taking supplements. Nonvegans take supplements, because they eat fortified foods and they eat animals that were given B12 supplements. As we age, it seems it is more difficult to get or process some vitamins. I am highly deficient in Vitamin D even though I take high doses daily. It might be an aging thing. Anyway, I feel fine. I have no diseases. Never been to a hospital. All my tests are perfect, except that I am low in blood tests on certain nutrients.
I've worked on it for decades, you younger people need to keep working on the difference between a vegan and one who eats a plant-based diet. I don't have the social media accounts any more to do it.
You would think. I take lots of supplements, and yet still found deficient in Vitamin D, even though I take mega doses daily. As we age, shit happens. Glad it's all good for you!
@@TheVeganPoet1 Be aware you are flirting with danger taking those Vit D megadoses, they contain toxic ingredients like anticoagulant. I agree, just go out in sun, you need so little per week. Aging has nothing to do with it. Those deficiency tests are so unreliable.
@@mikethats4thebirds600 - I go outside. But I've had a couple skin cancers, so not so much. I do go out and garden, walk the dog. It is far from enough for me. I used to get all my Vitamin D from being a sun-worshipper. Things change. Can't make blanket statements for all people.
He goes through the trouble of getting blood work done but he won’t go through the easy task of finding out what plant sources will help improve his blood work. Lazy.
yea im convinced it's the social pressure that got to him. He wants to be able to eat the same things as his friends and family. He probably doesn't like being the odd one out.
Joaquin Phoenix is probably the only one. He's also gone to slaughter houses. He's been vegan since 3 I believe. Also, Bryan Adams the musician has been vegan for over 30 years.
Very smart -- you can ONLY get the healing benefits from the sun, not in a jar of steroid hormone pills made from sheep's wool and containing rat poison, an anti-coagulant called cholecalciferol.
As long as we beat around the bush with animal rights, there is no real meaning to the cause. We seem to rally concern for certain animals who are in the minority while 90 billion animals are slaughtered per year without the same concern.
I know this is just an anecdote but the two vegetarian women that I've dated in my life were the absolute sweetest most caring best Partners I've ever had
I’m tired off those celebrities like Miley Cyrus and others oh I’m 🥑 and then become peshpetarien sorry if I spelled it incorrect. They have so much money and resources to stay vegan
I always speak about health because one of our biggest obstacles is getting people to understand that you don't need animal flesh to be healthy, lots of people believe animal flesh is essential to health so they won't even listen to anything else.
I'm 8 years vegan and never done blood check never calculate what to eat. When I get sick in the future, I cant say its because of veganism. It was because of my diet and eating animal products wouldn't saved me anyhow. And thanks for any upcoming suggestions but I'm just surviving can't be bothered with calculations and doctors.
or, possibly, his agent told him "only some one percent of your fandom is vegan, as for the non-vegans they can be pretty vocal in their disdain for people who try to limit the amount of animal deaths. So now either you put that sausage in your mouth or I'm gonna ask Chris Pratt to replace you in IronMan 25.""
It could’ve surely all been correctable and could’ve been done vegan. We can say he wasn’t ever vegan but can’t be sure. Feels a bit ‘no true Scotsman’.
lol I became vegan when I was already married. Good point not easy. But my husband was a big meat eater now he is a peshpeterian . Hope we can get further
@@tgram4894 Hardest thing about being vegan is seeing other vegans claim you need synthetic supplements to stay alive. That's all just BS from animal agriculture & pill pushers.
All my long term vegan friends are having issues (in old age) with Vitamin D. We stopped getting a lot of sun (skin cancer) and because of age and not enough sun, Vitamin D is an issue. Vegans must supplement with Vegan Vitamin D, and that's more of an issue than B12 which is so easy, as we need so little. I need to supplement A LOT of Vitamin D.
Agreed that vitamin D is a concern but everyone in the northern hemisphere should supplement vitamin D at the very least in the winter months, not just vegans. Same with B12, over 60s & many non- vegans should supplement too. I'm sure you know but K2 & mg are important with high vit D supplementation 💜
@@hannahmitchell87 - Yes, I know about K2. I'm very well researched. I'm 66 and I heavily supplement with high quality supplements. I didn't when I was younger. I've read that 75% of Americans are Vitamin D deficient. All I know is the 4 seniors eating vegan in our household, and my friends in another household are all Vitamin D deficient. Elderly seniors, who may not get enough sun - must supplement 2,500 IU daily. Most people eat fortified foods; which means they take supplements. I don't have an issue with supplements. I'm vegan for ethical reasons. I became vegan when people said "you will die" - it was never about me or my health. But as it turns out, I'm much healthier than most people my age.
@@TheVeganPoet1 Vitamin D contains the anti-coagulant cholecalciferol found in RAT POISON, which makes them bleed to death, which is why they also say to take Vitamin K, a blood clotting drug. These supplements are toxic. And the sun does NOT cause skin cancer! You can safely absorb sun before 10am and after 3pm for just 10 minutes a day. Synthetic supplements are toxic garbage, including B12.
@@TheVeganPoet1 completely agree 👍 I don't have an issue with supplements either, any more than a non-racist would. So many arguments out there to rebutt when it usually just boils down to an unwillingness to change
@@TheVeganPoet1 Sorry, not true at all. I'll be 70 this year, been vegan since 1991 and never took supplements. I go out in the sun about 3 times a week. You're depending on bogus testing designed to find deficiency. Those Vitamin D are actually toxic drugs that can't duplicate the sun.
Robert is a book of excuses. You couldn't have been vegan to begin with if you were not doing it for the right reason. I went vegan for the animals but the benefit on top of that was it was good for my health as well.
I love how 'deficiency' seems to be one of the fan- favorite cop-outs to just immediately jump back into funding animal abuse again as quickly as possible. "Hey, I might be slightly deficient in B12... AHH, MUST IMMEDIATELY JUMP BACK INTO EATING MEAT, YES! FLESH MEANS ME GET B12 YES AHH ME NO WORRY OF DYING ANYMORE!!!" I used to be kind of meh of how other vegans would bash people for these kinds of things as harshly as they would, but now, I kind of get it. It truly is a very unevolved, caveman way of thinking. I almost feel bad for them. (I don't, considering they're harming animals for these choices, but I almost do.)
That's not how you stay healthy, running to clueless doctors for useless tests! You eat a variety of real whole foods from the garden with a daily staple of home-cooked/soaked legumes, fruit, and leafy greens/vegetables. SO SIMPLE.
Good Topic to bring on to a Vegan show! Good on Stephen as well but tbh at his age I can't really see him going full Vegan; I think he may have been veggie for May have been 20+ years...
If someone chooses to pay for animals to be harmed, then that isn't a purely personal choice - because it impacts on someone else. I've seen people mistreat dogs, and I've always spoken up for the dog. If I had just shrugged my shoulders and said "it's up to him if he wants to do that" then that would have been a cop out. Animals need us to speak up for them.
@@user-wv8ju3dw8s that's a choice you make ..not everyone is abusing animals, there's all types of things going on both good and bad in every sector ..that's life
@@user-wv8ju3dw8sIf a sentence starts with "If you would see..." there's already a 99% chance that it's a bullsh*t comparison. People care even if they're not extremists
@@garlic_greed Speaking up if you see someone causing unnecessary harm to an animal isn't comparable with speaking up if you see someone causing unnecessary harm to an animal? Right. Got it.
@@garlic_greed you mean criticism? persons who exploit, oppress, enslave and demand violence toward others need to be criticized and held accountable for their actions. agree or disagree?
I find the "It doesn't work for me" argument disrespectful. It's not meant to work or not work, it's a moral decision!! What do you expect? Just eat differently so you stay healthy within a plant based diet
Pescatarian is better.. hopefully he doesn't go back to eating meat.. i mean.he wouldn't if he cared.. His way of doing it was obviously flawed.. but it's still better to do something than nothing
1. You choose veganism to prevent unnecessary harm to animals. 2. You take care of your health in any way possible with the best guidance and support so that 1.can continue The notion that there is a universal solution is unrealistic and the claim that the plant-based diet is ineffective for some people is unfounded because it implies that it is a very limited diet when fact is no one has explored every version.😊
@HarveysWorkshop Medical professionals advise non-vegans to take supplements. They strongly advise taking B12 unless you are confident in obtaining it from fortified foods. Therefore, how can it be considered restrictive if the one vitamin is now covered?
@@educational-101 it is restrictive as you cut out the most available and nutrient dense food. You look at India where they just eat 3.78kg/yr of meat on average and you can see how high their child malnutrition and B12 deficiency rate as even compared to neighboring even poorer country like Pakistan where meat consumption is 18.6kg/yr.
@HarveysWorkshop The comment does not provide any source or evidence for the claim that India has a high child malnutrition and B12 deficiency rate compared to Pakistan. In fact, the available data shows that both countries have a high burden of malnutrition and B12 deficiency, but the prevalence and trends vary depending on the indicator and the population group. For example, according to the Global Nutrition Report, the prevalence of stunting (low height-for-age) among children under 5 years of age was 37.6% in Pakistan and 34.7% in India in 2016. The prevalence of wasting (low weight-for-height) among children under 5 years of age was 7.1% in Pakistan and 17.3% in India in 2016. The prevalence of underweight (low weight-for-age) among children under 5 years of age was 28.6% in Pakistan and 33.4% in India in 2016. The prevalence of anemia among women of reproductive age was 41.3% in Pakistan and 53.1% in India in 2016. The prevalence of B12 deficiency among adults was 39.6% in Pakistan and 47% in India in 2017. Therefore, it is not true that India has a higher rate of child malnutrition and B12 deficiency than Pakistan in all aspects. Just to add, this is not a valid or credible argument against vegetarianism or veganism. It is based on inaccurate, outdated, and incomplete data, and it ignores the multiple and interrelated factors that affect the nutritional status of children and adults in India and Pakistan
@@educational-101A study in two urban settings found 6.8% of Pakistani male and female adults aged 46+10.5 years were vitamin B12 deficient. Meanwhile Reports suggest at least 47% of the Indian population suffers from low B12 levels in the body and only 26% of the population may be vitamin B12 sufficient
No. It's not. People are quitting for health reasons, plant based alternatives are decreasing (except the dairy alternatives which are still on the rise), and plant based businesses are forced to include meat due to the cost of living crisis. A vegan world may be nice and ideal, but it's not realistic as it invalidates indigenous cultures and disabled people who can't go fully vegan for a variety of reasons from autoimmune disorders to sensory issues. Factory farming is horrible but there are other options such as regenerative farming, strong animal welfare policies, and dismantling capitalism.
Let's stress test your ideas -- well, the ideas you've heard elsewhere and are spreading around without considering them very deeply. About your take on veganism, commerce and capitalism: The meat and dairy industries do not operate under capitalism; they would not exist in current form without government subsidies. In the US, it's to the tune of more than $37 billion. In the UK it's a similar story. Plant foods, by contrast, receive one percent of that. If meat, dairy and eggs weren't so subsidized they'd be totally unaffordable for most people. I'm not sure where your views on "dismantling capitalism" fall under this current rubric of government welfare that props up an entire industry. That's already socialism by any definition, so try again. About this idea that veganism would somehow "invalidate indigenous culture." How exactly would that happen? Are the Inuit of Greenland going to be "invalidated" if the law prevents them from hunting reindeer... from helicopters as they currently do? Ridiculous. Would you defend the practice of female mutilation to prevent the "invalidation" of the Native American Embera of Colombia? Shall we look the other way when the Dani or some other indigenous people of West Papua and New Guinea cannibalize each other? Absurd. There are many more examples but I hope you see the point. Preserving traditions that are cruel and violate rights are not cause to preserve culture -- nor would this be any more of a threat to indigenous people than any other law, tool adoption or modernization. Most indigenous cultures are under threat due to clearing forest for animal Ag, so if you don't like it, go vegan. This leads me to respond to another spurious statement you made about "regenerative farming" and "strong welfare." Regen is a myth. Show me the studies that demonstrate anything beyond a temporary improvement that lasts beyond 10 years of carbon capture or does not require 1.5x the land, or shows improvement over rewilding of pastureland. There isn't enough land to farm that way, period, full stop. Besides, it does nothing to negate the rights violation of shooting an animal in the head or slitting his/her throat at one fifth his/her natural lifespan. Now, you mentioned autoimmune diseases. Which ones exactly do you think improve with animal foods according to the literature? Because the most common ones I am aware of all show amelioration with a whole food, plant based diet. Lupus rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, type 1 diabetes, Graves' disease, IBS, Crohn's, psoriasis, celiac disease -- all have studies which show the benefit of plant based foods over animal ones. I am not aware of ANY non-rare disease that is improved by consuming animal foods over plant based. (And don't send me some anecdotal reports for carnidiots on RUclips. That's not evidence.) In terms of sensory issues, it isn't the animals' fault that little Jimmy's mom fed him mac and cheese and chicken nuggets since birth and now he won't eat anything else. Hardly a justification for the continued rights violations of billions of land animals and trillions of marine animals every year. No, we're not quitting veganism. I've been for 14 years, and neither I nor any decades-long vegans I know would ever betray animals because veganism is not a diet; it's an ethical stance against animal exploitation. It's the realization that animals are not food. It's the acknowledgement that animals have rights due to their ability to feel pain, suffer and embody a subjective experience like you or any protected animal. Most vegans I know would continue to be vegan even if it meant poorer health -- which, when properly planned, offers what is most likely superior health. Bonus. You are correct about one thing: practicality -- because let's face it, most people don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. But lab meat and dairy will develop and eventually change the world. It will happen quickly, once it reaches critical mass. People may not be ethically vegan but at least the murder and rights violations (and so much suffering) will stop. I hope you think a little more deeply about the ideas you hear and spread. It harms animals and makes you sound rather pat -- which I doubt are your intentions. @@eyebrowdimension
@@dountoothersWow! Ableism! Of course, I saw that coming! Having sensory issues or being autistic is not their fault either! In fact, there are many people who WANT to be vegan! But can't because of their disability!! The ableism and classism in the vegan community runs so deep, at least 90% of vegans are some form of ableist and classist! You're right that government subsidies are what make animal products more accessible and affordable, but that is no excuse to be classist. Instead of attacking people with disabilities, consider changing the system first and unlearning your ableism. But the issue here is that many plant based alternatives contain 5 out of 8 most common food allergens, which can make alternatives inaccessible for people with food allergies or autoimmune disorders. Many of the vegan alternatives and options in restaurants contain gluten, which makes veganism difficult for people with celiac disease. Until cultured animal products become more available, consider your privilege, unlearn your ableism, and stop judging the book by its cover.
Nonsense. You show me in the literature where someone with autism or some such disorder must consume animal products. There are plenty of protein options out there that don't include allergens. It is probably exceptionally rare for someone to be allergic to all vegetable protein -- so rare that it could never justify the mass murder, torture and exploitation of 80 billion land animals and trillions of marine animals. Classist? For your information, black people of lower income account for the greatest percentage of vegans in the US, and it's cheaper to eat vegan according to a recent study. Your arguments are shit. Stop trying to frustrate people trying to help animals. @@eyebrowdimension
@@dountoothersFor your information, not everyone is from the US. Veganism can be cheap in some areas, it is not cheap or accessible in every area. Your privilege is showing. Expecting everyone to go vegan is ableist. We can only do so much to reduce harm as possible, but that's still not enough. Unlearn your ableism and stop attacking disabled people!
26:50 Insert *_prisoners meme_*_ Big guy asking small guy: _*_"I killed a man & you?"_*_ , & the jailed activists replying: _*_"I freed defenceless fHarm animals from torture & certain death"_*_ , & the big murder guy slowly sliding away from the small (but fierce, when it comes to their basic convictions) activist guy_ here.
He really is damn if he does and damn if he doesn’t. We don’t know his health or diet. We don’t know what steps he took to make this decision. And He runs a coalition to save the planet.
The commenter who supports animal testing for human drugs and treatments is likely going to also say that he happily eats animals because they are not even remotely like humans.
It's also not good to blindly trust what ex vegans say about health. A lot of what they say is wrong and goes against science. Why can't vegans think about caring for animals too? How is that being full of oneself to try to care for others, like animals? Vegans did help with health too. Check out the doctors and the bodybuilders on Plant Based News and Lifting Vegan Logic. Many nonvegans bully or force on vegans too. There's people who have been vegan for decades or are athletes. Many nonvegans eat a lot of junk and pretend to care about health when it comes to veganism. Junk food is deficient in nutrition. Many people don't want to be vegan cause they like the taste of animal products. So more vegan alternatives and lab meat helps.
Not to mention a lot of them are also very ableist and classist. I'm sick of vegans telling disabled people that they're making "excuses" or they're selfish for putting their own needs first!
The first two times I went onto a plant-based diet I came off it again because, like you, I "thought first of my health". I tried again, but with a higher fat content, and it has been great. It isn't hard to get it right. I had simply been eating a badly-planned version of a plant-based diet. No vegans criticized me for jumping on and off the diet, but if they had, and if I'd then tried to blame my non-veganism on them for hurting my feelings, then that would have been pathetic.
@eyebrowdimension, a vegan, told me that if I was a vegan, I wouldn't have Neurofibromatosis 😂😂 but I'm in groups with people who are vegan and have Neurofibromatosis.
It was roo difficult for him, if he can't even get it right with his resources, what chance does the average person have? Eat Meat, Not Too Little, Mostly Fat
Thank you, but no, thank you. Here in Southeast Asia there are Buddhist monks who live well into their nineties, and spend in a year what a Hollywood celebrity would spend for a meal. It can be done.
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I’d much rather remain a non vegan than a vegan
Amazing how STUPID those vegans are.
I like the Metallica inspired merch. Have you considered a Vegan Journey design?
David mate, Mongolia is massive. Many times larger than your own country. It’s only small in regards to population and even then not ‘tiny’. They have vegan restaurants in its capital and the people there are slowly becoming more and more aware of veganism. Cringe comment man.
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Being vegan is really difficult for selfish people
Unfortunately, no supplementation has been invented to cure selfishness yet.
@@jonahwhale9047 maybe one day
My thoughts exactly!!
It's difficult for people with autoimmune disorders, eating disorders, food allergies, sensory issues, people living in a food desert, those who are unable to cook, and those who struggle to absorb supplements. The amount of ableism and classism in the vegan community has to stop!
@@eyebrowdimension It's a scientifically proven fact that 100% of people claiming such excuses would not have any problem at all on a vegan diet. The silliness of your argument being underlined when if someone was "unable to cook", then they'd be unable to cook meat too, so what are you going to do, throw chunks of raw steak on the floor, & allow the individual to just chew on them?
Veganism started in the North of English in the final year of WWII, when food imports were near impossible, by a working class, conscientious objector who was on half pay because of his ethical stance. Are you really suggesting that anyone in the West today is facing harsher conditions now?
RDJ could have just hired a vegan chef and nutritionist.
Literally millions of resources
@@tylerwhitney3443 hundreds of millions**
Go look at his net worth lol
He wasn’t vegan. It’s not about diet. I’ve been vegan for 15 years now.
Classic no true Scotsman fallacy. Pure cope.
Please provide your address soon can send you a blue ribbon award and a complimentary IDGAF cookie.
Sad life. You must be as thin as a toothpick.
@@erinsymone1645He owns a cricket farm .
Cope
@@julienfroidevaux1143 wut?
12 years vegan, perfect bloodwork, no supplements, not a multi millionaire with a team of private chefs like this actor. People at the highest level of privilege making up excuses for harming animals to please their tastebuds is monsterous.
That's great - 30 years vegan myself, never any supplements, and I quit going to doctors decades ago for their useless tests.
they were never vegan.
Many people can't do well on veganism despite access to all resources. It is not a viable approach to health for everyone. You know this, and get over it
@@dominionthemovieisreality1181what about b12? Be careful please
@@SSStofu008
I take b12 and d supplements…there’s nothing wrong with supplements…and I get yearly blood tests to make sure my vitamin levels are in the healthy range
I have been vegan for 45 years. At some point, I have been deficient in B12, iodine, iron, Vitamin D.... all correctable in a vegan way.
Being defiicient in B12 iodine and vitamin D is just a lack of supplementation and very cheap and easy. These are core supplements. You did not do your homework...
Iron is more complex. Most people should be fine by eating lentils regularly. Most of the time (not saying that was your case) being deficient in iron is a result of poor diet choices...
@@YaYippieYeah You say the person did not do his/her homework but that person says it was all correctable in a vegan way. I think there is a misunderstanding.
@@YaYippieYeah People didn't have the same resources in the seventies as there are today & often those resources (in public libraries e.g.) were horribly outdated. B12 was only discovered like 3 decades earlier & no one gave a crap about D3, when no one even told pregnant women to stop smoking till the early seventies. Times were different 45 years ago. You can't expect people to have better knowledge than even doctors back then did.
Same here. I was having some brain fog last summer, took a constant source of omega 3 for a couple of weeks. All was gone. I guarantee RD jr was fating. And juicing, with extreme low calorie intake
@@YaYippieYeah - I did do my homework. I've even blogged about it and had vegan doctors highly respect my work. After 25 years of being vegan, I discovered I was deficient in B12. When I was younger, and ate high quality out of my veganic garden, I didn't supplement so much. Now that I'm a senior citizen, I supplement heavily. I was still found recently to be iron-deficient. But they're just comparing me to meat-eaters. I feel fine. I have tons of energy. I take a an iron supplement once a week, all corrected. No need to torture animals. I am fine with taking supplements. Nonvegans take supplements, because they eat fortified foods and they eat animals that were given B12 supplements. As we age, it seems it is more difficult to get or process some vitamins. I am highly deficient in Vitamin D even though I take high doses daily. It might be an aging thing. Anyway, I feel fine. I have no diseases. Never been to a hospital. All my tests are perfect, except that I am low in blood tests on certain nutrients.
He was never vegan, he was on a plant-based diet. How can we change this misunderstanding about what veganism is?
I've worked on it for decades, you younger people need to keep working on the difference between a vegan and one who eats a plant-based diet. I don't have the social media accounts any more to do it.
I would say for vegans to quit calling it "vegan diet" and just refer to it as "plant based diet" whenever they refer to food.
@@dominionthemovieisreality1181 part of the problem also is food labelling.
@@pigstonwidget I agree but I kind of like it to say vegan on the label - it means it's becoming more popular!
@@harveyplantharvester1502 plant based food is becoming more popular but veganism isn't.
A simple multivitamin is all I've taken for years, even before I was vegan. I've never had any deficiency of any kind. It's so easy.
You would think. I take lots of supplements, and yet still found deficient in Vitamin D, even though I take mega doses daily. As we age, shit happens. Glad it's all good for you!
@@TheVeganPoet1 FFS Just go outside for 10 minutes and get off the Vitamin D anti-coagulant drug .
@@TheVeganPoet1 Be aware you are flirting with danger taking those Vit D megadoses, they contain toxic ingredients like anticoagulant. I agree, just go out in sun, you need so little per week. Aging has nothing to do with it. Those deficiency tests are so unreliable.
@@mikethats4thebirds600 - I go outside. But I've had a couple skin cancers, so not so much. I do go out and garden, walk the dog. It is far from enough for me. I used to get all my Vitamin D from being a sun-worshipper. Things change. Can't make blanket statements for all people.
He used to be" Iron Man "...now he's Non Iron Man .
Very good video David .
That;s so funny.
@@teresasimkins5518 👍👍
@@cicolas_nage 🤣🤣
He goes through the trouble of getting blood work done but he won’t go through the easy task of finding out what plant sources will help improve his blood work. Lazy.
Yes, plant sources. All nutrients can be found in foods from the garden and from a little bit of sunshine, not even any need for synthetic supps.
@@mikethats4thebirds600where do u get B12?
yea im convinced it's the social pressure that got to him. He wants to be able to eat the same things as his friends and family. He probably doesn't like being the odd one out.
It’s just an excuse.
Joaquin Phoenix is probably the only one. He's also gone to slaughter houses. He's been vegan since 3 I believe. Also, Bryan Adams the musician has been vegan for over 30 years.
Yes and then he went and rode horses for his new movie. So disappointing.
He should ask Jarvis to cook him a vegan meal .😂
Or Google
@@davidramms so look up Pete dunne he is a vegan wrestler in wwe and he's the bruiserweight
@@davidramms Or get a plant based dietician or even a vegan chef.
ChatGPT is also pretty good at this
HE was never vegan in the first place then...once vegan, there is NO GOING BACK!
So.o.o original. Never "going V".. beef tomorrow, girl atheist.
He was never a vegan. It's not a diet.
i'm vegan and my vitamin D was low, what did i do? sun 20min a day, and my vitamin D is now very good, everything else is on normal level
Very smart -- you can ONLY get the healing benefits from the sun, not in a jar of steroid hormone pills made from sheep's wool and containing rat poison, an anti-coagulant called cholecalciferol.
As long as we beat around the bush with animal rights, there is no real meaning to the cause. We seem to rally concern for certain animals who are in the minority while 90 billion animals are slaughtered per year without the same concern.
Lmao @ people testing on animals to fix depression. Causing this crap is what makes the world a more depressing place in the first place.
There's very little calcium in fish flesh, so how is that supposed to fix his deficiency?
I know this is just an anecdote but the two vegetarian women that I've dated in my life were the absolute sweetest most caring best Partners I've ever had
Every time a celebrity turns "vegan" for health reasons I'm already looking for the headlines mentioning they stop being vegan.
It’s not hard anymore, but it was pressure from friends and family. But I put my foot down. Now they used to it .
Thanks for the update! Love the format, reacting to comments, etc.
I’m tired off those celebrities like Miley Cyrus and others oh I’m 🥑 and then become peshpetarien sorry if I spelled it incorrect. They have so much money and resources to stay vegan
I never share any celebrities when they say they're vegan. I don't trust them.
I always speak about health because one of our biggest obstacles is getting people to understand that you don't need animal flesh to be healthy, lots of people believe animal flesh is essential to health so they won't even listen to anything else.
No more body parts in The Body Shop...fantastic!!
sounds like he was plant based, not vegan
I'm 8 years vegan and never done blood check never calculate what to eat. When I get sick in the future, I cant say its because of veganism. It was because of my diet and eating animal products wouldn't saved me anyhow. And thanks for any upcoming suggestions but I'm just surviving can't be bothered with calculations and doctors.
good work
Didn't know he was "vegan".
How can Iron Man be short of iron? Sorry, couldn't resist.
or, possibly, his agent told him "only some one percent of your fandom is vegan, as for the non-vegans they can be pretty vocal in their disdain for people who try to limit the amount of animal deaths. So now either you put that sausage in your mouth or I'm gonna ask Chris Pratt to replace you in IronMan 25.""
Amazing video - thank you!
He didn’t even try. When people don’t have the right motivation behind it they will give up too easily
Excellent, such great points in response.
An excellent video, ypu covered so much! Keep up the great work! 💚🥦🥑🍄🫛🫐🍓🫘🍊🍇🥔🍌🥕💚
He was never vegan, plant based at best
He just wanted an excuse to eat fish........I bet he's always worn leather.
It could’ve surely all been correctable and could’ve been done vegan. We can say he wasn’t ever vegan but can’t be sure. Feels a bit ‘no true Scotsman’.
Go Tash Peterson! 🎉 Thanks for featuring her
lol I became vegan when I was already married. Good point not easy. But my husband was a big meat eater now he is a peshpeterian . Hope we can get further
What is the hardest thing for you about being vegan ?
Social pressure
@@tgram4894 Hardest thing about being vegan is seeing other vegans claim you need synthetic supplements to stay alive. That's all just BS from animal agriculture & pill pushers.
That’s why I stopped listening and stay strong vegan 🌱 for the animals
I’m proud that my husband stop eating beef, chicken and pork. A mini step hope we can get further. For me ❤I will stay vegan as I said.
Great Video!
Great Video! Keep going with that great work
All my long term vegan friends are having issues (in old age) with Vitamin D. We stopped getting a lot of sun (skin cancer) and because of age and not enough sun, Vitamin D is an issue. Vegans must supplement with Vegan Vitamin D, and that's more of an issue than B12 which is so easy, as we need so little. I need to supplement A LOT of Vitamin D.
Agreed that vitamin D is a concern but everyone in the northern hemisphere should supplement vitamin D at the very least in the winter months, not just vegans. Same with B12, over 60s & many non- vegans should supplement too.
I'm sure you know but K2 & mg are important with high vit D supplementation 💜
@@hannahmitchell87 - Yes, I know about K2. I'm very well researched. I'm 66 and I heavily supplement with high quality supplements. I didn't when I was younger. I've read that 75% of Americans are Vitamin D deficient. All I know is the 4 seniors eating vegan in our household, and my friends in another household are all Vitamin D deficient. Elderly seniors, who may not get enough sun - must supplement 2,500 IU daily. Most people eat fortified foods; which means they take supplements. I don't have an issue with supplements. I'm vegan for ethical reasons. I became vegan when people said "you will die" - it was never about me or my health. But as it turns out, I'm much healthier than most people my age.
@@TheVeganPoet1 Vitamin D contains the anti-coagulant cholecalciferol found in RAT POISON, which makes them bleed to death, which is why they also say to take Vitamin K, a blood clotting drug. These supplements are toxic. And the sun does NOT cause skin cancer! You can safely absorb sun before 10am and after 3pm for just 10 minutes a day. Synthetic supplements are toxic garbage, including B12.
@@TheVeganPoet1 completely agree 👍 I don't have an issue with supplements either, any more than a non-racist would. So many arguments out there to rebutt when it usually just boils down to an unwillingness to change
@@TheVeganPoet1 Sorry, not true at all. I'll be 70 this year, been vegan since 1991 and never took supplements. I go out in the sun about 3 times a week. You're depending on bogus testing designed to find deficiency. Those Vitamin D are actually toxic drugs that can't duplicate the sun.
I disagree with Bill Maher on a lot of things but I really like his support, even if it’s partial support, of animal rights
What do you disagree with him on? He's a liberal.. Not as extreme and loco as so many these days, but he agrees with most of the mainstream media BS.
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He seems to side with MAGA on “woke” and trans people…I side more with RUclipsr David Pakman on those issues
@@vietnamd0820 Pakman is an extreme far left Communist. I wouldn't call Pakman a liberal, but an extremist. You consider yourself woke?
Robert is a book of excuses. You couldn't have been vegan to begin with if you were not doing it for the right reason. I went vegan for the animals but the benefit on top of that was it was good for my health as well.
GREAT VIDEO!!
RSPCA, is shameful for an animal charity
"Turning Shit into Sugar" Im dead
Being Vegan should be Super Hero 101. Protect vulnerable innocent beings from those in power wanting to harm them.🌱🦸♂️🌅🦸♀️🍀
Thank u
dude! you are the best.. bloody thank you
Yeah you can get deficiencies on any diet. However, every diet has typical deficiencies.
I love how 'deficiency' seems to be one of the fan- favorite cop-outs to just immediately jump back into funding animal abuse again as quickly as possible.
"Hey, I might be slightly deficient in B12... AHH, MUST IMMEDIATELY JUMP BACK INTO EATING MEAT, YES! FLESH MEANS ME GET B12 YES AHH ME NO WORRY OF DYING ANYMORE!!!"
I used to be kind of meh of how other vegans would bash people for these kinds of things as harshly as they would, but now, I kind of get it.
It truly is a very unevolved, caveman way of thinking. I almost feel bad for them. (I don't, considering they're harming animals for these choices, but I almost do.)
The classic my way or the highway
After Joaquin, I sadly do not trust any celebrity in this. Rob didn’t care about animals, it was only a convenience for his health.
I dont understand. He can totally afford medical exams! He can afford supplements! He could see a nutritionalist!
That's not how you stay healthy, running to clueless doctors for useless tests! You eat a variety of real whole foods from the garden with a daily staple of home-cooked/soaked legumes, fruit, and leafy greens/vegetables. SO SIMPLE.
Can you list actors that are vegan? THX
Woody Harrelson is long-time 100% vegan.
Joaquin Phoenix.
@@user-wv8ju3dw8s Love him!
it should read : Robert Downey Jr. tried and failed to go plant-based. "i just don't know how to use Cronometer"
Good Topic to bring on to a Vegan show!
Good on Stephen as well but tbh at his age I can't really see him going full Vegan; I think he may have been veggie for May have been 20+ years...
Ultimately its up to him what he does
If someone chooses to pay for animals to be harmed, then that isn't a purely personal choice - because it impacts on someone else. I've seen people mistreat dogs, and I've always spoken up for the dog. If I had just shrugged my shoulders and said "it's up to him if he wants to do that" then that would have been a cop out. Animals need us to speak up for them.
@@user-wv8ju3dw8s that's a choice you make ..not everyone is abusing animals, there's all types of things going on both good and bad in every sector ..that's life
@@oftin_wong If you saw someone mistreating a dog would you speak up for the dog, or just brush it under the "it's up to them" rug?
@@user-wv8ju3dw8sIf a sentence starts with "If you would see..." there's already a 99% chance that it's a bullsh*t comparison.
People care even if they're not extremists
@@garlic_greed Speaking up if you see someone causing unnecessary harm to an animal isn't comparable with speaking up if you see someone causing unnecessary harm to an animal? Right. Got it.
Bill Maher would be a great vegan activist
In these cases I'd say if you exhausted the plant based solutions, first try jalee royale. Maybe that's sufficient.
He may be a superhero🦸♂️ in 📽movies🎬... but he's a supervillain🦹♂️ IRL, in the eyes of the victimized & murdered animals. 💔
too right. poor innocent animals.
He's still a superhero to me because he does things he wants to do without listening to unnecessary hate
@@garlic_greed you mean criticism? persons who exploit, oppress, enslave and demand violence toward others need to be criticized and held accountable for their actions. agree or disagree?
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I thought Canada Goose exploited raccoon dogs too?
"I've found my keys thanks to a plant-based diet" hahaha
I find the "It doesn't work for me" argument disrespectful.
It's not meant to work or not work, it's a moral decision!!
What do you expect? Just eat differently so you stay healthy within a plant based diet
Whats disrespectful is not accepting the dietary choice of people to thrive.
Vegans stop being ableist and classist challenge!
Disrespectful? Be happy that he tried. There are people who wouldn't even try out of protest. Stop crying
So when a nutritional vegan quits it's because he's not an ethical vegan and when an ethical vegan quits it's because he's not a nutritional vegan
At least Robert won't have a PFAS or microplastics deficiency any more by going pescatarian.
It's so simple to get iron, b12 and iodine through everyday plant foods. So many supplemented w/ B12 also. Downey just looking for ridiculous excuses.
Pescatarian is better.. hopefully he doesn't go back to eating meat.. i mean.he wouldn't if he cared..
His way of doing it was obviously flawed.. but it's still better to do something than nothing
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1. You choose veganism to prevent unnecessary harm to
animals.
2. You take care of your health in any way possible with
the best guidance and support so that 1.can continue
The notion that there is a universal solution is
unrealistic and the claim that the plant-based diet is
ineffective for some people is unfounded because it
implies that it is a very limited diet when fact is no one has explored every version.😊
It is a restrictive diet. If its not why are vegan doctors recommending supplements.?
@HarveysWorkshop Medical professionals advise non-vegans to take supplements. They strongly advise taking B12 unless you are confident in obtaining it from fortified foods. Therefore, how can it be considered restrictive if the one vitamin is now covered?
@@educational-101 it is restrictive as you cut out the most available and nutrient dense food. You look at India where they just eat 3.78kg/yr of meat on average and you can see how high their child malnutrition and B12 deficiency rate as even compared to neighboring even poorer country like Pakistan where meat consumption is 18.6kg/yr.
@HarveysWorkshop
The comment does not provide any source or evidence for the claim that India has a high child malnutrition and B12 deficiency rate compared to Pakistan. In fact, the available data shows that both countries have a high burden of malnutrition and B12 deficiency, but the prevalence and trends vary depending on the indicator and the population group.
For example, according to the Global Nutrition Report, the prevalence of stunting (low height-for-age) among children under 5 years of age was 37.6% in Pakistan and 34.7% in India in 2016. The prevalence of wasting (low weight-for-height) among children under 5 years of age was 7.1% in Pakistan and 17.3% in India in 2016. The prevalence of underweight (low weight-for-age) among children under 5 years of age was 28.6% in Pakistan and 33.4% in India in 2016. The prevalence of anemia among women of reproductive age was 41.3% in Pakistan and 53.1% in India in 2016. The prevalence of B12 deficiency among adults was 39.6% in Pakistan and 47% in India in 2017. Therefore, it is not true that India has a higher rate of child malnutrition and B12 deficiency than Pakistan in all aspects.
Just to add, this is not a valid or credible argument against vegetarianism or veganism. It is based on inaccurate, outdated, and incomplete data, and it ignores the multiple and interrelated factors that affect the nutritional status of children and adults in India and Pakistan
@@educational-101A study in two urban settings found 6.8% of Pakistani male and female adults aged 46+10.5 years were vitamin B12 deficient. Meanwhile Reports suggest at least 47% of the Indian population suffers from low B12 levels in the body and only 26% of the population may be vitamin B12 sufficient
Bill Maher seems based (should go vegan though)
Thanks a lot. More compassionate people will join in the compassionate VEGAN diet. God bless!
A vegan world is closer than it seems
No. It's not. People are quitting for health reasons, plant based alternatives are decreasing (except the dairy alternatives which are still on the rise), and plant based businesses are forced to include meat due to the cost of living crisis. A vegan world may be nice and ideal, but it's not realistic as it invalidates indigenous cultures and disabled people who can't go fully vegan for a variety of reasons from autoimmune disorders to sensory issues. Factory farming is horrible but there are other options such as regenerative farming, strong animal welfare policies, and dismantling capitalism.
Let's stress test your ideas -- well, the ideas you've heard elsewhere and are spreading around without considering them very deeply.
About your take on veganism, commerce and capitalism: The meat and dairy industries do not operate under capitalism; they would not exist in current form without government subsidies. In the US, it's to the tune of more than $37 billion. In the UK it's a similar story. Plant foods, by contrast, receive one percent of that. If meat, dairy and eggs weren't so subsidized they'd be totally unaffordable for most people. I'm not sure where your views on "dismantling capitalism" fall under this current rubric of government welfare that props up an entire industry. That's already socialism by any definition, so try again.
About this idea that veganism would somehow "invalidate indigenous culture." How exactly would that happen? Are the Inuit of Greenland going to be "invalidated" if the law prevents them from hunting reindeer... from helicopters as they currently do? Ridiculous. Would you defend the practice of female mutilation to prevent the "invalidation" of the Native American Embera of Colombia? Shall we look the other way when the Dani or some other indigenous people of West Papua and New Guinea cannibalize each other? Absurd. There are many more examples but I hope you see the point. Preserving traditions that are cruel and violate rights are not cause to preserve culture -- nor would this be any more of a threat to indigenous people than any other law, tool adoption or modernization. Most indigenous cultures are under threat due to clearing forest for animal Ag, so if you don't like it, go vegan.
This leads me to respond to another spurious statement you made about "regenerative farming" and "strong welfare." Regen is a myth. Show me the studies that demonstrate anything beyond a temporary improvement that lasts beyond 10 years of carbon capture or does not require 1.5x the land, or shows improvement over rewilding of pastureland. There isn't enough land to farm that way, period, full stop. Besides, it does nothing to negate the rights violation of shooting an animal in the head or slitting his/her throat at one fifth his/her natural lifespan.
Now, you mentioned autoimmune diseases. Which ones exactly do you think improve with animal foods according to the literature? Because the most common ones I am aware of all show amelioration with a whole food, plant based diet. Lupus rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, type 1 diabetes, Graves' disease, IBS, Crohn's, psoriasis, celiac disease -- all have studies which show the benefit of plant based foods over animal ones. I am not aware of ANY non-rare disease that is improved by consuming animal foods over plant based. (And don't send me some anecdotal reports for carnidiots on RUclips. That's not evidence.)
In terms of sensory issues, it isn't the animals' fault that little Jimmy's mom fed him mac and cheese and chicken nuggets since birth and now he won't eat anything else. Hardly a justification for the continued rights violations of billions of land animals and trillions of marine animals every year.
No, we're not quitting veganism. I've been for 14 years, and neither I nor any decades-long vegans I know would ever betray animals because veganism is not a diet; it's an ethical stance against animal exploitation. It's the realization that animals are not food. It's the acknowledgement that animals have rights due to their ability to feel pain, suffer and embody a subjective experience like you or any protected animal. Most vegans I know would continue to be vegan even if it meant poorer health -- which, when properly planned, offers what is most likely superior health. Bonus.
You are correct about one thing: practicality -- because let's face it, most people don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. But lab meat and dairy will develop and eventually change the world. It will happen quickly, once it reaches critical mass. People may not be ethically vegan but at least the murder and rights violations (and so much suffering) will stop. I hope you think a little more deeply about the ideas you hear and spread. It harms animals and makes you sound rather pat -- which I doubt are your intentions.
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@@dountoothersWow! Ableism! Of course, I saw that coming! Having sensory issues or being autistic is not their fault either! In fact, there are many people who WANT to be vegan! But can't because of their disability!! The ableism and classism in the vegan community runs so deep, at least 90% of vegans are some form of ableist and classist!
You're right that government subsidies are what make animal products more accessible and affordable, but that is no excuse to be classist. Instead of attacking people with disabilities, consider changing the system first and unlearning your ableism.
But the issue here is that many plant based alternatives contain 5 out of 8 most common food allergens, which can make alternatives inaccessible for people with food allergies or autoimmune disorders. Many of the vegan alternatives and options in restaurants contain gluten, which makes veganism difficult for people with celiac disease.
Until cultured animal products become more available, consider your privilege, unlearn your ableism, and stop judging the book by its cover.
Nonsense. You show me in the literature where someone with autism or some such disorder must consume animal products. There are plenty of protein options out there that don't include allergens. It is probably exceptionally rare for someone to be allergic to all vegetable protein -- so rare that it could never justify the mass murder, torture and exploitation of 80 billion land animals and trillions of marine animals. Classist? For your information, black people of lower income account for the greatest percentage of vegans in the US, and it's cheaper to eat vegan according to a recent study. Your arguments are shit. Stop trying to frustrate people trying to help animals. @@eyebrowdimension
@@dountoothersFor your information, not everyone is from the US. Veganism can be cheap in some areas, it is not cheap or accessible in every area. Your privilege is showing. Expecting everyone to go vegan is ableist. We can only do so much to reduce harm as possible, but that's still not enough. Unlearn your ableism and stop attacking disabled people!
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26:50 Insert *_prisoners meme_*_ Big guy asking small guy: _*_"I killed a man & you?"_*_ , & the jailed activists replying: _*_"I freed defenceless fHarm animals from torture & certain death"_*_ , & the big murder guy slowly sliding away from the small (but fierce, when it comes to their basic convictions) activist guy_ here.
He really is damn if he does and damn if he doesn’t. We don’t know his health or diet. We don’t know what steps he took to make this decision. And He runs a coalition to save the planet.
The commenter who supports animal testing for human drugs and treatments is likely going to also say that he happily eats animals because they are not even remotely like humans.
Better to never go vegan at all than to try it just to have vegans complain that you were never vegan to begin with.
Get a life dude you’re commenting on every one of his post naysaying.
@@Beardedveganbbsb are you stalking my posts just to tell me this?
@@dBakaj no but you stalk vegan pages 🤡
@@dBakaj no but you stalk vegan pages 🤡
@@dBakaj no but you stalk vegan pages 24/7 cuz you’re a virgin
I for one applaud him for trying
This is why people dont want to become vegans. They criticize ex vegans who think first of their health. Vegans are so full of themselves.😅
It's also not good to blindly trust what ex vegans say about health. A lot of what they say is wrong and goes against science. Why can't vegans think about caring for animals too? How is that being full of oneself to try to care for others, like animals?
Vegans did help with health too. Check out the doctors and the bodybuilders on Plant Based News and Lifting Vegan Logic. Many nonvegans bully or force on vegans too.
There's people who have been vegan for decades or are athletes. Many nonvegans eat a lot of junk and pretend to care about health when it comes to veganism. Junk food is deficient in nutrition.
Many people don't want to be vegan cause they like the taste of animal products. So more vegan alternatives and lab meat helps.
Vegan isn't about diet. But then saying plant based won't get ppl much attention i guess
Not to mention a lot of them are also very ableist and classist. I'm sick of vegans telling disabled people that they're making "excuses" or they're selfish for putting their own needs first!
The first two times I went onto a plant-based diet I came off it again because, like you, I "thought first of my health". I tried again, but with a higher fat content, and it has been great. It isn't hard to get it right. I had simply been eating a badly-planned version of a plant-based diet. No vegans criticized me for jumping on and off the diet, but if they had, and if I'd then tried to blame my non-veganism on them for hurting my feelings, then that would have been pathetic.
@eyebrowdimension, a vegan, told me that if I was a vegan, I wouldn't have Neurofibromatosis 😂😂 but I'm in groups with people who are vegan and have Neurofibromatosis.
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It was roo difficult for him, if he can't even get it right with his resources, what chance does the average person have?
Eat Meat, Not Too Little, Mostly Fat
Thank you, but no, thank you. Here in Southeast Asia there are Buddhist monks who live well into their nineties, and spend in a year what a Hollywood celebrity would spend for a meal. It can be done.
No i dont think i will go vegan