Thanks for the video. I would not try to refill my extinguisher this way BUT I do have plans to use an extinguisher to hold compressed air, and this video was helpful.
A correction: The chemical in ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers is monoammonium phosphate. Also, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is not rated to put out the same kinds of fires. Monoammonium phosphate is non-toxic and is classified only as a nuisance dust (just like breathing dust when you are sweeping a dusty floor).
Hopefully no one takes this video seriously. Cool project to make a smoke shooter or something however a dry chemical fire extinguisher must only be recharged with Mono Ammonium Phosphate. The pressurising gas has to be dry Nitrogen as compressed air (Oxygen) is full of moisture (water) over time this can clump the power causing the fire extinguisher not to discharge properly, as well as begin to corrode the interior of the steel cylinder.
At least with these, you could cheat the system. But it won't really be advisable though. 😁 😂 😂 Its highly dangerous if I may say, since other pipz around won't know if that extinguisher is working or not. Imagine using it as means to cut off a fire, then it actually made the fire worst. 😂 Imagine a fire station system burning. 😂 😂
@bigbadklev It's not illegal, you just aren't supposed to and the only difference between refillable and disposable is refillable is a bit sturdier, and the nozzle screws off for the presurizing head, and the guage is marked in PSI and KPA aswell as green/red
OK people who are freaking out saying it wont work, it does!!!! I tryed it and it worked. I had the same extunguisher only it was white not red, and it only put out B and C fires.... so yah...
@npadul30 Make the nozzle smaller with a reducer such as a plastic ring that fits into the nozzle make sure the reducer is secured strongly. If you make the hole about half the original size it will take much longer for it to release the air yet it will retain a considerable amount of volume released.
Refill them with flour or corn starch and give them to people you don’t like. If they ever use them they will get a grain dust explosion that will blow the roof off their house.
I'd like to add something. after cleaning the threads and inspecting the compression oring my units still leaked. I detected this with soapy bubble solution. after 26 years I guess they have just worn out. thanks for the clue about making a better air filler.
ABC dry chemical is : monoammonium phosphate, which is yellow. This would have been what was originally in this fire extinguisher. This extinguisher was not intended to be refilled, but discarded. What this guy is doing is a felony in some states, but it's RUclips - so whatever. It's never a good idea to try to unscrew the valve of ANY pressurized cylinder. (Don't rely on the cheap little gauge to tell you it doesn't have pressure in it). This is pretty dangerous if you do not know what you are doing, so good luck to whoever wants to play around with this. BTW, nitrogen is used instead of air because it doesn't have moisture. dry chemical turns into a bunch of clumpy rocks when it is exposed to moisture. Be safe :}
Can it be re-pressurized with CO2? I'm wondering if air is really OK because it has oxygen in it and wouldn't that make the fire get bigger? The pros use Nitrogen, but I'm fresh out of pure nitrogen.
@sean juth Correct, otherwise it doesn't pressurize it to complete pressure. My compressor only puts out 150 psi and it only pressurized my fire extinguishers to 3/4 full.
Explain again the procedure for putting the air in it. Can I just recharge the one I have without opening it? Which handle do I hold or to refill with pressure do I even need to press any handle?
Hi, I got 1kg ABC fire extinguisher. I would like to turn it into Co2 tank for my planted aquarium. Can I dispose the content "powder" and wash clean, and refill with Co2. It is safe to do?
That's a non-rechargeable fire extinguisher.. after it's used u throw it away.. I noticed the pressure gauge is white.. those are disposable and not subject to 6yr maintenances or hydrotests
200 psi for full pressure. My compressor put out 150 psi and it only charges them back to 75% full of pressure. Which in my eyes is better than nothing.
The extinguisher was originally filled with Sodium Bi-Carbonate Phosphate, which was not the original powder that you dumped out. Sodium Bi-carbonate Phosphate dust is so fine it spreads like crazy through the air when you spill a tiny drop. IDK what you just dumped out. Flour?
Do you think it's smart filling an extinguisher with air. Last time I checked air feeds a fire. Nitrogen or CO2 displaces oxygen, (helping put the fire out as well). Extinguishers should be filled with nitrogen
@thecatofwisdom Question, how much psi could this be filled with...I am planning on using a fire extinguisher as an air tank to honk some train horns of mine. So in this vid it looks like it only lasts like 4 secs but I know other people who use fire extingushers can last about 10 - 15 secs. Any ideas?
my job is fire and Safety. I recharge extinguishers daily. That is kidde fire extinguishers, they are the dollar tree of extinguishers . your lucky that did not explode. those are no rechargeable extinguishers not safe to do that.
if you run a 1/8" NPT tap down that nylon "horn" is what they call it..its the same thread as the blow guns so a 1/8 pipe nipple can make handling the pressure easier. Not responsible if it blows out on you but 100 psi is small. 195 psi I'd watch it doesn't fly out.
Why did that last only about 2 seconds? It looked like it was fully charged with your air hose. Those sizes are supposed to last about 8 or 10 seconds to fully discharge.
This type/make of this extinguisher is the most dangerous made. The heads and gauges are well known for blowing off while refilling. Not to smart if you try this.
Where can a person get Nitrogen recharging done or do we have to buy liquid nitrogen and DIY ? CO2, might be an ok alternative ? thanks. Yes air has oxygen in it, so one would think it would just fan the flames
Pressure depends on the extinguisher itself, also, any power type should be charged with nitrogen. As it is a dry gas that has very little if any fluctuation in pressure due to temperature. Keeps the powder from becoming a brick.
As "unsafe" as it is, the people saying that filling it with air is dumb because oxygen fuels fire, this is true, but who's saying its necessarily for fire fighting use again? As a special effects makeup artist, I personally use fire extinguishers to spray blood and other fluids all the time. Fighting fire, dumb. Alternative uses, ehh... a little less dumb. Lol
I love this video! It's people like you who make my job great. I love being a firefighter and responding to a house fire then being told by the home owner that their self-refilled fire extinguisher didn't work. Not only do I get to see them in pain, but I also get to watch as everything they own go up in smoke. If you do this I hope you lose everything, maybe then you'll understand the importance of following instructions. They're not on them for show people.
Put the air nozzle in hold down the black lever start pressurizing ......Then kaboom there goes your hand.....Look mom no hands....Don't do this period!!!
Yeah, usually firefighters seem to be at least partially immune to the "we are in a position of authority so we think we're better than you" that other folks in other related services seem to get. So I suspect this poster isn't really a firefighter - and if they are, they should get their ego checked. That being said - I sure as hell wouldn't refill a fire extinguisher. Some areas not worth saving money on - this is definitely one.
That seems to be a non rechargeable extinguisher. Also nothing except the original contents shall be used to recharge an extinguisher. Oregon Fire Code and its reference to NFPA Standard for fire extinguishers 10.
I filled mine with sawdust, it just made the fire bigger. Pretty cool though
what is the gas u put into the canister? Air from air compressor?
nitrogen, no air
ivan shedden thanks buddy.
yes it is compressed air, but you could use any inert gas
I filled mine with petrol.
Unfortunately the insurance didn't pay out
Thanks for the video. I would not try to refill my extinguisher this way BUT I do have plans to use an extinguisher to hold compressed air, and this video was helpful.
Fill it with diarrhea. Use it if someone gets out of their car and tries to road rage with you.
LOL, farkin Gold bro :)
A correction: The chemical in ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers is monoammonium phosphate. Also, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is not rated to put out the same kinds of fires.
Monoammonium phosphate is non-toxic and is classified only as a nuisance dust (just like breathing dust when you are sweeping a dusty floor).
Ok
thanks kid! so much better than putting a schrader valve like i did on mine. I make my own pepperspray. can get a large crowd in one shot with it!
Hopefully no one takes this video seriously. Cool project to make a smoke shooter or something however a dry chemical fire extinguisher must only be recharged with Mono Ammonium Phosphate. The pressurising gas has to be dry Nitrogen as compressed air (Oxygen) is full of moisture (water) over time this can clump the power causing the fire extinguisher not to discharge properly, as well as begin to corrode the interior of the steel cylinder.
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Correct, although if you have a 123 PSI Mono Ammonium Phosphate compressor like me its fine.
At least with these, you could cheat the system. But it won't really be advisable though. 😁 😂 😂 Its highly dangerous if I may say, since other pipz around won't know if that extinguisher is working or not.
Imagine using it as means to cut off a fire, then it actually made the fire worst. 😂
Imagine a fire station system burning. 😂 😂
This guys gonna be on the Darwin awards list very soon.....
@bigbadklev It's not illegal, you just aren't supposed to
and the only difference between refillable and disposable is refillable is a bit sturdier, and the nozzle screws off for the presurizing head, and the guage is marked in PSI and KPA aswell as green/red
Thanks for the how to.
it's a good video . i used to refill my fire extinguisher all the time .. some times with water just for fun .. thanx man
OK people who are freaking out saying it wont work, it does!!!! I tryed it and it worked. I had the same extunguisher only it was white not red, and it only put out B and C fires.... so yah...
Another reason to not use compressed air is that it contains moisture, which may cause the contents to clump and/or foul the nozzle.
Use air from a SCUBA tank.
Aluminum nitrate? That is incorrect. The white powder will either be monoammonium phosphate or sodium bicarbonate.
This one would be ammonium phosphate because it's an abc extinguisher. Bc extinguishers use sodium bicarbonate
When was the valve stem and valve head seat cleaned?
what type of air did you use to refill?
is it just a usual air?
and what type of nozzle that was used to refill?^^
@npadul30 Make the nozzle smaller with a reducer such as a plastic ring that fits into the nozzle make sure the reducer is secured strongly. If you make the hole about half the original size it will take much longer for it to release the air yet it will retain a considerable amount of volume released.
Can these be refilled with liquid? If what kind of range would it have?
what is the name of the tool you use in filling the fire extinguisher with air in 3:04 ?
When do you weight the extinguisher?
Refill them with flour or corn starch and give them to people you don’t like. If they ever use them they will get a grain dust explosion that will blow the roof off their house.
One of these exploded in my car today. Breathed quite of this...
could you refill it with the powder like they use for color runs?
S buchholz yeah, but use Oxygen.
That is exactly what I am trying to do. Is that really possible
This is totally safe IF you use an ALUMINUM fire extinguisher. Steel extinguishers will rust and explode. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd like to add something. after cleaning the threads and inspecting the compression oring my units still leaked. I detected this with soapy bubble solution. after 26 years I guess they have just worn out. thanks for the clue about making a better air filler.
I really hope nobody actually tries to do this... those are meant to be replaced. But cool video.
Thanks ❤
to refill it does he use a special type of nozzle ??
plz do fill me in
@zipjunkie Now there's a firefighter we want coming to save us. One who wishes the victims he has to go save, lose everything. Give this man a raise!
The extinguisher demo can cause injury and or death by using unauthorized techniques.
+Alva [Al] Good I agree he should have said to wear safety goggles
+Wil Morris, Even then it would be stupid.
So can, walking your doggy!
How did the air and powder seperate
ABC dry chemical is : monoammonium phosphate, which is yellow. This would have been what was originally in this fire extinguisher. This extinguisher was not intended to be refilled, but discarded. What this guy is doing is a felony in some states, but it's RUclips - so whatever. It's never a good idea to try to unscrew the valve of ANY pressurized cylinder. (Don't rely on the cheap little gauge to tell you it doesn't have pressure in it). This is pretty dangerous if you do not know what you are doing, so good luck to whoever wants to play around with this. BTW, nitrogen is used instead of air because it doesn't have moisture. dry chemical turns into a bunch of clumpy rocks when it is exposed to moisture. Be safe :}
"but it's RUclips - so whatever." --This is one of the best phrases I've seen in a long time. I hope you don't mind if I steal it.
Michael V steal on :). I was going to add "ignorance is bliss"
Thanks man
Mark Stafford hi
Mark Stafford, you are the best example of how someone can be smart, yet be such a dumbass that I am stealing your post.
Can it be re-pressurized with CO2? I'm wondering if air is really OK because it has oxygen in it and wouldn't that make the fire get bigger? The pros use Nitrogen, but I'm fresh out of pure nitrogen.
reload it with what? with the air compressor?
how many pounds of air pressure did you put in
yes it is. the extinguisher it self says discar/ replace after use. look it up again and consult a professional.
Its really to show how to refill with anything for instance im looking at this so i can fill on with paint ;)
i love your .... parts bolts nuts tray container stahd.. thing. on the right xD
Dont know what its called.got a higher thinner one. but i love this!!
very cool video!!1
Make sure your air compressor can hold more than 200 psi
@sean juth Correct, otherwise it doesn't pressurize it to complete pressure. My compressor only puts out 150 psi and it only pressurized my fire extinguishers to 3/4 full.
Explain again the procedure for putting the air in it. Can I just recharge the one I have without opening it? Which handle do I hold or to refill with pressure do I even need to press any handle?
+n4ktz The expellent should not be air. The type of gas must be what the instructions list. Nitrogen, Argon, are some of the gases to use.
Hi, I got 1kg ABC fire extinguisher. I would like to turn it into Co2 tank for my planted aquarium. Can I dispose the content "powder" and wash clean, and refill with Co2. It is safe to do?
Probably could kill the fish if any powder is left
I cant get it open?
i cant open mine
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Is it possible to refill it with AFFF?
Cool
Instructions Unclear: I am now homeless😭
Nice more information
That's a non-rechargeable fire extinguisher.. after it's used u throw it away.. I noticed the pressure gauge is white.. those are disposable and not subject to 6yr maintenances or hydrotests
how many psi does my compressor have to produce. I have a small walmart aircompreesor for filling tire and
for air brushing
200 psi for full pressure. My compressor put out 150 psi and it only charges them back to 75% full of pressure. Which in my eyes is better than nothing.
I love how the end gets cut off! "Joey what the fuck did you do in my kitchen, what are you doing with the fire extinguisher?
I thought they said those were disposal fire extinguishers
That does not mean that it will hold that forever. In fact, that is to be retested every so often.
@thecatofwisdom The last thing you ever may hear is BOOM!!!
If you are not supposed to breathe the powder, I would recommend using a mask when you're handling it ;-)
its not the air that snuffs it though its the powder (depending on the make and model)
the powder is a mixture of sodium bicarb and aluminum nitrate
The extinguisher was originally filled with Sodium Bi-Carbonate Phosphate, which was not the original powder that you dumped out. Sodium Bi-carbonate Phosphate dust is so fine it spreads like crazy through the air when you spill a tiny drop. IDK what you just dumped out. Flour?
How fare of much do you fill it
Do you think it's smart filling an extinguisher with air. Last time I checked air feeds a fire. Nitrogen or CO2 displaces oxygen, (helping put the fire out as well). Extinguishers should be filled with nitrogen
@thecatofwisdom
Question, how much psi could this be filled with...I am planning on using a fire extinguisher as an air tank to honk some train horns of mine. So in this vid it looks like it only lasts like 4 secs but I know other people who use fire extingushers can last about 10 - 15 secs. Any ideas?
This hurt my head.
my job is fire and Safety. I recharge extinguishers daily. That is kidde fire extinguishers, they are the dollar tree of extinguishers . your lucky that did not explode. those are no rechargeable extinguishers not safe to do that.
you could have sipped the corner of the plastic bag off to put the powder back in the fire container!
For those saying this is a not rechargeable unit, please look on the upper right of the label at 8:24, it is instructions for refilling this unit...
On the gauge it will say "Discard after Use" because that plastic valve is a price of junk, it will eventually leak off
Jeremiah Johnson Just looked on mine, it does not say that on the valve.
if you run a 1/8" NPT tap down that nylon "horn" is what they call it..its the same thread as the blow guns so a 1/8 pipe nipple can make handling the pressure easier. Not responsible if it blows out on you but 100 psi is small. 195 psi I'd watch it doesn't fly out.
God help us.....
The name of the video should have been " How to make a Thunder Gun"
This seems dangerous.
Why did that last only about 2 seconds? It looked like it was fully charged with your air hose. Those sizes are supposed to last about 8 or 10 seconds to fully discharge.
When you mix the air with powder less air will flow out at once and it will take longer for the pressure to drop down
This type/make of this extinguisher is the most dangerous made. The heads and gauges are well known for blowing off while refilling. Not to smart if you try this.
People keep saying use nitrogen. But in the beginning he said, FOR A AIR GUN!
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i need to fill an exstinguisher with bed bug powder and wait two weeks then vacuum it all up
All I want to know? If done right, With caution, can it be done? Because I have so many empty ones and it’s a shame.
kek only reason im here is using a fire extinguisher to make an air gun
+Balto Maybe, lol me to
i have a freakin' FirstAlert extinguisher, and it's only read to recharge at 100 p.s.i.
Aha juat got a homemade krink fire extinguiser!!!!!!! :D
and have you ever used paint in it
Where can a person get Nitrogen recharging done or do we have to buy liquid nitrogen and DIY ? CO2, might be an ok alternative ? thanks. Yes air has oxygen in it, so one would think it would just fan the flames
Oxygen not CO2 to yes there are CO2 extinguishers
can you please tel me what preasure of compreser
Pressure depends on the extinguisher itself, also, any power type should be charged with nitrogen. As it is a dry gas that has very little if any fluctuation in pressure due to temperature. Keeps the powder from becoming a brick.
I filled it with pepper spray XD
Nice,,but forget the paper funnel,,it;s a zip lock bag,,seal the top, turn it over and cut off one corner,, then just let it run into the canister
What types of gas is used for pressurized the cylinder??
Nitrogen
@Captaincaveman67 Isnt it better to let the professionals do that?
Just a tip.
As "unsafe" as it is, the people saying that filling it with air is dumb because oxygen fuels fire, this is true, but who's saying its necessarily for fire fighting use again? As a special effects makeup artist, I personally use fire extinguishers to spray blood and other fluids all the time. Fighting fire, dumb. Alternative uses, ehh... a little less dumb. Lol
i refilled mine with capsaicinoids, for self defense purpose
I love this video! It's people like you who make my job great. I love being a firefighter and responding to a house fire then being told by the home owner that their self-refilled fire extinguisher didn't work. Not only do I get to see them in pain, but I also get to watch as everything they own go up in smoke. If you do this I hope you lose everything, maybe then you'll understand the importance of following instructions. They're not on them for show people.
After this procedure, it doe's not keep his pressure.
Recipe for disaster in the works.
Its form a life jacket
I thought that they would explode if you filled them to much?
Put the air nozzle in hold down the black lever start pressurizing ......Then kaboom there goes your hand.....Look mom no hands....Don't do this period!!!
Yeah, usually firefighters seem to be at least partially immune to the "we are in a position of authority so we think we're better than you" that other folks in other related services seem to get.
So I suspect this poster isn't really a firefighter - and if they are, they should get their ego checked.
That being said - I sure as hell wouldn't refill a fire extinguisher. Some areas not worth saving money on - this is definitely one.
That extinguisher model is a recall.
So?
Why you not test after all..
That seems to be a non rechargeable extinguisher. Also nothing except the original contents shall be used to recharge an extinguisher. Oregon Fire Code and its reference to NFPA Standard for fire extinguishers 10.
No it would not blow up diesel because the air is pre compressed and has no temp 9:25
Gotta be kidding me...
Another reason this is stupid is that someone might pick it up to fight a fire and find that it accelerates the fire instead.
the extinguisher are recharged only whit CO2 GAS!!! air presured only encrease the fire!!
I filled mines with Cocaine And the Fire got 10X times More AMAZZZING!!!! =DDDD