The Watch Seiko SHOULD Have Made......
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I really quite like this one. I wish that the bracelet version had been out a few months ago though! Grrrrrr. Why did Seiko take a classic design and make it so bloody unattainable? Thank goodness for the Chinese pirates, eh? Cheers, Jody
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How about offering hexagonal logo on your diver watches instead of writen in line? It would be amazing. I'm sure I'm not the only one with this opinion
@@Incursorious You can customize logo
Can you come up with something original?
@@joeandreis568 Yes,We have added a hexagonal logo version
@@sanmartinwatches It looks beautiful. Thank you!
Great watch, great vid Jody. I think we should all feel comfortable wearing this homage watch as it has a Seiko movement and sapphire. You will never get a Rolex homage with Rolex movement.
I think you nailed the lunacy of the watch community. We'll turn up or noses at a spectacular homage of a watch Seiko refuses to build, but we'd fall all over ourselves racing to pay twice as much for the exact same watch if it said Seiko on the face. 🙄
"If San Martan can do it, why can't Seiko?" Oh... they can. The operative word: Won't.
Yes they can and do, but they will let you pay extra anyways. And that, my friend, keeps the stock holders happy.
@@Ohjeezno They do?? Where?
They do, they just charge much, much more.
Keeping share holders happy? By making a limited edition 1.100 piece run of SLA037 at $6.300? Let's say they sold only 50.000 copies of a lower spec $500 version of this instead - the R&D would even cost a lot less on the cheaper version not to mention the machining/assembly per unit. You do the math!
I love how the crystal distorts the minute track on this version! Really hypnotic when you move it around as they grow massive. Man, too bad the current version doesn’t have this…
Jody, Seiko is really good at f’ing themselves. And we seem to suffer for it more than they do. And yet, I’m still a fanboy. Go figure. 🤔🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤣
That's because they have such an extensive line that you'll always find other Seikos that are great. How they did the 62mas re-issue bugs me enough to almost swear them off, however. I might even have been willing to pay $4000 for one, but, they made sure that if you didn't jump in soon enough, they'd all be gone. How does that even qualify as a "re-issue"?? I call it a slap in the face to fans.
varanid9 I kind of agree, but I think they were also gauging what the market would bear. There are new 62MAS reissues this year that are even more affordable, although still limited. wornandwound.com/introducing-the-seiko-spb149-or-a-modern-reinterpretation-of-the-62mas-done-right/
My toughts exactly. Seiko is an absolute garbage with the new releases. They discontinue good watches with sub par versions of them for more or same money. Samurai ain't sharp, "new skx" is now a fashion desk diver, and don't even start with the whole limited edition blue alpinist for 800$. These days Seiko sells watches that offer half of specs of microbrands for twice the money. Hope they wake up or end up sinking
@Wave Dancer Unfortunately for us they seem to actually have discovered marketing over there in Minato. They'll just get less exciting and more profitable.
Don't get me wrong, I really like Seiko watches and I'm just saying it as an owner of couple of them, that i'm disappointed of where the company is going with their new releases.
Just don't buy Seiko.
@@syndicatedsatellite7288 well, it was the first automatic for me... cheap, but automatic.. kind of like gateway drug, but as the knowledge of watches and watchmaking increases, you start to see the flipside of that coin 🤷♂️👍
Where can I find this $800 blue alpinist?
Jody, we all know they could do it. Seiko won't, because of all the stupid people who will buy anything with a Seiko logo at any price. We, ourselves are to blame.
I've given up on Seiko, they use the same 4R35/6 and 6R15 movements in everything and the newer watches have poor QC. While these movements are great, they're not shouldn't be in watches costing $400 - $1000. Seiko's are now overpriced and I can get a better deal on Swiss Autos on the grey market. Unless they introduce a movement worth it's price tag, I'm never buying another Seiko. I still love my $350 SARB035 though.
I am stupid. I buy Seiko and never regretted it !!! Cheers Bro !!!
Well said couldn't agree, my jaw dropped when I heard that the homage to the 62 Mas was 4K, I thought I heard it wrong. Very displeased to hear that now its official that the SKX is being discontinued, a real shame.
It is a very interesting watch I would go with the sterile....
Me too, not keen on that San Martin logo
I go sterile every chance I get, I like the pure symmetry!
I am considering sterile with the bracelet and lumed bezel. It appears the sapphire crystal is optional..
Another great review Jody. There's also a version by Heimdallr which they claim has 300m water resistance and is $169. They have also just launched a Grand Seiko homage. Wonder what that's like?.....
Sandy L Man I’m really curious about Heimdallr after hearing of them here... would love to see a review of that GS homage!
@@arikjohnson412 Personally, I want a comparison between that and the Reef Tiger Grand Reef.
@@arikjohnson412 Me too. Looks but....
Just got one of these in last week. Exactly the same as in the video. Totally loving it! Great quality, great size, super value, tons of complements already! Can't wait to see how it stacks up against the SLA017!
Wow...that waffle tropical rubber strap...the market grey sunburst and sharply simple design is bang on indeed!
At first I was thinking about ordering a Seiko SPB143J1 because I couldnt afford the SLA017. But with my last Seikos I had some QC issues. After looking this video I ordered a San Martin...it looks better in reality than in the video. I am so impressed, that I will order another one.
I agree on a nice steel bracelet Jody...but that IS a rather nice tropical style rubber strap. Quite nice indeed sir. I am LOVING THIS WATCH the longer this review goes. Lovely and brings me back to...well, sweet old days when things seemed more simple and direct. Thanks Jody always!
Bit late to this party but have just purchased the most recent version of this watch - SM have fixed those gripes re the crown and buckle, mine is on the bracelet and both are now signed. The case back has been changed to the deeply etched shark which looks awesome, and mine also has the lumed ceramic bezel. I paid £210, of all the value watches I’ve seen (and bought) via the JOMW channel this is the best - best looks, best build quality, best pound for pound bang for buck, really a fantastic piece.
Totally agree, horrible ball drop by Seiko, said the same in the crappy video I made about this watch :).
I watched your crappy video 5 times and bought the watch.
@@mahathir101 Haha nice one! Hope you're enjoying it :).
That crappy video convinced me to order too. Hopefully getting mine in a few weeks from now. Keep up the good work!
You're video helped me too. I bought the watch and made my own video too.
Yes Jody, Yes I am okay with an outright ripoff of the overpriced SLA.
What about ripoffs of overpriced Daytonas, Milsubs and even Subbies?
@@theoneandonly7213 I am okay with that. They are nice watches but I also look for value for money. If you can get an homage with decent specs at a decent price and you can't afford the real deal, this is the market for homage watches.
....and now you have the Seestern and it is even better. BTW, for the bigger wristed, the Seiko SBDC053 is a great watch. I had a barely used one, kept it for two years and sold it for a small profit.....beautifully made.
they should re~design their logo. back to seiko, they discontinued quite a handful of their popular models and imho theres only one reason for it
re packaging them and sell them with much higher price tag.
I bought an SKX009 for 169 three years ago and now I see them well over 200.00 and it is not even a great watch. Durable yes. But does not hack or wind. I bought it used from a guy who regulated it. its like +2 seconds a day. Pretty good for that movement. It has taken abuse from me. Mainly swimming. I like to know the time and how long I have been in the pool so I don't get too burned. I am sad
@@scottsj4625 indeed they are increasing their price and whether it justifies or not, it will be up to individual to decide.
throughout horology journey of mine that span 2 decades, I dont have much exp with seikos, I kicked off with an omega, subsequently rolexs, pan... and others so on so forth. I only came across seiko just few years ago when I had my first 6r15 ~ not impressed, not overly disappointed either as with couple of hundred dollars, I cant compliant. but it looks like seiko is increasing the price substantially but with pretty much the same quality, to me that is disappointing.
and interestingly I acquired a 5626 9040 a year ago, cost wee little more than my 6r15, and man it's old but I was blown away by its quality from movement (cosc) to dial, hands, finely polished applied indices and the case design and level of polishing... I mean I started wondering, seiko absolutely has (or had) the ability to make watches as good as any swiss better rivals... they chose not to do that. and given the amount I paid for this brilliant piece, it just put the 6r15 cocktail time to shame. my only compliant (personal preference )to this watch is it's a dress watch which I dont get to enjoy it very often....pity.
so it comes back to the question, why couldn't seiko continues making watches like that... I can only explain this that seiko is trying make more profit. unfortunately in a way like giving 50% of effort and asking for a 200% return.
@@ricchrono5907 I see. You are probably used to higher tiers of watches. Grand Seiko are hand made to a point and they take a lot of effort to try to compete with the swiss. You might want to look at some photos. I have some vintage Seiko's only kept because my Grandmother gave them to me in the late 1970s and she has long past. I don't change the batteries but the one she got me when I turned 16 was a digital watch ahead of its time. It has 5 lines of text. This is 1981. Many people I know had Analog Seiko's and I think more effort was put in then as to what they do now. I have seen some nice vintage Seiko watches. I agree with you about giving you less of a watch for more money.
@@scottsj4625 please take good care of them, personally I think older seikos are much better made than the new ones😉
and about the higher tier subject, I dont exactly view it that way. the longer I played with them, the more i appreciate watches from different brands. i like my vostoks almost just as much as those way more expensive pieces. it all comes to occasions, and how well they accompany you on you are doing, your outfit, how they blend in with your personality. sometimes I take my sd to the water, sometimes I take vostoks... speaking of occasions, i was crazy enough to take my moonwatch (my all time fav) to the sea once 🤦♂️, I read it says 50m water resistant, i could barely reach 3m....so I brought it out. that was 15 years ago lmao. what a twat I was.
i have the San Martín sn064 and the logo on that one is pretty neat. I think they should use it on the other models as well
I love the San Martin collection. Especially the 62 Mas. San Martin is really tough to beat them when it comes to value.
Thanks for reviewing this, Jody. I bought it based on your review, and it's a terrific watch. I ordered it directly from San Martin on the SS bracelet. Everything about it is absolutely impressive. My only small moan or niggle is that the first link in the bracelet doesn't articulate, so it makes the watch sit a little wide on my wrist (55 mm). I can certainly live with that given the overall quality of the watch. Seiko is going down a path I don't appreciate, so as you said, I'll proudly wear my San Martin.
Awesome video Jody! I think Seiko is still suffering from QC issues and dealer losses at least here in the states. I’m wondering if they’re just trying to stay afloat? If you think about it the separation from Grand Seiko and the focus on designer watches instead of fallowing they’re heritage makes me think Seiko might be in trouble! Maybe if seppuku was still practiced the company would be on track?
What's seppuku?
@@anishabisht4213 Also known as harakiri (literally, "stomach cut"), traditional ritual suicide by slicing open one's stomach...
Jodie my 62mas came in yesterday, and it looks marvelous came fast to, well I'm going to continue looking at these Chinese watches they seem to be very worth the money.
Mine arrived today. As yours but on a rather good bracelet. It has a signed crown, a lumed bezel and an engraved shark on the back. Cost £157, an absolute stunner at a bargain price.
Just ordered one of these from the Aliexpress Black Friday sale for £120. I love its looks.
I have been waiting for this review! Thx just ordered a blue one!
San Martin is the Patron Saint of frugal divers ☝️ 🚢 it
Seiko are practically asking to be ripped off. I've been almost done with Seiko for a really long time. I might really be this time. Tomorrow.
Thanks Jody for sharing this watch! Mine just came in and I love it! Great addition to my collection. Keep the great videos coming!
Great video, Seiko are really good at shooting themselves in the foot. Good lookin watch👍
I have the blue dial San Martin, the Proxima (himq) black dial and the Merkur 62mas black dial. Sla017 too $$$, sbdc051 to big. They are all amazing but the Merkur is the definite standout and my clear favorite. Better detailing, fit, finish and a matching date wheel. Another excellent video to be followed by F1 Spa Free Practice highlights.👍
The San Martin actually looks better 😅
I actually agree. Love those huge lumed hour markers 😍
I just bought one! I hope you’re right
Great watch! Had my eye on it for a while and really, really like it. Great review!
I agree. Seiko dropped the ball on this. I would have lined up for this too for $400!
Excellent review. Like a lot of Seiko fans, I've always liked the styling of the 62mas. So, after watching this about three times, I've just ordered a San Martin 62mas. Can't wait for it to arrive! I hope Seiko listen to you, Jody. Like you, I have no idea where they think they're going with their current product range.
I bought the bronze one with a green dial
This is my EDC watch. It is the essential classic. A true piece of history. And better than the original. NH35 movement is rock solid and can easily be replaced when needed. Looks amazing on ss bracelet. Thank you San Martin. I chose the sterile dial. I hate advertising on a watch. My next purchase will be green dial with black bezel insert.
San Martin isn't really a known and trusted brand, but Armida makes a very similar watch called the A12. They're $450, but Armida almost always has a 15% off sale going on around every holiday you can think of.
Just bought mine because of this video. Dude, I am baffled by the quality of it. It's superb looking, SOLID AF construction. hate to say it but it looks better made than my turtle save the ocean great white(favorite watch I own). Certainly my black watch of choice till a get the monetary cuddos to buy a bb58 or a sea master lol
Apart from brand identity, I think the San Martin beats the Seiko hands down...in my opinion that is... Good job though.But Jody, I am still waiting for the pagani hulk review ( you seem to be test my patience 😀)
Great points made in your review! Speaking of sapphire in particular In my own experience; I bought a cheap $20 "June & Ed" :) brand chronograph dress watch WITH FLAT SAPPHIRE! Why can't Seiko get away from their Hardlex and use sapphire in all their watches! I bought a s Seiko 5 field watch that scratched the first week I wore it, and I doubt I'll ever by another Seiko in the future without sapphire. (The June & Ed Chrono is now $59.99 on Amazon)
Jody , best review watches, just keep doing . Very accurate and proper comments.
Just ordered one more watch. Thanks for the review.
Gran video Jody! Gracias. Vicent (Spain)
The only reason to buy Seiko with this competition is their branding. Seiko is ripping their customers with lower quality for higher prices. The SARB,SKX were really good and discontinued and limited editions is insulting. When adding their quality control,lack of regulation and no sapphire it's hard to justify buying Seiko.
I'd get one if I were in the market for a 62mas homage. I'm not sure, but I think Heindallr/Sharky makes something very similar for about the same price. but, it doesn't have a bracelet option which is what I'd prefer to get. any other strap option you could easily get later.
I say maybe find a seiko 62mas dial to swap out the San Martin one. it probably won't be cheap being a genuine seiko part
But, you'd still be in a very comfortable price range to play the part a little more authentically.
Hands down the best watch reviews I've watched. Normally watch reviews feel like a slog but not these. Great job!
Thanks for the kind words mate!
Seiko is just making good money 💰! Great review Jody!!
San Martin makes a Tuna watch! Thanks for talking about these inexpensive brands. I like San Martin model 0011 "sea master" diver too.
The only difference between San Martin and the plethora of other ali express, NH35 equipped Seiko homages from what looks like the same factory seems to be the superior bracelets and straps. For the price difference though, I would personally just go with one of the cheaper NH35 specials, buy an aftermarket seiko bracelet from somewhere like geckota and use the money saved for a nice dial mod, they are all pretty much identical regardless.
It's a watch that have a long time go round and round in my mind. Totally agree with you in all. I think that Seiko want repositioning in market with more expensive products inclusive from the level entry.
In other hand.... You can tell me where stocking his watches your friend Zane 😄😄😄😄
Hey Jodi! Great review. Did you see Merkur has also a 62Mas hommage on aliexpress? Its a green dial with a brown leather strap. A really handsome watch
Another GREAT JOMW video! How do you find all these gems?? I 100% agree with you. Your marketing model makes MUCH more sense than whoever is driving the Seiko company now-a-days. Seiko could have made the $4000 SLA017 for the collectors & investors to have their fun with. THEN made a working man (diving man?) version for the rest of us regular joes. I am not knocking the San Martin - they clearly stepped in where Seiko feared to tread. They saw a niche and filled it. Sounds & looks like San Martin did a good job as well. But it would have had that certain extra appeal if it was actually made by the original maker & had Seiko on the dial. I guess we are all just shaking our heads over Seiko missing this particular boat.
Hi, I know this is off topic but any chance of a review of the Reef shark deepsea.
Keep up the quality reviews
I recently purchased a $100 Seiko, as well as a $100 Pulsar (owned by Seiko) The Pulsar is clearly the superior watch! Solid links, as opposed to the folded Seiko band. Better finish on the Pulsar. More features, and rock solid.
Beware of San Martin! i bought the Datejust homage and received it with the dial completely misaligned, they refused to send me the free return ticket promised and wanted me to pay 45 euros to return it. Aliexpress didnt help either because according to them, the seller was communicating even though they didnt help. Very disappointed by the watch and this awful experience.
I'm glad someone said that about Seiko! I love my SKX, but it could've been so much better. For the same price of my now scratched up hardlex 009, I'd definitely prefer this San Martin domed sapphire--with a better movement. Seiko's got a little too much puff in their chest methinks... Nice review and commentary Jody! 💪👍
Very good ideas, fully agree!
I love mine little different,but same specifications from the same San Martin's company I believe, yeah I don't get ether my friend agree %110 why Seiko is going wrong way already, with the new SKX007 replacement.is shame 🤔
Nice watch! What do you think of the full lumed bezel version they are offering now?
Etienne Fritsch I love it - that version is the bomb! Lume is INSANE!
I don't Like dome, I preffer plain sapphire. I don't know why people prefers dome. Is a technical reason or aesthetic? Best regards from Brazil.
I like it because it looks aesthetically good.
@@fraserp2377 thank you very much for your comment. Best regards, Mário.
Wouldn't give a hoot because it doesn't have the Seiko name on it, Big Deal, lovely watch, and great review Sir 👍 Tam.
Hi, I just bought this San Martin 62Mas watch off Aliexpress but how do I remove and resize the metal bracelet ?
Mine is a sterile dial but has a signed crown and buckle. Caseback is also different.
Nice watch in itself but judging from the comparison shot, the finer details of the design on the Seiko are a lot sexier to me.
Everything is thinner/smaller more delicate.
Don't forget the Seiko has that Hardlex ace up its sleeve as well.
@@Bob.martens I meant the very pricey SLA017. I'm scratching my head why they didn't release that design in their 500-1000$ range. Its a beauty.
@@dmks2146 Everybody does.
I ordered one from amazon.
Was waiting for this, thanks for video review. Would look even better in bronze case and faded green dial. Very good quality and value like Reef Tiger
Use that keychain spring-bar tool and you’ll likely pierce the old “speed bag”😖😂
Love your Star Trek T-Shirt! Die hard Trekkie myself!
I like that these Chinese homage companies are picking models that are either insanely hard/expensive to find or in colors Seiko doesn't offer, but still putting Seiko movements in them. There's already an SKX one out there with the rare bullet markers, so I'm sure we'll now see more on that front a la the classic Turtle homages.
I really cannot find a better overall all-around diver than the seiko srpb51 samurai, IMO has great quality, reliable movement good finishing, original and functional aesthetic, is not a homage, looks modern yet not out of elegance, has a great bezel action, has ceramic bezel mods available for aftermarket, and so on. To me it's the best diver watch under 1K
People are really down on Seiko right now and it's getting harder and harder to defend them... Unfortunately couldn't agree more with your sentiment in the video. This should have Seiko on the dial. It really is an impressive little watch and now that it has the JOMW stamp of approval I think I'm going to have to buy one. Already have a Cadisen Diamond and quite pleased with it...
With regarding your Amazon page, which is located in the US, how do we order to Australia? And is shipping included? Thanks.
Great Video, thanks Jody!
Hi there, have you had experience with the Armida A12? I would be interested to hear your thoughts about it. They're asking more money for another 62MAS homage. Thanks for the review.
I have the Oceanica Reef coming to my door soon. Comparable to the San Martin!
Would you rather have a San Martin homage or a Heimdallr? Which do you think makes a better watch? They seem pretty identical.
San Martin for 62MAS, Heimdallr for 6105
BuckNaked2k thanks!
Hi ,have you seen the san Martin pan homage in bronze & the option of a swiss movement all for $450 with sapphire crystal
Think you should have bought the Sterile dial and mod the watch with a Seiko Automatic logo, it does have a NH35 inside it after all 👍
If San Martin make their own design, I would be more than comfortable wearing their watches. This is great value.
We do have our own designs, you can check anyway from the website.
They do I'm wearing the San Martin 0064 a Sinn cross skx hybrid
Hey Jodi, I really enjoy your videos! Thanks for the work, that goes into making them. Do you plan on making a comparison between the San Martin and the Heimdallr 62 Mas Shark? I'm thinking about getting a 62 Mas Hommage, but I'm not sure which one is the way to go...
Keep it up! ;)
At this point with Seiko going waaay upmarket, I am absolutely fine seeing San Marten on my sla dial.
I would prefer companies like San Martin to offer a graphic logo rather than a written one. Let's face it the Chinese do not understand how naff the names are that they choose but we the buyers do and the more expensive the watch the more self-conscious a bad name can make the wearer. A blank space does not work for me so any kind of logo type set up would do.
Honestly even some Chinese writing would be better. Why do Chinese watchmakers seem so ashamed of their origin?
@@emdeka94 Depends. The brands you are referring to are atypical microbrands (Carnival/Reef Tiger etc.).
They are NOT Watchmakers (More like assemblers & rebranders but I digress) or were mass-manufactured in a factory in Shenzhen/Guangzhou.
In a sense, they are trying to sell a product and something as frivolous as branding is a bonus not a necessity.
Shanghai/Zuanshi, Tianjin Seagull, Beijing & other historical Chinese brands have always consistently announced their country of origin with pride.
And they are the ones with actual heritage that re-defined Made-in-China in my book.
The Chinese do understand the names, which is why they chose the most inoffensive ones like 'Binger', 'Carnival' or 'CIGA Design' etc.
Tbh, because Chinese watches are inherently 'foreign', any name they chose would be ridiculed either way or already under patent.
@@possumsam2189Sam, You will need to provide some pretty solid evidence for that claim because I don't believe a word of it.
@@presterjohn71 Could you come up with a better name for these watches?
A name that encapsulates what these watches are about and give them the right amount of character?
Great review, should i get the one with bracelets or rubber strap? Help me out Jody
Awesome review, really tempting! Not a big fan of the case though, I wonder if that dial would fit in a SKX case... :)
Jody's link above takes you to the mineral glass version. LGY do have the sapphire but it is more expensive (obviously). Just 'watch' out for this difference. Jody could you please review a watch that you would not recommend? You're costing me a fortune.
The new San Martin's now have a shark design on crown and caseback and no longer have drilled lugs.
Have you seen this monster Invicta 62MAS homage?. Invicta 29563 Pro Diver Men's 46mm.
No they don't! Just bought one
@@NathanChisholm041
If yours has a divers helmet on the caseback and drilled lugs then it's the older version.
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Thanks for the video. It has a lot of good information in it. Not bad for 200 dollars if it does not fall apart on you. I get nervous with microbrands and never heard of this one. Who knows what the SKS series will go for now that they discontinued it. I have not seen the new Seiko 5 line up or real prices. 4000 dollars is just nuts for a Seiko. I think you can get a nice Grand Seiko USED for that kind of price and a much better watch. or you could get just about any Modern Tudor, Omega, and the list goes on and on. Not sure why Seiko keeps raising prices.
Scott SJ They’re moving “ upmarket “ ,-on the advice of a consultant group who told them they need to go upmarket to compete with smart watches. Smart watches are threatening to do to traditional watches what quartz did to the Swiss.
@@gregsolovieff6711 Smartwatches? Well, the problem with smartwatches is they go out of date. They are already on the 4th generation of the apple watch and who knows how many generations of iPhones and Ipads they have made. A decent watch will last a long time. I think they are just trying to make a larger profit margin. The SKX and Seiko 5 share the same old outdated movement that can't hack or wind it. As far as competing with the swiss that is what the President of Seiko said, they want to complete with the swiss watches with their Grand Seiko watches. The advantage of decent smartwatches is they can track your steps, take your pulse maybe calorie intake. It seems more of a health product to me.
Jody please do a review of the Pagani Design Submariner homage! Im debating whether or not to get one coz the gf may not approve but I fell in love with that hulk homage when I saw it on your AliExpress Video!
Thank you for this video! But I'm itching for that 43 mm Pagani Submariner homage please!
Any chance of reviewing STEEL DIVE Watches from aliexpress . Its cheaper than San Martin and its Seiko homage.
Maybe I should get a sterile and super glue a Seiko logo on it 🤔
I'm thinking the same!!!
😂😂😂
There's aftermarket ebay dials that looks just like the real thing..
Well said
Vintage San Martin!
How does it compare to a Sharkey?
Ordered mine on a bracelet yesterday. Seiko could easily make one that sells for $300 and still have a large margin. They are losing their way
Follow the money, gang. You will always find your answers and motives.
Might of missed it but did you say if it had a screw down crown ? Also couldn’t agree more I have no idea why Seiko didn’t make this!
Yes mate, screw down.
Just One More Watch cheers buddy
I would prefer some sort of dive logo than text or sterile.