I wish I had watched this video before I went on the road.... I still remember my second day on the road... got caught in rush hour traffic on a hill... looked in the rear view mirror, saw this big a$$ bus right behind me and I panicked... i stalled twice, trying to move and the one thing that I am so grateful for was that the bus driver didn't even flinch....how he knew I was I newbie rider, I don't know....but I keep sending up prayers to thank God for the driver's patience that day.... That memory will stay with me for a long time to come... 🙈... 😏
@Smell Good yea but nobody knows what that means. If she had a photojitsu channel people would know they were about to learn how to practice using a video cameras friction zone in a parking lot
Top lesson in this video. I'm just starting out on a 2012 CBR125R and yesterday I was practicing taking off on a hill and not rolling backwards. I noticed that if I keep the RPM at around 3000 and slowly ease out the clutch, there comes a point where the bike stands still (is no longer rolling backwards) and I can step off the rear brake. I just need to give it a little more gas and ease out the clutch to get moving.
Your clear instructions (Stop on a hill > Hold clutch > Rear brake > Add throttle [constant level] > Release clutch until bike wants to move > Go) really relieved my anxiety of stopping on hills. On the top of the hill was the first time my bike almost fell over. I'll try not to panic on hills now.
I have been driving a MT car for several decades and even taught my sister how to start on a hill *many* years ago. About to buy my first cycle and these are my biggest fears: stalling out on a hill and dropping the bike. Or stalling mid-intersection on a hill and in traffic. So, thanks for sharing your technique!
Hi, would like to thank my husband and you for helping me with my driver's license. Passed the test today. NO MORE "L" on my bike (but still in my head). Was a weird year to try and obtain a drivers license with Covid-19 but all the advice from you and all those practicing trips with my husband 👍👍👍 now we can practice more and explore the world.
Amazing video.. I've been doing it wrong the whole time. I've been hesitant about giving the bike that much throttle, thinking that it would wheelie. I got to find me a hill now! Great video! 👍🏾
Thanks, I am just starting to learn and hill starts are something difficult for me, this was a nice simple explanation with great demonstration, really useful!
you are reading my mind. that (beside curves) is my main problem. thank you SO MUCH for this advice. don’t forget people, ed is giving us free advices; some would charge you a lot of $. (forgive my broken english)
This video is probably the best hill video so far. Others have tried but the hills they used were only "gentle inclines". You gave me a little more confidence to purchase a bike now that I've seen how it's done, as I live on a "very very very steep hill".
Thanks for this. I was hopeless on my UK CBT because as a longtime cyclist I always put my right foot down. Changing to left foot down took some getting used to.
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I need to do this on the 900 # Harley. I see that is steep hill, I was surprised by the 3000 to 4000 RPM recommendation for your bike, wondering if the RPM recommendation for the Harley will be the same or more? I got used to the hill hold function on my bike, seems clear I need to learn how to take off from a stop on a steep hill the manual way.
thx so much for your instruction. hill start is my nightmare. you have solved my fear. and thx for camera lady. It is not easy to keep a camera steady on the hillside.👍🏻👍🏻
Hill figure 8 is actually one of the test items in my city, and we had to do it in a much tighter fashion, 2 cars worth of width and 4 cars worth of length. And as beginners (because it is a test items so everyone is a beginners), we aren't taught to nor are we any good to do it with the clutch. We basically just do maintainlence throttle at all time and use rear brake to control power/speed. So it is kinda easy to stall the bike mid way or lose balance because counterweighting as a beginners is just hard af.
I live on a top of hill in a neighborhood, not as steep, and semi-gradual climb, but also does have a gradual curve. So only way I can practice on flat surfaces is if I go down hill then come back up and up a steep driveway. I do not have a bike yet but I have taken an msf course, though I need to retake the evaluation. Getting a bike (Honda Rebel) soon to practice in between. I will definitely need to practice going uphill, so thanks for the demo.
Thanks ...Huge respect for the fluid steep gradient fig 8's at the end....I did another hour of stuff in an empty car park today....I wont try steep hill fig 8 just yet!!!!....One step at a time !
Thanks for the lesson. I asked a San Francisco PD motorcycle officer how they train, constant repetition and putting themselves in almost impossible situations was the answer. I can respect that. Now since you're on hills, can you cover parking on them? Tire on the curb, rear or front, side stand uphill or down?
Saw this pop up in my feed today but I didn't think I would have ventured into an area where there would be uphill start stop. Boy was I wrong... At least this will give me more confidence in using the rear brakes and not stall 3 times in a row.
I live in San Francisco where there are hills all over the place. I’ve been riding for about 6-7 years and for some reason I didn’t think to utilize my rear break for my hill starts until two days ago. When I first started, I just developed this weird front brake throttling technique that was kind of awkward. It did the job, but rear brake is so much easier. Wished I had seen this video sooner 😂
I'm from SF and just got my bike, realized when I was bringing it home that the msf course was only on flat ground lol. Had to improvise while taking it home and did the front brake coordination it wasn't pretty but hopefully this is easier with rear brake!
This is a good video with great explanations. Can you take this one step further and give tips on uphill stop into a left or especially right turn. I have trouble counterbalancing from a stop into a turn while pointed uphill.
Interesting. I bought exactly that bike a week ago. Today a car stopped in front of me on a steep hill negotiating a bicyclist. It all happened slow but in the end I stalled the bike. But ya the rear brake throttle clutch is how I got going again. That Tracer is a lot bigger then the 250L I traded it in for. I spend a couple hours a day practicing in low traffic area's working clutch control,cornering etc. The thing has a lot of power and I respect it. Practice Practice Practice.
@@MotoJitsu I'll check out your site fer sure! If I lived around San Diego I'd be hunting you down pursuing lessons. I ride pretty well but wouldn't be comfortable doing figure 8's on a steep residential street. That takes know how :)
Good lesson!! Much appreciated I got inspired how to U-turn in smooth manner from stop position on uphill. No try immediate U-turn but secure some room for riding first and U-turn on going. No room found ahead? Back a little and make a space.😄
This is really helpful. Can you make a video or recommend how to come in and out of a driveway which joins a road similar to what you have here. I have a similar situation like the driveway you see at 2:59 in this video. I dropped my new bike making a left turn into my driveway and I am looking for a strategy which will be easier for an inexperienced rider like me. 1) While coming out of the driveway on to the street should I plan on making a left turn (uphill) or right (downhill)? 2) While going into the driveway from the street, should I make a left (Uphill) or should I find a way to come in downhill and make a right to my driveway?
Experiment more. Do it both ways over and over and see what works best. No matter what video I have or could make, you’re the one who needs to ride it anyway. Go practice!
@@MotoJitsu Yup the more I think of it the more nervous I am . I think I am going to just have to get it out of my system. No matter how many videos I watch, I am going to have to make my own experience. Thanks for the inspiration.
I Live in a hill area going to and from our house, so I have no choice. I have one stop on a very steep section at main intersection to turn left or right and i have often wondered how am I am going to master this. Your video gave me the answer. Incredible thank you very much
Camera woman was the real hero. Great video. Clears up my anxiety for stop and starts on Hills. I'm a 75 year old man that's returning to riding after an ankle fusion. BMW GS. I need lots of practice. Maybe a lesson?
With all my riding experience this is one thing I need to practice. My current model (vfr800) makes it more difficult turning circle at low speed is not great, I was better with my old 260kg Zx9. Giving it a go today next my new apartment . Australia has some mean hills
Will do my second lesson in two days (first was two days ago on an enclosed testing area - first time on anything bigger than a 50 cc moped - and now on an old beaten up 600cc hornet), and have to drive the bike from the school in the middle of the city to the test center already at the beginning of the second lesson. The road there is pretty much straight, but a lot of intersections and traffic.. and a stop light in the middle of an incline. I'm certain this will help, and has already calmed me down for that part of the ride (if I make it that far, haha).
Those figure 8’s were impressive, Looking behind you to see if car is coming can throw you off too. You have a lot confidence with your skills, i guess that just comes with a lot of practice and knowing the right techniques. Thanks for another great video.
Great video, so far, best practice ever: u-turns and 8's on that hill. It has always seemed harder to go downhill to uphill. Control moto weight (and the passenger) is more difficult when you go down than uphill. Regards from Colombia
Wouldn’t downhills be easier starting tho? Like its possible to just start moving with only clutch downhill. Stopping, you can apply same technique holding your rear brake so it doesn’t move. I don’t see not being able to flat foot being a problem if you can keep motorcycle up with one foot on left side (Opposite from rear brake).
there is a steep short hill near my work issue is there is a set of traffic lights right at the top they are barley green for a second and the traffic can be right up your arse its so scary at times as a new rider ive stalled , and added way to much throttle i think its a confidence thing
Wow, what a great video. On my trip out to go anywhere is a steep hill with a 3-way stop. The drivers here also don’t pay much attention to those twin yellow lines. So, I have inner terror when I approach it. I don’t usually stop but slow down to almost a stop to watch for other cars. You won’t catch me doing “8” s on that hill, a drop off to the lake on one side. I will practice your technique next time.
Hello sir, your videos are very much appreciated. How you teach and demonstrate them is really beginner-friendly, and very effective. Thank you for this. Hope you are doing well.
I guess I learned a non-standard method. I am more comfortable with both feet on the ground and using the front brake. I have found that I can twist the throttle enough while holding the brake and can manage steep hills without issue.
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On a steep hill my front wheel slides back if I only use front brake as not enough weight over it, especially with pillion on back. No problem using back brake as the weight is already over it.
On the CBT in the UK they get you to pull away in 2nd gear on the flat before going out on the roads, as it's easier to stall in 2nd, just like when on a hill in 1st. Cool video, and man, that's a cool looking bike! 😎
Here in the UK because we drive on the left it’s not always possible to cover the rear brake & flat foot your left leg due to the road camber especially on a tall bike. Covering the front brake when setting off on a hill for me is challenging with a heavy GSA.
Thanks for the timeless advice,i was riding about a week ago after a year of not ridings the bike stalled on a hill tried to like 3 times till i got it moving,caused a traffic jam 😂😂 so this advice is very helpful...
Great videos, quality content. I'm getting my 1st bike next week. Only rode a few times before, so will be practicing alot. I've got loads of hills where I stay.
On tall ADV bikes, there will be situations where the rider will have to dab their right foot, thereby not being able to hold the motorcycle on a hill with their rear brake. I would add to this exercise pretending that the Stop sign up the hill is skewed to the Left, forcing the rider to dab their Right Foot down, not have a choice but to use the front brake, and engaging the throttle while the front brake is applied. Thanks!
What about when you are on a super steep hill and at a stop on the hill and have to make a left or right turn from the stop? As a relatively new rider, I get afraid of giving it too much and launching myself into or past the turn I need to make or not enough and stall/ roll backwards.
I love this. Why did I completely forget about the back break? I think when it’s starting I’m scared. I want Total control. Trust the bike trust the bike
Personally, I find the index finger on the front brake easier as it means both feet on the ground for added stability and the ability to select first gear from neutral if required. Plus, the index finger resting on the front brake makes fine throttle control easier whilst moving off.
Seems darn near every traffic light atop an incline goes red just to stick it to me. Last time, I got the clutch and throttle right, but then my brain reached capacity and I forgot to get off the rear brake. Planning to practice so hard this wknd.
Up and down hills don't bother me, but stopping when there is a sideways pitch in the road is horrible. We were riding down US101 on the Oregon coast the 2nd of August, 2022. I was on my 2021 Electra Glide Standard. There was a lot of road construction. One stop in particular was on a banked curve. The light turned red. We are at the line. Then the light turned green, I got ready to move and immediately the light turned red... within seconds of green. I still had my right foot on my rear brake, rims raised a bit to avoid a stall, and had just lifted my left foot when I had to put it down again. The lack of momentum threw me off and over my bike went, sending me rolling down into the oncoming lane... thank goodness there was no traffic. My bike is nearly upside down and it took 4 of us to upright it since I also had it loaded for a 5 day bike trip Anyway, bottom line, a banked stop. What's the best way to approach that to anticipate a stop and avoid what happened to me? Could you do a video on that? Love your content. Your camera lady is fantastic too.
The best thing for you to do is practice starting and stopping on hills like I show in this video....come to a stop front only on the hill then take off again...then stop with rear only, then take off...and go up and down a steep hill over and over again. Nothing else is going to improve your comfort and skill more than repetition.
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He's actually making this more difficult than it needs to be. :) Rev it up, ease out the clutch. Ultimately you only need the rear brake until you have power applied to the rear wheel. The more experience you have the more smoothly you can do the transition. I think that he's actually messing himself up trying to demonstrate the rear brake, but the rear brake is really is a secondary notion here. The emphasis is on clutch and throttle control. The clutch and throttle could be used to hold the bike still on the hill too thanks to our wet clutch, though I wouldn't do this for long just because it's senseless. Don't over think it. Honestly I never really had to practice hills on a bike. It's pretty easy. I can see how learning to do it in a car would be more difficult because the clutch can't be slipped, but on a bike the clutch is usually designed to be slipped.
Also, I advise using the front brake to stop instead. It's a bit easier to get onto as you come to a stop. On flat ground it's not really significant (front brake is always more effective to stop with good traction, but I mean when you're stopping on flat ground you generally are in better control of where the bike is leaning), but if you happen to stop with the bike leaned slightly to the right you're going to need to catch it with your right leg which will be pretty hard if your leg is instinctively jumping onto the rear brake instead. It's a lot less movement required to go from throttle to front brake than from rear brake to ground. :)
Once had a problem on a steep hill, thing is, I was on neutral and couldn't let go of the rear brake as my front brake literally slides fast when I use it exclusively... I couldn't shift to gear 1 because my foot was firmly on the rear brake, ended up sliding when I attempted to shift to gear 1 with the front brake on and fell 🤦 . Shoud've had someone else press the gear while I held the rear brake
Stopping down the very steep hill is always quite scary though, since never sure if I'll be able to reach the ground haha (short legs). Practicing the butt off , leg hold (the one you showed) stopping for short legs though helps :D nice circles at the end! Definitely great to practice (before on flat haha).
Another super-usefull vídeo for me, my island is only these hills, up and down. 👌👌👌 some roads here are like a U and them are dificult to me because i start going down and imidiatly starts up...
Greg, had an accident trying to do this manuever as a beginner. Incline at a T having to turn left with people behind me. Broken hand bone. Ouch. Thanks!!!
I’m running into issues in my area with a road ending into a hill-road going down to the left. My first attempt at stopping there I rolled down the hill because the camber was such on the first road that me putting my left foot down, made the bike too heavy. Any tips on stopping with your left foot down in these situations? Or how to identify them without first dropping the bike?
I’m very much a newbie. I went for a ride in East county San Diego on a gorgeous day with crisp clear views of downtown, ocean and beyond. Stopping to admire and/or take pics I then found myself having to start a little or a lot uphill quite a few times. 😬 I was kinda nervous but hey, gotta practice! (Didn’t stall or roll back too far, but I need to get more smooth!)
I found this difficult on my forward control cruiser, because it is so heavy, having my foot forward doesn’t help keeping the bike upright when stationary
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I wish I had watched this video before I went on the road.... I still remember my second day on the road... got caught in rush hour traffic on a hill... looked in the rear view mirror, saw this big a$$ bus right behind me and I panicked... i stalled twice, trying to move and the one thing that I am so grateful for was that the bus driver didn't even flinch....how he knew I was I newbie rider, I don't know....but I keep sending up prayers to thank God for the driver's patience that day.... That memory will stay with me for a long time to come... 🙈... 😏
Takes time to get good at hills 👍🏼
Do you not have L plates in the US that inidicates you're a learner?
I had the same thing happened this weekend. I’m so grateful for this video 😭
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Just bought my first bike a couple days ago and started a rewatch of all your "beginners guides" to improve my practice!
Thanks!! :)
The camera lady deserves a million dollars for being so patient
She always is
@@MotoJitsu it might be time for her to start a channel. Photojitsu
@Smell Good yea but nobody knows what that means. If she had a photojitsu channel people would know they were about to learn how to practice using a video cameras friction zone in a parking lot
Wow such great people!!
She got a workout walking up that hill.
Top lesson in this video.
I'm just starting out on a 2012 CBR125R and yesterday I was practicing taking off on a hill and not rolling backwards.
I noticed that if I keep the RPM at around 3000 and slowly ease out the clutch, there comes a point where the bike stands still (is no longer rolling backwards) and I can step off the rear brake.
I just need to give it a little more gas and ease out the clutch to get moving.
Your clear instructions (Stop on a hill > Hold clutch > Rear brake > Add throttle [constant level] > Release clutch until bike wants to move > Go) really relieved my anxiety of stopping on hills. On the top of the hill was the first time my bike almost fell over.
I'll try not to panic on hills now.
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In the UK we teach the same emphasis on the rear brake. I like your raw footage with natural environments and nothing made up. Great Channel!!
Thanks! :)
Great video. I do feel compelled to mention that I love that the camera operator walking up the hill was not cut. The efforts were not in vein.
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I have been driving a MT car for several decades and even taught my sister how to start on a hill *many* years ago. About to buy my first cycle and these are my biggest fears: stalling out on a hill and dropping the bike. Or stalling mid-intersection on a hill and in traffic. So, thanks for sharing your technique!
You're welcome!
Hi, would like to thank my husband and you for helping me with my driver's license. Passed the test today. NO MORE "L" on my bike (but still in my head). Was a weird year to try and obtain a drivers license with Covid-19 but all the advice from you and all those practicing trips with my husband 👍👍👍 now we can practice more and explore the world.
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Amazing video.. I've been doing it wrong the whole time. I've been hesitant about giving the bike that much throttle, thinking that it would wheelie. I got to find me a hill now! Great video! 👍🏾
Go practice!! ;)
The video you were missing. Is an art to be able to stop on a hill. I am not an expert but now thanks to your videos I am a better rider.
PRACTICE! :)
Thanks, I am just starting to learn and hill starts are something difficult for me, this was a nice simple explanation with great demonstration, really useful!
Glad it was helpful! Now go practice!!!!!
you are reading my mind. that (beside curves) is my main problem. thank you SO MUCH for this advice. don’t forget people, ed is giving us free advices; some would charge you a lot of $. (forgive my broken english)
You're welcome!
This video is probably the best hill video so far. Others have tried but the hills they used were only "gentle inclines".
You gave me a little more confidence to purchase a bike now that I've seen how it's done, as I live on a "very very very steep hill".
Now get out there and practice!
Dude I love your video’s. I have +400k miles on bikes and am still learning. It’s all a journey.
I was actually practicing something very similar yesterday.
Thanks for the extra pointers.
Love your vids man
You're welcome!!
I like the u-turns and 8's on the hill :-D
So much fun! :)
I just got a Vstrom and quite new to riding. Your videos are insanely helpful. For what it’s worth, thank you!
Thanks for this. I was hopeless on my UK CBT because as a longtime cyclist I always put my right foot down. Changing to left foot down took some getting used to.
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I was getting ready to comment, "what about U-turns on a hill like that?" It's like you read my mind.
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I need to do this on the 900 # Harley. I see that is steep hill, I was surprised by the 3000 to 4000 RPM recommendation for your bike, wondering if the RPM recommendation for the Harley will be the same or more? I got used to the hill hold function on my bike, seems clear I need to learn how to take off from a stop on a steep hill the manual way.
As a motorcycle rider in Seattle, i can tell you that this video is worth its time in gold.
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thx so much for your instruction. hill start is my nightmare. you have solved my fear. and thx for camera lady. It is not easy to keep a camera steady on the hillside.👍🏻👍🏻
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At first I was using my front brake. In class they teach to use the back brake as you are showing.
Thanks again!
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You’re an Amazing teacher!
Wow, thank you!
This could be a song
The rear brake (the rear brake)
Will hold you still (hold you still)
On a hill (hill hill hill)
On a hill
hahahahaa
Anything can be a song. To be a great song it's missing some interesting chords or notes. :)
I live on a hill steeper than that, so I have no choice but to practice it A LOT. Just got my first bike, the hill is pretty scary.
Practice!!
Hill figure 8 is actually one of the test items in my city, and we had to do it in a much tighter fashion, 2 cars worth of width and 4 cars worth of length.
And as beginners (because it is a test items so everyone is a beginners), we aren't taught to nor are we any good to do it with the clutch. We basically just do maintainlence throttle at all time and use rear brake to control power/speed. So it is kinda easy to stall the bike mid way or lose balance because counterweighting as a beginners is just hard af.
I live on a top of hill in a neighborhood, not as steep, and semi-gradual climb, but also does have a gradual curve. So only way I can practice on flat surfaces is if I go down hill then come back up and up a steep driveway. I do not have a bike yet but I have taken an msf course, though I need to retake the evaluation. Getting a bike (Honda Rebel) soon to practice in between. I will definitely need to practice going uphill, so thanks for the demo.
Thanks ...Huge respect for the fluid steep gradient fig 8's at the end....I did another hour of stuff in an empty car park today....I wont try steep hill fig 8 just yet!!!!....One step at a time !
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Good tips thanks! I always get nervous on a hill between cars in traffic. I have stalled a few times.
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Thanks for the lesson. I asked a San Francisco PD motorcycle officer how they train, constant repetition and putting themselves in almost impossible situations was the answer. I can respect that. Now since you're on hills, can you cover parking on them? Tire on the curb, rear or front, side stand uphill or down?
You're welcome. I would never park on a hill, or encourage anyone to do it. Just park somewhere else.
Awesome tutorial!! I live in an apartment with steep hills, and this video will help and inspire me learn to ride up and down hills.
Glad it was helpful!
Saw this pop up in my feed today but I didn't think I would have ventured into an area where there would be uphill start stop. Boy was I wrong... At least this will give me more confidence in using the rear brakes and not stall 3 times in a row.
Awesome!
This is a HUGE help, I’ll give this a try when I’m on a steep hill!
I live in San Francisco where there are hills all over the place. I’ve been riding for about 6-7 years and for some reason I didn’t think to utilize my rear break for my hill starts until two days ago. When I first started, I just developed this weird front brake throttling technique that was kind of awkward. It did the job, but rear brake is so much easier. Wished I had seen this video sooner 😂
I'm from SF and just got my bike, realized when I was bringing it home that the msf course was only on flat ground lol. Had to improvise while taking it home and did the front brake coordination it wasn't pretty but hopefully this is easier with rear brake!
I had to learn this out of necessity last weekend. It would have been nice to know ahead of time😂. Thanks for this video.
Glad it was helpful!
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Thank you for this video! I struggled with this exact thing, stalling my bike an embarrassing number of times. But not anymore!
This is a good video with great explanations. Can you take this one step further and give tips on uphill stop into a left or especially right turn. I have trouble counterbalancing from a stop into a turn while pointed uphill.
Thanks. Same thing applies, start moving forward then just turn like you would if you weren’t stopped.
Interesting. I bought exactly that bike a week ago. Today a car stopped in front of me on a steep hill negotiating a bicyclist. It all happened slow but in the end I stalled the bike. But ya the rear brake throttle clutch is how I got going again. That Tracer is a lot bigger then the 250L I traded it in for. I spend a couple hours a day practicing in low traffic area's working clutch control,cornering etc. The thing has a lot of power and I respect it. Practice Practice Practice.
Keep at it!
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@@MotoJitsu I'll check out your site fer sure! If I lived around San Diego I'd be hunting you down pursuing lessons. I ride pretty well but wouldn't be comfortable doing figure 8's on a steep residential street. That takes know how :)
Good lesson!! Much appreciated
I got inspired how to U-turn in smooth manner from stop position on uphill. No try immediate U-turn but secure some room for riding first and U-turn on going. No room found ahead? Back a little and make a space.😄
You're welcome!
This is really helpful. Can you make a video or recommend how to come in and out of a driveway which joins a road similar to what you have here. I have a similar situation like the driveway you see at 2:59 in this video. I dropped my new bike making a left turn into my driveway and I am looking for a strategy which will be easier for an inexperienced rider like me.
1) While coming out of the driveway on to the street should I plan on making a left turn (uphill) or right (downhill)?
2) While going into the driveway from the street, should I make a left (Uphill) or should I find a way to come in downhill and make a right to my driveway?
Experiment more. Do it both ways over and over and see what works best. No matter what video I have or could make, you’re the one who needs to ride it anyway. Go practice!
@@MotoJitsu Yup the more I think of it the more nervous I am . I think I am going to just have to get it out of my system. No matter how many videos I watch, I am going to have to make my own experience. Thanks for the inspiration.
Surprisingly few instructionals on this - well done, and thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I Live in a hill area going to and from our house, so I have no choice. I have one stop on a very steep section at main intersection to turn left or right and i have often wondered how am I am going to master this. Your video gave me the answer. Incredible thank you very much
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Camera woman was the real hero. Great video. Clears up my anxiety for stop and starts on Hills.
I'm a 75 year old man that's returning to riding after an ankle fusion. BMW GS.
I need lots of practice. Maybe a lesson?
Lots of practice is correct :)
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thanks now put it to use by getting some tennis balls and cut them in half and go set it up and practice!!!!!!!
With all my riding experience this is one thing I need to practice. My current model (vfr800) makes it more difficult turning circle at low speed is not great, I was better with my old 260kg Zx9. Giving it a go today next my new apartment . Australia has some mean hills
Get to it!
Was gonna ask you to do a video on U turns on a hill, but you read my mind.
Thanks Eddie.
You're welcome!! Share it :)
Will do my second lesson in two days (first was two days ago on an enclosed testing area - first time on anything bigger than a 50 cc moped - and now on an old beaten up 600cc hornet), and have to drive the bike from the school in the middle of the city to the test center already at the beginning of the second lesson. The road there is pretty much straight, but a lot of intersections and traffic.. and a stop light in the middle of an incline. I'm certain this will help, and has already calmed me down for that part of the ride (if I make it that far, haha).
Those figure 8’s were impressive, Looking behind you to see if car is coming can throw you off too. You have a lot confidence with your skills, i guess that just comes with a lot of practice and knowing the right techniques. Thanks for another great video.
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Being a newbie rider ,this has answered a lot!
Thank you so much for this lesson.
Exactly what needed to be instructed ! God bless
Thanks for this video bro! This made me more confident whenever I'm on an incline road!
thanks for the great tip, was always thinking about this, and thank you Mrs. jitsu for the patience and workoout
Great video, so far, best practice ever: u-turns and 8's on that hill.
It has always seemed harder to go downhill to uphill. Control moto weight (and the passenger) is more difficult when you go down than uphill.
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Thanks!!
One of the most informative guide and problem solver to those having issues on bike riding.Thank you so much Sir
Happy to help
Thank you. We have a little uphill part of the road in front of the gate towards the street, so I can practice every day :).
Great video, thank you! What about stopping and starting downhill?? Especially if you cannot flat foot your bike??
You can always flat foot your bike, just use one foot. ruclips.net/video/OLBk6tX049s/видео.html
Wouldn’t downhills be easier starting tho? Like its possible to just start moving with only clutch downhill.
Stopping, you can apply same technique holding your rear brake so it doesn’t move. I don’t see not being able to flat foot being a problem if you can keep motorcycle up with one foot on left side (Opposite from rear brake).
Great video, stalled at traffic lights this morning, felt a rite prat, got a hill rite by me, i,ll be there tomorrow, thank you..
Thanks for this video. I could watch this hundred times to boost my confidence,soooo afraid to stop on that kind of hill 😞
You're welcome, go practice!
Thank you so much! 🤛🏽
there is a steep short hill near my work issue is there is a set of traffic lights right at the top they are barley green for a second and the traffic can be right up your arse its so scary at times as a new rider ive stalled , and added way to much throttle i think its a confidence thing
Wow, what a great video. On my trip out to go anywhere is a steep hill with a 3-way stop. The drivers here also don’t pay much attention to those twin yellow lines. So, I have inner terror when I approach it. I don’t usually stop but slow down to almost a stop to watch for other cars. You won’t catch me doing “8” s on that hill, a drop off to the lake on one side. I will practice your technique next time.
Thanks :)
Hello sir, your videos are very much appreciated. How you teach and demonstrate them is really beginner-friendly, and very effective. Thank you for this. Hope you are doing well.
Thanks 😊
Another Great Video!!!! Thanks. Nice job on the figure 8's on the hill btw. Very cool to see
:) fun stuff!
I guess I learned a non-standard method. I am more comfortable with both feet on the ground and using the front brake. I have found that I can twist the throttle enough while holding the brake and can manage steep hills without issue.
More than one way to do one thing :)
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On a steep hill my front wheel slides back if I only use front brake as not enough weight over it, especially with pillion on back. No problem using back brake as the weight is already over it.
Where I stay there are many hills. Thanks for sharing this. Appreciate it 👍🏻
No problem 👍
On the CBT in the UK they get you to pull away in 2nd gear on the flat before going out on the roads, as it's easier to stall in 2nd, just like when on a hill in 1st. Cool video, and man, that's a cool looking bike! 😎
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Here in the UK because we drive on the left it’s not always possible to cover the rear brake & flat foot your left leg due to the road camber especially on a tall bike. Covering the front brake when setting off on a hill for me is challenging with a heavy GSA.
Many ways to do one thing
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Thanks for the timeless advice,i was riding about a week ago after a year of not ridings the bike stalled on a hill tried to like 3 times till i got it moving,caused a traffic jam 😂😂 so this advice is very helpful...
♥️👍🏼 now go practice!
Thank you. I remember asking about a video about this. 👍👍
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Great videos, quality content. I'm getting my 1st bike next week. Only rode a few times before, so will be practicing alot. I've got loads of hills where I stay.
On tall ADV bikes, there will be situations where the rider will have to dab their right foot, thereby not being able to hold the motorcycle on a hill with their rear brake. I would add to this exercise pretending that the Stop sign up the hill is skewed to the Left, forcing the rider to dab their Right Foot down, not have a choice but to use the front brake, and engaging the throttle while the front brake is applied. Thanks!
Learn to stop and take off on a hill with rear, front, or just clutch
@@MotoJitsu Yep, I practice stopping and taking off on hills - using rear, front, clutch - on a regular basis. Thanks!
What about when you are on a super steep hill and at a stop on the hill and have to make a left or right turn from the stop? As a relatively new rider, I get afraid of giving it too much and launching myself into or past the turn I need to make or not enough and stall/ roll backwards.
I love your videos. Great lesson thanks
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Happy and grateful for this vid. Helps take mind off of stressful current events vis a vis election results. Thanks!
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I love this. Why did I completely forget about the back break? I think when it’s starting I’m scared. I want Total control. Trust the bike trust the bike
Personally, I find the index finger on the front brake easier as it means both feet on the ground for added stability and the ability to select first gear from neutral if required. Plus, the index finger resting on the front brake makes fine throttle control easier whilst moving off.
Many ways to do one thing..get good at every way.
@@MotoJitsu Indeed! I shall practice the footbrake technique and add it to my arsenal. :)
Seems darn near every traffic light atop an incline goes red just to stick it to me. Last time, I got the clutch and throttle right, but then my brain reached capacity and I forgot to get off the rear brake. Planning to practice so hard this wknd.
Up and down hills don't bother me, but stopping when there is a sideways pitch in the road is horrible.
We were riding down US101 on the Oregon coast the 2nd of August, 2022.
I was on my 2021 Electra Glide Standard.
There was a lot of road construction. One stop in particular was on a banked curve.
The light turned red. We are at the line. Then the light turned green, I got ready to move and immediately the light turned red... within seconds of green.
I still had my right foot on my rear brake, rims raised a bit to avoid a stall, and had just lifted my left foot when I had to put it down again.
The lack of momentum threw me off and over my bike went, sending me rolling down into the oncoming lane... thank goodness there was no traffic.
My bike is nearly upside down and it took 4 of us to upright it since I also had it loaded for a 5 day bike trip
Anyway, bottom line, a banked stop. What's the best way to approach that to anticipate a stop and avoid what happened to me? Could you do a video on that?
Love your content. Your camera lady is fantastic too.
The best thing for you to do is practice starting and stopping on hills like I show in this video....come to a stop front only on the hill then take off again...then stop with rear only, then take off...and go up and down a steep hill over and over again. Nothing else is going to improve your comfort and skill more than repetition.
I'm learning how to ride thx to you this is being so much easier thx man for your work
Really helpful, thanks for this 🏍️
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This is really helpful! Thank you so much! ❤ I'm a beginner and struggling with it
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Thanks Greg.....great help‼️👌
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He's actually making this more difficult than it needs to be. :) Rev it up, ease out the clutch. Ultimately you only need the rear brake until you have power applied to the rear wheel. The more experience you have the more smoothly you can do the transition. I think that he's actually messing himself up trying to demonstrate the rear brake, but the rear brake is really is a secondary notion here. The emphasis is on clutch and throttle control. The clutch and throttle could be used to hold the bike still on the hill too thanks to our wet clutch, though I wouldn't do this for long just because it's senseless. Don't over think it. Honestly I never really had to practice hills on a bike. It's pretty easy. I can see how learning to do it in a car would be more difficult because the clutch can't be slipped, but on a bike the clutch is usually designed to be slipped.
Also, I advise using the front brake to stop instead. It's a bit easier to get onto as you come to a stop. On flat ground it's not really significant (front brake is always more effective to stop with good traction, but I mean when you're stopping on flat ground you generally are in better control of where the bike is leaning), but if you happen to stop with the bike leaned slightly to the right you're going to need to catch it with your right leg which will be pretty hard if your leg is instinctively jumping onto the rear brake instead. It's a lot less movement required to go from throttle to front brake than from rear brake to ground. :)
There's many ways to do one thing, I find this the easiest way to begin learning...I often stop on hills and don't use the brakes at all.
Once had a problem on a steep hill, thing is, I was on neutral and couldn't let go of the rear brake as my front brake literally slides fast when I use it exclusively... I couldn't shift to gear 1 because my foot was firmly on the rear brake, ended up sliding when I attempted to shift to gear 1 with the front brake on and fell 🤦 . Shoud've had someone else press the gear while I held the rear brake
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Jeez dude every riding question I have, you have a video on it. Thank you for doing this.
Stopping down the very steep hill is always quite scary though, since never sure if I'll be able to reach the ground haha (short legs). Practicing the butt off , leg hold (the one you showed) stopping for short legs though helps :D nice circles at the end! Definitely great to practice (before on flat haha).
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Thank you for this tutorial video
Another super-usefull vídeo for me, my island is only these hills, up and down. 👌👌👌 some roads here are like a U and them are dificult to me because i start going down and imidiatly starts up...
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Greg, had an accident trying to do this manuever as a beginner. Incline at a T having to turn left with people behind me. Broken hand bone. Ouch. Thanks!!!
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I absolutely love that he didn’t edit out the camera lady’s walking! 👏🏻😁
I’m running into issues in my area with a road ending into a hill-road going down to the left. My first attempt at stopping there I rolled down the hill because the camber was such on the first road that me putting my left foot down, made the bike too heavy. Any tips on stopping with your left foot down in these situations? Or how to identify them without first dropping the bike?
Whatever foot you put down, make sure your bike is upright, therefore weightless.
Helpful video! Hope one day I'm able to do the figure 8 on hill as skillful as you do.
Interesting and very useful ! Thank you
I’m very much a newbie. I went for a ride in East county San Diego on a gorgeous day with crisp clear views of downtown, ocean and beyond. Stopping to admire and/or take pics I then found myself having to start a little or a lot uphill quite a few times. 😬 I was kinda nervous but hey, gotta practice! (Didn’t stall or roll back too far, but I need to get more smooth!)
Find a relatively easy hill and practice what I say in this video :)
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I found this difficult on my forward control cruiser, because it is so heavy, having my foot forward doesn’t help keeping the bike upright when stationary
Can you pull off on a hill with your front brack??
I find it not so hard or is it bad to user your frount break
Great video! How do you park a motorcycle on a step incline?