"And so we come to the final incredible page. And this page, I think, is the closest we have ever come, in any work of art, to experiencing the very act of dying, of giving it all up. The slowness of this page is terrifying: Adagissimo, he writes, the slowest possible musical direction; and then langsam (slow), ersterbend (dying-away), zögern (hesitating); and as if all those were not enough to indicate the near stoppage of time, he adds äusserst langsam (extremely slow) in the very last bars. It is terrifying, and paralyzing, as the strands of sound disintegrate. We hold on to them, hovering between hope and submission. And one by one, these spidery strands connecting us to life melt away, vanish from our fingers even as we hold them. We cling to them as they dematerialize; we are holding two -- then one. One, and suddenly none. For a petrifying moment there is only silence. Then again, a strand, a broken strand, two strands, one . . . none. We are 'half in love with easeful death . . . now more than ever seems it rich to die, to cease upon the midnight with no pain' . . . And in ceasing, we lose it all. But in letting go, we have gained everything." - Bernstein (on the finale of Mahler's Ninth Symphony)
“It’s dark because you are trying too hard. Lightly child, lightly. Learn to do everything lightly. Yes, feel lightly even though you’re feeling deeply. Just lightly let things happen and lightly cope with them. I was so preposterously serious in those days, such a humorless little prig. Lightly, lightly - it’s the best advice ever given me. When it comes to dying even. Nothing ponderous, or portentous, or emphatic. No rhetoric, no tremolos, no self conscious persona putting on its celebrated imitation of Christ or Little Nell. And of course, no theology, no metaphysics. Just the fact of dying and the fact of the clear light. So throw away your baggage and go forward. There are quicksands all about you, sucking at your feet, trying to suck you down into fear and self-pity and despair. That’s why you must walk so lightly. Lightly my darling, on tiptoes and no luggage, not even a sponge bag, completely unencumbered.” ― Aldous Huxley, Island
This is just one music interpretation of the act of giving everything up and the finality of death . Bruckners 9th symphony is especially brilliant at expressing this sensitive issue infact even more dramatic.Both composers were obsessed with the process of dying......
The end of an Age, yes. Innocence once lost can never be regained and yet what is it that remains? I would like to suggest that "we" some how are growing up. But then again, I'm a idealist. I've been wrong before. Sorry about that. And yes, I believe we cannot go backwards in order to find our way forward. What a master work this is. What a supreme work of realization and revelation. What an insight upon human nature. What dreams may come? The voice of Calliope and her sister speak... even more clearly in the Great Silences. Blessings on all of us dear Phil. It's the Forth of July, my birthday, and also that of Charles Ives, the founder of the Prudential Live Insurance Company. Oh yeah, America (USA) too! Have a great day. Blessings, moi
The beautiful thing about watching Lenny was that he just left the world when he conducted Mahler. He was totally immersed - physically - in the music and he just hung it all out there for us mortals to see. His body gives listeners like me cues to listening. Even on the podium he was teaching without knowing it. He was definitely one of the greats. He did it all. Not many others can make that statement. A tremendous film, really. Thanks!
The 4th movement absolutely takes your breath away and reaches into the deepest depths of your soul. The capitulation at the end, as those last dying breaths of music fade into nothingness...tranquil in their exit...acceptance of the inevitable...and peacefully fading into the next life.
That section from 1:05:51 to 1:06:52 is my favorite part, especially with that volcanic eruption of those horns! 😍😍 Such an immense, raw, and emotionally charged build-up that never ceases to give me chills down my entire spine. I think Mahler knew he was nearing the end. Even if he didn't, this was still one incredible "farewell" to the world! 👏🏽👏🏽
Real Barbershop Talk: I have served honorably in the Marine Corps with my love for Classical music from High School via College and performing on Stage. Yes, lots of people love Chopin, The Beeth; but for me its Mahler. Symphony #5 3rd Movement and Symphony #9. The 4th Movement I love. I recall it was describe as.."A Human holding on a Ice Cube and its 100 Degrees outside. The Cube represents "LIFE". The Human is trying to HOLD On that that Ice as long as he/she can...until it slowly melts away. Then..it is gone. #AlwaysMahlerFan
I. (Andante comodo) 0:48 II. (Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers. Etwas täppisch und sehr derb) 28:20 III. (Rondo-Burleske: Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig) 44:37 IV. (Adagio. Sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend) 56:24
Ні, це не музика - це щось набагато більше, ніж музика; це зверхмузика; це музичний абсолют; це ядро Всесвіту і в той же час його вершина, його апогей!!! І що характерно - характерно те, що ця музика не сприймається слухом, а лише органами почуттів, і при цьому вмикається все-все-все підсвідоме.
Mahler is the only composer that writes about the human mind and heart. The bitterness in our hearts are portrayed here and only here-the masterpiece. Thank you, Mahler. You are my role model. Your music shall run in me forever.
As perplexed, with Brahms, standing on the bridge, wondering if their music would flow into the future as does the stream of water. Assuredly, the music continues to flow into our souls.
merci beaucoup pour cette merveilleuse vidéo qui me permet de voir la direction sensible et imprégnée de Lenny sur cette symphonie de Mahler que je ne connaissais pas, le dernier mouvement, l'adagio, sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend me touche particulièrement. Thanks a lot for this wonderful film which enables me to watch the so sensitive direction of Lenny as if he was living the symphony of Mahler, particularly the last movement, Adagio, sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend which moves me extremely.
I believe Mahler is musically describing the perfect death in the Adagio. Complete final relinquishment is demonstrated here in musical form. Have no fear.
I can't state enough how awesome the 9th is. The fourth movement only takes 15 pages in the full score, mainly because the instrumentation is a bit scarce compared to the other movements (it starts all on strings) and the tempo is slower. Still an amazing 15 pages to study. I just love the alteration/modulation in the cellos/double bass in the main theme that comes back multiple times during the movement, it gets to me every time. 56:56
Mahler, of course, writes admirably for the orchestra. We feel the pleasure to conduct this music when looking at L; Bernstein. His ninth symphony - a quite complex score - is a model of transparency. His recording is a jewel. Here, we have the chance to look at the play of the instrumentists in the orchestra.
So cool to see the VPO playing in the BPO's home turf. I have Bernstein's only recording with the BPO doing this same symphony. Supposedly, Karajan waited till after Lennie had rehearsed and performed this piece before he himself recorded it. Too bad there are only about 2 camera angles.
Dans l'ombre, le chef d'orchestre est en quête de perfection Il impulse le tempo et les fait inlassablement répéter pour atteindre l'harmonie L 'énergie véhiculée par le son circule entre lui et les musiciens Les porter puis se laisser porter par eux Lorsque la fausse note arrive, Le silence est une pause nécessaire Une respiration pour écouter, comprendre Pour retrouver la confiance et le plaisir de jouer ensemble Puis dans un nouvel acte, se transcender... Oui, le silence nous garde, nous préserve et c'est très bien ainsi!!
Très bien ressenti et exprimé ! Mais sauriez vous par hasard où était donné ce concert ? Ce n'est pas précisé. Merci pour votre réponse à un fan de Lenny !
That cymbal player waited ages for his moment and then made the most of it! very important part. Tremendous patience and observance-staying alert, waiting for your big moment.
I love how most appreciative comments any music fan makes also includes some sort of condensation against the "other". A constant violent construction of ones identity based on ones musical taste and through exclusion.
This is a very great work, here are some parts that I like. •The Straussian chaos in parts of the first movement •The two inner movements are fun. The Rondo Burleske has nice dissonance at parts. •The last movement is the most beautiful music can get.
I was listening to this while working. Occasionally the music would fully register in my mind, but not often. It reached the final movement, and as the orchestra slowly built, faded, and died, it barely registered in my mind. It was there, it was moving, but I wasn't there. It was only in the cacophony of silence that followed that I realized that it was over, and that I had missed the very thing that I had originally come for. I had squandered beauty on business. The thing that I had wanted passed me by because I was careless, and only in its absence do I want it. For all the platitudes, it still feels more real than anything has in a long time.
I used to think the 3rd’s finale was better than the 9th’s but that was because I was very busy with school and listened to the 3rd’s finale when I had time. After re-listening to this finale when I had time, I became near speechless. It’s incredibly beautiful, almost like it was written with the pen of God. Now I think the 9th is better, and like you I was too busy doing stuff in order to fully take in the music. Satie was right about “furniture music”.
attended Bernstein and the VPO for this at the Hollywood Bowl in the early 90s. It was beautiful, wondrous. I was about 20 at the time. A 'best' memory of my life...
The loss of Innocence. Death without dying. Life without hope. Never again will I come into this world. It's history is written in blood, blood that cannot be washed away by either time or distance. I never wanted this. Since today (July 4th) is my birthday, I think I'll listen to a little.... Bless all of you and Lenny where ever you are who brought this might work together. Excellence remains... and cannot be denied. Even unto the ends of time. Chopin's Nocturnes, Bach's Organ Works, Satie's Gymnopdies, and yes, this work by Gustav shall most likely outlast us all. You can already hear it in the Silence. Do I hear laughter in this sunrise? Our sunrise. Is it our laughter or does this laughter rise from another generation yet to come? Am I (we) a victim or a merely a survivor? Or something else entirely. Blessings upon us all... this day and from this day forward. Moi
As does Brahms and Tchaikovsky as a music professor has demonstrated to me. Cannot find Brahms 2nd with Bernstein and Vienna posted anymore, but much discussion about a lonely soul. This and his (Mahler's) 1st are two of the most magnificent "soulful" pieces of music I can find, in my opinion. if a composer can touch our soul, then he/she has had success. Even if it is more than 100 years later! If only Mahler knew what we are sharing. I understand that one of Mahler's concerns was about music (his and other's) which might continue to live.
I had listened to Bernstein's lecture about this piece, and I can't see why he thinks that it has to do with 3 kinds of death. 1st one being what Mahler saw about his own death. I find it a very beautiful piece despite the fact of how long it is. Symphony number 3 is by far the longest with 6.. count them.. 6 movements. The 5th movement being the shortest. Thanks a lot for posting this guys.
Celebration of life rather than contemplation of death? We know that tragedies struck him as they do with all of us, but his expressional output was music. I find many meanings of our moments of life in this piece. The third movement (to me) as allegro assai is more celebratory than funereal. I wish I could find the quote of a music professor sharing that Mahler and Brahms were standing on a bridge and it was Brahms who woefully asked if their music would endure time, to which Mahler said something to the effect of 'it is like the water, it will flow forever". Not all of life's events end in a major chord crescendo.
Mahler, à son zénith, Bernstein, au sien ! Mais sauriez vous par hasard où était donné ce concert ? Ce n'est pas indiqué. Merci pour votre réponse à un fan de Lenny !
La interpretación musical seguirá siendo la misma. Lo que si ha avanzado de manera significativa es la forma cómo se captura el audio y el vídeo. Antes se utilizaban medios analógicos (vinilo y cintas magnéticas). Hoy la tecnología digital ha revolucionado la calidad en la grabación de este tipo de eventos. Un saludo cordial y respetuoso.
Sr. estamos hablando idiomas totalmente diferente, yo no me refiero a los medios técnicos empleados para una determinada grabación que evidentemente esos han cambiado yo, a lo que me refiero es al contenido interpretativo y mire este aspecto, no es el mismo nunca, jamás, ni con el mismo director y orquesta un día y al siguiente. Me comprende ahora?
Conducting is fun..... when the baton becomes one of the instruments of the orchestra. Knowing that every musician is equally important contributing to the expression of the piece.
So this is where all the people who can make a RUclips post without being offensive/racist/abusive/etc. come? Must come here more often. Mahler's 9th - drawn here by it's reference in St Elmo's Fire, and very glad I was. Great stuff :)
I. Andante comodo...................................................................................00:37 II. Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers. Etwas täppisch und sehr derb....28:19 III. Rondo-Burleske: Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig...........................................44:38 IV. Adagio: Sehr langsam und noch zuruckhaltend......................................56:21
+pokejing I. Andante comodo................................................................................... 00:37 II. Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers. Etwas täppisch und sehr derb.... 28:19 III. Rondo-Burleske: Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig........................................... 44:38 IV. Adagio: Sehr langsam und noch zuruckhaltend...................................... 56:21
Mahler is one of my favorite composers, but he's an acquired taste for many. There's no need to judge someone who doesn't like this music. I personally prefer the five movement 10th Symphony whose Finale moves me far more than the Finale of the Ninth Symphony.
Very interesting seating position of string section. If I see this correctly, from left to right, Bernstein has 1st violins, 2nd violins, violoncellos and violas on the right most, with basses behind the violas. Anyone here has any background info on how this seating position came across? For example, Gergiev does 1st violins, violas, cellos and 2nd violins. There is no doubt who is the conductor that came the closest to what Mahler is, but just wondering if that is also something Mahler himself intended. Any info would be gladly appreciated!
I too thank you, Mateus, for posting this wonderful performance - such a treat for those of us who never saw Bernstein conduct. I pity Ron Walker below, who found himself in the desert of incomprehension. And Ron, for future reference, you got the quote wrong, the author wrong - and why show off your failure to feel something?
"It is terrifying, and paralyzing, as the strands of sound disintegrate ... in ceasing, we lose it all. But in letting go, we have gained everything." -- Leonard Bernstein, re: Mahler's 9th
Mateus - can you advise when this was recorded , the orchestra + date. the music is astonishing ! i also love Barshai's 9th on BIS. that digs deep also.
Henry-Louis de La Grange's final volume of his Mahler biography pretty much dispels the myth of the dying Mahler writing his swansong about his impending death. Bernstein's philosophical and historical interpretation of the meaning of the music, what he said about it, is dated now in many ways, though his musical sense of the score and how he conducted it is unquestionably great and indelible. I recommend this book; it will reshape the way you hear, and think about, the Ninth.
You are absolutely right: Mahler was healthy physically and mentally when he composed the Ninth as well as the astonishing draft of his nearly 2000 measure Tenth, the entire 5 movements composed in a burst of creative vigor in July and August of 1910. And the glorious Finale of the Tenth is quite different from the bitter sweet ending of Das Lied von der Erde, and the heartbreaking Finale of the Ninth.
Stunning performance ! Maybe a tad too slow at the end. I don't know of any other artist that touches reaches such depths of emotion greater than Mahler.
+Vince Major The slowness of this page is terrifying: Adagissimo, he writes, the slowest possible musical direction; and then langsam (slow), ersterbend (dying-away), zögern (hesitating); and as if all those were not enough to indicate the near stoppage of time, he adds äusserst langsam (extremely slow) in the very last bars. It is terrifying, and paralyzing, as the strands of sound disintegrate....
Even this performance isn't the slowest it's been done. When Bernstein recorded this symphony with the Concertgebouw, it truly felt like he was trying to stop the world with music. You might or mightn't like it, but it definitely beats this performance for the slow prize.
@Joseph C Owens I'm curious, do you have any other versions to suggest to listen to? Bernstein still nails it IMO, but I'm keeping an open mind and would be glad to discover another interpretation of this amazing work!
gunnsgthartman The theory is that Karajan capitalized on the Bernstein visit and preparation/recording of this work with the BPO in 1979 to make his '81 recording.
O grande Bernstein na profunda dramaticidade da 9ª Sinfonia , chamada "do Adeus", porque Mahler dizia que após um compositor realizar sua "Nona", morreria. Ele batizou a que seria sua verdadeira e belíssima Nona de "A canção da terra", segundo ele, para tentar "enganar o destino". E não concluiu a sua décima, concluída por Dereck Cooke, que na verdade seria a 11ª. Grande Gustav Mahler!!!
There is not a single recording of Bernstein conducting Mahler’s 9th symphony with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra. Where can I find it or there is no such recording?
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"And so we come to the final incredible page. And this page, I think, is the closest we have ever come, in any work of art, to experiencing the very act of dying, of giving it all up. The slowness of this page is terrifying: Adagissimo, he writes, the slowest possible musical direction; and then langsam (slow), ersterbend (dying-away), zögern (hesitating); and as if all those were not enough to indicate the near stoppage of time, he adds äusserst langsam (extremely slow) in the very last bars. It is terrifying, and paralyzing, as the strands of sound disintegrate. We hold on to them, hovering between hope and submission. And one by one, these spidery strands connecting us to life melt away, vanish from our fingers even as we hold them. We cling to them as they dematerialize; we are holding two -- then one. One, and suddenly none. For a petrifying moment there is only silence. Then again, a strand, a broken strand, two strands, one . . . none. We are 'half in love with easeful death . . . now more than ever seems it rich to die, to cease upon the midnight with no pain' . . . And in ceasing, we lose it all. But in letting go, we have gained everything." - Bernstein (on the finale of Mahler's Ninth Symphony)
i came to listen right after the lecture
My first time really and you are so right. What do you make of the 3rd movement (?) at 52 min in ?
“It’s dark because you are trying too hard.
Lightly child, lightly. Learn to do everything lightly.
Yes, feel lightly even though you’re feeling deeply.
Just lightly let things happen and lightly cope with them.
I was so preposterously serious in those days, such a humorless little prig.
Lightly, lightly - it’s the best advice ever given me.
When it comes to dying even. Nothing ponderous, or portentous, or emphatic.
No rhetoric, no tremolos,
no self conscious persona putting on its celebrated imitation of Christ or Little Nell.
And of course, no theology, no metaphysics.
Just the fact of dying and the fact of the clear light.
So throw away your baggage and go forward.
There are quicksands all about you, sucking at your feet,
trying to suck you down into fear and self-pity and despair.
That’s why you must walk so lightly.
Lightly my darling,
on tiptoes and no luggage,
not even a sponge bag,
completely unencumbered.”
― Aldous Huxley, Island
This is just one music interpretation of the act of giving everything up and the finality of death . Bruckners 9th symphony is especially brilliant at expressing this sensitive issue infact even more dramatic.Both composers were obsessed with the process of dying......
The end of an Age, yes. Innocence once lost can never be regained and yet what is it that remains? I would like to suggest that "we" some how are growing up. But then again, I'm a idealist. I've been wrong before. Sorry about that. And yes, I believe we cannot go backwards in order to find our way forward.
What a master work this is. What a supreme work of realization and revelation. What an insight upon human nature. What dreams may come? The voice of Calliope and her sister speak... even more clearly in the Great Silences. Blessings on all of us dear Phil. It's the Forth of July, my birthday, and also that of Charles Ives, the founder of the Prudential Live Insurance Company. Oh yeah, America (USA) too! Have a great day. Blessings, moi
The beautiful thing about watching Lenny was that he just left the world when he conducted Mahler. He was totally immersed - physically - in the music and he just hung it all out there for us mortals to see. His body gives listeners like me cues to listening. Even on the podium he was teaching without knowing it.
He was definitely one of the greats. He did it all. Not many others can make that statement.
A tremendous film, really. Thanks!
Mahler's 9th Symphony is the zenith of human endeavor. We have never done better. Go, Mahler!
Thank you for this marvelous ride, Gustav Mahler & Leonard Bernstein. Mateus Levi, thanks for posting GUSTAV MAHLER SYMPHONY NR 9 Bernstein.
For those of you looking for movement reference points:
2nd movement starts at 28:25
3rd movement starts at 44:46
4th movement starts at 56:28
The 4th movement absolutely takes your breath away and reaches into the deepest depths of your soul. The capitulation at the end, as those last dying breaths of music fade into nothingness...tranquil in their exit...acceptance of the inevitable...and peacefully fading into the next life.
celestian...
This piece said the same thing to me. Music does indeed have a distinct language.
Oh God,magnificent performance...Maestro Bernstein every time fascinated with this enthusiasm!Adore this symphony,adore A D A G I O!
our best friend is dying and I offer today this to his memory. It was his dearest piece of work ever written and directed by Bernstein
That section from 1:05:51 to 1:06:52 is my favorite part, especially with that volcanic eruption of those horns! 😍😍 Such an immense, raw, and emotionally charged build-up that never ceases to give me chills down my entire spine. I think Mahler knew he was nearing the end. Even if he didn't, this was still one incredible "farewell" to the world! 👏🏽👏🏽
Real Barbershop Talk: I have served honorably in the Marine Corps with my love for Classical music from High School via College and performing on Stage. Yes, lots of people love Chopin, The Beeth; but for me its Mahler. Symphony #5 3rd Movement and Symphony #9. The 4th Movement I love. I recall it was describe as.."A Human holding on a Ice Cube and its 100 Degrees outside. The Cube represents "LIFE". The Human is trying to HOLD On that that Ice as long as he/she can...until it slowly melts away. Then..it is gone. #AlwaysMahlerFan
OH WOW!!!!!
Dwayne there is a real painful reference to your analogy, more like holding a fallen comrade.
very nice
This is so beautiful. Mahler is one of my top 5 composers, and his 9th is his magnum opus in my book.
I. (Andante comodo) 0:48
II. (Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers. Etwas täppisch und sehr derb) 28:20
III. (Rondo-Burleske: Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig) 44:37
IV. (Adagio. Sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend) 56:24
Danken Sehr...
Ні, це не музика - це щось набагато більше, ніж музика; це зверхмузика; це музичний абсолют; це ядро Всесвіту і в той же час його вершина, його апогей!!! І що характерно - характерно те, що ця музика не сприймається слухом, а лише органами почуттів, і при цьому вмикається все-все-все підсвідоме.
Bernstein is so totally invested in this symphony.. For him conducting it is a spiritual endeavor, and it shows. Bravo
Mahler is the only composer that writes about the human mind and heart. The bitterness in our hearts are portrayed here and only here-the masterpiece. Thank you, Mahler. You are my role model. Your music shall run in me forever.
As perplexed, with Brahms, standing on the bridge, wondering if their music would flow into the future as does the stream of water. Assuredly, the music continues to flow into our souls.
The final movement always makes me cry...is the most dramatical and sublime farewell expressed in music.
merci beaucoup pour cette merveilleuse vidéo qui me permet de voir la direction sensible et imprégnée de Lenny sur cette symphonie de Mahler que je ne connaissais pas, le dernier mouvement, l'adagio, sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend me touche particulièrement.
Thanks a lot for this wonderful film which enables me to watch the so sensitive direction of Lenny as if he was living the symphony of Mahler, particularly the last movement, Adagio, sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend which moves me extremely.
I actually think the adagio movement at the end is perfectly slow. It really captures every feeling I didn't even know existed within myself.
I believe Mahler is musically describing the perfect death in the Adagio. Complete final relinquishment is demonstrated here in musical form. Have no fear.
I can't state enough how awesome the 9th is. The fourth movement only takes 15 pages in the full score, mainly because the instrumentation is a bit scarce compared to the other movements (it starts all on strings) and the tempo is slower. Still an amazing 15 pages to study. I just love the alteration/modulation in the cellos/double bass in the main theme that comes back multiple times during the movement, it gets to me every time. 56:56
Tout simplement divin.... merci. Michèle
Mahler, of course, writes admirably for the orchestra. We feel the pleasure to conduct this music when looking at L; Bernstein. His ninth symphony - a quite complex score - is a model of transparency. His recording is a jewel. Here, we have the chance to look at the play of the instrumentists in the orchestra.
Featuring a young Nick Offerman at the front of the Violin 2 section.
Fortunately the Vienna Philharmonic at the time had a way to ban Tammy.
Those are the violas.
But it's still a young Nick Offerman, right?
OMG you right!! lol
Magnificent Adagio...Maestro Bernstein,Orchestra,magnificent M a h l e r!
So cool to see the VPO playing in the BPO's home turf. I have Bernstein's only recording with the BPO doing this same symphony. Supposedly, Karajan waited till after Lennie had rehearsed and performed this piece before he himself recorded it. Too bad there are only about 2 camera angles.
Dans l'ombre, le chef d'orchestre est en quête de perfection
Il impulse le tempo et les fait inlassablement répéter pour atteindre l'harmonie
L 'énergie véhiculée par le son circule entre lui et les musiciens
Les porter puis se laisser porter par eux
Lorsque la fausse note arrive,
Le silence est une pause nécessaire
Une respiration pour écouter, comprendre
Pour retrouver la confiance et le plaisir de jouer ensemble
Puis dans un nouvel acte, se transcender...
Oui, le silence nous garde, nous préserve et c'est très bien ainsi!!
Très bien ressenti et exprimé ! Mais sauriez vous par hasard où était donné ce concert ? Ce n'est pas précisé. Merci pour votre réponse à un fan de Lenny !
haha i just listened to ALL of that! amazing work!
That cymbal player waited ages for his moment and then made the most of it! very important part. Tremendous patience and observance-staying alert, waiting for your big moment.
Painfully beautiful. For anyone who has forgotten, this is called "music".
I love how most appreciative comments any music fan makes also includes some sort of condensation against the "other". A constant violent construction of ones identity based on ones musical taste and through exclusion.
Wow. That's true. I think I won't do that anymore. Thanks.
Phillip George
Phillip George Bravo to both of your comments. One comment, one reply that is.
The reply shows your generosity and intellectual honesty!
Wait, so no one else accidentally arrived here when looking for Kendrick Lamar? :-)
This is a very great work, here are some parts that I like.
•The Straussian chaos in parts of the first movement
•The two inner movements are fun. The Rondo Burleske has nice dissonance at parts.
•The last movement is the most beautiful music can get.
I was listening to this while working. Occasionally the music would fully register in my mind, but not often. It reached the final movement, and as the orchestra slowly built, faded, and died, it barely registered in my mind. It was there, it was moving, but I wasn't there. It was only in the cacophony of silence that followed that I realized that it was over, and that I had missed the very thing that I had originally come for. I had squandered beauty on business. The thing that I had wanted passed me by because I was careless, and only in its absence do I want it.
For all the platitudes, it still feels more real than anything has in a long time.
I used to think the 3rd’s finale was better than the 9th’s but that was because I was very busy with school and listened to the 3rd’s finale when I had time. After re-listening to this finale when I had time, I became near speechless. It’s incredibly beautiful, almost like it was written with the pen of God. Now I think the 9th is better, and like you I was too busy doing stuff in order to fully take in the music. Satie was right about “furniture music”.
attended Bernstein and the VPO for this at the Hollywood Bowl in the early 90s. It was beautiful, wondrous. I was about 20 at the time. A 'best' memory of my life...
Keith Johnson WHAT THE HECK? B.S BERNSTEIN DIED IN 1990????
ótimo compositor!
Love Mahler!!
En telkens opnieuw zijn er tranen die opwellen uit een liefdevol hart 💙. Wonderbaarlijk !
Awesome, just wonderful!
古典與浪漫時期音樂經典
導言：
藝術不僅僅是一件作品而已，藝術作品本身所呈現出來的應該是藝術家內在的精神層面的表現，我們經由欣賞藝術作品可以逐漸地提昇我們的感知能力，使人得以觸動內在甚而發掘自我，不論文學、美學、音樂等皆然。在欣賞一個藝術作品的同時，對於作者本身的了解是必要的，這可以幫助我們理解作者在創作藝術作品時的時代背景以及創作動機。
1.浪漫主義時期音樂家Gustav Mahler：
生在十九世紀後半期，活到第一次大戰時期之前 （1860~ 1911），他是將浪漫主義音樂帶至下一個現代主義的作曲家，同時也是管弦樂指揮最重要的開創的人物，也是最後的交響樂大師。
Mahler是捷克出生的猶太人，他說：「我是三度無家可歸，一個奧地利的波西米亞人，德國人中的奧地利人，世界中的猶太人」。Mahler 的作品是個人內心世界的反射，在他的音樂之中也展現了兩極的衝突與矛盾的現象，使他的作品反而更耐人尋味。
Mahler的作曲生涯其實並不怎麼順遂，而他自己本身的生命經歷可以被視為傳奇性的人物，1971年Luchino Visconti把Mahler的經歷拍成電影Death in Venice，電影中的配樂就是馬勒的第五號交響曲中的第四樂章，即稍慢板樂章（Adagietto）。在當時聽過Mahler作品的人並不多，當然這跟兩次大戰及反日耳曼情結脫離不了關係，乃致於使得他的作品在他死後一直不被重視，因而他的作品被長時間的埋沒，一直到70年代後期Leonard Bernstein（1940-1990）推出Mahler的作品後，Mahler的作品才漸漸地被許多人接受。
自視為德奧音樂傳統的承繼人，直接承繼十九世紀末期Wagner之後的浪漫主義。而與Wagner不同之處在於Wagner致力於人聲與音樂的音樂歌劇，而Mahler 的創作卻是古典傳統音樂的交響樂。
Mahler 的作品有9首交響曲（第十首未完成，後來被人續完成）、5組獨唱與樂隊的聯篇歌曲、在世紀交替時已經完成了4首交響曲。
2.什麼是古典
在藝術的發展史中，古典主義與浪漫主義時期大約是在1750~1900
古典主義強調：秩序、和諧、理性、形式
在藝術表達上是客觀而非主觀的嚐試
講求完美、理想主義、基要、有耐久與永恆性
在音樂的古典主義Classicism：短小對稱的樂句與旋律，起應之間完美，清楚的輪廓與樂句
十分悅耳：沒有不協調的音層
重複的主題，呈示部、發展部與再現部比例均衡、對稱及反覆特質。
3.什麼是浪漫
在音樂的浪漫主義Romanticism：在於強烈的感情、情感、感覺。更常是令人不安晦暗的激情，非理性的，是主觀的或個人的而非客觀的。常對現存的社會秩序表達不滿，當然浪漫在此非表達愛情之情意綿綿，根據Charles Baudelaire說：Romanticism既不是你選擇什麼主題更不是關於什麼事理，而是感受的方式 （the way of feeling），你感覺到什麼才是浪漫主義。音樂家及劇作家文學家E.T.A.Haffmann說：音樂是所有藝術中最浪漫的藝術。因為音樂並沒有形體，你必須去聽到、感覺它才能感覺到的。
4.古典與浪漫主義風格兼具
Mahler的交響曲是典型的後浪漫主義風格：冗長、形式複雜、具浪漫張力的表現、但有明確的型式、巨大的樂章結構，龐大的樂團編制，精巧的配器，以及對生命的總總探究追求融入於音樂中。馬勒認為「一首交響曲能建構一個世界」Mahler看似浪漫誇大的管絃效果，其實有古典精緻的作曲結構。
十九世紀後30年，對歐洲來說社會局勢穩定和平，不論古典主義或是浪漫主義的音樂大致上並沒有脫離出調性規範，但到了二十詩世紀開始，社會局勢緊張動蕩不安，終於導致了第一次世界大戰。這些年中不僅結束了古典、浪漫主義時期，也結束了十八世紀和十九世紀調性的規範，進而逐漸進入另一個無調性規範的音樂型式。
5.什麼是經典
藝術創作之所以能成為經典，除了必須要有精湛的技術外，最重要的是作品能經得起時間的考驗並能夠打動人心。以Mahler的作品來說，是現今音樂廳中最常被演奏的交響樂曲目，Mahler的作品不但成為表演曲目中的經典作品也是標準曲目，更是交響樂樂團挑戰技巧與表現力的試金石，說Mahler的作品為經典一點也不為過。
Mahler的第九號交響曲
整首曲子有四個樂章，首尾兩樂章均使用緩慢的樂曲，D大調的第一樂章開始，然後以降D大調的終樂章結束。擺脫了傳統的序列，很明顯的用擴大和絃方式製造新的和聲感，以及擴張調性等等，即華麗又細膩，曲中管絃編制與配器龐大、音響層次分明，這些都呈現比以往更精進的技巧。
第二樂章甚至採用了三種不同的速度、四種風格來構成整個樂章的架構，卻依然平衡感十足。
結語：
生與死是每個人必須去面對與超越的人生議題，而Mahler將死亡與救贖，浪漫情感受拒，以及在希望與絕望中掙扎等情感流露在他的作品中。直到他寫第九號交響曲時，Mahler對於死亡的感受愈來愈強烈，而Mahler對於生命終極的探究也達到愈來愈瘋狂的地步。可以說，生與死是Mahler交響曲最深也是最終的意涵了。
Peggy Sun 能别粘贴复制吗……
why is this making tears come out of my eyes????
All hail the contrabassoon.
The fourth movement sends me to Heaven. It is truly sublime.
This symphony makes me cry without control....
Magnificent! I wept.
The loss of Innocence. Death without dying. Life without hope. Never again will I come into this world. It's history is written in blood, blood that cannot be washed away by either time or distance. I never wanted this. Since today (July 4th) is my birthday, I think I'll listen to a little.... Bless all of you and Lenny where ever you are who brought this might work together. Excellence remains... and cannot be denied. Even unto the ends of time. Chopin's Nocturnes, Bach's Organ Works, Satie's Gymnopdies, and yes, this work by Gustav shall most likely outlast us all. You can already hear it in the Silence. Do I hear laughter in this sunrise? Our sunrise. Is it our laughter or does this laughter rise from another generation yet to come? Am I (we) a victim or a merely a survivor? Or something else entirely. Blessings upon us all... this day and from this day forward. Moi
Mahler expresses the lonely soul (everyone)
As does Brahms and Tchaikovsky as a music professor has demonstrated to me. Cannot find Brahms 2nd with Bernstein and Vienna posted anymore, but much discussion about a lonely soul. This and his (Mahler's) 1st are two of the most magnificent "soulful" pieces of music I can find, in my opinion. if a composer can touch our soul, then he/she has had success. Even if it is more than 100 years later! If only Mahler knew what we are sharing.
I understand that one of Mahler's concerns was about music (his and other's) which might continue to live.
MARAVILLOSA SINFONIA
Fantastic 4th movement.
like in the finel of the 3rd he quotes from the late quartets - listen to the opening of the finale here, very similar to opening of Grosse Fugue
Audiences were so much better back then. Quiet, attentive, well-dressed, serious and appreciative!
52:02 I'm hearing some Star Wars riffs. Lol. This music is magnificent.
The 4th movement is astonishing
For Lenny with Love - conducting he already is out of this physical world .... Thank youy
I'd like the adagio played at my funeral but its far too long.
top draw
You'll have some place to rush to?
You could have them play it at double tempo if you are in a hurry.
Youll come back to life eventually...
brian merrill, I have instructed my family to play the adagio from Mahler's 5th at my memorial.
I had listened to Bernstein's lecture about this piece, and I can't see why he thinks that it has to do with 3 kinds of death. 1st one being what Mahler saw about his own death. I find it a very beautiful piece despite the fact of how long it is. Symphony number 3 is by far the longest with 6.. count them.. 6 movements. The 5th movement being the shortest. Thanks a lot for posting this guys.
Bernstein was very wrong on that, despite how great he was as a conductor. This Symphony is not a Mahler Requiem
Thanks for agreeing with me on that. I think it's a great piece of music. What do you think of it?
Celebration of life rather than contemplation of death? We know that tragedies struck him as they do with all of us, but his expressional output was music. I find many meanings of our moments of life in this piece. The third movement (to me) as allegro assai is more celebratory than funereal.
I wish I could find the quote of a music professor sharing that Mahler and Brahms were standing on a bridge and it was Brahms who woefully asked if their music would endure time, to which Mahler said something to the effect of 'it is like the water, it will flow forever".
Not all of life's events end in a major chord crescendo.
Mahler, à son zénith, Bernstein, au sien ! Mais sauriez vous par hasard où était donné ce concert ? Ce n'est pas indiqué. Merci pour votre réponse à un fan de Lenny !
For my money, Mahler wrote the best Adagios in classical repertoire.
Flows just like life and death!
awesome!!
Amazing !!
a lot of tension and fear. And the fourth movement is just mind blowing.
Mahler’s music has always spoken clearly to my duality-Mexican American. I’ve always been drawn to it since I was a teenager.
214227N How fascinating. Is there something Mexican in the music?
Esta interpretación hoy, está pero que muy superada y es de agradecer que así sea, señal evidente de que la música avanza.
no tienes dos... para dar la cara y te escondes bajo el anonimato. COBARDE!. Eres un dictador, por qué me tiene que gustar a mi lo que te guste a tì.
La interpretación musical seguirá siendo la misma. Lo que si ha avanzado de manera significativa es la forma cómo se captura el audio y el vídeo. Antes se utilizaban medios analógicos (vinilo y cintas magnéticas). Hoy la tecnología digital ha revolucionado la calidad en la grabación de este tipo de eventos. Un saludo cordial y respetuoso.
Sr. estamos hablando idiomas totalmente diferente, yo no me refiero a los medios técnicos empleados para una determinada grabación que evidentemente esos han cambiado yo, a lo que me refiero es al contenido interpretativo y mire este aspecto, no es el mismo nunca, jamás, ni con el mismo director y orquesta un día y al siguiente. Me comprende ahora?
Both are masterpieces from their respective times.
Great Performance....
2nd movement starts at 28:25
this is great stuff...
Conducting looks fun.
looks like Magneto
Conducting is fun..... when the baton becomes one of the instruments of the orchestra. Knowing that every musician is equally important contributing to the expression of the piece.
But you'd better know what you are doing. ..or you end up like Kenneth Williams in Carry on Teacher
Centre Court *Charles Hawtrey
Lindíssima!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So this is where all the people who can make a RUclips post without being offensive/racist/abusive/etc. come? Must come here more often.
Mahler's 9th - drawn here by it's reference in St Elmo's Fire, and very glad I was. Great stuff :)
+Dan Faulkner
its not it's
+Lukas Medlam Wow
The part at 3:50 is just absolutely breathtaking
+Echoherb I totally agree. The whole section after that just floats. And damn, Lenny, how long you gonna hold that?
今のVPOには優れた指揮者不足もあるが女性奏者が増えてこのようなコクのあるロマンチックな演奏は不可能でしょう。
大切な音楽遺産！
conmovedor!!
I. Andante comodo...................................................................................00:37
II. Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers. Etwas täppisch und sehr derb....28:19
III. Rondo-Burleske: Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig...........................................44:38
IV. Adagio: Sehr langsam und noch zuruckhaltend......................................56:21
+pokejing
I. Andante comodo................................................................................... 00:37
II. Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers. Etwas täppisch und sehr derb.... 28:19
III. Rondo-Burleske: Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig........................................... 44:38
IV. Adagio: Sehr langsam und noch zuruckhaltend...................................... 56:21
thank you!
If I died today, I would die happy. Thank you Mahler and Bernstein. Thank you.
Gustav never got to hear a performance of this remarkable work.
sinfonía de una fuerza arrolladora
I can't unhear "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas"
Bennett Markel
Mahler and Bernstein go together like……..you name it.
I believe if you don't love The Adagio - there is a flaw in your humanity.
Your presumption is flawed.
This music is not to everybodys taste It is ridiculous and insulting to presume that there is a flaw in your humanity if you do not love this.
Mahler is one of my favorite composers, but he's an acquired taste for many. There's no need to judge someone who doesn't like this music. I personally prefer the five movement 10th Symphony whose Finale moves me far more than the Finale of the Ninth Symphony.
Very interesting seating position of string section. If I see this correctly, from left to right, Bernstein has 1st violins, 2nd violins, violoncellos and violas on the right most, with basses behind the violas. Anyone here has any background info on how this seating position came across? For example, Gergiev does 1st violins, violas, cellos and 2nd violins. There is no doubt who is the conductor that came the closest to what Mahler is, but just wondering if that is also something Mahler himself intended. Any info would be gladly appreciated!
これは珍品。ゲルハルト・ヘッツエルがコンマスをしているから１９９２年以前のウイーンフィル楽旅の録画ですね。
De droom van Anton Wachter in 'De beker van de min'
I too thank you, Mateus, for posting this wonderful performance - such a treat for those of us who never saw Bernstein conduct. I pity Ron Walker below, who found himself in the desert of incomprehension. And Ron, for future reference, you got the quote wrong, the author wrong - and why show off your failure to feel something?
What to do to play the II mov. "sehr derb"? is this performance sehr derb or sehr elegant?
"It is terrifying, and paralyzing, as the strands of sound disintegrate ... in ceasing, we lose it all. But in letting go, we have gained everything." -- Leonard Bernstein, re: Mahler's 9th
great mahler.Very beatiful...
Mateus - can you advise when this was recorded , the orchestra + date. the music is astonishing ! i also love Barshai's 9th on BIS. that digs deep also.
This is the Weiner Philharmoniker Orchestra..........
So pretty
The last movement is strikingly similar to the last movement of the Pathétique Symphony by Tchaikovsky.
Henry-Louis de La Grange's final volume of his Mahler biography pretty much dispels the myth of the dying Mahler writing his swansong about his impending death. Bernstein's philosophical and historical interpretation of the meaning of the music, what he said about it, is dated now in many ways, though his musical sense of the score and how he conducted it is unquestionably great and indelible. I recommend this book; it will reshape the way you hear, and think about, the Ninth.
*And it recontextualizes all his major work from that period, including _Das Lied von der Erde_ and the unfinished Tenth.
You are absolutely right: Mahler was healthy physically and mentally when he composed the Ninth as well as the astonishing draft of his nearly 2000 measure Tenth, the entire 5 movements composed in a burst of creative vigor in July and August of 1910. And the glorious Finale of the Tenth is quite different from the bitter sweet ending of Das Lied von der Erde, and the heartbreaking Finale of the Ninth.
Comparing the ending of the 9th Symphony with the ending of the 2d shows the tension within Mahler, especially about death and life.
Thanks to Douglas Kennedy for letting me know that symphony.
IV) 56:24
Stunning performance ! Maybe a tad too slow at the end. I don't know of any other artist that touches reaches such depths of emotion greater than Mahler.
+Vince Major The slowness of this page is terrifying: Adagissimo, he writes, the slowest possible musical direction; and then langsam (slow), ersterbend (dying-away), zögern (hesitating); and as if all those were not enough to indicate the near stoppage of time, he adds äusserst langsam (extremely slow) in the very last bars. It is terrifying, and paralyzing, as the strands of sound disintegrate....
+Brooklin Funkproject Wrecked
+Vince Major Good sentence.
+Brooklin Funkproject You can thank Bernstein for that quote :)
Even this performance isn't the slowest it's been done. When Bernstein recorded this symphony with the Concertgebouw, it truly felt like he was trying to stop the world with music. You might or mightn't like it, but it definitely beats this performance for the slow prize.
バーンスタインのマーラー第9はやはり最高だ！ロイヤルコンセルトヘボウとの演奏もすばらしいがやはりウィーンフィルは本場の味わいが格別だ、！
Used to Von Karajan's version. Seems a bit slow to me but everyone has their preference.
@Joseph C Owens I'm curious, do you have any other versions to suggest to listen to? Bernstein still nails it IMO, but I'm keeping an open mind and would be glad to discover another interpretation of this amazing work!
The 1981 recording by the Berlin Phil. with von Karajan conducting is also quite good.
Already got that one, and it became my favourite! Not always into Karajan, but the 9th is just fantastic with him.
gunnsgthartman The theory is that Karajan capitalized on the Bernstein visit and preparation/recording of this work with the BPO in 1979 to make his '81 recording.
I can suggest 2 other masterly inerpretations; that of Jascha Horenstein (Vox fecords) and that of Bruno Walter. Good luck in finding them today!
Feels like the music is controlling my emotions
O grande Bernstein na profunda dramaticidade da 9ª Sinfonia , chamada "do Adeus", porque Mahler dizia que após um compositor realizar sua "Nona", morreria. Ele batizou a que seria sua verdadeira e belíssima Nona de "A canção da terra", segundo ele, para tentar "enganar o destino". E não concluiu a sua décima, concluída por Dereck Cooke, que na verdade seria a 11ª. Grande Gustav Mahler!!!
There is not a single recording of Bernstein conducting Mahler’s 9th symphony with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra. Where can I find it or there is no such recording?
III) 44:37
0:48
Imagine Celibidache conducting this.
two hours of music at last