I bet I know what's going on. Did you hear the clank right before the siren started? That was both of the dampers closing. And they stayed closed throughout the test. Causing there to be little air incoming into the intake tubes. And with less air resistance, the choppers spin faster. Which causes the pitch to be raised. And with less air, the siren isn't as loud as it is supposed to be. The solenoid's relays in the controls must have shorted out somehow. Best get that checked out.
Bruh just fix it. Many people cost much money just to replace things/sirens. But how if the siren can fixed? If the siren cannot fixed, just keep the siren on there or replace the broken parts. Easy, right? Save money.
It seems as if it was wired in the same style as a Klaxon CS8 but instead of the solenoids opening the dampers such as on the CS8 (as they are spring-loaded to close) they are activated to close the dampers
I know lots of people are arguing about what exactly is the matter with the siren. The solenoids seem to be wired to the motor contacter, meaning the dampers shut when power is applied to the motor, and open when power is cut. TrainsAndSirens1 The motor, even with brush angle tampered with, would not run this fast with the dampers open. The *clunk* sound before it starts (in case you don't know) is the dampers shutting, and they don't open up until the siren winds down. If the rotors don't get air, they have no load. Since the load on the motor is less, it runs faster. In the case of this siren (where nearly all the load is removed) the motor spins much faster than intended, which will inevitably lead to an early death of the motor when the brushes turn to dust or the bearings can no longer take the extra speed. Just in case you're wondering, this siren does test in Attack, albeit on an unusual schedule. They only test Attack during a certain chunk of the year, that chunk is constantly changing.
Research. Lots of research. For 3 years, I learned more and more about sirens. Despite that, there's still a lot I don't know. I'm not so much into sirens now as I used to be, so I haven't bothered to do more research on what I have yet to learn.
i think it's really cool how u pretty much just hear the 4/5 undertones from the rotor vanes. it is going so freaking fast, it sounds like a low speed 8/10, or a 4/5 thunderbolt on a low chopper level
@@deq_syd Nope. Still 10/12 port. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
Sounds like the dampers engaged when it went off in alert. at the end you can hear them open. Interesting how they open slowly from the vacuum, hi side first then lo side.
Surprised the T-128 can be heard in the background almost clearly the entire duration of the video, this thing must've been heck of quiet with both the solenoids shut. Nice recording!
I think that’s just the solenoids stopping there long and obnoxious cycle that creates that waste of a sound. Why am I saying this because who ever designed those solenoid cycles needs to be fired right away! The normal 3t22 sounds better
The dampers reopened when it powered off so it sucked a whole bunch of air in while it was still running too fast which is why it screamed at beginning of wind down
The dampers are engaged which allows less are in the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be low in volume Edit: literally started laughing how at the end of the test, the pitch of the siren changed so suddenly I after the dampers reopened
@@northdakotasirens1520 Yes, Thats the same exact thing. The solenoids are shut. You could easily hear the clank at the start. Thats the solenoids shutting, causing less air to come inside the chopper.
WOW. What happens if the solenoid boxes were not stuck ? XO That will make it high pitched as CRAP. Someone must have messed up the brushes in the motor. This siren is a single phase 3T22 (3T22B). Also, can this siren do attack?
Motor is off balance, causing the undertone. There are 3 pitches, 2 chopper 1 undertone. When the dampers close(both of them), there is less air resistance. So it is high pitched. This is a repulsion induction, maybe stuck on repulsion. That is why it is high pitched.
The dampers engaged when the siren was activated which allows less air into the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be less loud
Sounds like its a friggen decot , probably the reason why its so high pitched is that it could be both solenoids where closed , its like a vacuum if you put your hand over the hose nozzle the higher rpm the motor goes because its starving for air .
Yes. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
Rockstar 1950 But... Its not being overpowered...Are you ignoring all the other previous comments? You seem to have been commenting quite a lot. Surely you came across the comment that explains what is wrong with the siren!
GOD DAMN. something got screwed up in there! know underpowered well this might me overpowered! or brushes got screwed. imagine it with a stuck solenoid box! damn
Dampers both shut on wind-up, they don't open until wind-down. The motor is factory stock. The lack of rotor load (neither rotor getting air to chop) makes it go faster than it should.
Darren Hall neither the dampers are wired to the contactor causing the dampers to shut when the siren turns on and open when it turns off and causing less air to escape therefore causing the choppers to spin faster
sick is too low pitched or for thunderbolts the collector rings are messed up witch has the same result so this siren is on RED BULL and for Broken Solar Panel COLECTER RINGS CLORECTOR RINGS CLORECTE RINGS CLORETOR RINGS
OK. It seems i keep finding more things to say about it, so, as opposed to filling up the comment section up, I'll put them all here: I bet this think is PAINFUL when the dampers open and it winds down. SE3T632 SiraTone EOWS*612 3T22 it sounds like it's running on 70 Hz. (I know it isn't.)
R: what's wrong son r: I feel overheated dad R: my poor overheated angel (Doctor knocks on the door) R: let me go get the door and might be the doctor Doctor: hello can I come in please R: yes you may come in and you may find my son he's on the couch but I'm taking him to his room
No. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
Intakes are shut stopping air from running through, therefore lowering the amount of air resistance, making the chopper spin faster.
**clickbait bing**
@@Band__geek who cares
it spins so fast it starts making it's own sub tones
@@Band__geek not cool.
@@Band__geek No ones laughing
I bet I know what's going on. Did you hear the clank right before the siren started? That was both of the dampers closing. And they stayed closed throughout the test. Causing there to be little air incoming into the intake tubes. And with less air resistance, the choppers spin faster. Which causes the pitch to be raised. And with less air, the siren isn't as loud as it is supposed to be. The solenoid's relays in the controls must have shorted out somehow. Best get that checked out.
HI BROKEN SOLAR PANEL!!!!!
No shit
Hey whelen, how are your collector rings doing?
@@Asmith-1111 no
@@Asmith-1111 it's a stupid nonsense joke that nobody likes
Someone needs to get in there and disconnect the damn solenoids from the motor starter! That's a perfectly functional 3T22. It's just wired wrong.
Bruh just fix it. Many people cost much money just to replace things/sirens. But how if the siren can fixed? If the siren cannot fixed, just keep the siren on there or replace the broken parts. Easy, right? Save money.
It seems as if it was wired in the same style as a Klaxon CS8 but instead of the solenoids opening the dampers such as on the CS8 (as they are spring-loaded to close) they are activated to close the dampers
I know lots of people are arguing about what exactly is the matter with the siren. The solenoids seem to be wired to the motor contacter, meaning the dampers shut when power is applied to the motor, and open when power is cut.
TrainsAndSirens1 The motor, even with brush angle tampered with, would not run this fast with the dampers open. The *clunk* sound before it starts (in case you don't know) is the dampers shutting, and they don't open up until the siren winds down. If the rotors don't get air, they have no load. Since the load on the motor is less, it runs faster. In the case of this siren (where nearly all the load is removed) the motor spins much faster than intended, which will inevitably lead to an early death of the motor when the brushes turn to dust or the bearings can no longer take the extra speed.
Just in case you're wondering, this siren does test in Attack, albeit on an unusual schedule. They only test Attack during a certain chunk of the year, that chunk is constantly changing.
Research. Lots of research. For 3 years, I learned more and more about
sirens. Despite that, there's still a lot I don't know. I'm not so much
into sirens now as I used to be, so I haven't bothered to do more
research on what I have yet to learn.
you can tell they open when this thing winds down because it goes real high pitched on the wind down
Rothanak Meak what’s the point of that?
@Rothanak Meak You're probably just jealous of his knowledge
@Rothanak Meak Why lmao
It’s like a Shepard’s tone. It never stops rising
Mother of God...
i think it's really cool how u pretty much just hear the 4/5 undertones from the rotor vanes. it is going so freaking fast, it sounds like a low speed 8/10, or a 4/5 thunderbolt on a low chopper level
I was surprised it didn't fly off the pole!
lol i
***** sorry no can do. I only upload honest and original content
Right?
Blast off
Same
Top Horns (1020Hz)
Bottom Horns (950Hz)
16/20 port?
@@deq_syd I think
@@deq_syd or 50/52 port XD
@@deq_syd Nope. Still 10/12 port. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
Imagine if there was a siren that was 16/20 port
who ever wired the solenoid like that should be fired
HA HA
ikr
Imagine this thing on a fire call.
@@youngmeteorologist8894 It probably will function the way it should if they have the AF Timer and RCM 3 running and have it set up to do High-Low.
Lol
I was just laughing at the sound this siren made at the start and at the end. Impressive to see a 3T22 chopper spin this fast. Jesus
Sounds like the dampers engaged when it went off in alert. at the end you can hear them open. Interesting how they open slowly from the vacuum, hi side first then lo side.
Surprised that thing doesn't just fly apart going that fast, or BBQ the motor.
Andy Thompson same
IT’S STILL ACTIVE AND KICKING!
sounds more like an automobile horn
Surprised the T-128 can be heard in the background almost clearly the entire duration of the video, this thing must've been heck of quiet with both the solenoids shut. Nice recording!
sounds a little like the old thunderbolts of limerick that T-128.
3:05 I think it's voice cracked
meistern panzer thats the hi-lo i think
meistern panzer No, Wind Down
I think that’s just the solenoids stopping there long and obnoxious cycle that creates that waste of a sound. Why am I saying this because who ever designed those solenoid cycles needs to be fired right away! The normal 3t22 sounds better
How balanced are the choppers in that thing holy cow
Dampers are closed which made i high pitched but very quiet because you can hear other sirens pretty clearly.
Part of the reason why it is so high-pitched is because the solenoids shut as soon as it starts
I think everyone knows that.
Jared Thompson yeah, didn’t read other comments first. Oops
The dampers reopened when it powered off so it sucked a whole bunch of air in while it was still running too fast which is why it screamed at beginning of wind down
The dampers are engaged which allows less are in the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be low in volume
Edit: literally started laughing how at the end of the test, the pitch of the siren changed so suddenly I after the dampers reopened
There was a literal squeak right as it shut down lol
Sounds like the THX opening in movies. Yeah, something's stuck inside it.
Air is trapped inside, that's why it is high pitchedm
@@mineshaftxx2221 nope
The solenoids are shut
@@northdakotasirens1520 Yes, Thats the same exact thing. The solenoids are shut. You could easily hear the clank at the start. Thats the solenoids shutting, causing less air to come inside the chopper.
@@JointedStudios not even close to the same LMAO
When it tried to activate i heard a whelen siren in the background and another siren when you listen closely
That’s a asc t-128
Could that damage the dampers by it going high pitched like that though the test and is that a T-128 heard coming around in spots in the background
Damage the motor maybe
WOW. What happens if the solenoid boxes were not stuck ? XO That will make it high pitched as CRAP. Someone must have messed up the brushes in the motor. This siren is a single phase 3T22 (3T22B). Also, can this siren do attack?
No, it would be lower pitched, because air would be getting to the siren and slowing the motor down.
NO, someone messed with the brushes.
Thatbe something I'd like to see , this 3t22 in attack
TrainsAndSirens1 Are you stupid?
Check my vid.
That was it!!!! This was the one that had a creepy wind down in attack
You may hear the 2 T-128s in the distance as well
sounds like the dampers are shut and the chopper is spinning way faster the usual.
THQ
THE POWER OF 3T22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
During my gap year, I want to see if I can get some siren footage.
3:05
Thunderbolt scooter that is a an American signal t128
Mom is EOWS 612 Dad is 3t22A. This 3t22b is their baby. Solenoids close when siren is on, open when off.
Motor is off balance, causing the undertone. There are 3 pitches, 2 chopper 1 undertone. When the dampers close(both of them), there is less air resistance. So it is high pitched. This is a repulsion induction, maybe stuck on repulsion. That is why it is high pitched.
Eows 1212: You dare challenge my stats?
I didn't think a 3t22 could produce a higher sound than it already does...
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
The dampers engaged when the siren was activated which allows less air into the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be less loud
That sounds like a Airplane Jet engine sounding very close to the passengers.
reason why is cuz its a b series and one of the intakes is blocked giving it more rotor speed.
+Say Wut? rants (TheGravyNavy) yea. i finally realized that the dampers close upon activation
It's an A series trust me - it is being run off of a converter I think
It's an A series trust me - it is being run off of a converter I think
its actually a b series and i found out the dampers close upon activation
- ̗̀StrikerTheFoxy ̖́-
Ok but still the Phase of the siren does not matter
it's only the fact that someone wired the solenoids to the Motor terminals
Sounds like it's about to blow up
When you pause the video and the sirens are still going...
0:09 the clank is the dampers closing because the idiots wired the solenoids in the motor
Sounds like its a friggen decot , probably the reason why its so high pitched is that it could be both solenoids where closed , its like a vacuum if you put your hand over the hose nozzle the higher rpm the motor goes because its starving for air .
Which causes its pitch to be higher
The bottom solenoid is stuck, maybe it is because of the air intake made the solenoid close
3:05 the dampers open back up slowly
Dampers closed?
Yep
Yes. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
Sounds normal on the wind down since the dampers open up after being shut the whole tone.
O_O
it sound like a T-Bolt Chopper without the blower
both it is strange
I hope this siren never get replaced
replaced by 3T22 without stuck dampers XD
You can hear solenoids click at the beginning, but they dont reset, thats probably the problem.
Well they're saving energy
Rockstar 1950 But... Its not being overpowered...Are you ignoring all the other previous comments? You seem to have been commenting quite a lot. Surely you came across the comment that explains what is wrong with the siren!
Foxy Pirate Fox No it isn't! The dampers shut on activation which makes the SINGLE PHASE motor spin faster and create this noise!
Sorry... But are you talking to yourself?
@@exofriend4895 Apparently so.
it's that one high-pitched 3T 22
Damn that shut off sound ☺
It was kinda funny at the end to hear the dampers open and reaaallly scream for a second at full tilt
+MegaMobass lol
Is it supercharged
No.
What was that click at the beginning? Sounded like the dampners opening like on a Klaxon CS-8 siren before doing all clear
That click was the dampers shutting causing it to go super high pitched
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
@@CentralOHSirens thanks, but I already know that because this comment is from a year ago
the dampers close when activated
+- ̗̀BlackSharkRemixer ̖́- yup
Yeah, terrible
GOD DAMN. something got screwed up in there! know underpowered well this might me overpowered! or brushes got screwed. imagine it with a stuck solenoid box! damn
Dampers both shut on wind-up, they don't open until wind-down. The motor is factory stock. The lack of rotor load (neither rotor getting air to chop) makes it go faster than it should.
***** oh.
it screams on the wind down because of how overloaded the motor was...
The dampers reopened when it powered off so it sucked a whole bunch of air in while it was still running too fast.
it sounds so weird when it starts up
did they replace the motor on this siren? Or its getting high voltage...
oh
Darren Hall neither the dampers are wired to the contactor causing the dampers to shut when the siren turns on and open when it turns off and causing less air to escape therefore causing the choppers to spin faster
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
This has an issue with the RC6A and FC cabinet
When they wired it they wired all the inputs into one relay on the FC lmao
Just because the Thunderbolt and Hurricane Sirens were supercharged.
*DOESNT MEAN THAT EVERY SIREN SHOULD BE SUPERCHARGED!*
_This is a joke_
It sounds like a sick 3T22
sick is too low pitched or for thunderbolts the collector rings are messed up witch has the same result so this siren is on RED BULL and for Broken Solar Panel COLECTER RINGS CLORECTOR RINGS CLORECTE RINGS CLORETOR RINGS
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
@@J19_vlogger74 Shut up.
@@J19_vlogger74 Please don't say that in front of every siren enthusiast they will get annoyed by that collector rings joke
OK. It seems i keep finding more things to say about it, so, as opposed to filling up the comment section up, I'll put them all here:
I bet this think is PAINFUL when the dampers open and it winds down.
SE3T632
SiraTone EOWS*612 3T22
it sounds like it's running on 70 Hz. (I know it isn't.)
The reason it is high pitch right as the siren activates the dampers on it closed due to two-tone
Is that running on a higher voltage
Kinda sounds like a Japanese musical siren winding up
Ok! That’s scary!
oh.. my.. even.. that is alot of force. even i don't know why thats supposed to happen!
It sounds like its in G major....
That sounds cool!
Yet creepy
@@BRISTOLFORCE2009 Kinda.
this sirens motor was spinning at around 9140 RPM
How are you so sure? Huh?
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
If a 2001 was dual tone it would sound like this
Lol.... But it would sound like a 10/12 port sirens.
All hail Clyde the Thunder God siren🤴
R: what's wrong son
r: I feel overheated dad
R: my poor overheated angel
(Doctor knocks on the door)
R: let me go get the door and might be the doctor
Doctor: hello can I come in please
R: yes you may come in and you may find my son he's on the couch but I'm taking him to his room
How the heck did that not just explode
Is It single phase?
is it still here ?
What a weird siren, the sound was playing a trick on me
oh my thats a bit of mega spaghet going on there, its so high pitched due to one of the dampers being stuck
sounds like its reaching the octave to E flat
why did the selioid open?
IT DIDN’T
@@BRISTOLFORCE2009 heard a click at the beginning
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
the low tone solenoid is broken, that is why it is high pitched
That is not how it works,
Oh wait, you might be right, the low tone solenoid closed as soon as the motor fired up.
No. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
I cannot imagine how loud it is when it first shuts down.
Why is it so high pitched?
Almost all the sirens in Clyde 3t22s are really high pitched
Charger vlogs Only this one.
You Mean EXTREAMLY HI PITCHED
The full reason why its high pitched is its running on 10009 volts
I got 3T22 at home
+Alexander Eckert
Annoy* Your* Neighbor*
😮WHAT!!!!!! I'm so jealous.
No proof at all
😯 Wait Really?
Upper damper ( High note ) is lodged closed upon peak run .
Both of the dampers are closed.
No , only the upper one is closed . But this unit also has other issues as well .
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
A klaxon cs8 on stareroids
This is the electro mechanical version of Modulator.
I love this
Ok, that is VERY high!
Is this the only 3t22 that sounds like this
In the US that is
Mr.Baofeng yup!
I think there’s another one.
How loud was it
idk
An average 2t22 is at least 114 decibels.
It has been drinking helium
I heard another siren in the background. What was it? 🤔
T-128
asc t128
Could you call this an overpowered 3t22?
Yes, I think
@@exofriend4895 You don't capitalize a word after a comma
@@budgie508 You always capitalize “I” if it’s not being used in a word
“I went to the store and found an overpriced item”
@@lonely.toaster This is not a spelling bee.
*4655 RPM’s*
What type of motor did this siren use?
Normal, but the intake air blocked. it makes the siren high pitch.
0:09 it starts
the dampers are not working properly
Sounds like they’re running the motor on 80Hz.