@@bliss6495 Never heard of solid phase Hydrogen but liquid Hydrogen does exist at -253C or -423F. Imagine how difficult it is to store/transport a liquid like that. That's why it's stored as pressurized gas instead of liquid on the car.
In my opinion, both electric cars using batteries and hydrogen cars require electricity to produce them. So the green status will really depend on where the electricity comes from? if electricity is generated from solar panels or from hydroelectric power plants then it can be said to be green. Apart from the sources mentioned above, I doubt its green status.
It’s basically fuel cell in reverse, instead of producing electricity, plug in electricity will produce h2. Need a pan to collect the water and wicks to pull it up again. Also a pump to store the hydrogen gas and lower the pressure on the anode side.
My brother in Ra, how does mixing hydrogen and air produce carbon emmisions, where is the carbon added in from. The only thing I can think of that would react with hydrogen from the surrounding air is oxygen, which would then produce H2O or chemically clean water. The hail does the C come from in all of that?
Combustion of hydrogen (H₂) with oxygen (O₂) produces water (H₂O), but high temps cause nitrogen (N₂) in the air to form nitrogen oxides (NOx), contributing to pollution. Also, engine lubricants and fluids can release harmful particles during combustion.
@@srenjensen3817 You do make an excellent point with the engine lubricants, I didn't factor that into the equation; however, I would imagine that in a classic internal combustion engine the majority of the exhaust gasses would be the result of burning fuel, instead burning oil or other lubricants. Unless, of course, the engine itself was known for being an oil guzzler, in which case they would've probably been obsolete in favor of more efficient models, due to practical reasons. At the end of the day though, I would still imagine that lubricant burning is a small percentage of overall engine emmisions. And also the first word of "carbon emmisions" is the infamous "carbon" component, so I'd imagine CH4 and CO2, even though the nitrogen does make up the majority of the air around us, it is still by definition not "carbon" and therefore not a "carbon emmision"; which in the end is still an extremely low percentage of emmisions even within a classic engine.
@@Aconspiracyofravens1 In this case we're talking about engine emmisions of hydrogen powered vehicles. We could make the same argument about all the industrial machinery and refining used to produce lithium batteries, and after that all the fossil fuels burned in order to make the electricity to power the vehicles in the first place. Nothing is without emmisions, but lowering the amount of emmisions is key.
So expensive to build and maintain a Hydrogen car . So expensive to produce Hydrogen and transport it in complicated expensive trucks to the fuel station. The fuel station has limited storage capabilities and only able to refuel a small number of vehicles before needing refuelling itself. There are very few refilling stations. There are more being scrapped than are being built. Hydrogen fuel cell cares have been around for over a decade and are a sales flop. You have to feel sorry for the few owners of these lemons
The membrane or the fuelcell stacks that exchanges hydrogen to electrical energy are troublesome and must be replaced with other components once a year or every 6 months. The membrane is like what you usually see in the RO water filter, except larger depending on the design it can be a rectangle or cylinder with built in heat exchange or cooler. It's very expensive, $10,000 or more to replace it a long with other components. The car works like a hybrid car, battery and all. The coolant to cool the membrane or the fuelcell is another issue to worry about.The membrane only lasts about 6 months to a year, depending on how the car is used. If you park the car for a very long time like a month or so, the system will clog up. Then the membrane and cooling components have to be replaced before you can use the car. The car has to be towed into the shop autorized dealer. So far, there are NO mechanics at the dealer that can work on the cars, due to its complicated system. You must wait for a trained scientist mechanic from Toyota Japan to fly in for your service on an lectrical problem.
All the challenges said against the H2 car was said about electric vehicles. Batteries for EV last about 8 years, IF properly maintained, and even after a year, the charge begins to drop no longer fully charging an EV battery cell. EV have at least 3 to 4 different precious metals to make the batteries that its going to require More Mining of the earth just to meet the demand. So Mining metals or Pumping fossil fuels from the ground, how are either better for the environment? Also, how long does it take to charge an EV? And as that battery gets older, that charge time is going to get Longer, but im sure most people will get rid of that 1st EV and get a new one, so that will be someone elses problem. Right? Typical Human response.
because they use 6 times more energy than an EV, or are so expensive to refill? What about the tank, does it still need to be re changed every 8th year? Where to find filling stations, only outside cities i hope?
@@LonglingEriksen Lng is the king then, all of this EV is just to impractical rn, why would anyone buy it? Energy storage, acidity, charging time and lifetime of lithium Ion batteries is just a joke. Cooling/pressurising Hydrogen to such a degree is also impractical. But to be honest the first cars where also impractical.
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Sorry, but due to the High volatility of hydrogen Isn't it difficult to store hydrogen in tanks without losses?
It is
Solid phase of hydrogen is to be used
@@altamashhhhhhhh Is there a solid phase of Hydrogen? U mean liquid phase, maybe?
@@bliss6495 Never heard of solid phase Hydrogen but liquid Hydrogen does exist at -253C or -423F. Imagine how difficult it is to store/transport a liquid like that. That's why it's stored as pressurized gas instead of liquid on the car.
@@bluenycomand that’s the problem with hydrogen cars is if u got into a accident it blows up
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In my opinion, both electric cars using batteries and hydrogen cars require electricity to produce them. So the green status will really depend on where the electricity comes from? if electricity is generated from solar panels or from hydroelectric power plants then it can be said to be green. Apart from the sources mentioned above, I doubt its green status.
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What would happen if I capture H2O that is exhaust and I use PEM Electrolyzer to convert water to H2 an O2 and use it again for DIY Fuel Cell?
It’s basically fuel cell in reverse, instead of producing electricity, plug in electricity will produce h2. Need a pan to collect the water and wicks to pull it up again. Also a pump to store the hydrogen gas and lower the pressure on the anode side.
This is a win win for everyone
My brother in Ra, how does mixing hydrogen and air produce carbon emmisions, where is the carbon added in from. The only thing I can think of that would react with hydrogen from the surrounding air is oxygen, which would then produce H2O or chemically clean water. The hail does the C come from in all of that?
production of hydrogen require power
Combustion of hydrogen (H₂) with oxygen (O₂) produces water (H₂O), but high temps cause nitrogen (N₂) in the air to form nitrogen oxides (NOx), contributing to pollution. Also, engine lubricants and fluids can release harmful particles during combustion.
Air is mostly comprised of Nitrogen not oxygen so when air is intaked its not just oxygen/hydrogen mixing but Nitrogen/oxygen/Hydrogen mixing
@@srenjensen3817 You do make an excellent point with the engine lubricants, I didn't factor that into the equation; however, I would imagine that in a classic internal combustion engine the majority of the exhaust gasses would be the result of burning fuel, instead burning oil or other lubricants. Unless, of course, the engine itself was known for being an oil guzzler, in which case they would've probably been obsolete in favor of more efficient models, due to practical reasons.
At the end of the day though, I would still imagine that lubricant burning is a small percentage of overall engine emmisions.
And also the first word of "carbon emmisions" is the infamous "carbon" component, so I'd imagine CH4 and CO2, even though the nitrogen does make up the majority of the air around us, it is still by definition not "carbon" and therefore not a "carbon emmision"; which in the end is still an extremely low percentage of emmisions even within a classic engine.
@@Aconspiracyofravens1 In this case we're talking about engine emmisions of hydrogen powered vehicles.
We could make the same argument about all the industrial machinery and refining used to produce lithium batteries, and after that all the fossil fuels burned in order to make the electricity to power the vehicles in the first place.
Nothing is without emmisions, but lowering the amount of emmisions is key.
Hydrogen combustion engine has spark plug and injektor like a gasoline engine
So expensive to build and maintain a Hydrogen car . So expensive to produce Hydrogen and transport it in complicated expensive trucks to the fuel station. The fuel station has limited storage capabilities and only able to refuel a small number of vehicles before needing refuelling itself. There are very few refilling stations. There are more being scrapped than are being built. Hydrogen fuel cell cares have been around for over a decade and are a sales flop. You have to feel sorry for the few owners of these lemons
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that is precisely the situation in japan, that’s why these are made and are mostly japanese.
Why is a better question IMO. Hydrogen as a *general* transportation fuel is simply insane. If one dislikes insane, replace with nuclear stupidity.
The membrane or the fuelcell stacks that exchanges hydrogen to electrical energy are troublesome and must be replaced with other components once a year or every 6 months. The membrane is like what you usually see in the RO water filter, except larger depending on the design it can be a rectangle or cylinder with built in heat exchange or cooler.
It's very expensive, $10,000 or more to replace it a long with other components.
The car works like a hybrid car, battery and all. The coolant to cool the membrane or the fuelcell is another issue to worry about.The membrane only lasts about 6 months to a year, depending on how the car is used. If you park the car for a very long time like a month or so, the system will clog up. Then the membrane and cooling components have to be replaced before you can use the car. The car has to be towed into the shop autorized dealer.
So far, there are NO mechanics at the dealer that can work on the cars, due to its complicated system. You must wait for a trained scientist mechanic from Toyota Japan to fly in for your service on an lectrical problem.
is this chat GPT, have you examined a Toyota fuel cell that's has done 100k and 6 years on the road in Japan
All the challenges said against the H2 car was said about electric vehicles.
Batteries for EV last about 8 years, IF properly maintained, and even after a year, the charge begins to drop no longer fully charging an EV battery cell.
EV have at least 3 to 4 different precious metals to make the batteries that its going to require More Mining of the earth just to meet the demand. So Mining metals or Pumping fossil fuels from the ground, how are either better for the environment?
Also, how long does it take to charge an EV? And as that battery gets older, that charge time is going to get Longer, but im sure most people will get rid of that 1st EV and get a new one, so that will be someone elses problem. Right? Typical Human response.
Chloro Alkali electrolysis can produce Hydrogen as byproduct
Its better than EVS
because they use 6 times more energy than an EV, or are so expensive to refill? What about the tank, does it still need to be re changed every 8th year? Where to find filling stations, only outside cities i hope?
@@LonglingEriksen
Lng is the king then, all of this EV is just to impractical rn, why would anyone buy it? Energy storage, acidity, charging time and lifetime of lithium Ion batteries is just a joke. Cooling/pressurising Hydrogen to such a degree is also impractical. But to be honest the first cars where also impractical.
Hydrogen fuel cell cars are EVs.
Why can’t intelligent people figure out how to run cars on water or something abundant and renewable, I mean we’ve already put a man on the moon
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There are also
HYDROGEN ICE
No one cares cause no one want a hydrogen bomb on wheels.