Thank you Mr. Au to uncover so much info about a legend who I always admire ever since I was a kid. You've separated facts from fiction. Thank you again.
Thank you so much for presenting the true story of Fok Yuen Kap. I still respect him for his participation in setting up an organisation to provide Chinese youth with opportunity to learn martial arts and strengthen themselves. Please do similar stories of Fong Sai Yuk and Wong Fei Hoong, both Cantonese martial arts masters. 🤗
@@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid Agree to disagree. What interests me is no one in Chinese martial arts community so far posts any thoughts on how Huo Yuanjia and his students defeated Judo school at that time, when Judo today seems undefeatable.
@@maxgyan9092 Mr. Au has already said that Huo was just one in the many Chinese martial artists at the time, there were possibly plenty more superior to him. Nowadays, there's no single sect of martial arts that reign supreme. Even the much touted Tai Chi master was roundly defeated by MMA cage fighter, so if I were you, I wouldn't read too much into which style of kung fu is better than the other. Just treat the story of Huo as a folklore and it's entertaining, and it's how I treat it as such.
@@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid What Mr. Au said about Hou Yuanjia being only an average martial artist at the time, becoming famous because of his good connections to 同盟会 , is a point I disagree with. Allow me to share information about another martial artist from that era, Du Xinwu, 杜心五， who was born almost at the same time as Hou. Du served as a bodyguard for several top leaders of 同盟会 , including Sun Yat-sen, and had much better and more direct connections to 同盟会. Despite this, Sun Yat-sen did not mention or write anything about Du Xinwu, choosing to focus on Hou Yuanjia instead. The argument that Hou became famous due to being friends with 同盟会 cannot stand. Meanwhile, I want to clarify that I appreciate Mr. Abu's posts and enjoy many of his researches. This is why I listened and made comments on his RUclips show. I hope he, like me, can be straightforward, and take another look at the narrative around Hou Yuanjia.
@@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid Master Huo may not be one of the best martial artists. However, it is arguable whether there were plenty more superior to him since there was no records to prove or disapprove that. However, there were records his student was able to defeat quite a few challengers. Also, Mr. Au could not prove the challengers back at the time were really his students before the challenge. Check out other records, there were challengers to some famous martial artists later became their students. Thus, this could be a biased point to assume it was fake. Nevertheless, I would doubt all the legends regarding most of the martial artists whether they were as good as sounded.
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08:55 《陳公哲先生知行錄》(1951年出版) 非陳公哲本人撰寫之自傳, 故書中關於霍元甲之評價, 實為作者李晉光的想法
資料詳細，解說清晰，態度專業，多謝棠棠及幕後工作人員❤
多謝棠棠及幕後人員❤
多謝你呀 搜羅咁多資料去講霍元甲嘅歷史畀我哋聽 🙇🏻♂️
首先，我們不會爭論霍元甲是否遭了日本人的毒手，霍元甲的理念是不爭門戶短長，熔各派武術推動武術。霍元甲死后，他的兒子、弟子繼續他的理念，他的貢獻是不可否認的。附註: 如棠哥這麼說，農勁蓀、陳公哲等人成立精武體操會，霍元甲是農勁蓀請了過來做總教練，精武體操會並不是霍元甲建立的，不過，和霍元甲的理念符合。
希望可以講八極李書文🙏
李書文嘅猛虎硬x山被日本神化到😂
我都想知，仲有佢嘅徒弟劉雲樵🙏🏻
「東海趙」、「海門張」比武未必就是假的，他們可能是霍元甲弟子，但他們可能是比武後才拜的師，就像許多李小龍弟子，他們也在挑戰李小龍後才拜的師!
也有這個可能，但在口述 資料中，當事人沒有詳細加以說明，這就很難確實了。正如眾所周知霍元甲的大弟子劉振聲，其實是他的結拜兄弟，所以如果在舊時代，師徒怎可以成爲兄弟呢，誰真誰假，也莫衷一是。
搜索資料不容易，佩服你的專業態度，支持你棠哥，😊😊😊
😊😅
欣賞阿棠製作認真，睇完兩集霍元甲嘅故事真係完全顛覆我自小對霍元甲嘅印象。多謝。
許多武術家被神化，黃飛鴻、孫祿堂、顧汝章、李書文、劉雲樵、楊露禪、和董海川等等， 除了萬籟聲、劉雲樵有實戰記錄，其他的只是故事。
劉振聲 有實戰記錄
謝謝棠哥，您的影片真的很棒，希望未來棠哥可以介紹劉家良師傅和傅聲大哥，棠哥謝謝你
結論：文人多大話，無奈故事就係要亦真亦假先精彩
很喜歡聽你講歷史或故事⋯ 😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
可以說蘇乞兒生平事蹟，多謝業哥加油
Thank you Mr. Au to uncover so much info about a legend who I always admire ever since I was a kid. You've separated facts from fiction. Thank you again.
其實從古至今，從本國至西方，我敢講都不知幾多，甚至大部份歷史、事件，都唔係真㗎啦！ 歷史都係人寫嘅，唔好話寫嘅人嘅背後有咩勢力或者要服侍乜嘢勢力，就算寫嗰陣有少少偏見，都已經同史實有出入！
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多謝棠哥分享！多謝製作團隊！希望下次可以講吓 - 蘇乞兒。
支持支持支持棠哥❤支持棠水舖
棠哥講得真唔錯❤❤❤抑揚頓挫，聽得人好舒服
期待呀🤯🤯
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資料豐富，長知識，謝謝！
Thank you 棠哥！精彩！
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十分中肯。
資料詳細,解說清晰,多謝棠哥分享.
都好客觀
棠哥真係好認真，資料豐富，好野
支持棠哥🎉
Very interesting information.
thx
棠哥、真係好專業💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
用完人個名 就如廁紙咁掉左佢 都係政治既工具
正👍
超正！好想睇空手道故事
nice
支持棠哥
Thank you so much for presenting the true story of Fok Yuen Kap. I still respect him for his participation in setting up an organisation to provide Chinese youth with opportunity to learn martial arts and strengthen themselves. Please do similar stories of Fong Sai Yuk and Wong Fei Hoong, both Cantonese martial arts masters. 🤗
謝棠哥！想聽杜心五、孫綠堂、大山倍達、五虎下江南…
多謝棠哥，希望再能夠再多一 1些武林軼事，謝謝
棠哥 可吾可以有機會講已故武術家李小龍先生 既師兄講手王 黃淳樑師傅既事跡
原來係咁既😊
即係霍元甲喺精武會都係打份工做教頭
🎉🎉
文人梗係誇張d 先好睇嘛
幾時講埋佢個仔霍東閣？
馬來西亞也有精武體育會😁
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霍霍 霍霍霍 霍霍霍 霍家拳的套路招式靈活
👍👍👍👍👍🙏
平江不肖生大胆d真系南拳北腿孙中山同醉拳甘乃迪都有可能写出嚟🤣
可唔可以講下李書文?一個日本人中好出名但係香港就無咩人提
🤩❤🙏
一分材料一分话，这栏目考究真的挺细致
講過杜心五未
要搵宋提刑同周司理驗屍至得啦😂
还原歷史真相，客观分析，使人不会自欺欺人
中藥雄黃切忌火煅，燒煅後即分解為三氧化二砷，即砒霜，有劇毒。
多謝棠哥！
👍 可否講下 蘇乞衣 秋瑾 ... 是否也識武打？🤔
6:11，「宣统元年」？
中國武術本來行師徒制，有樹狀傳承脈絡，師父某程度有權力控制徒弟，以確保自身利益。
而精武體育會改革成學院概念，聘請不同門派師傅教授，學生入門亦必須學習取自不同門派嘅十套拳術套路，合稱「精武十套」。呢個係一種顛覆，學生所學廣闊咗，而教拳師傅就可能搵少咗錢，冇得綁住徒弟跟自己。
霍元甲促成精武誕生，可見佢胸襟廣闊，當時算係思想開放。之後精武南北分會亦有唔少拳師響應加入教拳，可見中國武術界其實冇大家想像中咁保守。
马来西亚都精武体育馆，精武学校，精武court 住宅楼。
請您說廣東奇俠白毛照，（洪照成)。
至善禅師傳洪X官，李祖寬，黃同基，李同寬，何道旦，白毛通，白毛照，（洪照成)七傳子洪耀宗。
棠哥讲的故事，真的非常真实🎉😊
解放後民國英雄都不能提!!文革鬥死幾多抗戰英雄!!今日要偉大復興才被搬出來,後人都唔知祖先發生咩事,只知無啦啦比人話係右派!!!
🥔🥔🥔
講真喇，如果睇電影入面既情節就乜都信曬既話...做人仲有乜意思？而家唔似以前既年代架喇，現代人已經識諗
原來以前都有做神
下期係咪耶穌如何被塑造為聖子？
希望可以講顧汝章，孫綠堂，香港七八十年的自由搏擊擂臺事，謝謝棠哥
馬保國早生幾十年絕對是一代宗師
這些人遲生幾十年絕對是馬保國😂😂😂
@@endy6133 馬保國是太極的，徐曉冬專打太極宗師，馬保國輸給徐之後，又輸給王慶民，30秒內被連續擊倒三次，馬保國認為兩個年輕人有備而來，不講武德，欺騙並偷襲了自己這個「69歲的老同志」。😂😂😂
所以歷史書到底有幾多成真？
希望可以講講真實的黃飛鴻
好耐之前已經講咗，麻煩你搵返嚟睇
舊年代嘅marketing 😂
霍元甲 女兒霍嬌 之兒子，(劉恩湶)先生由山東省來香港，6O，7O年代 是打得之武者。
霍嬌? 霍元甲有兩個兒子。 長子霍東章，次子霍東閣。 三個女兒。 長女東清，次女東琳，三女東琴。
不如講吓王羽
😂
咁講法，霍元甲有啲似馬保國😂
我相信日本人是差，但他們對武術是尊重。
想問一問閣下，歷史中有一位叫陳真的人，是否真有其人，請找一集講述這個人，可以嗎？
No such person. It was a fictitious character.
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我都系果句，叶问都可神化，霍元甲又有几奇，我甚至认为有过之无不及
李小龍打低果個黑人高佬都係佢徒弟😂
渣巴
Sly Stallone was Bruce Lee's kung fu apprentice.
當時日子本人，無出來自辯，奇怪囉
越是怯懦的民族越需要捏造英雄自欺欺人，真正坚毅的族群，不声不响就站起来做实事。
Is there any determined nation according to you😂?
@@Angelaliuwong 你是要我给你定一个标准还是给你一个对比参照物？
塑造英雄是每個組織都會用到的宣導策略，無論國家，軍隊，組織或是團體都會用到的手法
這種與其說「怯懦」，更準確的是數千年來都把服從和朝拜，刻在這個地方的人DNA裡面，比起自身的意志更樂於依附在「領導」來得到安全感
近代因為知識水平和獲取渠道太多，人們已經愈來愈難去塑造需要「完美」的英雄形象，所以還會搞和能搞這種事的地方，通常是限制了前面那兩點操弄而成，甚至會連「不得調侃和侮蔑先列」都可以立法
现代文明不需要人造偶像 @@gustavewill
英雄，明星其实都差不多，有人需要，有一批人塑造。
全是作大😂
講完霍元甲，不如講陳真。是否真有其人？
無，倪匡作嘅
你講得好好，起碼知道一啲武術家一啲歷史
為國為民，但又拿武術，叫齊徒弟一起做"秀"?!
很“人格分裂”喔！
吹水居多，小説美化，幾野瞓低
睇個樣，吾係好打得，
12:20 日本仁丹，明治政府於19世紀未禁止。因為所謂仁丹即是人丹，由人體內藏煉製出來聲稱為醫治肺癆的特效藥，又稱山田丸。
山田丸由山田浅右衛門一家以人體內藏家族秘方煉製，由於需要大量人體內藏。所以由江戶幕府將軍徳川吉宗開始，山田浅右衛門成為公儀御様御用處刑人(斬首)和試刀鑑刀人。他們完成工作會帶走屍骸回府進行分屍和煉丹。
日本人當中國人不是人。
中國從沒英雄 只有狗熊
有一位肩負200斤步行10里，承擔了一切，包括 COVID 19，房地產幾近崩潰，全球為敵，可謂英雄~ 🤣🤣🤣
老實講真與假又有咩所謂，係國家立場團結到中國人就得，唔理黑貓白貓捉到老鼠就是好貓。
无所谓？现在中国年轻人把毛泽东捧上天，一样是团结中国人却不了解毛泽东是什么疯子 这也是可以的吗？历史就是需要推敲验证 而不是得过且过！！
非常遗憾，此两集关于霍元甲的回顾，扮中肯，其实相当偏颇。 试举一例: 霍元甲师徒击败日本柔道师徒。有多个当时不同人记录。你也确认非虚构。单此一点，就可大书特书。如今日本柔道可说打遍天下无敌手。(多谢巴西人)。中国今天有哪个流派哪个高手敢胆叫板日本柔道。有本事说霍元甲水平一般的，不妨也去打赢柔道选手，再来说事。至于为什么迷踪拳/燕青拳能克制如今人见人怕的柔道，就更少人懂得分析及研究了。
Quite the contrary, Mr Au was very UNBIASED in his narration. He didn't beef up the story with his embellishment.
@@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid Agree to disagree. What interests me is no one in Chinese martial arts community so far posts any thoughts on how Huo Yuanjia and his students defeated Judo school at that time, when Judo today seems undefeatable.
@@maxgyan9092 Mr. Au has already said that Huo was just one in the many Chinese martial artists at the time, there were possibly plenty more superior to him. Nowadays, there's no single sect of martial arts that reign supreme. Even the much touted Tai Chi master was roundly defeated by MMA cage fighter, so if I were you, I wouldn't read too much into which style of kung fu is better than the other. Just treat the story of Huo as a folklore and it's entertaining, and it's how I treat it as such.
@@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid What Mr. Au said about Hou Yuanjia being only an average martial artist at the time, becoming famous because of his good connections to 同盟会 , is a point I disagree with. Allow me to share information about another martial artist from that era, Du Xinwu, 杜心五， who was born almost at the same time as Hou. Du served as a bodyguard for several top leaders of 同盟会 , including Sun Yat-sen, and had much better and more direct connections to 同盟会. Despite this, Sun Yat-sen did not mention or write anything about Du Xinwu, choosing to focus on Hou Yuanjia instead. The argument that Hou became famous due to being friends with 同盟会 cannot stand.
Meanwhile, I want to clarify that I appreciate Mr. Abu's posts and enjoy many of his researches. This is why I listened and made comments on his RUclips show. I hope he, like me, can be straightforward, and take another look at the narrative around Hou Yuanjia.
@@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid Master Huo may not be one of the best martial artists. However, it is arguable whether there were plenty more superior to him since there was no records to prove or disapprove that. However, there were records his student was able to defeat quite a few challengers. Also, Mr. Au could not prove the challengers back at the time were really his students before the challenge. Check out other records, there were challengers to some famous martial artists later became their students. Thus, this could be a biased point to assume it was fake. Nevertheless, I would doubt all the legends regarding most of the martial artists whether they were as good as sounded.
大陸歷史同英雄人物,大部分經過神話式幻象流行.
精武體育會 上海會最小教出一位明星石堅 次次黄飛鴻関德興不動如山 石堅使出浑身解数 结果慘敗 每次非常有娱樂性 當年年過半百 同龍哥对打 不落下風
石堅係九龍精武體育會，學過羅漢拳和北螳螂拳
@@chengbill7053 記錯了 記得他在上海讀書有学過功夫 以為系上海. .😂😂
受夠了民族主義，這只會令國家人民失去客觀與理性。
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