I still don’t understand how anyone in that barbershop can say that they “know” Jay-Z didn’t do it. I couldn’t tell you what somebody that I’ve known all of my life is doing right this second, but somehow they know what Jay-Z didn’t do 24 years ago.
Benefit of the doubt is one. Second is civil case not criminal. An email offering asking for a settlement vs going public. And the timing of bringing this to light which happens to be around the corner from the SB. A game where big time sponsors are apart of. Valid questions for something that happened over 2 decades ago. You can conclude you don’t think jay z did it.
We as black people have to start using are heads instead of automatically thinking the defensive is guilty. Come on 13year old 20 years ago by a lawyer who put up a hotline were I watched a RUclipsr on live file a complaint and his firm wanted to take the case off lies.
Speak for yourself this why I don’t hang around 13 and 16 year old girls and guilty or not jay z got history of hanging out with little girls and hang out with people who mess with little girls
@@district120music5 How is that a reach when he got history of messing with Beyoncé and foxy brown at a young age and hung out with p diddy and r Kelly? You are who you hang around with 😂 only a fool didn’t see this coming
This is what the lawyer intended to blackmail him with: telling the public these allegations so that he can be guilty in the public eye and make him lose deals. We live in a day and age where anyone can make something up about you, and people will run with it without fact-checking. Better yet, people actually want to believe it just because they hate to see someone successful while they struggle with life. It's a way that makes people feel better, which is why you see comments like, "It's about time they got Jay-Z," or "Oh, I'm so happy to see his downfall," for no reason whatsoever.
Nobody is celebrating them. We are talking about blk men being attacked by sexual allegations. U mean to tell me guns and roses didn’t have 4:01 groupies and sex parties ? Why and how is the blk man getting blamed
@@ChakaHardin why aren’t regular black men that are ceo’s of other companies being attacked? why aren’t they attacking your everyday black man? Why only celebs? Just because they have money doesn’t mean they aren’t capable of doing things they’ve been accused of.
I hear that but nah if you’re going to make a public accusation you’ve got to make yourself public as well bc the alleged perpetrator is automatically made public.
@@caleebpinkett6450exactly, that’s how it’s always been. You take it to trial and you get that discovery, and in that discovery is the revelation on who your accuser is so that they can be cross examined. It’s not fair to be able to hide your hand in the dark when accusing others of heinous crimes
But yall in there saying BROOKLYN he innocent. Yall contradicting yourself this whole episode. And KIM THE FEMALE SITTING THERE KNOWING YOU SOUND CRAZY!
The Brooklyn part is not that serious, that's just a Brooklyn thing and they are just letting the bias be unhidden especially when the claim seems bogus.
@akeemMagic01 : put it this way then. This was recorded for I Am prolly between 98'-2000? Nas was around Diddy for Hate Me (and other shit prolly). Some lines...just aint "random". And tbh, I always thought THAT particular line was odd asf. Like, be fr. Who ends a bar with coke sniffin, then begin the next line with 13 yr old chickens ?
People want to feel that they “got one over” people that are successful, so anytime something like this comes up they get excited.. we’ve literally not seen any evidence of anything but leave it to the comments.. send everybody to jail
because everyone knows not to be naïve and think every thing you can think of really be happening and its a tight circle who have you seen in that circle come out ad say something before.
@GeMurff she claimed to have been dropped off at Radio City Music Hall (not possible cuz Manhattan streets) during the awards with no way of gaining entry and was accompanied by no one. CAAAAAPPPPPPPP!!!
Ayoo I hope y'all carry the same energy when the Facts hit light!! Math this is the same stance you took when Smart was there telling his truth about the industry!
I think he fits well with the crew…him and Kim to some extent are the only ones who preach accountability which the black culture doesn’t like to hear sometimes…at first he seemed like he was preaching but he brings a disciplined perspective to the crew in my opinion
@ I don’t think anything was filed officially in his case and I understand being falsely accused can be traumatic for men causing years of depression. However, these guys sitting around pretending older men taking advantage of young girls is uncommon or some rare event is just ludicrous. When you idealize celebrities and they don’t turn out to be what you think, that can be quite tragic for your soul.
@datmayne I tend to tune out gat murdah becuase he can be quite annoying to listen too. But Math is acting that way because of his own situation. Where he was accused of sexual assault. Mecca and the two dudes next to him aren’t doing that.
The more it is spoken about, the more legitimacy it gives these accusations. Women who help perpetuate conversations about legitimizing obvious "shake downs" have to remember that they have sons. They have nephews. They have brothers. These type of accusations don't just go away and forgotten. The accused bare the scares forever!
He is taking this personal, the question he needs to ask himself is if jay z is sending people at him there is some truth behind this , this lawyer has a smoking gun and the feds have videos from puff from decades these dudes need to wait before speaking this reckless
in the court of law, it's not about truth but winning the case. if you remain on I'm innocent so I will remain still, you will lose. I think JZ is pissed and wants to destroy the man.
That's because there's been a decade or better where they've been attacking and smearing the reputation of rich black men who have the power to match the elite. If they can disgrace you then your empire and hard work dies because nobody wants to be in business with you. Doesn't it seem funny how they went from saying that it was grown women to now saying that it's kids. Why? Because it's easier to get people to side for Kids than grown ups. And even more ludicrous is that they're claiming that other reputable grown ups just watched it. Can't make this up all for money.
Can’t wait to see math face.. when that day appears and jay is found guilty… math is lame.. he gets madd when he can’t be heard.. gat d riding math for a 400.00 dollar check lol… shout to Mecca.. only guy that has class and smartness
If your going for a criminal conviction then they should remain anonymous.. if your going for a civil lawsuit for money then anonymous should not be an option. Simple.
A typical guilty pdf dares the victim to file criminal charges as if it's a money grab KNOWING THAT THE SATUTE OFLIMITATIONS STOP THEM FROM DOING JUST THAT!!! And they be so above they self they believe themselves so much that they depend on the remedial thinkers to be moved by who he is rather than a simple thought pass their own nose, secondly why would I gaf what you do, show yourself or not criminal case or not goofy I'm innocent lol ish. I hope it's not true frfr but soon as I heard that response and it was from the typical playbook with some nigga sauce trying to tug at the people's hearts man it might be true!
@kstarrr yeah this sounds logical also 🙏 but personally I think if it's a minor there should be no option for civil, criminal conviction or nothing, no amount of money can justify this behaviour towards a child. Money is not a form of justice when horrible things are done to children, lock them up and leave them there.
@@JamieDarkoh i think its about the only way to get open justice and money just comes with it but i agree fucc the money plan to off him until you can money aint gon cut it
None of us can say what these guys did/did not do but what we can say is certain behavior leads to exactly what we are seeing. Just don’t engage yourself in anything that can potentially come back to harm you and then falls on the public to believe/not.
Jayz thinks buzbee is an ambulance chaser. 😂😂😂😂 He has won big cases. He beat BP oil. Jay aint untouchable. He going down. But i dont expect math to go against the grain. He trying to get " inside"...😂😂
🤔🫣🤦🏾♂️ I've got kids. If we had evidence, I wouldn't want my CHILD identity out there for the public too point finger at. This is subject I think the Hoffa Gang should have stepped lightly on. It funny you bring Cassy case up. No one believed her until the evidence came out. 🤦🏾♂️
Exactly they opinions aren't gonna age well, should have said they hope or I don't think he would do this instead of being so sure and like u said they keeping her secret just like a witness or confidential informat so she don't get whacked
Nobody is doing any investigative research on these accusations. Like: Who is the limo driver that supposedly took her to this party? What is the location and exact time? Where was diddy and jay z during this time? By the way, they were at two separate after parties during the time of the alleged incident, apart from the location spoken of. Who are the people in attendance at the residence who saw her flee afterwards? Is their any footage of her in attendance at the vma's? There's cameras all over the place at events like this. But yet, people take anything negative someone say and runaway with it.
Matt sounds like he in jay z side without hearing all the facts- math u made a terrible era- just gotta wait for all the facts- and truth ‘ - diddy said he was innocent for years and now look - but I hope it’s not truth for victims if true and jayz if not - those are just facts
But await a minute....Jay admitted in an interview that he knew Beyonce since she was 14 and started dating her at 16. That was out of his mouth. He was 27 when she was 16. Now Prodigy CLAIMED he was smashing "B" before Jay. Now are we going to dismiss the Aaliyah allegations and the ALLEGATIONS that Jay got Foxy Brown pregnant at 15...?
That is not true at all! For one Beyoncé met Jay Z around 97/98 and started dating around 2002. Aaliyah NEVER DATED JAY Z and met him literally in the final years of her life! They met in 2000 she was 21 ! And Foxy brown multiple times has always stated that she and Jay z never had a relationship! Y’all love to pull BS from conspiracy theorists and straight up fuckery
@@Natural_me1445 In 97 Beyonce was 16. I the LIVE INTERVIEW he did after they got married he told the whole story. He first met her when she was 14. They kept in touch. He was invited to Houston years later when she was 16. He asked her mother if he could date her. Her mother didn't have a problem with it she just asked that they waited for sex until she was of age. The interviewer asked if they waited. Jay chuckled and said "of course".
🕓 WELCOME TO AMERICA. AIN'T NOTHING NEW. Little Africa / Black Wall Street / Tulsa Oklahoma 1921 / Rosewood 1923 / Mississippi 1955 / & that's just right off the dome.
@ I’m sure if there is proof they will but I was getting the sense that Math wouldn’t believe it even if there was proof. He didn’t even want to hear the other side
And Math said it right the first time, people idolize him so they refuse to believe he did something like that with or without facts, it is left to be seen
When you hang out with the wrong crowd you go down with the crowd that's why they doing it the rap game is like the drug game you come up just for them to bring you down
I have come to realize that a number of people draw hard lines about other people’s situations based on their own personal experiences. No objectivity. We have to wait to see the fact and outcome with this Jay Z thing. Some people think he’s innocent because they know/have experienced or have heard of/seen one version of him. Others think he’s guiltily because they know/have experienced or heard of/seen another version of him. Then there’s the ills of the industry, which many have fallen victim to. Bottom line: We never really know the totality of anyone. A person can be great 99 times and bad or terrible. I hope whoever is right/innocent gets justice, whether it’s the accused or the accuser.
There was evidence with Diddy, we saw the tape of him assaulting Cassie.. let’s see evidence then we make a decision.. what do you get by assuming without evidence??
Jay-Z’s character profile that I pay attention to (in no particular order): 1. Abruptly stopped Kaepernick’s police brutality protests in exchange for a halftime show 2. Hired a fed to be the president of Roc Nation 3. Made a double album w/ R Kelly at the height of R Kelly’s vagrancy 4. Undermined Dame Dash while Dame was riding against the industry in Jay’s favor 5. Sold everybody alcohol for decades 6. Gentrified Brooklyn and made it sound like Black empowerment 7. Dated Rihanna before she was an adult
If the accuser filed a criminal case, it would be thrown out as the statue of limitations would've expired and Jay knows this, he ain't slick. Even Diddy said he was innocent and would fight to protect his name and look at him now. Brooklyn down bad, word to the 2 albums Jay-Z has with R.Kelly. Kendrick said it best, these predators run in packs..
There u go!!!!Jay trying to make real power moves by opening up a casino and boom they gotta get him.They don't want no black man getting to rich and powerful!
Yoooo this is foul. I'm from Brooklyn so I don't believe he did it. That's super foul. Wow. Meanwhile Mecca last week arguing against the BS accusation on drake for being a pedophile. Meanwhile he was 30 when beyonce was 18. Which means he didn't just get with her at exactly 18. Then go back to aliyah and foxy.
They got together when Beyonce was 19. Foxy is on record saying people ruined her life with insisting she got with him, when she didn’t. Foxy just called out DJ Akademiks when he was on live. Dame Dash got with Aaliyah before JayZ could. Allegedly Part of the reason they have tension. Funny enough, you can look at the photos from this event in the allegations - the 2000 VMAs - and Aaliyah pulls up with Dame Dash.
Some of these dudes are really weird and they been weird for a min, that's why it's hard to deny because Diddy been known to be a freak and Jay is actually friends with Diddler. So who knows could be true could be false, i would believe a 13 year old over Jay-Z tho. Jay has a lot to lie for.
Two questions: 1.) What does you being from Brooklyn have to do with it? 2.) How do Foxy and Aaliyah (R.I.P) factor into this conversation. Jay was 34 and Beyonce was 22 when they started dating so she was of age. So what is your point?
@@tejay9416 No you people on the internet are weird. So a mysterious person can just anonymously accuse someone and because of who they are you automatically believe the worst about them. Yes Puff and Jay are friends but you have never heard no foul shit attached to Jay’s name. So because he’s friends with Puff that makes him guilty?? F outta here with that.
Jay z AINT NO SAINT, but i dont believe the charges No one ever said he was at a diddy afterparty, Young ambitious women doing for their career : any means necessary It worked for FOXY BROWN Im just sayin
Hold on where did 19 come from Kim just said 16 when they MET she didn't say 19. Math just threw in 19 to try and spin the narrative. Lol. Math you super playing yourself today dog. You doubling down. This episode may not age well and you going to look super crazy afterwards bro sheesh. Stay unbiased bro sheesh
@@ravecomedical9647 that's what's wrong with our people today. Anything they hear is facts especially when it comes to black men. I hope they know God going to judge them just like they did these men and whoever else they've judged without benefit of doubt.
Funny how mecca has a problem with being accused as a sexual offender when its Jay Z but when drake gets called a pedo he says “fuck it”. Damn. Nasty work. Thats what Math and the rest of the crew were trying to explain to him. Being called that is the worst thing u can tag someone with. Especially a man.
As Black men, everybody is down for riding the waves of success that we provide. However, we're by ourselves. With zero evidence provided and a lot of rhetoric being thrown around, Black people are quicker to convict Black power brokers than anyone else on their behalf.
These Jay-Z disciples are about to show these Kendrick sycophants how to follow blindly. Even Jesus had people fall off in his final days. "No false idols before me" mean nothing to these cats. WATCH.
Exactly we should all wait for evidence FIRST before making conclusions.. but some internet folks get excited to see people’s downfall “he replied quick so he must be guilty” is an example of it
To hear them all speak and agree to a “Unfair Bias” is crazy work…. When this entire conversation is an unfair bias lol not one time did they acknowledge the fact that there is a possibility that this COULD be true. Wonder how would they look at the situation in reverse if it was their daughter accusing someone and the first thing everyone did call her bluff and a liar.
40:35 - The European Lawyer has a history of extorting black MALE celebrities--that's why Kim's turning a blind eye to it, especially given the fact that it's one she historically despises in Jay-Z (who she's slandered in exposal documentaries like "A Genius Leaves the Hood: The Unauthorized Story of Jay Z" dating back to 2014). I'm glad that the brothers on this platform stood ten toes down on not co-signing this lawyers filth, he hasn't targeted a single high-profile white male at all during his reign of terror but has this sickening obsession with black men with wealth and influence.
People need to start holding people accountable for providing proof.
I still don’t understand how anyone in that barbershop can say that they “know” Jay-Z didn’t do it. I couldn’t tell you what somebody that I’ve known all of my life is doing right this second, but somehow they know what Jay-Z didn’t do 24 years ago.
Somehow your so sure he did tho..... stfu
I don’t know how u made it this far in life believing everything a woman says 😳🤷🏿♂️
So you can say that he did do it????
Nutt hug jay show say I hope he didn’t
Benefit of the doubt is one. Second is civil case not criminal. An email offering asking for a settlement vs going public. And the timing of bringing this to light which happens to be around the corner from the SB. A game where big time sponsors are apart of. Valid questions for something that happened over 2 decades ago. You can conclude you don’t think jay z did it.
Yall think about 13 girl can leave a VMA party without video or picture. Pass police security n her father just ride home 😂
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its far from impossible
@@meljusttalent1 man stop it
You do know them big parties that have celebrities coming over take your phones and cameras right?
We as black people have to start using are heads instead of automatically thinking the defensive is guilty. Come on 13year old 20 years ago by a lawyer who put up a hotline were I watched a RUclipsr on live file a complaint and his firm wanted to take the case off lies.
Speak for yourself this why I don’t hang around 13 and 16 year old girls and guilty or not jay z got history of hanging out with little girls and hang out with people who mess with little girls
@@Figgs101it already came out as a false allegation stop reaching Stretch Armstrong
@@Figgs101 what little girl was he hanging and around and please do not name another artist that he had a reason to be around.
@@district120music5 How is that a reach when he got history of messing with Beyoncé and foxy brown at a young age and hung out with p diddy and r Kelly? You are who you hang around with 😂 only a fool didn’t see this coming
@ Beyoncé and foxy brown?
Whatever is in the dark will always come to light so let’s stick with facts and not assumptions or emotions whether you’re a Jay fan or not
This is what the lawyer intended to blackmail him with: telling the public these allegations so that he can be guilty in the public eye and make him lose deals. We live in a day and age where anyone can make something up about you, and people will run with it without fact-checking. Better yet, people actually want to believe it just because they hate to see someone successful while they struggle with life. It's a way that makes people feel better, which is why you see comments like, "It's about time they got Jay-Z," or "Oh, I'm so happy to see his downfall," for no reason whatsoever.
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Nothing but facts stated!
Diddy was innocent too until the tape came out.
SO FAR DIDDY IS ONLY GUILTY OF DOMESTIC ABUSE, WHICH IS TERRIBLE BUT THERE IS STILL NO PROOF OF ALL THE OTHER CRIMES THAT HE IS CHARGED WITH…
No he wasn’t 😂 everybody knew he was done! Tf you talkin’ bout?
@@tristanchueyyea Campbell Joe done too tf u taking bout
All the video showed was he physically assaulted her ... what Cassie alleged was far worse than that
This j lyric lets me know he guilty!!!! “I left condoms on ya baby seat” Wut non pdfile would say & do that!?
Where’s the statistics for black men spending their lives in prison for crimes they didn’t commit? I bet we lead that chart.
Exactly
Y’all betta quit Idolizing these Celebs! They be the most Wicked
Jay been telling us he the Boogeyman. Is he liar?
Nobody is celebrating them. We are talking about blk men being attacked by sexual allegations. U mean to tell me guns and roses didn’t have 4:01 groupies and sex parties ? Why and how is the blk man getting blamed
@@ChakaHardin that part...everyone want to be the most woke nigga smh
@@ChakaHardin why aren’t regular black men that are ceo’s of other companies being attacked? why aren’t they attacking your everyday black man? Why only celebs? Just because they have money doesn’t mean they aren’t capable of doing things they’ve been accused of.
Y’all gotta stop having so much hatred for successful black men!Believing ridiculous stories about people!
Stipulation!!The accuser should lose anonymity when allegations are found to be false. True victims are still protected and liars are outed
I hear that but nah if you’re going to make a public accusation you’ve got to make yourself public as well bc the alleged perpetrator is automatically made public.
@@caleebpinkett6450exactly, that’s how it’s always been. You take it to trial and you get that discovery, and in that discovery is the revelation on who your accuser is so that they can be cross examined. It’s not fair to be able to hide your hand in the dark when accusing others of heinous crimes
But yall in there saying BROOKLYN he innocent. Yall contradicting yourself this whole episode. And KIM THE FEMALE SITTING THERE KNOWING YOU SOUND CRAZY!
He maybe
The Brooklyn part is not that serious, that's just a Brooklyn thing and they are just letting the bias be unhidden especially when the claim seems bogus.
This is what happens when you give a person like Jaguar Wright a voice on a plate form.
Nas spoke on this: "Coke sniffin, tappin 13 yr chickens." - U Gotta Love It
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@akeemMagic01 : put it this way then. This was recorded for I Am prolly between 98'-2000? Nas was around Diddy for Hate Me (and other shit prolly). Some lines...just aint "random". And tbh, I always thought THAT particular line was odd asf. Like, be fr. Who ends a bar with coke sniffin, then begin the next line with 13 yr old chickens ?
He wasn’t talking about any of them you creep
Y'all do know cocaine is called Birds, and he's sniffin it..... y'all are overthinking 😂
@@goodymob9638actually you overthinking if you believe Nas’ “tapping 13 year old chickens” line is him talking about bricks😂
Math hoffa can be very childish for a 40 sumn y/o
He’s just the brightest bulb
judging from all the comments i've seen on social media a lot of ppl want Jay-Z or anybody famous to be guilty
People want to feel that they “got one over” people that are successful, so anytime something like this comes up they get excited.. we’ve literally not seen any evidence of anything but leave it to the comments.. send everybody to jail
@@Mikeskills “I left condoms on ya baby seat” j exposed his pdfile behavior
I really appreciate Mecca’s voice of reason on this podcast.
Yeah , the guy that has no problem with gender affirming children ..he says “mind your business “ 👍🏿😂
@@qdigggsI never heard him say that 😏
When he isn’t speaking like a smart mouth ghetto b- I agree
Ain't no Shaitan robbing me... Lawyer so good, I'm practically living tax free...
Jay-Z
What song is that
@mj4life2009 Meek Mill - What's Free (ft. Rick Ross, Jay Z) from the album Championships
Hov ready
Ain’t it shaytan/ shaaytan??
TALK TO EM 😂
How a 13 year old get to the MTV awards ????? Why no one is asking that question
She could get there anybody could especially if she from NYC we out in the streets early
Diddy used to take 13 year old Usher to strip clubs, some security simply don't care or can be bought
And an after party also ..... the parents should be charged too
because everyone knows not to be naïve and think every thing you can think of really be happening and its a tight circle who have you seen in that circle come out ad say something before.
@GeMurff she claimed to have been dropped off at Radio City Music Hall (not possible cuz Manhattan streets) during the awards with no way of gaining entry and was accompanied by no one. CAAAAAPPPPPPPP!!!
These guys sound worst than groupies.
You just a hater go watch a Jay hate show then it’s plenty 😂😂
@@bodelo767gang2it was similar to baby oil dude.
@@e.e6669 you’re mad because they didn’t tear Jay down ?, is that it ??
Exactly, It's hard talking to people that speak on a 13 year old level.
What did Jay do? Jay protected black women. Jay's team sued Kansas city detective, Roger Golubski for graping BW and he unalived himself.
Ayoo I hope y'all carry the same energy when the Facts hit light!! Math this is the same stance you took when Smart was there telling his truth about the industry!
Mecca needs his own platform fr!!
I think he does actually have his own personal podcast. He doesn't promote it.
I think he fits well with the crew…him and Kim to some extent are the only ones who preach accountability which the black culture doesn’t like to hear sometimes…at first he seemed like he was preaching but he brings a disciplined perspective to the crew in my opinion
I second that motion
Mecca is very smart, & I always respect his perspective
@@jaranameer2882 yea and call it "Too Biased"
Without knowing the full case and facts, over reacting on behalf of Jay-Z is nasty work. Math with the emotional theatrics, truly unbearable bro.
His own story is mad suspect....js
@ I don’t think anything was filed officially in his case and I understand being falsely accused can be traumatic for men causing years of depression. However, these guys sitting around pretending older men taking advantage of young girls is uncommon or some rare event is just ludicrous. When you idealize celebrities and they don’t turn out to be what you think, that can be quite tragic for your soul.
@datmayne I tend to tune out gat murdah becuase he can be quite annoying to listen too. But Math is acting that way because of his own situation. Where he was accused of sexual assault. Mecca and the two dudes next to him aren’t doing that.
Very weird indeed. Did he get paid
Mannnnn sane shit he was doin wit da drake lawsuit
The more it is spoken about, the more legitimacy it gives these accusations. Women who help perpetuate conversations about legitimizing obvious "shake downs" have to remember that they have sons. They have nephews. They have brothers.
These type of accusations don't just go away and forgotten. The accused bare the scares forever!
Math Has to Let Kim Speak uninterrupted at Some Point...
He is taking this personal, the question he needs to ask himself is if jay z is sending people at him there is some truth behind this , this lawyer has a smoking gun and the feds have videos from puff from decades these dudes need to wait before speaking this reckless
I concur !
in the court of law, it's not about truth but winning the case. if you remain on I'm innocent so I will remain still, you will lose. I think JZ is pissed and wants to destroy the man.
24 years later and no criminal charges filed!? Yea this a Blackmail😂
@@Deeman-212 A lot of these celebs work with the feds/cia/police & can get away wit it.Even civil is risky.
Let’s not forget about Vince Mcmahon, he is going through the same shit and you haven’t heard a word from a bird about it🤔
That's because there's been a decade or better where they've been attacking and smearing the reputation of rich black men who have the power to match the elite. If they can disgrace you then your empire and hard work dies because nobody wants to be in business with you. Doesn't it seem funny how they went from saying that it was grown women to now saying that it's kids. Why? Because it's easier to get people to side for Kids than grown ups. And even more ludicrous is that they're claiming that other reputable grown ups just watched it. Can't make this up all for money.
😂😂😂 Vince told us himself, there was no surprise there.
And they actually had text messages between him and one employee he sexually abused. But yes a few man and they put Cosby in jail behind heresy 🤦🏾♂️
I've been saying for months and it's been falling in deaf ears. Linda had to disassociate herself from him once Trump added her to his administration.
I’ll say this. Idk what he did cuz I don’t know Jay, only what I’ve been shown so in this case I’ll just let the cards fall where they may
Can’t wait to see math face.. when that day appears and jay is found guilty… math is lame.. he gets madd when he can’t be heard.. gat d riding math for a 400.00 dollar check lol… shout to Mecca.. only guy that has class and smartness
And if he’s found not guilty, will you be here too and say you were wrong? Or you’ll disappear and move on? It goes both ways doesn’t it?
Sexual Assault will damage a black Man’s career and Life. Much Respect to Jay Z saying if I did this then charge me with a crime. Not My Wallet ✊🏾💯
*any man
If your going for a criminal conviction then they should remain anonymous.. if your going for a civil lawsuit for money then anonymous should not be an option. Simple.
I totally agree. The only way it should remain private is if the civil suit is on behalf of someone who is currently a minor.
A typical guilty pdf dares the victim to file criminal charges as if it's a money grab KNOWING THAT THE SATUTE OFLIMITATIONS STOP THEM FROM DOING JUST THAT!!! And they be so above they self they believe themselves so much that they depend on the remedial thinkers to be moved by who he is rather than a simple thought pass their own nose, secondly why would I gaf what you do, show yourself or not criminal case or not goofy I'm innocent lol ish. I hope it's not true frfr but soon as I heard that response and it was from the typical playbook with some nigga sauce trying to tug at the people's hearts man it might be true!
@kstarrr yeah this sounds logical also 🙏 but personally I think if it's a minor there should be no option for civil, criminal conviction or nothing, no amount of money can justify this behaviour towards a child. Money is not a form of justice when horrible things are done to children, lock them up and leave them there.
@@JamieDarkoh i think its about the only way to get open justice and money just comes with it but i agree fucc the money plan to off him until you can money aint gon cut it
@@JamieDarkoh and the law makers make it to where the statute of limitations run out but you can still sue civil. but think about why
Wild times we're in 💀
None of us can say what these guys did/did not do but what we can say is certain behavior leads to exactly what we are seeing. Just don’t engage yourself in anything that can potentially come back to harm you and then falls on the public to believe/not.
@Math Hoffa, for some reason i find that the female host does not vibe right with you all in that room. keeping it real
Nobody vibes with him duh lol
@@montprice6722 explain please...
New York got that Sean Carter loyalty heavy
Not at all paul
@samto7857 Yeah ryt LOL
just let the apology be as loud as the accusations. A person gets accused, the case is thrown out, and nobody hears about it, that's crazy.
@Star-hg1kt y
Jay haters went public in 2001, and never left
No they don’t, ..guilty
Jayz thinks buzbee is an ambulance chaser. 😂😂😂😂
He has won big cases. He beat BP oil. Jay aint untouchable. He going down. But i dont expect math to go against the grain. He trying to get " inside"...😂😂
then why not file a criminal case....hahahaha. Jay is smarter than the average cat.
Lol if Jay Z is found not guilty then I expect you to comment too.. but we all know you’ll be gone with the wind 😂😂
This is a barbershop convo, THE WOMAN THROWS EVERYTHING OFF.
100%, the black men held it down. The fact that she’s even entertaining that crap is egregious.
I agree. And. I’m a woman. She shouldn’t of been here for this one
The female was an editor for source magazine she knows hip-hop artist for the past 30 years
These dudes act like they know for sure smh. If I don’t know 🤷🏾♂️ then I don’t know!
Hoffa is a genius... sticking up for Jay-Z so his platform can get recognition!!!
His platform already has recognition sir
P DIDDY JAY Z POWERFUL BLACK BILLIONAIRES THE POWER STRUCTURE WANTS THESE BLACK MEN GONE STAY WOKE 💯
Oh foh with that bullshit
🤔🫣🤦🏾♂️ I've got kids. If we had evidence, I wouldn't want my CHILD identity out there for the public too point finger at. This is subject I think the Hoffa Gang should have stepped lightly on. It funny you bring Cassy case up. No one believed her until the evidence came out. 🤦🏾♂️
Exactly they opinions aren't gonna age well, should have said they hope or I don't think he would do this instead of being so sure and like u said they keeping her secret just like a witness or confidential informat so she don't get whacked
The person isn't currently a child. The allegation is said to take place in 2000. She's about 37 years old.
The Jane Doe is NOT A KID. She is almost 40 (37 to be exact). That’s NOT A KID. A 37 yr old KID 😂
she aint no child it was 20 yrs ago allegedly
This a 38 year old woman now
Just like the jim crow era...they NEED to make you SEEM like the villian.
Ya gonna look crazy when he guilty 🤦🏾♂️…they all going down and it’s just sad to see when ur idols become idiots
YOU A IMMIGRANT HUH?
Even if they all go down, that wouldn’t change your troubled life. Bringing down all successful people wouldn’t change your life.
It's not even a criminal case😂...
And you know this because??
You look crazy now. With no evidence.
Nobody is doing any investigative research on these accusations. Like: Who is the limo driver that supposedly took her to this party? What is the location and exact time? Where was diddy and jay z during this time? By the way, they were at two separate after parties during the time of the alleged incident, apart from the location spoken of. Who are the people in attendance at the residence who saw her flee afterwards? Is their any footage of her in attendance at the vma's? There's cameras all over the place at events like this. But yet, people take anything negative someone say and runaway with it.
Especially in Radio city music hall
Matt sounds like he in jay z side without hearing all the facts- math u made a terrible era- just gotta wait for all the facts- and truth ‘ - diddy said he was innocent for years and now look - but I hope it’s not truth for victims if true and jayz if not - those are just facts
This is a 24 year old situation what happened the days after this incident she was 14 now she is 38 waited all these years to do this enough already
Her name should be exposed she's grown
But await a minute....Jay admitted in an interview that he knew Beyonce since she was 14 and started dating her at 16. That was out of his mouth. He was 27 when she was 16. Now Prodigy CLAIMED he was smashing "B" before Jay. Now are we going to dismiss the Aaliyah allegations and the ALLEGATIONS that Jay got Foxy Brown pregnant at 15...?
That is not true at all! For one Beyoncé met Jay Z around 97/98 and started dating around 2002. Aaliyah NEVER DATED JAY Z and met him literally in the final years of her life! They met in 2000 she was 21 ! And Foxy brown multiple times has always stated that she and Jay z never had a relationship! Y’all love to pull BS from conspiracy theorists and straight up fuckery
@@Natural_me1445
In 97 Beyonce was 16. I the LIVE INTERVIEW he did after they got married he told the whole story. He first met her when she was 14. They kept in touch. He was invited to Houston years later when she was 16. He asked her mother if he could date her. Her mother didn't have a problem with it she just asked that they waited for sex until she was of age. The interviewer asked if they waited. Jay chuckled and said "of course".
Facts @@Natural_me1445
@@Natural_me1445there’s pics of Aliyah and Jay before 2000. Dame dash told the story numerous times of him and Jay battling to get Aliyah. 🤷🏾♂️
@@a.l.r3721 battle and dating is not the same
🕓 WELCOME TO AMERICA. AIN'T NOTHING NEW.
Little Africa / Black Wall Street / Tulsa Oklahoma 1921 / Rosewood 1923 / Mississippi 1955 / & that's just right off the dome.
“They tryna blackmail another billionaire, like how dare a black male become a billionaire ?” Incoming jigga bars
THE ULTIMATE WAR IS THE WAR OF WORDS. ☀️🌌✨
That last line of his response let you know he aint even about to play with them😂😂
The room seems very biased
Math is !
@ yup especially him!
sounds like they're saying show the proof.....
@ I’m sure if there is proof they will but I was getting the sense that Math wouldn’t believe it even if there was proof. He didn’t even want to hear the other side
I don’t like Kim Osorio on this platform
Why not she's dope
& what exactly make her dope…? 🤔🤦🏾♂️
😂😂😂😂
She need to dress sexy at least. 🤷🏾♂️
No woman should be a part of the barbershop talk. I agree
And Math said it right the first time, people idolize him so they refuse to believe he did something like that with or without facts, it is left to be seen
I’m a Nas dude but I need some proof on these allegations.
He did it to foxy brown
@@leonardtellis6057foxy says otherwise
@@romeod7549 totally agree but I was just sensing a lot of bias watching this
@@tammym1458 i think the stance gotta be innocent until proven guilty.
TEACH! GREAT DISCUSSIONS,BRAVO!!KEEP IT UP.
When you hang out with the wrong crowd you go down with the crowd that's why they doing it the rap game is like the drug game you come up just for them to bring you down
I have come to realize that a number of people draw hard lines about other people’s situations based on their own personal experiences. No objectivity.
We have to wait to see the fact and outcome with this Jay Z thing. Some people think he’s innocent because they know/have experienced or have heard of/seen one version of him. Others think he’s guiltily because they know/have experienced or heard of/seen another version of him. Then there’s the ills of the industry, which many have fallen victim to.
Bottom line: We never really know the totality of anyone. A person can be great 99 times and bad or terrible.
I hope whoever is right/innocent gets justice, whether it’s the accused or the accuser.
He didn’t do it. That’s exactly what everyone was saying about Diddy, but the truth was revealed.
Remember these words. You wanna see Jay fail so bad. It's sad..
Diddy has always been a creep. Think Jay is a good dude, but only time will tell.
There was evidence with Diddy, we saw the tape of him assaulting Cassie.. let’s see evidence then we make a decision.. what do you get by assuming without evidence??
This video was eye-opening. Your humble approach made it all the more effective.
Jay-Z’s character profile that I pay attention to (in no particular order):
1. Abruptly stopped Kaepernick’s police brutality protests in exchange for a halftime show
2. Hired a fed to be the president of Roc Nation
3. Made a double album w/ R Kelly at the height of R Kelly’s vagrancy
4. Undermined Dame Dash while Dame was riding against the industry in Jay’s favor
5. Sold everybody alcohol for decades
6. Gentrified Brooklyn and made it sound like Black empowerment
7. Dated Rihanna before she was an adult
All facts. Our ppl are too fanned out to peep the snake he really is
The 🐫 definitely has a 🐍 mentality. I wouldn't trust anything he says!
If the accuser filed a criminal case, it would be thrown out as the statue of limitations would've expired and Jay knows this, he ain't slick. Even Diddy said he was innocent and would fight to protect his name and look at him now. Brooklyn down bad, word to the 2 albums Jay-Z has with R.Kelly. Kendrick said it best, these predators run in packs..
20 years after adult hood..he's within the statute. I looked it up...she has until her 41s bday to file criminal charges
Roc Nation is trying to put a casino in Time Square
There u go!!!!Jay trying to make real power moves by opening up a casino and boom they gotta get him.They don't want no black man getting to rich and powerful!
Hmmm@@drerush9065
Sued Mississippi Department of Corrections
Soooooo why didn't we do this for Diddy then? Why wasn't this done for Cosby, why wasn't this done for Drake BS Kendrick accusation
Do what for Diddy ? Diddy has been indicted by the feds. U prob thought it would sound cool just saying that huh 🤦♀️
drake bs!? drake is on video at a concert kissin a minor & all up on her & even says he don’t wanna go 2 jail.
If Hov is guilty hip-hop is dead Brooklyn stand up don't go for the lies, everybody wants free money
Oh now its cool to sue all of the sudden lmao
Yoooo this is foul. I'm from Brooklyn so I don't believe he did it. That's super foul. Wow. Meanwhile Mecca last week arguing against the BS accusation on drake for being a pedophile. Meanwhile he was 30 when beyonce was 18. Which means he didn't just get with her at exactly 18. Then go back to aliyah and foxy.
They got together when Beyonce was 19.
Foxy is on record saying people ruined her life with insisting she got with him, when she didn’t. Foxy just called out DJ Akademiks when he was on live.
Dame Dash got with Aaliyah before JayZ could. Allegedly Part of the reason they have tension. Funny enough, you can look at the photos from this event in the allegations - the 2000 VMAs - and Aaliyah pulls up with Dame Dash.
Some of these dudes are really weird and they been weird for a min, that's why it's hard to deny because Diddy been known to be a freak and Jay is actually friends with Diddler. So who knows could be true could be false, i would believe a 13 year old over Jay-Z tho. Jay has a lot to lie for.
Two questions: 1.) What does you being from Brooklyn have to do with it? 2.) How do Foxy and Aaliyah (R.I.P) factor into this conversation. Jay was 34 and Beyonce was 22 when they started dating so she was of age. So what is your point?
@@tejay9416 No you people on the internet are weird. So a mysterious person can just anonymously accuse someone and because of who they are you automatically believe the worst about them. Yes Puff and Jay are friends but you have never heard no foul shit attached to Jay’s name. So because he’s friends with Puff that makes him guilty?? F outta here with that.
Jay z AINT NO SAINT, but i dont believe the charges
No one ever said he was at a diddy afterparty,
Young ambitious women doing for their career : any means necessary
It worked for FOXY BROWN
Im just sayin
Hold on where did 19 come from Kim just said 16 when they MET she didn't say 19. Math just threw in 19 to try and spin the narrative. Lol. Math you super playing yourself today dog. You doubling down. This episode may not age well and you going to look super crazy afterwards bro sheesh. Stay unbiased bro sheesh
I think we should take an allegation of this magnitude seriously. The Lawyer is representing a client so why is it about the lawyer?
He made it about himself talking about serving in the military. Is it about him or the victim.
The lawyer is helping push the issue.....
Right is right WRONG IS WRONG! MOST OF THESE RAPPERS ARE NOT RIGHTEOUS! Y’all SICK!
But you are watching a rapper on their platform..make it make sense
Most people are not righteous gtfoh
@@ravecomedical9647 that's what's wrong with our people today. Anything they hear is facts especially when it comes to black men. I hope they know God going to judge them just like they did these men and whoever else they've judged without benefit of doubt.
You are right !! But your statement reads like you already made your judgement with no evidence … weird moves
Math u need to let your team talk more let them eat homie
You can tell Kim don’t like Jay Z
Yep...I've noticed that a lot since she's been on the show
Facts or men 😂
Yeah bcuz she know he a scumbag !
@@slim28379 it's crazy that's what you took from that lol
Or maybe she don’t like grown azz men that takes advantage of 13 year old girls!
At the end of the day, we have the right to confront our accuser. Stop tryna hide behind it. Cassie ain’t hide behind her’s. Foh.
Funny how mecca has a problem with being accused as a sexual offender when its Jay Z but when drake gets called a pedo he says “fuck it”. Damn. Nasty work. Thats what Math and the rest of the crew were trying to explain to him. Being called that is the worst thing u can tag someone with. Especially a man.
As Black men, everybody is down for riding the waves of success that we provide. However, we're by ourselves. With zero evidence provided and a lot of rhetoric being thrown around, Black people are quicker to convict Black power brokers than anyone else on their behalf.
10:30 Math find a New Female Co-Host…. SHE SHOWED HER TRUE COLORS she not like us
What are you talking about
Mecca needs a stylist 😂
Should allegations be taken seriously from over 10 or 20 years ago??
Of course how did you even think that was a sensible thing to ask
These Jay-Z disciples are about to show these Kendrick sycophants how to follow blindly. Even Jesus had people fall off in his final days. "No false idols before me" mean nothing to these cats. WATCH.
Always remember everyone thought Cassie was lying, until the video came out. So, no one knows except Hov and the alleged victim.
Exactly we should all wait for evidence FIRST before making conclusions.. but some internet folks get excited to see people’s downfall “he replied quick so he must be guilty” is an example of it
Most def when I see the evidence of whatever allegedly happened I can then assess the situation.
yeah im sure Jay Z also knows that lol i wonder if he would fight this hard knowing in the back of his mind there’s video footage….from 2004 lol
"RIGHTIOUS RETRIBUTION 🙌"
It shouldn’t matter what color you are, if you did something like that you should be exposed
How do u know he did it?
@ I don’t know but that’s not what my comment is saying
A drugged 13yo fought off 2 energetic 31yo black men?her father picked her up and just went home. Pls.jay gon own this lawfirm soon
Why did you say black men 🤦🏽
@JTXA7 black men r usually physically stronger than other races silly
im sorry as much as i love this channel this is definitely bias reporting. we talking about kids here man
Bias reporting?? So then what are the facts?
Until we see EVIDENCE, WE MUST SUPPORT OUR BLACK CELEBS. ALLEGATIONS WITHOUT EVIDENCE IS NULL AND VOID. WAKE UP PEOPLE. JUST SHOW US SOME EVIDENCE.
You sound extremely ignorant.
Why? How old are you?
Kim is real for vouching for Kanye
I always like her input‼️ even from the early days💗
Hov spoke right away on this that speaks volumes. He hasn't responded this way to Dame. Im not buying this story. Prayers for all SA victims tho
So you think S.A. allegations and Dame Dash are of equal importance? Smh
He trying to distance himself from Diddy. Who about to be buried under the jail
To hear them all speak and agree to a “Unfair Bias” is crazy work…. When this entire conversation is an unfair bias lol not one time did they acknowledge the fact that there is a possibility that this COULD be true. Wonder how would they look at the situation in reverse if it was their daughter accusing someone and the first thing everyone did call her bluff and a liar.
DAN YALL MAKING EXCUSES FOR JAY LOL NY NY
This guys just don’t want to believe their daddy is the bad guy. 😂😂😂
Whomever is making this claim cannot file a criminal case due to the statute of limitations. But it sounds good in a statement.
No statue of limitations on child SA
Not in NYC
your comment sounds good too but the statute got extended…
No hov gonna sue everybody that play with his name 😂. U getting sue you getting sue everybody getting sue 😂
JAY Z IS ON THE EPSTEIN FLIGHT LOGS!
He might be in the Diddy Videos...
😂😂 y’all just elected a man who was on the same flight logs, there is no standard
40:35 - The European Lawyer has a history of extorting black MALE celebrities--that's why Kim's turning a blind eye to it, especially given the fact that it's one she historically despises in Jay-Z (who she's slandered in exposal documentaries like "A Genius Leaves the Hood: The Unauthorized Story of Jay Z" dating back to 2014). I'm glad that the brothers on this platform stood ten toes down on not co-signing this lawyers filth, he hasn't targeted a single high-profile white male at all during his reign of terror but has this sickening obsession with black men with wealth and influence.
How math know it's not true this is probably time stamped on the p diddy tape
Math you might as well wear yaga pants….😂😂😂 2:36 2:38
Dang Math so you using your show to hope and speak out danger to the victims that DARE to say something happened
24 years ago ? Hello.... Victim ? Hello
i like how they still promoting chris music intro on here that’s love
She said she lied to her parents about where she was going
So she may have also lied about where she went 🤔
The parents should of had a tracking on her phone
@@dwaynewarren9565really ? in the early 2000’s ? bet
The opinions in this video are gonna age like wine 🍷 or milk 🥛 .