Agree, a geographic solution to an emotional problem. Perhaps not the answer but might help you find one. Better environment, better mood. Found the general level of apathy and cynicism in the UK soul destroying.
"Wherever you go, there you are." You can leave behind everything but YOU. If you're "cutting all ties" and "making a fresh start" and so on, it's like hoeing a garden: in time, the usual issues, irritations, joys, and grievances will reappear. Keep aware and tend to your selfcare regularly. It's taken me years to do this, and still have to remind myself frequently. Thank you for your honesty and insights, Wayne. Cheers!
You're a good man for having raised depression Wayne. It's all too real as you say. I'm really enjoying going through your thoughtful and polite videos videos. Take care mate
@@WalkAboutWayne will retire in the kingdom in 12 weeks time Wayne, love to shout you a coffee one day. Regards till then and thank you for the work you do
You nailed this 100%. I've been in Thailand 2 years and even though I don't drink nor smoke nor being a party person, I understand every single word you said. I work online, but I have to find extra activities and normal friends to fill my time and not fall in temptation. Send hugs to Chiang Mai mate!
#nailedit Everything you said, every word is true. Especially about living in chunks of time, and keeping things fresh helps a lot. Finding a hobby or sport too keeps you going. I was heavy into theater and art classes and photography when I lived in Chiang Mai which kept my mental health steady. Thailand is inexpensive enough that you can easily hop on a train or a plane and check things out. This won't solve your problems but it can keep your mind fresh. Keep posting things like this, Wayne. Folks gotta know and you need to tell them. Take it easy, man!🙂
@@Mark-England Tons of movie theaters (of course) at every single mall. Maya, Central, etc. Less expensive than in America and fantastic comfortable places to watch your favorite new releases. Live English-speaking theater, via The Gate Theater (Stephan Turner) which performs various live productions from time to time, and there are other English-speaking groups as well. If you are into Jazz, then the NorthGate Jazz Co-op is a fun venue.
I was depressed in SEA. And got depressed at home. Finally grasped the truth..."Wherever you go, there you are". So hope to go a few months at a time, like you said. Thanks.
This is so true, Wayne. Wherever you go, you take your problems with you. No place in the world is paradise. Even your own home country. Life is life. You have to make your own fun and try to be positive wherever you go. People suffer from an array of different mental issues, and no place is an easy fix. We agree with you 100%
Thanks for asking Wayne. We are loving here so far. As you said, many stay in holiday mode when they move here. We did that for 3 months and still have the occasional tourist day. Life is good here in Chiang Mai.
Wayne, so grateful for this one, mate. I'm one of those dudes right on the fence about the move to Thailand. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking, "What the f#@% am I thinking giving everything up and moving to Thailand." Next morning, with coffee, I think, "Of course Thailand makes sense on so many levels." I am the classic overthinking westerner and that can also impact mental health. Respect to you Wayne for living life on your own terms and your willingness to keep it real and honest.
Thanks for sharing this. This comments reflects me and so many other people I think. I was the same as you, at home, over thinking everything. One day I was going to Thailand, the next day I was saving more and putting it off. I hope you can come to the decision that's right for you. Thanks buddy.
I'm glad you talked about this, Wayne. You know how I struggled with loneliness and I was only there 6 weeks! I planned to retire early and live in Chiang Mai for a couple of years until I could start getting my retirement income in the US, but I was too lonely so I'm working hard for a few more years and then I'll retire. It's different for women; we aren't going to Thailand looking for a partner, whereas I think most men are. I probably won't go back unless I bring a friend.
Awww. yes I know you really struggled. It can be really difficult and you sure did experience that. I hope you can come back one day, with a fried maybe. 🙏
I retired early-age 55, I spend my time volunteering in different countries and budget travelling interspersed with trips home. I’m a solo traveller. alone, yes but lonely rarely. I’m home now due to health and family reasons but I’ll be back on the road as soon as I can.
I lived in Chiang Mai for nearly a year in 2019. I am a widow and not looking for a partner either. I went back to the US to earn money and await Social Security Survivor's Benefits. I'll be returning to Thailand in a few years. I highly recommend getting involved in a hobby or interest. I was heavy into local theater, acted in my first play while there. Very fun and I made a ton of friends, many of whom are still living there. Let me know if you decide to go back to Thailand.
In recent times I had some very close people to me tried and succeeded in crushing me financially and emotionally. They were successful and as a result I developed PTSD. Everything I valued was taken from me. Long story short: in two months time I am heading to both Thailand and the Philippines to scope out a place to live. The new locations will be a novelty and a distraction for a few weeks. I know I have to go there with a plan of living a normal and healthy life....and grief and depression will still pay me visits. No woman or place or car or addiction will fill a gap in your soul/ heart. One can not chase happiness, at best we can work towards gratitude. Thank you for covering such an important issue.
Thanks you for sharing this Wayne. It's helpful to people to hear. I hope everything works out for you in Thailand and The Philippines. Good luck buddy!
Thanks for being real, I lived in Ruamchok area for 18 months on a Non-O visa, totally isolated, no friends, don’t speak Thai, don’t drink, spent most days at home. Had a GF, but was supporting her, 1 year house lease, I was locked in. I let my visa run out, back in the sates since September. Next trip will be in June, but will not get locked into a girl or a location, I think you advice of moving around and keeping the mind fresh is good advice. Always enjoy your channel and your honesty, thanks Wayne.
Thanks for sharing this, I can totally understand and many others will also. I think moving around, or having trips every so often, helps. Thanks for liking the channel .
I plan on retiring in Thailand soon. I was in Thailand before. I can understand your video 100 percent. Keep moving around is the key I think. Thanks for your honesty.
Nice one Wayne. I've seen too many people move to SEA etc thinking they can escape themselves. If you have underlying issues with mental health, addiction etc chances are a change like moving to Thailand will make things worse if you don’t work on treating them. It's definitely important having constructive things to do. The arsh addiction can be a hard one for us single males. 😉 Take it easy.
Well said mate. As someone who has moved around quite a bit, and will be moving to Chiang Mai in Feb, if you are prone to down days where you are now, you will also get them here. Stay away from the drink, exercise, join a club and force yourself to get out and do something new. Sex in Thailand is more of a commodity than an emotional connection, so it’s best to stay away from bars and the nightlife and if you’re lucky you may meet someone, don’t count on it . If you can’t be happy alone, probably best to stay in your home country. Hey, what part of England are you from ? My son lives in Taunton. We will both be in Chiang Mai, early 2024. Love your work.
@@WalkAboutWayne I visited Exeter Cathedral once, it’s a beautiful part of the world . I hope one day we can catch up in Chiang Mai and have a chat, thanks for your awesome vlogs man, your editing skills are getting better everyday and your attitude is top notch. Take it easy
Stay away from bars, why? There's nothing wrong with having a drink at the w end, that's what most people do in their own country, it's all about control.
One of your best vlogs mate. I love your openness and honesty. These things need to be said and very real for me as I will be in Chiang Mai within months.
Coming from a youngish female prospective...if anyone cares to hear 😅...But I have noticed this in my own travels...I'm also solo...But I have noticed it seams older middle aged men sometimes find it harder to make friends...I've spoken to some older men...sometimes staying at hostels...full of ppl..and they will tell me they're finding it hard to connect...Because they're an older male the younger female crowd tends to shy away and the younger men see them as competition...So the younger crowds tends not to be as inviting..However older women are welcomed into groups alot easier...And women just find it easier to connect and make friends..generally speaking...Doesn't mean I or other women don't have down days...However community is extremely important...And if u don't have that...and have something to keep urself and mind busy...it is going get hard...
I totally agree the best ways is to do chunks of the year and even if you went back to the UK it's so bad therevthat it would remind you how good Thailand is and you'd be longing to get back and you'd have a great time when you did get back! Wonderful blog and a great edition thank you so much sir❤
Thanks for touching on this subject as we are all human beings and experience ups and downs . Been spending 5 months a year in Thailand since 2002 but fully retired in 2019 year round outside of Pai with my Thai partner . It’s easier to deal with ( depression , addiction, etc ) when you have a partner but living somewhere is FAR different than vacationing . It’s life , exactly what it is . Again thanks for making this video and couldn’t have posted at a better time as I was having one of those down moments yesterday . Perfect timing . My 89 year old mother has permanently moved over to Chiang Mai since August in the Niman area at Hillside 4 . Although she’s been to Thailand 6 times before she’s finding it very different now living here as you do . But she’s slowly finding a community of friends with like interests , etc . Again Thank you
Thanks for sharing this Jerry, great to hear other stories, thoughts and opinions. I hope you're Mom finds it easier to settle over time. Thanks buddy.
Great vlog mate, well said. You can’t make people understand when they don’t want to - I.e they just see the vacation side and partying - especially if a short break to Thailand helps them escape the UK/home country .. but you can put this info out there which is brilliant and shows you are honest chap 😎 Mental health is such an issue for people trying to scape or run away from things and we increasingly hear stories of foreigners going a little loopy in Asia. Take care mate 😎👍 Amazing vid
Well said Wayne. I travelled Australia solo when i was 20. I didnt know a single person there. For the vast majority it was great but there was dark times where I felt alone and the distance was real. Even with friends or GFs. Take it easy and look after yourself mate 👍
New to your channel & living in Chiang Mai too. I can resonate with a lot of the things you've touched on. I'm from Brum. It would be great to catch up for a beer sometime. Stay lucky my friend.
Fishing, cycling, badminton has helped me. You soon get out of holiday mode and start thinking it more like home. I still enjoy a night out. But you have to reign yourself in otherwise it can easily spiral out of control.
Nice one buddy! Hope life is good for you here, Chiang Mai is a great life, but it can gobble you up. Like you mentioned, keeping busy is key. Hope to see you around buddy.
Structure and way of life totally different to the normal Monday to Friday grind, family the main focus and the standard weekend back home. 100% agree must have a purpose, goals, an aim of some sort of achievement. You are a long time retired and the Expat life , drinking too much and having jealous girl friends constantly on your case for hand outs for their families IN TIME would drag you down and could lead to depression or worse. Returning to that original life back home would not be easy either the older you get, basically unemployable past the age of 50 or so. Certainly not paradise in the long run!! My MAIN ambition in such a situation would be to take my time but make a concerted effort to learn the Thai language if I was there. A plan giving me an achievable goal and a whole new dimension in ability to communicate. Living around a language I cannot understand in that country, in time, would do my head in I think. Good video mate. 🤩
Excellent video mate - very well presented & everyone should watch & listen to it closely - it’s all relevant & true 👌 nice work my friend - take it easy ✔️👋👌😃👍🙏
good video Wayne, hit the nail on the head with it. Also if your a guy you think it's weak to speak out if you are feeling down etc. Remember guys you are never alone and people need you whether you think it or not. Speak to people before it's too late.
You can be depressed anywhere. Keep busy, learn the language, meet the locals, travel around Thailand, find a welcoming church (a great way to meet the locals and you will always be appreciated). Enjoy the sunshine!
@@WalkAboutWayne Thailand is surrounded by temples no different than the west. If you're not into any kind of religion or activity centered around a group but like to social. YOU WILL SUFFER my friend. You gotta like chilling
Living remotely can be ok to start with, but time can catch you up. I did this from 50/60 years old , then I needed to be in a small town . Moved to a small town on the beach , totally different.still quiet but walk to get a coffee, no car needed any more . Life easier...
Wayne , the truth matters , its upon ones self to have self control and realize what is your strengths and weaknesses , so yes i beleive you can live any where in this world with self control . Thanks for this information
I live in Pattaya, started a YT channel to pass the time, at times I feel isolated, main issue is do to the language & at times feel like an outcast.I am looking to explore other asian countries & stay in thailand part time
Wayne, it’like that anywhere. We just visited St. Tropez, Monaco, and the French Riviera, and realized after the honeymoon stage everything fades. Even in Monaco where we were looking at nothing but a concrete jungle, with most people putting on a façade of characters, they don’t fit in naturally.
yeah I've done that one with Thailand and other holiday places. I went there 1st time and really enjoyed it, came back to my country and one of my parents died shortly after. So feeling down in the dumps, I figured I'd go back to Thailand as I'd been really happy there a few months earlier. But I felt like sh1te, fact I'd say I felt worse there as I was away from all my familiar things and distractions I had at home. Also with Thailand for me I found first time to be sort of enchanting, the women! the temples etc... but having some time away from it and then going back I saw it a bit more how it really was. Still enjoyed it but bit more grounded. Anyway, hope you're doing alright mate.
There is nothing like the first time, My first trip I stayed 4 months it was the best time of my life, Been back 8 more times sincere then nothing even comes close to the first trip.
When i lived there i got a good bike and rode all over Chiang Mai, Do si tup mountain, arournd the mountain, the market near the US Embassy, HouTing Ti Lake, etc. it does wonders for your physical and mental health.
Good points, thanks. This is why I'll never liver there full time, just pass 2-3 winter months there is enough for me. I suppose you're walking around Chiang Mai? I hope CM will hub for my next trip.
Cheers buddy! Yes, many reasons why people get down here I think. Everyones different. Coming before retirement isn't a factor for me. I 100% made the right choice to move and travel early.. I see what you're saying though buddy, lot's of people come over for the wrong reasons. Luckily, I don't have to many down days. Yes, this is Kawila park near the river. great park 👍 Cheers mate.
I've watched many pros n cons living in Thailand videos but I think this video with your perspective on the expat loneliness topic is the most real for guys like us!! You're right about no place being perfect to live. I've spent so much time n thinking in creating pros n cons lists on just about every life scenario. Nice or you to include the other girl, beer, language topics too. Thanks for posting this helpful video bro and good luck with your life choices :-)
Hello Wayne loved the vlog I've been here since September 2017 been through the pandemic got fantastic Thai people living all around me I love it here. Went back to the UK last June for 10 days and sitting in the bus station at Heathrow at 8AM freezing cold for a bus back to wales 😢 I thought what the fxxk am I doing here, my town in the UK now is like shit hole every thing boarded up !!SAD very SAD!! glad to get back😢
Mate great video very honest open 100% spot on. Anyone says otherwise are kidding themselves. Thailand is great and better than a lot of western countries but there are a lot of negative aspects as well. Everything you touched on was correct
The BEST advice I learned before traveling, Solve your problems at home, work through them there and don't take them with you. Don't go traveling when you are still dealing with personal issues. I'm only 27 and I didn't start traveling until I was ready mentally, until I could go out and not get lonely being by myself. I spent time going into the mountains and other states by myself. I spent a year doing this and I loved it. Only after that did I start traveling, once I knew I would be okay. Of course, you will have off days. But for me, I can get over that just walking around and sitting somewhere new.
I sort of agree with that, but at the same time, taking off on holiday can be a good thing. My video is more about long term living abroad. Cheers buddy.
In ANY country in the world and during any age you have... You need to keep yourself busy with something productive. In Thailand it's very easy to find connections with expats and/or Thai's if you learn the culture a little bit. If you drink in your home country and are depressed, Thailand will most likely not change that. I'm 39 and i travel between Thailand and Europe (business owner) all the time and i "live" in both country's and yes it keeps me very aware of the fact that i have NOTHING to complain about when i'm in Thailand. Being in Europe 5-6 months per year helps alot with that.
A hard part about moving here can be when you get the realisation that you don't actually belong here but you've been here long enough to realise you also don't belong back home! There are lots of issues you are faced with and you can't solve them all before you come. If you are sure its what you want, just come and find solutions to your problems if and when they come up. Its easy to let your head run on you because you are stuck in a small room every day. I remember getting to that point where Thailand has become normal to me and the excitement of just going down to the market or riding down the street had gotten boring. Waking up in the morning thinking what is there to do today then future living thinking and what about tomorrow and the next day and next week. That all freaked me out. I felt trapped here. What I did was controlled my thinking and lived in the day and got out of the room and done things. I ride motorcycles and made friends that do as well. I exercise, I enjoyed wasting time. I decided that doing nothing was actually doing something ect. I think once you get over all that things get better. For me I decided my budget had to allow for accommodation that I enjoy spend time in, so I didn't go for the cheap room thing to save money, I think its important to spend money on where you live because thats where you need to be happy. I also enjoy having a gym and a swimming pool I can do laps in so I needed that where I lived. I think coming here under funded is a bad idea unless its only short term. You need to spend money to make an enjoyable life anywhere.
yes an interesting point. I've been on the road in asia for 6 weeks and realize I'm kind of spinning my wheels,but going back tot he us doesn't appeal either.
I lived in Pattaya in the early nineties for 2 and a half years and I found myself depressed once and it wasn't for long because I had a lot of good friends but partying all the time can take it's toll especially as it's pay up all the time which can damage self esteem and also lack of doing something constructive in life is a negative thing, thanks Wayne.
Your 100% spot on, and let me give you a bit of context. I’ve just arrived in Bangkok after almost 10 years and I can instantly notice the difference. The locals don’t smile anymore, not even to each other and everyone is just focused on their phone. Maybe this is the same in the UK but the change has appeared more subtle. Im generally a talkative guy and always get a dopamine rush when I travel abroad. Im so grateful that I’m with my Chinese wife because if not traveling around Bangkok alone like I did 20 years ago would have been so lonely. I can speak enough Thai to get around so at least can chat with the locals. My advice is you have to make your own fun. If you move here and end up stuck in your apartment and don’t Learn the language it can turn into hell very quickly.
Yes, Thailand can gobble you up very quickly. Things have changed, the've been through a lot with Covid also. But it's like that all over the world I guess. It's a great life here, just need to stay active and focused. Thanks.
Hi Wayne. Really liked your video. My name is Gary. Im caming to Thailand end of April. Im abit confused about the taxes thing thats going on. Im caming on a retirement visa. Love the place been their before. Cheers Gary
Hi Gary, thanks for liking the video mate. The Tax thing is still confusing for all of us mate. It won't be until 2025, when we know more about it IMO. Thanks.
I made a video about this...But more in the realm of that traveling is Not the Cure...For whatever ur struggling with...However Thailand might give u the mental space to be able to work or ur mental, spiritual, or physical health...Back in the states ur usually to be just trying to pay rent to focus on urself..
Thanks for the thoughts I flying into Krabi from Bohol Phillinpines Dec 4th.. Solo traveling in Thailand for 30 days Kinda wonder how to keep busy. Been in Alona beach PH for past 2 weeks.. relaxing wandering around. Hitting Krabi, Koh Samui then Hua hin .
Good onya man, it’s a tricky subject but hardly ever talked about. Over indulging in sex, drugs and alcohol does make you happy but it’s just a temporary fix. It’s hard to be honest to yourself. “the happiness of your life depends on the quality of your thoughts”
@@WalkAboutWayne my parents are in their 90s now and not in such good health so I go to visit them every 3 months for a 3 weeks.a lot travelling but I look forward to it and I get fed up in Pattaya now after 23 years of bars etc
I almost never felt depressed in my own country. But i wlso don't enjoy life to much. In Thailand i had my best days and my worst days. Had lots of depressing days in Thailand. But also my best days of my life in Thailand
I wasn't sure I wanted to watch this vid. Thumbnail made me think it's gonna be some depressing negative show. Nope, you made it helpful and what traps to watch for. Excellent content. ( tho I was a little disappointed no mowers or trimmers) 😅 One more thing. I know BKK wouldn't be your scene but have you thought of hitting the moto show there sometime?
Thanks man, appreciate it. I would love the Moto show, I love anything like that. I don't know much about it though, is it coming up soon or something?
My own personal struggle is with alienation in the culture. It's never been normal across all of human history to live with another ethnic group and it's harder the more different the groups are. For Europeans to live in Thailand is basically an evolutionary mismatch and so we can struggle to adapt to their way of life and it's never really possible to fit in. It really helps me to travel back home once a year so I can be around people that are more on my level and understand my nature, something that a Thai person could never understand, and visa-versa. The other important thing to living here longterm is to get married and integrated into a family since at least you have that person who is hopefully 100% on your side and even that's not always possible since we're going cross-cultural (mixed race marriages do have a higher rate of divorce). These days I just try to keep realistic and understand the gap between us and when I've had enough, go home and get re-centered.
G'day from Chiang Mai (Doi Saket), Great video man. I think you were spot on with everything you said. I also think that if you suffer from depression in your home country then it probably won't magically go away by coming here......unless of course you have been travelling here for years and years and have been wanting to quit work an retire here but have been umming and ahhhhing for also many years.......then that may have been why you were depressed and finally taking the plunge and doing it may be just the tonic you were after. Biggest worry for expats = MONEY. Working those extra few years may alleviate that problem. Not working those extra few years may be the answer to why you have your woes. It's a bit catch 22 and there's no right answer.....except please don't do it on a dime or think that you will by a bar and make a living! unless you are already an exceptional businessman then likely you will fail and then.....stress and depression....... Make a plan about how you will finance living here. But once the plan is sound and you 99% know you can, work for another year for some "fun" money and then DO IT. Is that the park in front of the Kawilla Barracks? It looks like it maybe. I have driven past there hundreds of times (been here since April 2006 and we had a business on the same road down near the Rimping supermarket for a few years) and always said "I'm going to stop there one day"......looks amazing and I'll definitely have to.....or if it's another place please tell me where :)
Thanks buddy! Yes, I think people have many different reasons for feeling down here. I'm happy i came over before retirement though. Luckily I don't get many down days. Yes mate, this is Kawila park near the river, great park. Thanks
very good video.. it's been something that's been around for a long time amongst some expats all over SE Asia for many yrs, even decades.. have experienced it twice in the past in 2 different countries.. fact is it takes time to make friends in another country and solitude and loneliness can creep in and get ya down, even more so if/when alcohol gets into the mix, either before or because of the loneliness.. it does happen.. nowhere is perfect..
Traveling, exploring, doing it all yourself. It's the best way to make time for your own interests. Especially going to different places alone. Like me, I like to travel alone I have a feeling You can spend any amount of time in any location without worrying.
Great video wayne! I think the key to solo travelling is to be comfortable with your own company. Some people need to be around others all the time to be happy. I think solo travelling is easier for introverts as extroverts may feel isolated if they're unable to connect with the locals due to language barriers etc.
I think the only Thais interested in talking to Westerners are girls who want a sponsor. Short time or long time. You never see Westerners visiting Thai homes only as friends. There is always a sponsorship in the background when you see a Westerner and a Thai together. "No money, no honey," the Thai girls say.
@@WalkAboutWayne 20 DIFFERENT GROUPS of "friends" to have that many it would mean you are part of group of some kind. Thus, BEING ALONE or DEPRESSED is kinda nil at that point. I get it this topic is very divisive. Thus, brings in the engagement. But do know EVERYONES experience with Thailand in regards to their comparison scale in weighing if THAILAND is better then their HOME COUNTRIES will differ. You see in the comments of your channel and others. Some people found THAILAND and for some PEOPLE Thailand found them. I've seen it
Right on Wayne... A healthy life means a head as well as a healthy body. Get a positive routine and stick to it. Exercise, eat well and sleep. Meet new people and keep it balanced. Thanks again. Regardless of age... you've hit the nail on the head. I'm a single guy about 20 years older than you and the same things apply. A happy life is a healthy life. 😎🤙
Great words and thoughts, I've been having Thailand fantasies after watching many RUclips videos about Thailand especially when it comes to getting the best bang for my Social Security bucks. It's good to hear reality, and reality is Yin & Yang ☯no matter where you are at. 😉
I was never really a big drinker but I did get addicted to Thai food and women, and I did feel depressed but that was while I was waiting for my flight back to England at Suvarnabhumi airport.
Worst feeling is waiting in the departure gate on your flight back to Europe. I never felt really depressed in my life and can be alone very easily. But when i'm back in Europe i need to keep my head straight and counting the days when i fly back to my place in Thailand. I live half time in Thailand and half time in Belgium because i have my business in Belgium. Another 5 years i need to work hard and then i will go full time to Thailand. Expats in Thailand like to complain etc because they are living there for a long time .... I always tell them to travel back to their "Home" for a 4 months to reset their minds. Not 1 months but stay 4 months in your home country and alot of their "complaints" about Thailand will disappear very fast.
@@WalkAboutWayne visiting Asia a couple years ago ruined my life 🤣 I like it too much here and once i visited Thailand i really felt home for the First time in my life.
Thanks for the video. I am back. Left last year with a dislocated shoulder. Only lasted 6 weeks last year. It took 10 months to get back - and a new shoulder. I will be here for 7 months and then go back to America for 4 months and then I will cruise back to S.E.Asia. Next year I will try to get a retirement visa. I love to travel, but Thailand will be my base. I love Europe, but the prices of Europe mean only short stays once in a while. Everywhere has the same problems... US. Can't escape that. People always need something to look forward to. Again Great video. Keeping it Real. Tom B.
Hi Tom, I hope the shoulder is better now, and you can get back to traveling. It sounds like you have a great plan, always good to move around, yes. Thanks.
Well said. I am a solo male who moved to Chiang Mai 3 years ago and have met many farang who spend their time and money in the bars and on the Thai girls. This can suck your money away very quickly, and become pretty boring.All that is ok for a short time. I was in a condo on the east side by the super highway, and after one and a half years I rented a small house in a little village east of Chiang Mai. Very happy here. You must have an activity or hobby to keep you busy. Me, I am back riding racing bicycles and improving my physical condition. Every morning I ride, sometimes into the old city to a coffee shop and then maybe find a new place to eat. Sometimes I ride back to my village and eat at one of the small Thai family restaurants. Every other day I do a long ride to the east or north in the beautiful countryside. Add to this an occasional short trip within Thailand and sometimes neighboring countries and it is a great life.
Sounds like you got it covered in Chiang Mai. I got a good routine that I enjoy. Without the routine, it's tough living here with nothing to do. Thanks.
I love living in Thailand, but everyone gets down days, doesn’t matter where you’re. The sooner you get the bars & girls out of your system the better, forget the BS & the money, money, money , better for your wallet, better for your health, better for your mental health. Great topic, it’s very true.
Thank you for your brilliant "waffle". This is what all future expats/pensioners/digital nomads with stars in their eyes need to hear! I think you hit the nail on the head with your "do it in chunks" comment. My personal plan: Firstly, I am male, of retiring age and single. (Souns typical right!!!!) My best option imo is to sell an investment property I have, and to use the money to build a granny flat onto my house. The granny flat will then become my home base. My kids will rent my house from me, at a below market price, and take care of the property. From all angles it's a great deal for them and me. I have the option to retire, or to keep working from whereever I want(read Thailand) I can survive financially, but also I wont burn bridges, or get bogged down. If something happens with my kids, I will make the house my home base again, and rent out the granny flat. (I wont allow strangers to rent my house.) This will put me back where I started. I'd like to hear comments from anyone..
Hi Wayne , 10 out of 10 for your open hearted and open mindedness in relation to the potential pitfalls and issues described by you in this video . Its true that we all have to take our head with us wherever we go and learn to develop a gradual acceptance of the evolvement of life on different levels as we persue our dreams which we all must do IMO. Money unfortunately becomes more important as we get older , without it , as health issues creep in and insurance goes up etc , at the same time when you would like more comfort and care , this could become problematic and lead to mental health issues , so great advice by you i reckon to not put all your eggs in one basket when leaving your own country , have 6 months or a year first, check it all out and see if its for you , go home , weigh it all up , and make an informed decision . Its not too difficult when younger , cos youth and health is on your side and you can start again . Cheers
I haven’t arrived yet, but I’m planning to. I am a single aged female with no ties. Lots of friends and always busy with my hobbies and helping others. I still have the same problems that you blokes have. I will still have them when I come to Thailand. They’re not going to go away just because I relocate, but hopefully I will cope better starting a new life somewhere else. My plan is to mix with other people, expats and locals alike. Having a pet helps, because you’re not completely alone and have something to love.
I think you hit it on the head with drinking Wayne. At 40 I was two years into sobriety. I'm sure with cheap piss & beautiful women the temptation would be too much for many. Good subject mate.
Things you don't have to deal with in Thailand: freezing weather, frequent visible crime, woke political/social nonsense, obesity everywhere, unaffordable housing. But like anywhere, you need good social connections (a couple close friends is usually better than lots of acquaintances), a romantic relationship helps and some hobbies.
Thank you for TELLING THE OTHER SIDE OF what PEOPLE VLOGGERS talk about WHILE LIVING IN THAILAND. I went there FIRST TIME and said FOR AN INTROVERT you're fine.
I have so much pressure in my life now. I am currently here in UAE away from family and partner I feel very sad and like getting crazy. I miss my dog miss the mountains miss the sea everything about our province. These are the reason why I want to cross in Thailand aside from the reason of teaching there. I believe Thailand can be a good place for me.
I think this is a really relevant and important topic, one I have thought about a lot when thinking about retiring to Thailand. I just spent a month there and had an amazing time but I did come away questioning if I could be happy there long term. I am single and not looking 😂 , fairly introverted and I need things to do or I get depressed easily. Without the ability to work or volunteer on a retirement visa I think I would go crazy after awhile. That and the new "possible " taxes that are going to be imposed have given me serious pause. It's still on the table but it's more of a wait and see at the moment.
I love Bangkok but I spend most of my time in Jomtien, boredom? At my age watching grass grow is too much excitement for me, loneliness? I've always been my best company, depression? only when being subjected to other people's stupidity, addictions? being freed from other people's stupidity, but for now I'm on vacation in the Philippines rising hell before I come back and rest up!
I think you are right the best way 7 months Europe and 5 months Thailand Regarding motivation and sex if you get easily sex it might wear off your motivation to live because you don't have the chaos and adventure of the seduction process I was part of the pickup community Real Social dynamics did pick up for 7 years basically every day but never paid for sex Basically what I was doing was approaching girls every day but never paid for sex Like this your days are never boring and you use the sexual energy to transform it in life energy Btw don't drink or smoke
Good honest advice Wayne because this is so true mate. I'm early fifties, house paid off, saved up a few quid, comfortable, lived there before, can read, write Thai quite good when I lived there but have not been practicing so a good candidate for coming back permanent? Not sure. Did two months holiday this year, planned it very well all hotels booked and travel path, saw lots of things, busy sight seeing schedule every day, kept very busy and minimal bar time, first I hate those Asian lagers taste like crap but also bored of the "Bar scene standard talk" with those girls so, yea a bit, and had a few massages but didn't go overboard like I did in my 30's then.. ok I asked what would I do if I lived here? Could not answer that. You cant just have good breakfast/lunch/dinners and a few beers every day, it just wont work. You gotta have a plan so I may go back to teaching even part time, just to keep busy and make connections and good way to pickup the language again. "Chunks" as you said is a good idea as I don't want to give up my home, and free medicare if I need it again, no way in hell I would have serious surgery in Thailand. Hopefully they will give all western nations at least 90 days free walk in visa, would make it so easy as I also love Philippines and Indo, so do some "chunks" during the year, then come home, perhaps work a bit, and enjoy my outdoor groups at home, and do that for a while and see how it works out. How could you commit to a country that will not even commit to you? meaning their onerous visa 90 day reporting, double charge foreigners etc, just says to me you are not really welcome and ok, so you have to seriously take that into consideration when deciding how much time you want to spend there..The RISK of financial failure committing to a corrupt country that is essentially xenophobic is very high, that is a fact that cannot be ignored and as far as finding a decent woman is concerned, practically next to 0 unless you want to spend the rest of your life funding her and her family's problems and don't forget to RENT in all aspects if you want to keep a sane head and healthy bank balance and asset base (At home).
Thank you for the comment, it was a great read. It's good to see other peoples opinions and thoughts. What I would say is, I wouldn't be put off by medical and surgery over here. I thought the same when I first came, but I wouldn't have any trouble getting surgery done in Thailand now. Thanks.
I'm aiming at retiring over there in January. But the boredom is something that does concern me. But hopefully I can make new friends and start a new life .cheers Wayne
The best way to deal with down days is to do something that involves making someone or something feel worthy. Visit an Orphanage or Animal Rescue Centre. Take the focus away from yourself.
You Right, Thailand Not Paradise but is a house at trying Create House save zone with me, you and Everyone. Problems born from self, Thanks you Mr.Wayne, The Batman From Phathit Database 🇹🇭 Thanks you For Love Thailand 🇹🇭 If My Country has problems we will solve problems self become good up.
You can’t escape yourself. Even in paradise. Thanks for speaking your mind Wayne 🙂
Spot on! Thanks Kirsty 🙏
"you ever you go there you are" from Don't Sweet The Small Stuff" book
Well said Kirsty 💯
Agree, a geographic solution to an emotional problem. Perhaps not the answer but might help you find one. Better environment, better mood. Found the general level of apathy and cynicism in the UK soul destroying.
"Wherever you go, there you are." You can leave behind everything but YOU. If you're "cutting all ties" and "making a fresh start" and so on, it's like hoeing a garden: in time, the usual issues, irritations, joys, and grievances will reappear.
Keep aware and tend to your selfcare regularly. It's taken me years to do this, and still have to remind myself frequently.
Thank you for your honesty and insights, Wayne. Cheers!
Great comment mate, very true. Thanks.
You're a good man for having raised depression Wayne. It's all too real as you say. I'm really enjoying going through your thoughtful and polite videos videos. Take care mate
Thanks Gary, it’s definitely real in Thailand mate. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows here long term. Thanks for the kind words mate 👍
@@WalkAboutWayne will retire in the kingdom in 12 weeks time Wayne, love to shout you a coffee one day. Regards till then and thank you for the work you do
You nailed this 100%. I've been in Thailand 2 years and even though I don't drink nor smoke nor being a party person, I understand every single word you said. I work online, but I have to find extra activities and normal friends to fill my time and not fall in temptation. Send hugs to Chiang Mai mate!
Nice one buddy! Thanks.
il be your normal frend i live in fl
#nailedit
Everything you said, every word is true. Especially about living in chunks of time, and keeping things fresh helps a lot. Finding a hobby or sport too keeps you going. I was heavy into theater and art classes and photography when I lived in Chiang Mai which kept my mental health steady. Thailand is inexpensive enough that you can easily hop on a train or a plane and check things out. This won't solve your problems but it can keep your mind fresh.
Keep posting things like this, Wayne. Folks gotta know and you need to tell them. Take it easy, man!🙂
Where are the theatres? I didn't see any
Nice one Beverly, and thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🙏
@@Mark-England Tons of movie theaters (of course) at every single mall. Maya, Central, etc. Less expensive than in America and fantastic comfortable places to watch your favorite new releases. Live English-speaking theater, via The Gate Theater (Stephan Turner) which performs various live productions from time to time, and there are other English-speaking groups as well. If you are into Jazz, then the NorthGate Jazz Co-op is a fun venue.
I was depressed in SEA. And got depressed at home. Finally grasped the truth..."Wherever you go, there you are". So hope to go a few months at a time, like you said. Thanks.
It's a very wise quote 'wherever you go, there you are' 👍
I love that saying! 👍. Thanks
if you have problems back home The same problems happen here
You have the chance to sort out your life
This is so true, Wayne. Wherever you go, you take your problems with you.
No place in the world is paradise. Even your own home country.
Life is life. You have to make your own fun and try to be positive wherever you go.
People suffer from an array of different mental issues, and no place is an easy fix.
We agree with you 100%
Thanks guys! Hope all is well 🙏
Thanks for asking Wayne. We are loving here so far. As you said, many stay in holiday mode when they move here. We did that for 3 months and still have the occasional tourist day.
Life is good here in Chiang Mai.
What I love about your channel is how honest you are. And you really care about what you do, hence rerecording this vlog. Good job man!
Thank you man! Much appreciated 🙏
Wayne, so grateful for this one, mate. I'm one of those dudes right on the fence about the move to Thailand. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking, "What the f#@% am I thinking giving everything up and moving to Thailand." Next morning, with coffee, I think, "Of course Thailand makes sense on so many levels." I am the classic overthinking westerner and that can also impact mental health. Respect to you Wayne for living life on your own terms and your willingness to keep it real and honest.
Thanks for sharing this. This comments reflects me and so many other people I think. I was the same as you, at home, over thinking everything. One day I was going to Thailand, the next day I was saving more and putting it off. I hope you can come to the decision that's right for you. Thanks buddy.
I'm same and can't quite figure it out, one minute I'm going over there and next I'm not
Damn !!!! I thought I was the only one 😂 @@hellofromdave
Wayne, I know all about depression, I have been a West Brom fan all my life! 😂 On the serious side, good vlog..
🤣 That's gotta hurt being a West Brom fan, especially seeing Villa doing well also. Thank you buddy.
I'm glad you talked about this, Wayne. You know how I struggled with loneliness and I was only there 6 weeks! I planned to retire early and live in Chiang Mai for a couple of years until I could start getting my retirement income in the US, but I was too lonely so I'm working hard for a few more years and then I'll retire. It's different for women; we aren't going to Thailand looking for a partner, whereas I think most men are. I probably won't go back unless I bring a friend.
Awww. yes I know you really struggled. It can be really difficult and you sure did experience that. I hope you can come back one day, with a fried maybe. 🙏
I retired early-age 55, I spend my time volunteering in different countries and budget travelling interspersed with trips home. I’m a solo traveller. alone, yes but lonely rarely. I’m home now due to health and family reasons but I’ll be back on the road as soon as I can.
I lived in Chiang Mai for nearly a year in 2019. I am a widow and not looking for a partner either. I went back to the US to earn money and await Social Security Survivor's Benefits. I'll be returning to Thailand in a few years. I highly recommend getting involved in a hobby or interest. I was heavy into local theater, acted in my first play while there. Very fun and I made a ton of friends, many of whom are still living there. Let me know if you decide to go back to Thailand.
In recent times I had some very close people to me tried and succeeded in crushing me financially and emotionally. They were successful and as a result I developed PTSD. Everything I valued was taken from me. Long story short: in two months time I am heading to both Thailand and the Philippines to scope out a place to live. The new locations will be a novelty and a distraction for a few weeks. I know I have to go there with a plan of living a normal and healthy life....and grief and depression will still pay me visits. No woman or place or car or addiction will fill a gap in your soul/ heart. One can not chase happiness, at best we can work towards gratitude. Thank you for covering such an important issue.
Thanks you for sharing this Wayne. It's helpful to people to hear. I hope everything works out for you in Thailand and The Philippines. Good luck buddy!
Thanks for being real, I lived in Ruamchok area for 18 months on a Non-O visa, totally isolated, no friends, don’t speak Thai, don’t drink, spent most days at home. Had a GF, but was supporting her, 1 year house lease, I was locked in. I let my visa run out, back in the sates since September. Next trip will be in June, but will not get locked into a girl or a location, I think you advice of moving around and keeping the mind fresh is good advice. Always enjoy your channel and your honesty, thanks Wayne.
Thanks for sharing this, I can totally understand and many others will also. I think moving around, or having trips every so often, helps. Thanks for liking the channel .
I plan on retiring in Thailand soon. I was in Thailand before. I can understand your video 100 percent. Keep moving around is the key I think. Thanks for your honesty.
Nice one Wayne.
I've seen too many people move to SEA etc thinking they can escape themselves. If you have underlying issues with mental health, addiction etc chances are a change like moving to Thailand will make things worse if you don’t work on treating them.
It's definitely important having constructive things to do.
The arsh addiction can be a hard one for us single males. 😉
Take it easy.
Spot on Jefe mate! Even that Arsh fetish can be a bummer to get rid of 🤣
Well said 👍
Well said mate.
As someone who has moved around quite a bit, and will be moving to Chiang Mai in Feb, if you are prone to down days where you are now, you will also get them here.
Stay away from the drink, exercise, join a club and force yourself to get out and do something new.
Sex in Thailand is more of a commodity than an emotional connection, so it’s best to stay away from bars and the nightlife and if you’re lucky you may meet someone, don’t count on it .
If you can’t be happy alone, probably best to stay in your home country.
Hey, what part of England are you from ? My son lives in Taunton. We will both be in Chiang Mai, early 2024.
Love your work.
Great comment buddy! I'm from the Exeter area, not to far from Taunton. Thanks.
@@WalkAboutWayne I visited Exeter Cathedral once, it’s a beautiful part of the world .
I hope one day we can catch up in Chiang Mai and have a chat, thanks for your awesome vlogs man, your editing skills are getting better everyday and your attitude is top notch.
Take it easy
Stay away from bars, why? There's nothing wrong with having a drink at the w end, that's what most people do in their own country, it's all about control.
@@stevejohnson2130 moderation is what I meant.
The night life is great but it can be addictive if you don’t have self control.
Cheers 🍻
Both of you make good points !!@@Openeyesopenheart42
One of your best vlogs mate. I love your openness and honesty. These things need to be said and very real for me as I will be in Chiang Mai within months.
Thank you buddy 👍
Coming from a youngish female prospective...if anyone cares to hear 😅...But I have noticed this in my own travels...I'm also solo...But I have noticed it seams older middle aged men sometimes find it harder to make friends...I've spoken to some older men...sometimes staying at hostels...full of ppl..and they will tell me they're finding it hard to connect...Because they're an older male the younger female crowd tends to shy away and the younger men see them as competition...So the younger crowds tends not to be as inviting..However older women are welcomed into groups alot easier...And women just find it easier to connect and make friends..generally speaking...Doesn't mean I or other women don't have down days...However community is extremely important...And if u don't have that...and have something to keep urself and mind busy...it is going get hard...
Interesting, thanks for sharing 👍
I totally agree the best ways is to do chunks of the year and even if you went back to the UK it's so bad therevthat it would remind you how good Thailand is and you'd be longing to get back and you'd have a great time when you did get back! Wonderful blog and a great edition thank you so much sir❤
That's right, sometimes you need that reality check of going back home. Then you realise what a great life Thailand is. Thank you.
Thanks for touching on this subject as we are all human beings and experience ups and downs . Been spending 5 months a year in Thailand since 2002 but fully retired in 2019 year round outside of Pai with my Thai partner . It’s easier to deal with ( depression , addiction, etc ) when you have a partner but living somewhere is FAR different than vacationing . It’s life , exactly what it is . Again thanks for making this video and couldn’t have posted at a better time as I was having one of those down moments yesterday . Perfect timing . My 89 year old mother has permanently moved over to Chiang Mai since August in the Niman area at Hillside 4 . Although she’s been to Thailand 6 times before she’s finding it very different now living here as you do . But she’s slowly finding a community of friends with like interests , etc . Again Thank you
Thanks for sharing this Jerry, great to hear other stories, thoughts and opinions. I hope you're Mom finds it easier to settle over time. Thanks buddy.
Thank you !!@@WalkAboutWayne
Great vlog mate, well said. You can’t make people understand when they don’t want to - I.e they just see the vacation side and partying - especially if a short break to Thailand helps them escape the UK/home country .. but you can put this info out there which is brilliant and shows you are honest chap 😎 Mental health is such an issue for people trying to scape or run away from things and we increasingly hear stories of foreigners going a little loopy in Asia. Take care mate 😎👍 Amazing vid
Yes mate, people don't really feel this on Holiday. It's real out here for solo longtermers. Thanks buddy.
Thanks, Wayne. Mental health affects everyone and location doesn't matter.
So true mate. Thanks.
Well said Wayne. I travelled Australia solo when i was 20. I didnt know a single person there. For the vast majority it was great but there was dark times where I felt alone and the distance was real. Even with friends or GFs. Take it easy and look after yourself mate 👍
Nice one buddy! Thanks for sharing 👍
Well said. I live here now and agree with everything you mentioned.
Thank you buddy!
I follow many great RUclipsrs, but none of them delivers truth and realness like this man.
Arrrgh thanks man, I'm sure lot's of other vloggers, say it how it is also. But thanks.
New to your channel & living in Chiang Mai too. I can resonate with a lot of the things you've touched on. I'm from Brum. It would be great to catch up for a beer sometime. Stay lucky my friend.
Fishing, cycling, badminton has helped me. You soon get out of holiday mode and start thinking it more like home. I still enjoy a night out. But you have to reign yourself in otherwise it can easily spiral out of control.
Nice one buddy! Hope life is good for you here, Chiang Mai is a great life, but it can gobble you up. Like you mentioned, keeping busy is key. Hope to see you around buddy.
Structure and way of life totally different to the normal Monday to Friday grind, family the main focus and the standard weekend back home. 100% agree must have a purpose, goals, an aim of some sort of achievement. You are a long time retired and the Expat life , drinking too much and having jealous girl friends constantly on your case for hand outs for their families IN TIME would drag you down and could lead to depression or worse. Returning to that original life back home would not be easy either the older you get, basically unemployable past the age of 50 or so. Certainly not paradise in the long run!! My MAIN ambition in such a situation would be to take my time but make a concerted effort to learn the Thai language if I was there. A plan giving me an achievable goal and a whole new dimension in ability to communicate. Living around a language I cannot understand in that country, in time, would do my head in I think. Good video mate. 🤩
Niceone Steven, well said mate. Thanks for sharing buddy.
Excellent video mate - very well presented & everyone should watch & listen to it closely - it’s all relevant & true 👌 nice work my friend - take it easy ✔️👋👌😃👍🙏
Nice one Ant. Take it easy man.
good video Wayne, hit the nail on the head with it. Also if your a guy you think it's weak to speak out if you are feeling down etc. Remember guys you are never alone and people need you whether you think it or not. Speak to people before it's too late.
Good advice mate 👍
Good day, Wayne.
Keep yr mind fresh and sharp as always.
Thank you, I will
You can be depressed anywhere. Keep busy, learn the language, meet the locals, travel around Thailand, find a welcoming church (a great way to meet the locals and you will always be appreciated). Enjoy the sunshine!
Exactly 👌 Not sure about the church though 🤣
@@WalkAboutWayne Thailand is surrounded by temples no different than the west. If you're not into any kind of religion or activity centered around a group but like to social. YOU WILL SUFFER my friend. You gotta like chilling
@@KangTheDigitalNomadGlobeTreker 🤣🤣 I go temple every day buddy
What is it with these deluded religious fools 😂
Living remotely can be ok to start with, but time can catch you up. I did this from 50/60 years old , then I needed to be in a small town . Moved to a small town on the beach , totally different.still quiet but walk to get a coffee, no car needed any more . Life easier...
Very true, it's not easy.
Good one man
I spent a 5 days in chang mai a month ago...walked all over...was hoping to see you on a walk.
Cheers mate
Nice, hope you had a good time in Chiang Mai. Hope to see you around next time.
Wayne , the truth matters , its upon ones self to have self control and realize what is your strengths and weaknesses , so yes i beleive you can live any where in this world with self control . Thanks for this information
Well said!
Thanks for having the courage to share this. I suspected this was a challenge for alot of people. I subscribed to your channel, good content
Thank you!
I live in Pattaya, started a YT channel to pass the time, at times I feel isolated, main issue is do to the language & at times feel like an outcast.I am looking to explore other asian countries & stay in thailand part time
Thanks for sharing that buddy. It's not always easy. Sounds like you got a great plan. Keep up the RUclips 🙏
Thai people are extremely insular. It's a hard nut to crack even with language skills.
Great vlog Wayne. A lot of truths there mate 👍
Thanks buddy!
Wayne, it’like that anywhere. We just visited St. Tropez, Monaco, and the French Riviera, and realized after the honeymoon stage everything fades. Even in Monaco where we were looking at nothing but a concrete jungle, with most people putting on a façade of characters, they don’t fit in naturally.
Facts I have alot of fancy toys....guess what you still don't fit in....some of those people don't associate with anyone
Yep, nowhere is paradise when living somewhere.
great video wayne, thank you mate
Thanks buddy!
yeah I've done that one with Thailand and other holiday places. I went there 1st time and really enjoyed it, came back to my country and one of my parents died shortly after. So feeling down in the dumps, I figured I'd go back to Thailand as I'd been really happy there a few months earlier. But I felt like sh1te, fact I'd say I felt worse there as I was away from all my familiar things and distractions I had at home. Also with Thailand for me I found first time to be sort of enchanting, the women! the temples etc... but having some time away from it and then going back I saw it a bit more how it really was. Still enjoyed it but bit more grounded. Anyway, hope you're doing alright mate.
Great comment buddy, thanks for sharing this. It's great to here what others think. I'm all good, thanks man .
There is nothing like the first time, My first trip I stayed 4 months it was the best time of my life, Been back 8 more times sincere then nothing even comes close to the first trip.
I appreciate the realness.
Thanks buddy 👌
Raw and real content mate, love ya work!
Thanks Wayne 🙏
When i lived there i got a good bike and rode all over Chiang Mai, Do si tup mountain, arournd the mountain, the market near the US Embassy, HouTing Ti Lake, etc. it does wonders for your physical and mental health.
I think I done all them places in the first day of having a bike. I tend to go a bit further these days. 👍
Good points, thanks. This is why I'll never liver there full time, just pass 2-3 winter months there is enough for me. I suppose you're walking around Chiang Mai? I hope CM will hub for my next trip.
Cheers buddy! Yes, many reasons why people get down here I think. Everyones different. Coming before retirement isn't a factor for me. I 100% made the right choice to move and travel early.. I see what you're saying though buddy, lot's of people come over for the wrong reasons. Luckily, I don't have to many down days.
Yes, this is Kawila park near the river. great park 👍
Cheers mate.
I've watched many pros n cons living in Thailand videos but I think this video with your perspective on the expat loneliness topic is the most real for guys like us!! You're right about no place being perfect to live. I've spent so much time n thinking in creating pros n cons lists on just about every life scenario. Nice or you to include the other girl, beer, language topics too. Thanks for posting this helpful video bro and good luck with your life choices :-)
Thank you buddy, much appreciated!
Hello Wayne loved the vlog I've been here since September 2017 been through the pandemic got fantastic Thai people living all around me I love it here. Went back to the UK last June for 10 days and sitting in the bus station at Heathrow at 8AM freezing cold for a bus back to wales 😢 I thought what the fxxk am I doing here, my town in the UK now is like shit hole every thing boarded up !!SAD very SAD!! glad to get back😢
I use to have nightmares about arriving back in Heathrow, just the thought of it makes me feel down 🤣
Great info. Thanks
Thank you.
Mate great video very honest open 100% spot on. Anyone says otherwise are kidding themselves. Thailand is great and better than a lot of western countries but there are a lot of negative aspects as well. Everything you touched on was correct
Thank you mate! That's right, Thailand is far from perfect. It's a great place but not paradise.
thanks for that...
No worries 🙏
Think you covered everything mate ✅
Thank you mate.
Absolutely spot on.
Same applies in Australia.
Nice one! Yes mate, problems follow everywhere.
@@WalkAboutWayne Visiting Pattaya May...can you recommend a legit/ pro massage for after sports fatigue?
I struggled a wee bit at first. But I got busy, helped massively 👌
Yes, keeping busy is key.
The BEST advice I learned before traveling,
Solve your problems at home, work through them there and don't take them with you. Don't go traveling when you are still dealing with personal issues.
I'm only 27 and I didn't start traveling until I was ready mentally, until I could go out and not get lonely being by myself. I spent time going into the mountains and other states by myself. I spent a year doing this and I loved it. Only after that did I start traveling, once I knew I would be okay. Of course, you will have off days. But for me, I can get over that just walking around and sitting somewhere new.
I sort of agree with that, but at the same time, taking off on holiday can be a good thing. My video is more about long term living abroad. Cheers buddy.
In ANY country in the world and during any age you have... You need to keep yourself busy with something productive. In Thailand it's very easy to find connections with expats and/or Thai's if you learn the culture a little bit.
If you drink in your home country and are depressed, Thailand will most likely not change that.
I'm 39 and i travel between Thailand and Europe (business owner) all the time and i "live" in both country's and yes it keeps me very aware of the fact that i have NOTHING to complain about when i'm in Thailand. Being in Europe 5-6 months per year helps alot with that.
Thanks for sharing Sven 👍
A hard part about moving here can be when you get the realisation that you don't actually belong here but you've been here long enough to realise you also don't belong back home! There are lots of issues you are faced with and you can't solve them all before you come. If you are sure its what you want, just come and find solutions to your problems if and when they come up.
Its easy to let your head run on you because you are stuck in a small room every day. I remember getting to that point where Thailand has become normal to me and the excitement of just going down to the market or riding down the street had gotten boring. Waking up in the morning thinking what is there to do today then future living thinking and what about tomorrow and the next day and next week. That all freaked me out. I felt trapped here.
What I did was controlled my thinking and lived in the day and got out of the room and done things. I ride motorcycles and made friends that do as well. I exercise, I enjoyed wasting time. I decided that doing nothing was actually doing something ect. I think once you get over all that things get better.
For me I decided my budget had to allow for accommodation that I enjoy spend time in, so I didn't go for the cheap room thing to save money, I think its important to spend money on where you live because thats where you need to be happy. I also enjoy having a gym and a swimming pool I can do laps in so I needed that where I lived.
I think coming here under funded is a bad idea unless its only short term. You need to spend money to make an enjoyable life anywhere.
yes an interesting point. I've been on the road in asia for 6 weeks and realize I'm kind of spinning my wheels,but going back tot he us doesn't appeal either.
That's right buddy, 100%
Thanks for the video 🙂
Thanks buddy.
I lived in Pattaya in the early nineties for 2 and a half years and I found myself depressed once and it wasn't for long because I had a lot of good friends but partying all the time can take it's toll especially as it's pay up all the time which can damage self esteem and also lack of doing something constructive in life is a negative thing, thanks Wayne.
Thanks for sharing Mick, I agree 100%, that would drag me down after time. Thanks Buddy.
This is why suicide rates are so high in Pattaya
Your 100% spot on, and let me give you a bit of context. I’ve just arrived in Bangkok after almost 10 years and I can instantly notice the difference. The locals don’t smile anymore, not even to each other and everyone is just focused on their phone. Maybe this is the same in the UK but the change has appeared more subtle. Im generally a talkative guy and always get a dopamine rush when I travel abroad. Im so grateful that I’m with my Chinese wife because if not traveling around Bangkok alone like I did 20 years ago would have been so lonely. I can speak enough Thai to get around so at least can chat with the locals. My advice is you have to make your own fun. If you move here and end up stuck in your apartment and don’t Learn the language it can turn into hell very quickly.
Yes, Thailand can gobble you up very quickly. Things have changed, the've been through a lot with Covid also. But it's like that all over the world I guess. It's a great life here, just need to stay active and focused. Thanks.
Hi Wayne. Really liked your video. My name is Gary. Im caming to Thailand end of April. Im abit confused about the taxes thing thats going on. Im caming on a retirement visa. Love the place been their before. Cheers Gary
Hi Gary, thanks for liking the video mate. The Tax thing is still confusing for all of us mate. It won't be until 2025, when we know more about it IMO. Thanks.
Some very important reminders here, Wayne. Cheers mate
Nice one Lars, mate 👍
I made a video about this...But more in the realm of that traveling is Not the Cure...For whatever ur struggling with...However Thailand might give u the mental space to be able to work or ur mental, spiritual, or physical health...Back in the states ur usually to be just trying to pay rent to focus on urself..
Yes, 100%
Ripper video Wanye. Definitely a relevant video that all us expats relate to 👍
Nice one Ricky buddy 👍
Thanks for the thoughts
I flying into Krabi from Bohol Phillinpines Dec 4th.. Solo traveling in Thailand for 30 days Kinda wonder how to keep busy. Been in Alona beach PH for past 2 weeks.. relaxing wandering around. Hitting Krabi, Koh Samui then Hua hin
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Sounds like you'll be fine buddy, moving around to a few places. I hope you have a great time.
Good onya man, it’s a tricky subject but hardly ever talked about. Over indulging in sex, drugs and alcohol does make you happy but it’s just a temporary fix. It’s hard to be honest to yourself. “the happiness of your life depends on the quality of your thoughts”
Thank you buddy!
I've lived here 23 years but always travelled back to UK periodically to have a break and always feel better when I returned
Yes, I 100% agree with this. I think I'm at the stage where I might need this wake up call soon.
@@WalkAboutWayne my parents are in their 90s now and not in such good health so I go to visit them every 3 months for a 3 weeks.a lot travelling but I look forward to it and I get fed up in Pattaya now after 23 years of bars etc
Great post man! Honest. See ya soon!
Thank you buddy.
I almost never felt depressed in my own country.
But i wlso don't enjoy life to much.
In Thailand i had my best days and my worst days.
Had lots of depressing days in Thailand.
But also my best days of my life in Thailand
Thanks for sharing. Yes, Thailand can be a very lonely place, but as you mentioned, it can be the happiest place in the world also.
I wasn't sure I wanted to watch this vid. Thumbnail made me think it's gonna be some depressing negative show.
Nope, you made it helpful and what traps to watch for. Excellent content.
( tho I was a little disappointed no mowers or trimmers) 😅
One more thing. I know BKK wouldn't be your scene but have you thought of hitting the moto show there sometime?
Thanks man, appreciate it. I would love the Moto show, I love anything like that. I don't know much about it though, is it coming up soon or something?
@@WalkAboutWayne There's one now through the 11th. Think there's also one in March.
Thanks for keeping it real, mate. Take care and I'll catch you for a cheeky frothy🍻, I mean, green tea, 🍵 over Christmas/New Year!
Thank you mate, hope to see you around Chiang Mai.
My own personal struggle is with alienation in the culture. It's never been normal across all of human history to live with another ethnic group and it's harder the more different the groups are. For Europeans to live in Thailand is basically an evolutionary mismatch and so we can struggle to adapt to their way of life and it's never really possible to fit in. It really helps me to travel back home once a year so I can be around people that are more on my level and understand my nature, something that a Thai person could never understand, and visa-versa. The other important thing to living here longterm is to get married and integrated into a family since at least you have that person who is hopefully 100% on your side and even that's not always possible since we're going cross-cultural (mixed race marriages do have a higher rate of divorce). These days I just try to keep realistic and understand the gap between us and when I've had enough, go home and get re-centered.
Well said. 👍
@HairyPixels I heard you say NOTHING ABOUT LEARNING THE LANGUAGE. Good luck you don't get it.
How can you hear him say nothing 😅
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Not important at all to get married, just makes it more complicated if it goes pear shaped. Do you live in Thailand?
Excellent, spoken the "reality"
Thanks 👍
G'day from Chiang Mai (Doi Saket),
Great video man. I think you were spot on with everything you said.
I also think that if you suffer from depression in your home country then it probably won't magically go away by coming here......unless of course you have been travelling here for years and years and have been wanting to quit work an retire here but have been umming and ahhhhing for also many years.......then that may have been why you were depressed and finally taking the plunge and doing it may be just the tonic you were after.
Biggest worry for expats = MONEY.
Working those extra few years may alleviate that problem. Not working those extra few years may be the answer to why you have your woes.
It's a bit catch 22 and there's no right answer.....except please don't do it on a dime or think that you will by a bar and make a living! unless you are already an exceptional businessman then likely you will fail and then.....stress and depression.......
Make a plan about how you will finance living here.
But once the plan is sound and you 99% know you can, work for another year for some "fun" money and then DO IT.
Is that the park in front of the Kawilla Barracks? It looks like it maybe. I have driven past there hundreds of times (been here since April 2006 and we had a business on the same road down near the Rimping supermarket for a few years) and always said "I'm going to stop there one day"......looks amazing and I'll definitely have to.....or if it's another place please tell me where :)
Thanks buddy! Yes, I think people have many different reasons for feeling down here. I'm happy i came over before retirement though. Luckily I don't get many down days.
Yes mate, this is Kawila park near the river, great park.
Thanks
very good video.. it's been something that's been around for a long time amongst some expats all over SE Asia for many yrs, even decades.. have experienced it twice in the past in 2 different countries.. fact is it takes time to make friends in another country and solitude and loneliness can creep in and get ya down, even more so if/when alcohol gets into the mix, either before or because of the loneliness.. it does happen.. nowhere is perfect..
Very true 👍
Traveling, exploring, doing it all yourself. It's the best way to make time for your own interests.
Especially going to different places alone. Like me, I like to travel alone
I have a feeling You can spend any amount of time in any location without worrying.
I prefer going alone also. Nice one 👍
Great vlog. You nailed it mate!❤
Thanks mate 👌
Great video wayne! I think the key to solo travelling is to be comfortable with your own company. Some people need to be around others all the time to be happy. I think solo travelling is easier for introverts as extroverts may feel isolated if they're unable to connect with the locals due to language barriers etc.
I think the only Thais interested in talking to Westerners are girls who want a sponsor. Short time or long time. You never see Westerners visiting Thai homes only as friends. There is always a sponsorship in the background when you see a Westerner and a Thai together.
"No money, no honey," the Thai girls say.
Perfectly said. You gotta be an introvert for SOLO TRAVEL all this having 20 groups of friends isn't even possible in the U.S.
Nice one Roland 👍
Who told you that Kang 🤣
@@WalkAboutWayne 20 DIFFERENT GROUPS of "friends" to have that many it would mean you are part of group of some kind. Thus, BEING ALONE or DEPRESSED is kinda nil at that point. I get it this topic is very divisive. Thus, brings in the engagement. But do know EVERYONES experience with Thailand in regards to their comparison scale in weighing if THAILAND is better then their HOME COUNTRIES will differ. You see in the comments of your channel and others. Some people found THAILAND and for some PEOPLE Thailand found them. I've seen it
Right on Wayne...
A healthy life means a head as well as a healthy body.
Get a positive routine and stick to it. Exercise, eat well and sleep. Meet new people and keep it balanced.
Thanks again. Regardless of age... you've hit the nail on the head. I'm a single guy about 20 years older than you and the same things apply.
A happy life is a healthy life.
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Well said, buddy!
Great words and thoughts, I've been having Thailand fantasies after watching many RUclips videos about Thailand especially when it comes to getting the best bang for my Social Security bucks. It's good to hear reality, and reality is Yin & Yang ☯no matter where you are at. 😉
Thanks! Thailand is still a great option for cheap living 👍
I was never really a big drinker but I did get addicted to Thai food and women, and I did feel depressed but that was while I was waiting for my flight back to England at Suvarnabhumi airport.
Worst feeling is waiting in the departure gate on your flight back to Europe. I never felt really depressed in my life and can be alone very easily. But when i'm back in Europe i need to keep my head straight and counting the days when i fly back to my place in Thailand. I live half time in Thailand and half time in Belgium because i have my business in Belgium. Another 5 years i need to work hard and then i will go full time to Thailand. Expats in Thailand like to complain etc because they are living there for a long time .... I always tell them to travel back to their "Home" for a 4 months to reset their minds. Not 1 months but stay 4 months in your home country and alot of their "complaints" about Thailand will disappear very fast.
Nothing worse than that flight home, it's like the world has ended. I was close to tears a few times.
@@WalkAboutWayne visiting Asia a couple years ago ruined my life 🤣
I like it too much here and once i visited Thailand i really felt home for the First time in my life.
Thanks for the video. I am back. Left last year with a dislocated shoulder. Only lasted 6 weeks last year. It took 10 months to get back - and a new shoulder. I will be here for 7 months and then go back to America for 4 months and then I will cruise back to S.E.Asia. Next year I will try to get a retirement visa.
I love to travel, but Thailand will be my base. I love Europe, but the prices of Europe mean only short stays once in a while. Everywhere has the same problems... US. Can't escape that. People always need something to look forward to.
Again Great video. Keeping it Real.
Tom B.
Hi Tom, I hope the shoulder is better now, and you can get back to traveling. It sounds like you have a great plan, always good to move around, yes. Thanks.
Well said. I am a solo male who moved to Chiang Mai 3 years ago and have met many farang who spend their time and money in the bars and on the Thai girls. This can suck your money away very quickly, and become pretty boring.All that is ok for a short time. I was in a condo on the east side by the super highway, and after one and a half years I rented a small house in a little village east of Chiang Mai. Very happy here.
You must have an activity or hobby to keep you busy. Me, I am back riding racing bicycles and improving my physical condition. Every morning I ride, sometimes into the old city to a coffee shop and then maybe find a new place to eat. Sometimes I ride back to my village and eat at one of the small Thai family restaurants. Every other day I do a long ride to the east or north in the beautiful countryside.
Add to this an occasional short trip within Thailand and sometimes neighboring countries and it is a great life.
Sounds like you got it covered in Chiang Mai. I got a good routine that I enjoy. Without the routine, it's tough living here with nothing to do. Thanks.
Nicely put mate, 100% real talk
Cheers Drew buddy.
I love living in Thailand, but everyone gets down days, doesn’t matter where you’re. The sooner you get the bars & girls out of your system the better, forget the BS & the money, money, money , better for your wallet, better for your health, better for your mental health. Great topic, it’s very true.
100%. Thanks 👍
Totally agree ..
Nice one mate 👍
Thank you for your brilliant "waffle".
This is what all future expats/pensioners/digital nomads with stars in their eyes need to hear!
I think you hit the nail on the head with your "do it in chunks" comment.
My personal plan:
Firstly, I am male, of retiring age and single. (Souns typical right!!!!)
My best option imo is to sell an investment property I have, and to use the money to build a granny flat onto my house. The granny flat will then become my home base. My kids will rent my house from me, at a below market price, and take care of the property. From all angles it's a great deal for them and me.
I have the option to retire, or to keep working from whereever I want(read Thailand)
I can survive financially, but also I wont burn bridges, or get bogged down.
If something happens with my kids, I will make the house my home base again, and rent out the granny flat. (I wont allow strangers to rent my house.)
This will put me back where I started.
I'd like to hear comments from anyone..
Oh.. and lastly. I will come look you up in Chiang Mai , and take you out for a couple of beers if you like!
Thanks! Sounds like you have a great plan. I hope it all works out for you buddy. Hope to see you around Chiang Mai.
I'd say it's more like a stream of consciousness ...
Hi Wayne , 10 out of 10 for your open hearted and open mindedness in relation to the potential pitfalls and issues described by you in this video . Its true that we all have to take our head with us wherever we go and learn to develop a gradual acceptance of the evolvement of life on different levels as we persue our dreams which we all must do IMO. Money unfortunately becomes more important as we get older , without it , as health issues creep in and insurance goes up etc , at the same time when you would like more comfort and care , this could become problematic and lead to mental health issues , so great advice by you i reckon to not put all your eggs in one basket when leaving your own country , have 6 months or a year first, check it all out and see if its for you , go home , weigh it all up , and make an informed decision . Its not too difficult when younger , cos youth and health is on your side and you can start again . Cheers
Great comment mate, thanks for sharing. That stress of getting older sure can play a factor. Health and money . Great comment , thanks mate 👍
I haven’t arrived yet, but I’m planning to. I am a single aged female with no ties. Lots of friends and always busy with my hobbies and helping others. I still have the same problems that you blokes have. I will still have them when I come to Thailand. They’re not going to go away just because I relocate, but hopefully I will cope better starting a new life somewhere else. My plan is to mix with other people, expats and locals alike.
Having a pet helps, because you’re not completely alone and have something to love.
It sounds like you will be fine Lynn, and great to read this comment. Having a pet is a great option. Thanks for sharing.
I think you hit it on the head with drinking Wayne. At 40 I was two years into sobriety. I'm sure with cheap piss & beautiful women the temptation would be too much for many. Good subject mate.
Thanks mate! Yep, that temptation is enough to make many a man buckle. Beer and Women is a man's weak spot, for sure.
Great vlog mate.... Good info.
Hope your well, I'm always on the end of Messenger if needed ❤
...and 38 days we will be there, see you soon bro
See you soon guys!! Thanks buddy.
Things you don't have to deal with in Thailand: freezing weather, frequent visible crime, woke political/social nonsense, obesity everywhere, unaffordable housing. But like anywhere, you need good social connections (a couple close friends is usually better than lots of acquaintances), a romantic relationship helps and some hobbies.
Thank you for TELLING THE OTHER SIDE OF what PEOPLE VLOGGERS talk about WHILE LIVING IN THAILAND. I went there FIRST TIME and said FOR AN INTROVERT you're fine.
Well said
There are so many pros
I’ll take Thailand over the madness of the west
And of course, always work on myself
To be happy
One thing to keep in mind if you are a Brit thinking of retiring in Thailand, you will not receive your annual state pension increase..
@user-kf7wm6kt6o only need to keep an address in the UK.
can you return home to receive the increase? then leave again....any time limits of staying home before leaving again?
@@PeevyMctweevy
I have so much pressure in my life now. I am currently here in UAE away from family and partner I feel very sad and like getting crazy. I miss my dog miss the mountains miss the sea everything about our province. These are the reason why I want to cross in Thailand aside from the reason of teaching there. I believe Thailand can be a good place for me.
I really hope you can get back to Thailand soon, and see your partner and dog. That day will come. Thanks
I think this is a really relevant and important topic, one I have thought about a lot when thinking about retiring to Thailand. I just spent a month there and had an amazing time but I did come away questioning if I could be happy there long term. I am single and not looking 😂 , fairly introverted and I need things to do or I get depressed easily. Without the ability to work or volunteer on a retirement visa I think I would go crazy after awhile. That and the new "possible " taxes that are going to be imposed have given me serious pause. It's still on the table but it's more of a wait and see at the moment.
Thanks for sharing Shain, it is a big thing to think about. You need to do something here to fill the time, for sure.
You speak the truth.
Cheers buddy 👍
I love Bangkok but I spend most of my time in Jomtien, boredom? At my age watching grass grow is too much excitement for me, loneliness? I've always been my best company, depression? only when being subjected to other people's stupidity, addictions? being freed from other people's stupidity, but for now I'm on vacation in the Philippines rising hell before I come back and rest up!
Haha nice! Enjoy The Philippines 👍
I think you are right the best way 7 months Europe and 5 months Thailand
Regarding motivation and sex if you get easily sex it might wear off your motivation to live because you don't have the chaos and adventure of the seduction process
I was part of the pickup community Real Social dynamics did pick up for 7 years basically every day but never paid for sex
Basically what I was doing was approaching girls every day but never paid for sex
Like this your days are never boring and you use the sexual energy to transform it in life energy
Btw don't drink or smoke
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Wayne nailed it Dave from Hua Hin
Nice one Dave! Hope all is well down in Hua Hin. I'll back down HH soon 👍
Good honest advice Wayne because this is so true mate. I'm early fifties, house paid off, saved up a few quid, comfortable, lived there before, can read, write Thai quite good when I lived there but have not been practicing so a good candidate for coming back permanent? Not sure. Did two months holiday this year, planned it very well all hotels booked and travel path, saw lots of things, busy sight seeing schedule every day, kept very busy and minimal bar time, first I hate those Asian lagers taste like crap but also bored of the "Bar scene standard talk" with those girls so, yea a bit, and had a few massages but didn't go overboard like I did in my 30's then.. ok I asked what would I do if I lived here? Could not answer that. You cant just have good breakfast/lunch/dinners and a few beers every day, it just wont work. You gotta have a plan so I may go back to teaching even part time, just to keep busy and make connections and good way to pickup the language again. "Chunks" as you said is a good idea as I don't want to give up my home, and free medicare if I need it again, no way in hell I would have serious surgery in Thailand. Hopefully they will give all western nations at least 90 days free walk in visa, would make it so easy as I also love Philippines and Indo, so do some "chunks" during the year, then come home, perhaps work a bit, and enjoy my outdoor groups at home, and do that for a while and see how it works out. How could you commit to a country that will not even commit to you? meaning their onerous visa 90 day reporting, double charge foreigners etc, just says to me you are not really welcome and ok, so you have to seriously take that into consideration when deciding how much time you want to spend there..The RISK of financial failure committing to a corrupt country that is essentially xenophobic is very high, that is a fact that cannot be ignored and as far as finding a decent woman is concerned, practically next to 0 unless you want to spend the rest of your life funding her and her family's problems and don't forget to RENT in all aspects if you want to keep a sane head and healthy bank balance and asset base (At home).
Thank you for the comment, it was a great read. It's good to see other peoples opinions and thoughts. What I would say is, I wouldn't be put off by medical and surgery over here. I thought the same when I first came, but I wouldn't have any trouble getting surgery done in Thailand now. Thanks.
I'm aiming at retiring over there in January. But the boredom is something that does concern me. But hopefully I can make new friends and start a new life .cheers Wayne
You'll be fine buddy, keep yourself active and enjoy the life. Thanks,
The best way to deal with down days is to do something that involves making someone or something feel worthy. Visit an Orphanage or Animal Rescue Centre. Take the focus away from yourself.
Nice one ! That's a different angle on things. Cheers.
Spot on mate 100% right
Nice one mate 👌
You Right, Thailand Not Paradise but is a house at trying Create House save zone with me, you and Everyone.
Problems born from self, Thanks you Mr.Wayne, The Batman From Phathit Database 🇹🇭
Thanks you For Love Thailand 🇹🇭
If My Country has problems we will solve problems self become good up.
Thank you! I love Thailand. Problems all over the world. Happy New Year 🙏🙏