The good things about the doors on the 3000/3100, you can queue the doors to open by pressing the button before the train stops and when the doors are released, it will open. Another thing, the red/green colour scheme that you noted at 5:43 actually indicates that the train has a hybrid system where braking energy is stored in a battery and was claimed to reduce emissions by 20%
The trains used to be 2x3 but when they revamped them they went for wider isles to allow for accessibility through the whole carriage. The green on the carriages signifies the new hybrid technology onboard, they still have the Mercedes generator but now have batteries as well. You will normally see ours run as sets of 2 but during peak periods or major events they can run as 3 or 4.
3000/3100 classes are also known as Poxboxes. The door handles found on the Comeng trains were used in Adelaide as well until a refurbishment was carried out a little over ten years ago. The 2+2 seating is a more recent change as they had 2+3 seating as built and even after they received the aforementioned refurbishment a little over ten years ago. The 2+2 seating being a standardised layout only started around 4 years ago.
I'm watching this as a Melbournian and realising that the announcer on board our D Class trams and newer is the same voice actor as the 3000 and 3100 class Adelaide DMUs. Interesting!
Most of the 3100 trains ive been on smell like urine and once i saw a poo under a seat. The trip up to belair is quite worth it. Awesome video, thank you for making it!
Yes it is. But that is not the only form of transport in Vic that has that announcement voice. The SG VLocity that Vline runs to Albury also has that voice
I used to lived in Adelaide and now I'm in Victoria and the Adelaide 3000 class and 3100 class and they r ok but they are getting bit old and the sign about the bus contact is for major train station and the 3000 class got now engines in them they have Mercedes Benz engine and 3100 class has hydrogen in them thats why they got a green on the side
5:26 Fun Fact, Adelaide 3000&3100 class used to have a Red and Black livery. But since the upgrade of Hybrid engine, some of the 3000&3100 class painted with a red and green livery showing they are Hybrid Train. Also, most Adelaide train connects with most local bus services as the train cannot cover all of the area nearby. So, Local bus service are required. And so, Adelaide Train and Local Bus schedule their timetable so that people can transfer easily. No need to wait for some time.
Nice comparison, In my opinion, the 3000s had so much potential, they could have been used on regional services to the adelaide hills or the mid north rather than just 4 non electric suburban lines. Also, only 3 comeng built units remain in service, 3005, 3006, 3007.
You can tell the similarities as comeng used the same type of roof panelling across the adeleide emu melbourne emu and even the 'harris' trains they refurbished back in the 80's. The Light covers of the adelaide emu resemble those of the melbourne alstom comeng as it is a grated light cover, contrary to the flat original edi ones. You can also see similiarites across the ac vents/ducting, same bogies as the melbourne disc braked alstom. a major difference that was overlooked is the fact that the adelaide emu has a diesel powertrain and the 3100 class in the livery with touches of green features batteries in conjunction with the diesel.
26 minute ago, early to a Straya Trains vid again, oh my PC will restart in 3 minutes so gotta type it quick, I noticed the Adelaide Comeng 3000 class and 3100 have front end gangways on the cabs meaning you can travel between units without getting off but the Melbourne Comeng has a flat cab without a gangway door.
Unfortunately the intercarriage gangways between the front ends of the 3000/3100 units is not ever in use, access is only permitted between two 3100 class units without cabs at both ends. Subsequently, if two 3000 class units are together no transit between carriages without leaving the train is possible.
Used to be possible to use them, and it’s good for safety when in a tunnel. In the 2010s the front seating next to the drivers cab became separated and along with no longer getting a drivers eye view access to the front gangway become restricted.
I have recently come back from SA as well. I think the 3000/3100 class are severely underpowered for the Belair Line. Hopefully further electrification is coming at least for that line
They can't electrify Belair unfortunately - for one there's too many tunnels that it'd be prohibitively expensive to raise the height of to accommodate the overhead wiring (the rock above them is also pretty unstable so I'm not even sure you COULD change the dimensions of the tunnel at all), but the other, more major problem is that there's too many trees overhanging the line, and you can't cut them back without destabilising the cliff faces. The plan is to buy new diesels for that line some time around 2030, probably based on the V/Line VLocity
@@lauriewhite8153 Adelaide Metro is committed to net zero emissions by 2050, so they are looking at electrification, battery or hydrogen trains for the other non electrified lines.
Are you sure it's actually impossible for both sets of doors to be unlocked at the same time? There isn't a scenario where it'd happen but it would be a weird thing to not include.
@ I know it’s stupid there is not a broad gauge main line to Adelaide I get there has to be a standard gauge but was it that hard to retain the broad gauge mainline
adelaide looks to be better in most metrics apart from them goofy ticket machines in the train, probably why melbourne has 4 types of trains newer than these
The good things about the doors on the 3000/3100, you can queue the doors to open by pressing the button before the train stops and when the doors are released, it will open. Another thing, the red/green colour scheme that you noted at 5:43 actually indicates that the train has a hybrid system where braking energy is stored in a battery and was claimed to reduce emissions by 20%
Traction type is a very major difference. Melbourne is electric and Adelaide is diesel/battery
Fun fact some of the early built units are actually Clydes. At 4:30 your camera actually shows a clyde builders plate above the door.
It was the later built examples that were built by Clyde.
The trains used to be 2x3 but when they revamped them they went for wider isles to allow for accessibility through the whole carriage. The green on the carriages signifies the new hybrid technology onboard, they still have the Mercedes generator but now have batteries as well. You will normally see ours run as sets of 2 but during peak periods or major events they can run as 3 or 4.
What a lie lol.
@@thenetheriteminecartzactnm what is?
3000/3100 classes are also known as Poxboxes.
The door handles found on the Comeng trains were used in Adelaide as well until a refurbishment was carried out a little over ten years ago.
The 2+2 seating is a more recent change as they had 2+3 seating as built and even after they received the aforementioned refurbishment a little over ten years ago. The 2+2 seating being a standardised layout only started around 4 years ago.
3:44 the subtitle also calling craigieburn crazy 💀😂
Lol
@@StrayaTrains i just sent you an email great video keep up the great work
Thankyou Straya for this video! 👍
:)
I'm watching this as a Melbournian and realising that the announcer on board our D Class trams and newer is the same voice actor as the 3000 and 3100 class Adelaide DMUs. Interesting!
Most of the 3100 trains ive been on smell like urine and once i saw a poo under a seat. The trip up to belair is quite worth it. Awesome video, thank you for making it!
Thanks
3:37 is it just me or is that announcement the same guy that does the tram stop announcements in melbourne?
Yes it is. But that is not the only form of transport in Vic that has that announcement voice. The SG VLocity that Vline runs to Albury also has that voice
I used to lived in Adelaide and now I'm in Victoria and the Adelaide 3000 class and 3100 class and they r ok but they are getting bit old and the sign about the bus contact is for major train station and the 3000 class got now engines in them they have Mercedes Benz engine and 3100 class has hydrogen in them thats why they got a green on the side
5:26
Fun Fact, Adelaide 3000&3100 class used to have a Red and Black livery. But since the upgrade of Hybrid engine, some of the 3000&3100 class painted with a red and green livery showing they are Hybrid Train.
Also, most Adelaide train connects with most local bus services as the train cannot cover all of the area nearby. So, Local bus service are required. And so, Adelaide Train and Local Bus schedule their timetable so that people can transfer easily. No need to wait for some time.
Thanks for the explanation. This makes sense now
We need a part 4 for the vlocity and the 4000s
The green specific means that they are hybrid
The 3000 class railcars used to have 2x3 seating, and most of the onboard announcements used to be a different male voice, imo better sounding.
My hometown!
@Xander_D5020 Indeed
isn't there also a different sound to the motors on the 2 trains?
Nice comparison, In my opinion, the 3000s had so much potential, they could have been used on regional services to the adelaide hills or the mid north rather than just 4 non electric suburban lines. Also, only 3 comeng built units remain in service, 3005, 3006, 3007.
I assume I missed mention of the different power systems - one electric and the other diesel
You can tell the similarities as comeng used the same type of roof panelling across the adeleide emu melbourne emu and even the 'harris' trains they refurbished back in the 80's. The Light covers of the adelaide emu resemble those of the melbourne alstom comeng as it is a grated light cover, contrary to the flat original edi ones. You can also see similiarites across the ac vents/ducting, same bogies as the melbourne disc braked alstom. a major difference that was overlooked is the fact that the adelaide emu has a diesel powertrain and the 3100 class in the livery with touches of green features batteries in conjunction with the diesel.
26 minute ago, early to a Straya Trains vid again, oh my PC will restart in 3 minutes so gotta type it quick, I noticed the Adelaide Comeng 3000 class and 3100 have front end gangways on the cabs meaning you can travel between units without getting off but the Melbourne Comeng has a flat cab without a gangway door.
Unfortunately the intercarriage gangways between the front ends of the 3000/3100 units is not ever in use, access is only permitted between two 3100 class units without cabs at both ends. Subsequently, if two 3000 class units are together no transit between carriages without leaving the train is possible.
@@OliAwesomePlayz Well then they have like no point in existing, if they were in use it would mean double unit trains aren't a problem.
Used to be possible to use them, and it’s good for safety when in a tunnel. In the 2010s the front seating next to the drivers cab became separated and along with no longer getting a drivers eye view access to the front gangway become restricted.
Cool
They took our Comenges and turned them into diesels! Nice video mate
And then we took your VLocitys and turned them into electrics 🤣
What about the other 5 electric comeng's that resided in NSW?
What is the first one of these three please
The Overland Trip
I have recently come back from SA as well. I think the 3000/3100 class are severely underpowered for the Belair Line. Hopefully further electrification is coming at least for that line
They can't electrify Belair unfortunately - for one there's too many tunnels that it'd be prohibitively expensive to raise the height of to accommodate the overhead wiring (the rock above them is also pretty unstable so I'm not even sure you COULD change the dimensions of the tunnel at all), but the other, more major problem is that there's too many trees overhanging the line, and you can't cut them back without destabilising the cliff faces.
The plan is to buy new diesels for that line some time around 2030, probably based on the V/Line VLocity
@@LucyJrts or just a direct diesel version of the 4000 class EMU?
@@lauriewhite8153 aka Sprinter railmotors…
@@lauriewhite8153 Adelaide Metro is committed to net zero emissions by 2050, so they are looking at electrification, battery or hydrogen trains for the other non electrified lines.
@@fruityhangout5940 would it be possible to have some sort of "third rail" on the Belair line?
The anoucements siund like Melbourne Trams
No way ur here
Are you sure it's actually impossible for both sets of doors to be unlocked at the same time? There isn't a scenario where it'd happen but it would be a weird thing to not include.
They can be in Melb for maintenance purposes mainly
cool
As a Port Adealiade FC fan I give a like to anyone who goes through Alberton.
Also are you going to compare the A-City Class Trains with the V-Line Velocities?
The green is only for the hybrid trains otherwise they are just red
I am from south Adelaide in gawler
Bro missed the most obvious differences... the Adelaide ones are not electric
If you think horn usage is infrequent in Adelaide then I can't wait until you experience Sydney.
Haha. Maybe one day I will go
3:06 in Adelaide metro 3000 train cope new 4000 electric train
The Adelaide comeng also run on broad gauge so in theory they could come down to Melbourne and run with minimal compatibility problems
If the two lines were still connected yes. Adelaides new broad gauge trains built in Melbourne had to be trucked here cause we have no BG link.
@ I know it’s stupid there is not a broad gauge main line to Adelaide I get there has to be a standard gauge but was it that hard to retain the broad gauge mainline
Several earlier 3000 class units were delivered from Melbourne on the former BG line.
There used to be 3 BG lines, I remember a red hen (or superchook?) went to Korumburra via Pinaroo, now both places have no rail service.
@@darylcheshire1618 yeah real shame
I can tell some videos you have here are old cause comings don’t run to Dandenong
adelaide looks to be better in most metrics apart from them goofy ticket machines in the train, probably why melbourne has 4 types of trains newer than these
That’s a waste of space having a ticket machine and validation systems on the train 😮