I believe the reason bird was getting two debuffs was because it wasn't using skills. Cause technically the phase change counts as a turn, so it registered as a turn without using a skill, and then there was a second from the full team thing
I was just about to say the same thing. It skips the birds turn on the "first" turn, so any Passive that activates if they don't do something will always happen on the phase change.
The second flame that you get at the beginning it's because when the beats dies without attack you it count that he doesn't have attacked for escanor passive
@@kickoflipo1630 Isn't the worst considering that his Relic also grants him more Stats because of the Defense that is included in Basic Stats. So more Atk.
I have been saying forever that I would much prefer some side story spin-offs for secondary characters like Gilthunder, Howzer, Jericho, etc. and give them festival units. Would honestly be awesome af.
tbh i think original characters are good for the game but not when they released them more than they actually character from the series, i like the catastrophes and Ragnarök, but it feels like we're going to reach a point where there's more collab and original units then 7ds ones
@@StoryEnjoyer220 people didn’t think ragnorok would just be original characters in fact it a lot of people thought it’d be a anime so of course people liked it until they just started releasing dogshit demonic beast units who no one cares about
@@mosshead6986 what kind of Non original Ragnarok charachters would they even make? Beside the sins no one from the main series was transported into the Ragnarok world. Also what the hell do u mean dogshit demonic beast charachters, there's literally only a few and they're all good for demonic beast.
They need to release the guy who insided the fairies and was strong enough to kill faries goddesses and giants pretty easily 3000 years ago. If they released that human he would be a great fit
Lou, or Rou was a strong one, yeah. Would've been cool, if Netmarble released him, Gerhard (new variant, with eyepatch/no legs, they have her boss model in game for years) Grayroad... I would've liked it. 😊
Its going to be really difficult for f2p players to get him without the 60 free coins. Most f2p players cant go past platinum in hero arena and that can only give you about 7 of the coins over 6 weeks is not enough im worried abt how fast theyre going to push out these lrs bc the f2p players are really gonna struggle keeping up
Considering most just got Lr Lostvayne a couple of weeks ago so idk how this system will work but it seems to favor the p2w players like most of this games systems
I can beat master no problem and im on my way to champion. the only reason as a f2p that you can't beat master is because you are undisciplined with your resources or you are brand new to the game. I have 20 coins now from Lab and will get him in 7 weeks (6 weeks of 10 from arena and 20 from next lab). I would suggest you do your research and invest into your teams properly. I think this pace is perfectly fine as the resources required to make an LR while also progressing the rest of my account is about that much time. you complain now that it is too fast but if you had to wait longer you would complain that it is too slow.
@yikes3049 I think you read wrong I said most f2p players not all f2p players, I never said I can't do master but I'm aware that most f2p players can't based on the comments I see on LR units RUclips videos and there are a lot of new players in this game, a lot of casual players in the game as well who can't get three different 300k cc teams and you got to understand that and stop focusing on the og players of the game bc believe it or not the ratio is higher for newer beginner or casual players then it is for p2w and advanced players like you and myself. Your looking at one side of the player base instead of looking at it as a whole
I think the optimal team for escanor would be: him, ban, naofumi, and green arthur on the back. and for the 2 eternal flame on turn 1, is cause transition between stages count as a turn. (you kill, ends your turn, a turn for the transition, and your turn again)
For anyone wondering you get 2 flames because when the beast dies it counts as "not attacking" which triggers the passive, then you get the passive application from the full human team. That's also why one of them comes in with 2/3 turns remaining.
It applies 2 effects at the beginning of the 2/3/4 phase because when you kill the beast it doesn't attack, and when you start your turn it applies the part of the enemy not attacking and applies the one that is applied all the beginning of the turn
I agree with you on original chars and Eastins. I absolutely am with you as well about refreshing old characters, this is what a lot of people play for and what they want to see. Zara trash is strong like you said he was a grand master but tbh a human grand master is nothing compared to other races regarding power levels. They reach like 4kcc while Lostvayne Meli season 2 was already 32kcc when he defeated Fraudrin. Well maybe if they keep going with Grand Cross before Origin and do 4KoA they will have more humans to use. We could get all from the hero company, adult Guila, adult Jericho etc
I think it work like purga meli since the beast don't attack since you kill it it count as not attacking and proc the flame in addition of the full human team one
I think over time, more and more LRs will be released, to the point where if you're not in the top 1% of players it's just impossible to catch up to all of them (which is good cause it can be a long time goal for most players) but lowkey I feel like skipping both Lostvayne and Escanor so when there's like 20 of them, I have a stockpile of coins to choose. They're not essential for PVP yet at least so idk how long it'll last but that's my strategy for now.
@@imstillplayingarknightsyeah you can only get up to 100 but I'm with you waiting till there is a 10 LRs or more is better so you can choose which one you want more
@@normal2410by the time 10 LR come even f2p, if they're willing to commit, would probably have at least 4 maybe 5 of those 10 LR so Imo it's better to just get them.
At the start of the bird fight. I think u get 2 because. 1 for the start of the turn and the second is because the bird did not attack the previous turn/wave
You can correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Purg Meli do the same with them when he kills them? The whole passive kicking in for next phase, but in Purg Meli case it was more so towards them "not attacking" so they get debuff to lose ult orbs.
escanors eternal flame the second part of it that reaapplies another stack works the same as purg meli passive, on any multi phase fight that can be debuffed you can see purg meli passive kicking in instantly
i have 99 coins, I think I'll go with lost vayne. something I hate the most about passives are restrictions. ps: 20:20 humans have it too, but its big +8% basic statt boost 🤣
Hey I’m still have trouble with the first Demonic beast, when I get too his last skull in the first round, my attacks and ultimate attack does little to no damage. And I can’t figure out why.
Part of the LR passive is that if they don’t attack the previous turn they get an eternal flame so when the demonic beast phase begins besides phase one since they didn’t attack they get one and get another for having a team with full humans
Yo get 2 flames because you kill the beast and in the next phase it counts like it did not use a skill so you get one from that and one from the 4human team
I think it’s to early we literally not to long ago we got LV Meli now another? Nah I don’t think so it’s probably either going to be a different sin member or maybe an goddess or demon that’s what I at least think
I'm holding onto my lr mats for now even though this escanor would be a fun one to use I just can't replace the one ultimate I like him way too much to justify it
I think Attack Defense is better because: It gives more cc, it gives slightly more tankiness and since escanor already has 300% crit damage the 20% from the crit set is not that big of a boost. He might hit slightly harder but if anything its just so minor that the higher cc might make more of a difference
Why did they let the passive to require humans only and when he has 5 orbs he can't be buffed and debuffed, why didn't they let him to be buffed with 5 orbs?
I totally agree but at the same time a lot of people are playing 7ds game for 7ds characters, so ragnarok and catastrophies are just a waste of good designs that don't belong to that game:-(
@@angelsans1625 the problem with fryer ( mine doesn’t have holy rec or any cosmetic) is he constantly dies during the 3rd floor of the bird; even though he’s great for the first two; then I feel like Diane and mat don’t do enough damage
Zaratras lost yes but let’s not gorget it was explicitely stated that he was heavily poisoned by eating a pie given to him by his own brother before being attacked so yeah he lost but not cause he was weak but cause he was weakened
Cool, so my rag team with freyr holy relic is still the best for demonic beast it looks like lol. Which is good considering i cant get LR Esca for....8 weeks minimum. 😂
Cuz they care about the characters and that's thier winning point. Easten (not sure about spelling) is more likelble for the gamers so they would pull for her just for the character herself. What makes this game a success the fact of people likes the characters. If the characters are bad or not known no one would care about pulling. And it happened to me and others. When the last Collab happened I didn't even log into the game cuz I don't know who are these guys. In the other hand when slime came out I couldn't wait to pull for the new slime. Aaand here we go
We will most likely be getting more busted Human characters when 4KOTA comes to the game, if they don't make all of Arthurs knights Chaos race they should all be Human and they will all be pretty strong, also Percival should be human and he will be the most busted unit whenever he drops. Let's also not mention Chaos Arthur will be the best human unit we will have ever gotten. Spoilers but some human characters from 7DS will get units whenever 4KOTA comes out and Jericho is one. That's all I will say.
Its sad because there was some cool original characters at first, I think most people thought shin was cool, but as you said there are way too many versions of them and they're pretty bad. You talked about red Jericho and I remember I thought she had a cool kit but dogshit stats I would love to see her again... Maybe when they get into new manga stuff
The eternal flames stacks through the different phases because it works the same as Ban's attack related stats lower passive (since it's a grey debuff) edit: nvm i watched the rest of the video and i dont really get how it works lmao
I know Right! Jericho could be insane if she got a new unit with a holy relic and a new guilthunder or chaos Arthur they have a lot of options but they just keep releasing OC which is sooooo annoying
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I believe the reason bird was getting two debuffs was because it wasn't using skills. Cause technically the phase change counts as a turn, so it registered as a turn without using a skill, and then there was a second from the full team thing
Yup, as Purgatory Meliodas does 🥸
I was just about to say the same thing. It skips the birds turn on the "first" turn, so any Passive that activates if they don't do something will always happen on the phase change.
Correct!
Correction at 2:24 :
He is actually Second, not first unit to have a passive that involves subslot.... The first one was Red Base Eastin(edited)
Red NOT Awaken Eastin
@@LePertsetti ye i just looked, mb... gonna edit
The second flame that you get at the beginning it's because when the beats dies without attack you it count that he doesn't have attacked for escanor passive
20:30 Red Howzer Increases basic stats by 8%
Yes but its red howzer
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Isn't the worst considering that his Relic also grants him more Stats because of the Defense that is included in Basic Stats. So more Atk.
I have been saying forever that I would much prefer some side story spin-offs for secondary characters like Gilthunder, Howzer, Jericho, etc. and give them festival units. Would honestly be awesome af.
hell no, lame ass characters besides Gil
@@MukEnXX you're entitled to your opinion, even if it's stoooooopid 🥸
@@uewumopapisdn ur the only Cornball I’ve seen mention these lame ass characters for FEST units. Not an opinion, no one wants those chars. Cope
tbh i think original characters are good for the game but not when they released them more than they actually character from the series, i like the catastrophes and Ragnarök, but it feels like we're going to reach a point where there's more collab and original units then 7ds ones
They did say that this year they're gonna focus more on Ragnarok tho and people liked this idea iirc.
@@StoryEnjoyer220yeah but at the start of ragnorok they were releasing ragnorok sins
@@mosshead6986 what does that have to do with what I said? That's just a completely different fact.
@@StoryEnjoyer220 people didn’t think ragnorok would just be original characters in fact it a lot of people thought it’d be a anime so of course people liked it until they just started releasing dogshit demonic beast units who no one cares about
@@mosshead6986 what kind of Non original Ragnarok charachters would they even make? Beside the sins no one from the main series was transported into the Ragnarok world. Also what the hell do u mean dogshit demonic beast charachters, there's literally only a few and they're all good for demonic beast.
They need to release the guy who insided the fairies and was strong enough to kill faries goddesses and giants pretty easily 3000 years ago. If they released that human he would be a great fit
You're talking about Oslo past life? His name was rou or something
Lou, or Rou was a strong one, yeah. Would've been cool, if Netmarble released him, Gerhard (new variant, with eyepatch/no legs, they have her boss model in game for years)
Grayroad...
I would've liked it. 😊
@@Makine7 yes back when Oslo was a human
I think you're onto something...actually putting 7DS characters in a 7DS game. BRILLIANT! Listen to the man netmarble spy.
You're fucking awesome Nag, I was just looking this up and couldn't find shit.... 30 seconds later I get your notif 😂 Can't wait for more Escanor!!!
Its going to be really difficult for f2p players to get him without the 60 free coins. Most f2p players cant go past platinum in hero arena and that can only give you about 7 of the coins over 6 weeks is not enough im worried abt how fast theyre going to push out these lrs bc the f2p players are really gonna struggle keeping up
I thought the same
Considering most just got Lr Lostvayne a couple of weeks ago so idk how this system will work but it seems to favor the p2w players like most of this games systems
I can beat master no problem and im on my way to champion. the only reason as a f2p that you can't beat master is because you are undisciplined with your resources or you are brand new to the game. I have 20 coins now from Lab and will get him in 7 weeks (6 weeks of 10 from arena and 20 from next lab). I would suggest you do your research and invest into your teams properly. I think this pace is perfectly fine as the resources required to make an LR while also progressing the rest of my account is about that much time. you complain now that it is too fast but if you had to wait longer you would complain that it is too slow.
@yikes3049 I think you read wrong I said most f2p players not all f2p players, I never said I can't do master but I'm aware that most f2p players can't based on the comments I see on LR units RUclips videos and there are a lot of new players in this game, a lot of casual players in the game as well who can't get three different 300k cc teams and you got to understand that and stop focusing on the og players of the game bc believe it or not the ratio is higher for newer beginner or casual players then it is for p2w and advanced players like you and myself. Your looking at one side of the player base instead of looking at it as a whole
@@jeremiah9702 bro is probably 9mil cc box lol
I think the optimal team for escanor would be: him, ban, naofumi, and green arthur on the back.
and for the 2 eternal flame on turn 1, is cause transition between stages count as a turn. (you kill, ends your turn, a turn for the transition, and your turn again)
I can never obtain that character again anyway. Thank you Netmarble 😪 Bedge
I might try that one out.
Optimal Escanor team has gotta be Escanor, Chainsaw Roxy, Fest Ban, and Green Arthur in the back
Also in this case I'm leaning more towards attack defense since the damage is in the same ballpark as attack crit damage but he's a little more tanky
For anyone wondering you get 2 flames because when the beast dies it counts as "not attacking" which triggers the passive, then you get the passive application from the full human team. That's also why one of them comes in with 2/3 turns remaining.
It applies 2 effects at the beginning of the 2/3/4 phase because when you kill the beast it doesn't attack, and when you start your turn it applies the part of the enemy not attacking and applies the one that is applied all the beginning of the turn
I agree with you on original chars and Eastins. I absolutely am with you as well about refreshing old characters, this is what a lot of people play for and what they want to see. Zara trash is strong like you said he was a grand master but tbh a human grand master is nothing compared to other races regarding power levels. They reach like 4kcc while Lostvayne Meli season 2 was already 32kcc when he defeated Fraudrin. Well maybe if they keep going with Grand Cross before Origin and do 4KoA they will have more humans to use. We could get all from the hero company, adult Guila, adult Jericho etc
I think it work like purga meli since the beast don't attack since you kill it it count as not attacking and proc the flame in addition of the full human team one
I think over time, more and more LRs will be released, to the point where if you're not in the top 1% of players it's just impossible to catch up to all of them (which is good cause it can be a long time goal for most players) but lowkey I feel like skipping both Lostvayne and Escanor so when there's like 20 of them, I have a stockpile of coins to choose. They're not essential for PVP yet at least so idk how long it'll last but that's my strategy for now.
Pretty sure you can only keep 100 at a time but I could be wrong
@@beardedcat9744 fr? Ffs
@@imstillplayingarknightsyeah you can only get up to 100 but I'm with you waiting till there is a 10 LRs or more is better so you can choose which one you want more
@@normal2410by the time 10 LR come even f2p, if they're willing to commit, would probably have at least 4 maybe 5 of those 10 LR so Imo it's better to just get them.
I would love to get a Guila as a support unit! It's been too long since we've seen it
At the start of the bird fight. I think u get 2 because. 1 for the start of the turn and the second is because the bird did not attack the previous turn/wave
Nag, you got 2 because every turn it applies a flame and since the bird didn’t attack last turn, another flame was applied.
You can correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Purg Meli do the same with them when he kills them?
The whole passive kicking in for next phase, but in Purg Meli case it was more so towards them "not attacking" so they get debuff to lose ult orbs.
yeah, its like skipping a turn therefore they get next debuff and first one looses its one turn.
you are right there
11:51 is that a kronii référence ?
Yeah good humans would be cool and all but what about a few useful fairies to build a ne rave related GOOD team
escanors eternal flame the second part of it that reaapplies another stack works the same as purg meli passive, on any multi phase fight that can be debuffed you can see purg meli passive kicking in instantly
Maybe they gonna do one of each race
First was demon, now human, next giant or fairy or unknown
i have 99 coins, I think I'll go with lost vayne. something I hate the most about passives are restrictions.
ps: 20:20 humans have it too, but its big +8% basic statt boost 🤣
Gil, Howzer, Gilla, Jericho are all missing an post purgatory ban banner unit
Quick question for anyone, on deer.. if you're gonna use unknown and don't have either raphtalia or milim... what's your blue unit?
Nagato, you forgot that the human have one of the most broken back unit, red howzer with 8% basic stats
Thanks for this.
I thought he could still manually apply flames in mixed teams?
Hey I’m still have trouble with the first Demonic beast, when I get too his last skull in the first round, my attacks and ultimate attack does little to no damage. And I can’t figure out why.
Can u do a video comparing LR lostvayne and lr green escanor?
Hey when is the global update release ? I can’t find it nowhere
What team can I use to beat bird I still can’t beat phase 3 since everyone is almost dead
Should I do another rotation on tyr banner instead of this one as I need freyja for nidhogg I have 600 gems
Part of the LR passive is that if they don’t attack the previous turn they get an eternal flame so when the demonic beast phase begins besides phase one since they didn’t attack they get one and get another for having a team with full humans
Yo get 2 flames because you kill the beast and in the next phase it counts like it did not use a skill so you get one from that and one from the 4human team
Next LR should be counter Meliodas... He has so much potential to make a great LR... Especially if he releases with his holy relic
I think it’s to early we literally not to long ago we got LV Meli now another? Nah I don’t think so it’s probably either going to be a different sin member or maybe an goddess or demon that’s what I at least think
Meliodas again why?? Let other character chance to shine
I didn’t think so buddy chandler with his relic is already too good
next LR probably will be Merlin
Yesterday i was grinding deer to get the card set for dog and after 2 clears i got the dark dog card
I believe that they will change his passive so he can work with humans and sins
Who wants to bet we're getting Eastin as the Christmas unit?
LR Eastin lets go Kappa 😏😂💀
the flame aplies also when the enemy dont use cards so when they die it apllies on the next phase
Can I replace Roxy with Transcendent Ban? Since I do not have her and I want to run this human team soon... help please!
I'm holding onto my lr mats for now even though this escanor would be a fun one to use I just can't replace the one ultimate I like him way too much to justify it
I’d like to think that we’ll get a human team that’s stronger than demons and goddesses once King of Chaos Arthur drops
U apply 1 flame cuz of escanor then u get an extra because u kill the bird so he doesn’t attack
LR Meli LV Without HolyRelic or LR Green Escanor With Holy Relic?
I completely agree with you. I would come back to the game if they-would start releasing more humans.
What if they make the new eastin the human stat booster 😂
I think Attack Defense is better because: It gives more cc, it gives slightly more tankiness and since escanor already has 300% crit damage the 20% from the crit set is not that big of a boost. He might hit slightly harder but if anything its just so minor that the higher cc might make more of a difference
Also the crit damage is worthless whenever he doesnt crit while the defense atk bonus is always in work
I personally like the original characters but i would love if they started to make new human units for hizer gil and continue the original characters
How do people already have enough coins for another
Kinda like blue ban with the attack lower it don't go away with each phase
what about get a banner like the collabs with like 4 new characters that are treated like trash that will be usefull in vary different ways
Who i do first? Lr esca? Lr mel?
Who is better meli or escanor Lr
well we still missing awaken shin.. so thats 1 more human to look forward to
Hello my cruel sun bros
yea, like where is like realy good gillthunder or howzer?? like some om them are decet, but basicly unusable
It would be nice if you could buff Escanor but that would not fit is character of that time of the unit
What if I don’t have blue Roxy?
now imagine after 4 years they release greyroad as an LR with a passive that kills units bcs of the commandment yk
I wonder how mad Roxy will be when she gets a holy relic
Isn't it the most released human is Jericho?
Why did they let the passive to require humans only and when he has 5 orbs he can't be buffed and debuffed, why didn't they let him to be buffed with 5 orbs?
Can someone tell me how tf to farm dogs
Yare Yare, I'm the one at the pinnacle of all races.
I love watching all your videos ❤️
I was hoping we would get the rhita cosmetic return ngl
Is he better than LR Meli?
Floor two phase to of bird is hell ifbyou don't kill it in one turn
I WANT A LR JERICHO< AND I WANNA USE HUMANS ALSO Little diene LR having a human bost or something it would be so cool.
I guess im one of the crazy ones I think all the OC's in this game are crazy cool and much prefer them over characters like gil howzer etc
I totally agree but at the same time a lot of people are playing 7ds game for 7ds characters, so ragnarok and catastrophies are just a waste of good designs that don't belong to that game:-(
Without any LRs, I wonder what’s the fastest bird team
TOU, megelda, Traitor meli, 4th character can be anyone good like brunhild, Fryer, Diane, Matrona
@@angelsans1625 the problem with fryer ( mine doesn’t have holy rec or any cosmetic) is he constantly dies during the 3rd floor of the bird; even though he’s great for the first two; then I feel like Diane and mat don’t do enough damage
Is summer Freyja any good for demonic beasts?
Yeah, for snake
it counts 2 times beceus it triggers again beceuas they dident attack the tirn they died si they can 2 stacks
Zaratras lost yes but let’s not gorget it was explicitely stated that he was heavily poisoned by eating a pie given to him by his own brother before being attacked so yeah he lost but not cause he was weak but cause he was weakened
lr blue king lr blue giant diane the og one or red gowther would be sick
Hope they release a very good Sigurd.
Come on guys, he's badass and he only has 1 unit? Ain't no way xD
Cool, so my rag team with freyr holy relic is still the best for demonic beast it looks like lol. Which is good considering i cant get LR Esca for....8 weeks minimum. 😂
I think escanor should've have his buff removed when he gets ult, that just doesn't make sense
Who’s more worth getting LR lostvayne or LR Escanor?
I’m wondering the same thing can you @ me if you get a answer?
Cuz they care about the characters and that's thier winning point.
Easten (not sure about spelling) is more likelble for the gamers so they would pull for her just for the character herself.
What makes this game a success the fact of people likes the characters.
If the characters are bad or not known no one would care about pulling.
And it happened to me and others.
When the last Collab happened I didn't even log into the game cuz I don't know who are these guys.
In the other hand when slime came out I couldn't wait to pull for the new slime.
Aaand here we go
The eternal flame on bird and dogs works exactly like purgatory meli's debuff,if the enemy doesn't attack they got the debuff
i pray everyday for a good jericho
Nag reading into our minds and dropping the best content
The ultimate question. Lr escanor or Lr lostvayne?
Lr Lostvayne, Escanor is missing his team atm while Lostvayne has his team already
and lostvayne has better cc than escanor
Now hear me out.. naofumi, escanor, green or red Arthur and green gil on the back
Waiting for hour long pvp session
We will most likely be getting more busted Human characters when 4KOTA comes to the game, if they don't make all of Arthurs knights Chaos race they should all be Human and they will all be pretty strong, also Percival should be human and he will be the most busted unit whenever he drops. Let's also not mention Chaos Arthur will be the best human unit we will have ever gotten. Spoilers but some human characters from 7DS will get units whenever 4KOTA comes out and Jericho is one. That's all I will say.
So is LR Escanor better than Light Escanor???
No!!!!!!
4KOA in manga a lot of human
In 7ds there are characters we don't have are hype like Nerobasta we want Nerobasta
I think next lr will be, fest liz (normal) 🤔
Plz try Roxy's swimsuit outfit 🛐
Its sad because there was some cool original characters at first, I think most people thought shin was cool, but as you said there are way too many versions of them and they're pretty bad.
You talked about red Jericho and I remember I thought she had a cool kit but dogshit stats I would love to see her again... Maybe when they get into new manga stuff
The eternal flames stacks through the different phases because it works the same as Ban's attack related stats lower passive (since it's a grey debuff)
edit: nvm i watched the rest of the video and i dont really get how it works lmao
You're so right about humans like Jericho or Guilthunder, man they should listen the community instead of release some random not cool characters
I know Right! Jericho could be insane if she got a new unit with a holy relic and a new guilthunder or chaos Arthur they have a lot of options but they just keep releasing OC which is sooooo annoying
Ironically the Ayaya would Stomp Ban 💀
T1u is just a better choice for pve
Light Gilthunder plz netmother where is he
I hope they make another Jericho