Great presentation! Massad Ayoob, the foremost authority on armed defense, has always preached that concealed carry permit owners are held to a higher standard of conduct. That means we don’t get drunk or high, stay out of sketchy areas we have no business in, don’t participate in road rage and walk away from insults. If you can’t behave, don’t carry.
Right on! And we should also know, as concealed carriers, that we should do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to deescalate a situation. Our speech, body language, etc., should be more on the meek side so we can avoid ever having to draw our weapon. After 22 years in the military and three wars, I've had enough death and destruction. I hope I NEVER have to draw my gun on another human being. There is most definitely a higher standard, as well as a higher expectation from the public, for those who carry guns. It may require choosing a new set of friends and a new set of hobbies, etc. Realize the gravity of carrying a deadly weapon on your person and act and think accordingly. Stay safe.
Drejka also had a history of road rage incidents where he made threats and displayed his firearm. It’s really important to learn to control ego and emotions, especially if you’re a concealed carrier.
Yeah he was wrong it was a pepper spray kind of moment or a run moment being caught by surprise he shot him and it was murder terrible and that’s how fast prison comes
This is a MAJOR problem in a lot of sectors in the general gun community. Lot of dudes say "I hope I never have to use my gun", but a lot of them do a ton of rambling about how they are just ready to shoot anyone for reasons that will get them sent to prison they think otherwise makes them heros. Rude awakenings really. Like he said, dude think they're tough but prison tends to break a lot of wannabes who think prison is a justified means to an end.
@@2real385 Yeah. Some people are incapable of mentally putting themselves in a situation and have zero idea what it's like to be in a situation like that. Keep that rape whistle and pepper spray handy. You'll be fine.
That guy belongs in prison, harassing the mother of a man’s child and then killing him in front of his kid when he put him in your place. Along with his history of irresponsible gun use. Disgusting behavior that makes all carriers look bad
as someone who watches a lot of poorly edited videos of live events... I commend you for bumping the volume so we could hear what people are saying in the background!
The normal ASP videos are fantastic, but this is content that can be put in front of people who are not predisposed to watching this type of content. Super useful. Thanks!
The first CCW class my wife and I took required us to attend a four hour module with an attorney that expressed to us what what happened after the trigger was pulled. It was very informative and eye-opening to the laws and the inner workings of our state at that time.
John is one of the most articulate and intelligent people I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching. I’m so glad he provides us with this content and that I’m watching this at such a young age and accumulating knowledge in this field. Huge fan, John. Thanks for what you do
8:28 "use it as a tool of last resort only when the alternative to using it is so heinous you can't live with it." I agree completely but the problem is in a situation like a mugging where you have to weigh between complying or counter attacking if you figure there is a less than 50% chance they won't hurt you if you comply. Or say you figure it's 20% (but you can't really know). You have to weigh the risk of getting killed against the risk of prison / losing the gunfight / going broke / PTSD, all in a split second. It's a tough decision.
If you're a concealed carrier, and you get mugged, the one thing you KNOW will happen is that the muggers will be armed with a real, loaded gun after they find yours AND you will be disarmed ... and they will be kind of angry that you had a gun on you. You may feel that complying is OK before they find the gun, but the percentages change after they find your gun.
Not really. Someone isn’t gonna mug you while they’re unarmed. Once someone asks your for your property with a weapon in their hand, it’s a green light. Any reasonable person would think they’re about to be killed for it.
@@amcconnell6730 nowhere near the amount of people robbed with real weapons. you’re using an extreme outlier chance as a reason not to shoot? Unless it’s got a bright Orange cap any reasonable persona would assume it’s a real firearm.
The sad thing about the gas station incident is that had the guy not shot the " assualter" absolutely nothing would have been done and everybody knows it. That's why these people do this shit because short of somebody dying the cops ain't even showing up.
@@amcconnell6730 Some of the people have a CCW but don't carry every day because of work or other constraints. Last time I checked it think it was around 65 to 70% of man had a CCW in Indiana. In my social group it's more like 95% including the ladies.
In the next county over from my vacation house in Pennsylvania, over half of the adult population has carry permits. In those rural parts you can assume that every house has guns in it. Crime is very low.
Holy moly! I am so glad you bring up the legal stuff. People love talking about what gun they'd use, how'd they'd fight someone but always neglect the legal stuff! Or even the pre-combat stuff. Refreshing takes.
I appreciate you putting this content out for free. This speaks to your true motives which is to train people how to defend themselves well. Much thanks.
Self defense insurance is a good investment.and not to bad in cost. the man who had to shoot in a Texas church years ago.while cut and dry and no charges pressed. It still cost over 50 grand after the fact. Carry insurance covered it.
i have never seen the full video of the florida case, only the push and then the shooting. Never saw the whole vid of the man stepping back, amazing change of events.
About a hundred years ago, when I first started to shoot, my father, who taught me military style, told me the most important thing about owning a gun, "Once you pull the trigger, you cannot take it back" more over, "What ever you do, you will have to live with the fact that you took a persons life away from him, a parent away from a child, a child away from a parent, etc". These things you will live with for the rest of your life. So if you have to pull your weapon and discharge it, think about these things. If justified and no other recourse then that is one thing, but be sure there were no other courses you could have taken, at least given the circumstances at the moment and a moment may be all you have, but arm chair quarterbacks will be making the judgment. Very good lesson taught here. Thank you for sharing.
John, what a gift this was seeing your presentation. I’ve trained some, but people who understand gunfights, have not been able to teach me from such a broad knowledge base, OR in a way that is tailored to CC. Thank you very much.
The truth is John; after I found CC 5 mistakes and you published the whole seminar for free, it was I who got the gift. And heres why: Your presentation is current, fast moving comprehensive FOR THE CCW guy. Most of the outstanding lectures I’ve had on this material were aimed at police or military; and not me. Also I guess I’m a visual learner, and “OUR” use of video tapes has elevated “OUR” discussion to a more. in depth analysis. I’ve never had that before. (and I’ve spent quite a few hours listening to presentations on these topics). I feel better educated now (after viewing your content) Than I ever did after all the classroom hours I’ve had over the decades. Where I’ve spent valuable hours and substantial $$$ to attend. You’ve elevated my understanding of these critical topics to a level I’ve never had. It’s me that Thanks you.
@@ASPextra John on a different topic you had liked some of my comments and asked me to contact you as you had a gift. I wasn't able to understand HOW to contact you. Can you help me with that?
As a legal CCW carrier in Florida for over 20 years, I can honestly say the only good that is coming out of all these shootings, is I will definitely pull the gun first to stop the threat, not just pull and shoot. If it stops the threat, everyone goes home...If the threat continues and I am in fear for the life of myself or my family then it gets taken to the next level. I heard a quote that has stuck with me..."I would rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6". If I could tell anyone who wants to carry concealed...Please look up and understand "IMMINENT DANGER".
Sir, this particular series on the lecture could be your best work to date and you have a LOT of good work. I will be seeing yall in Manhattan if I can actually get the time off from work.
Good video.. I think this channel has , and will save someone from going to prison for using their weapon wrong.. I heard Someone say "dont use the gun to take a life, use it to save a life". And "if I dont use it im gonna die". These 2 sayings have been a huge help..
this video is absolutely a golden reality check about firearms. In my opinion, every citizen that carries, needs to know the law and understand situations like this. I have a ccw permit in NC. Call me what you want but I DON'T want un-knowledgeable "constitution carry" principles and laws to prevail. People who carry need to know the law and be at least minimally competent with their firearms. Same for automobiles. Just common sense.
I don’t know why most people don’t have common sense but guns are not for fighting, they are a choice of last resort period. Used when not needed, you will go to jail. I had a guy put one between my eyes because I was there when he was fighting with his girlfriend. My quick response of saying “that gun is going to put you in jail” made him put it down and leave. I hid and called 911. Crazy
The Florida case that John showed was egregious! That was murder, love this series and both his channels! Excellent advise always, besides his 9mm mistake lol
Every state should have this as a required watch before getting your concealed and carry license. Two reasons to use your firearm: (1) Protect your life; (2) Protect someone else's life.
Another way to think about if/if not: If prison is the result of you shooting, is that still preferable to not shooting? Ive been on a few juries and sometimes some of the people wind up not caring what the result is if the day is late... they will throw in with whatever the consensus is merely to get home by dinner. Its not a justice system, its a legal system. Even if you are 100% in the right its still a risk to be in court.
A good scenario to do is when /when not to shoot someone on the back. Idk why but going into my ccw class this question was on my mind. It feels horrible and cheap. As fate would hsve it my turn on the simulator had this exact scenario. In this scenario I am at the front desk . An employee gets into a heated fight with the boss, gets fired. He exists the building and returns with his pistol, points it at me then proceeds to walk down the hall towards the bosses office. As he begins to enter the office he raises his pistol and I let 3 go , all 3 to the back of his head. Again, even in this simulation it felt weird, dirty and wrong taking someone out in the back.. My instructor restarted this scenario to let it play out w/out intervention so we can discuss with the class. The aggressor/fired employee does the boss, and goes room to room doing 4 more people . I was absolutely shocked to hear my instructor say that , at least in his classes (been doing it for 20 years) most people refused to shoot the employee because they didnt want to shoot him in the back (which is exactly what this scenario was meant to teach us, sometimes you have to , if you dont lotsa lives are lost.
Unfortunately a system of laws meant to prevent criminals from claiming "self defense" has gone bad to the point that it prevents honest citizens from defending their lives, imposing upon them an unreasonable amount of requirements to fullfill for it to be "self defense", all in a split second, and an even more unreasonable amount of consequences. Roman law said "adgreditus non habet staderam in manu", "he who gets attacked does not have scales in his hand" meaning that the defender is not required to accurately weigh the amount of force he uses: the consequences of an unjust aggression are on the head of the aggressor, dire as they may be. We should go back to that. Now, before someone goes "Oh, and how would you consider the clip where...", I say it again: the DEFENDER. If you instigate an attack, you are not the defender.
That’s beyond shortsighted. Did you pay for their law degree? Their liability and E&O insurance? Their association fees? Their office space? Their assistants? Their legal docs and study memberships? The power bill? After all that, you think $50 an hour is reasonable? You don’t understand life.
@@ASPextra I am aware of all of that. I am also aware of the ability to extract more from those under duress. A given individual is in a horrific situation and needs someone to take care of a matter which shouldn't exist (assuming a good shoot scenario). They are now wrestling with a DA who hates those who defend themselves constitutionally. They are an average person with average resources. They now have to find exorbitant resources to simply remain free. That is wrong. All of those costs mentioned can be managed reasonably. How do you think the stereotypes came about? Hmm? $10K for a phone call... I agree with your training. I hope that those hoping to assist/serve with the "legal" system seek first to help those within the situation.
That's why there are public defenders. Thinking that a business owner is not allowed to set their rates based on their education, expertise, and experience is inane. You pay your mechanic $130 an hour now for working on your car. That's nowhere near as important, and nowhere near as expensive, and nowhere near as hard to do, as being a criminal defense attorney.
I live in WA and there was a wacko that was at a farm store and found someome that he wanted to stab and just started stabbing him. Luckily there was enough people that saw what was happening and took action and tackled his ass and started providing aid. Responding LE said they wished more people carried a weapon cause the victim or by stander could of legally dropped the attacker. Use of force is legal to prevent serious injury or death to yourself or others. The wacko said him and his mom were "treated like dogs" by whom we dont know. His criteria to attack was " a male with no wife and children with him that appeared to be able to hold their own in a attack" im 6 foot 2 ,300 pounds 40 inch waist and i was planning on going to that farm store but needed to stop at auto zone. While i was in the auto zone i saw 5 cops zoom up the street. Luckily i didn't go to the farm store otherwise i would of had to smoke the lunatic.
Ok I’m a lil confused about the punching example, like are you talking about someone just randomly punching you once then backing off & that’s it or what? Cuz even if they don’t have a gun on them they still assaulted you plus what if they don’t stop & start hitting you again as soon as you get back up, like how many times do you gotta get hit before it becomes justifiable to draw your weapon? I mean if someone’s trying to beat the shit outa you I feel like it should be justifiable to shoot them in that situation, I mean they already assaulted you so why would/should you assume that they’d only hit you once & then they’d just stop, unless they literally back off or walk away after sucker punching you for whatever reason, or what if they sucker punch you once & then they back up a lil bit & square up like they’re about to fight you, in that situation would drawing your weapon be justified? & just to be clear I’m only talking about drawing your gun to scare & make them back off, I’m not saying draw it to just start shooting
@@HaveMindWillThink ehh I kinda get what you mean homie , but idk how many people regularly carry pepper spray on them so I don’t consider that as a viable option for most people in that situation, & yee fighting back could work sometimes depending on who’s involved & if you know how to fight, but what could you do if the attacker is some huge roided out person who’s like 3~4x your size? Like if the victim is a very slender/petite woman/man who got punched by some jacked 300 pound jackass, Cuz if that’s the case unless they’re a professional trained fighter I don’t see that ending well either, & sure running away can be a good option if they don’t just end up chasing you down, but people who live in states with stand your ground laws wouldn’t have to run away from the threat, so in states that have those laws when would you be able to draw your weapon, like after they hit you the first time (assuming they don’t just run away immediately afterwards), Or would you have to wait until they seemed like they were going to attack you again?
@@ProfessorPerhaps Yes, disparity of force is a valid self defense scenario. Brandishing can be allowed in certain situations but it is all up to the prosecutor. So, if you have to draw, be sure it is to stop the threat of imminent harm or death.
As you said in an earlier video, and I believe is the case here in Florida, you cannot use deadly force for self defense if you are the instigator. Drejka initiated the confrontation, but with the girlfriend. Question; would Drejka have been able to successfully claim self defense if he'd shot McGlockton immediately after falling to the ground, even though he was the initial instigator? Or would this be considered a separate incident?
a push can be deadly. the man that shot just wanted to use words. just like he only used his words in the past when he encountered someone illegally parked. the man that was shot broke the law and brought deadly force to the situation in front of his 5 year old boy. Btw here are more examples of a "push" being deadly. ruclips.net/video/QpiT_DONQdQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/_tpWygOyeSA/видео.html
Great clip. Good info . You need to head to the north east coast and start campaigning your training. Supreme Court just opened the flood gates for NJ and NY. These people are desperately going to need your training. NJ Already has a bill ready for the governor to sign mandating training for new concealed carry permit holders.
How does one become an weapons instructor. I’m a 27 yr Marine Corps veteran currently living in NC that would love to be an instructor on weapons handling. Loved the video.
If you have a military career spanning that long, can probably just get a few basic NRA certs and then call it good. Everyone and their grandma recognizes the certs, combined with your background the only main challenge for you will be finding the right people to network with and work with.
"legal mistakes" only matter in a world where there is not a two tired Justice System, with Rules for Thee and Not for Me. Some states have consistent laws. Others don't. Sometimes it's a problem at the City level.
@@Joe-hu7di not shooting someone who is backing away or already on the ground with your lead in him should be common sense my friend. But I get it some people need to be taught this stuff. I live in Missouri (open carry state) and I choose not to carry untill I'm CCW because open carry in my opinion is not common sense either. Anyways there is my 2 cents, take care and stay safe
It’s Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton not Bill Paxton. Also in Texas if you’re cleared in a self-defensive use of deadly force you are cannot be held liable in civil court monetarily. One more thing, if you are a parent picking your chid up at your ex-wife or ex-husband you do not have a right to trespass on private property. What you do have is the law on your side with your divorce decree and custody order signed by a judge. You leave the property and call the police and wait. Texas has very favorable private property laws for property owners. Take yourself off the property and wait. If he had went to his pickup on the street (public property) and waited he’d be alive and his ex-wife would be held accountable for violating a court order.
Meanwhile I’ve got a buddy who’s a prohibited possessor that swears he can shoot someone who walks up and punches him square in the face with no provocation.
Punches can kill, more often than people believe. Fists are blunt force trauma. George Zimmerman. As a prohibited possessor he's going to get in trouble though. It will likely depend on the attacker (a 10 year old kid punches you vs a 210lbs tattooed ahole), if the attack is continuing (you can't shoot a guy who sucker punches you and runs away no matter how much he may deserve it for being a b!tch) and the political sympathies of the DA and Sherriff.
In the McMichael case.. Did he not tell the guy to stay put and wait for the police ? Did the kid that got killed not charge the man and grab the mans rifle which was not even pointing at him? Are you saying, If I believe a person is robbing my neighbor and I do call 911, can I not try and hold him there at gunpoint ? If I am holding him at gunpoint and he comes after me and attacks me, I cannot shoot ? The kid that got shot was the one who made first offensive violent contact.
@@ASPextra They only went as far as the house they thought was being robbed.. I do not call that pursuit... The kid would have to be running away from them to be a pursuit.. The kid actually charged towards the guy with the rifle... What part of that is not factually correct ? I may have my facts wrong.. I would have called it a confrontation not a pursuit and just like in the Brown case who was charging at the officer he was charging at the old guy with the rifle and grabbed it. Grabbing a gun from someone is a legal reason to use your weapon if you bellieve they are going to try and take it and kill you.
@@ASPextra This video clearly shows men chasing a tresspasser.. It also shows the victim was not charging towards the man with the shotgun... He was shot in the chest moving forward... How is this different that when the hands up dont shoot victim charged an officer and was shot. Both shot men were being chased, both charged a person who told them to stop... both were shot moving forward. There are no laws stoping you from chasing someone you saw trespassing into a neighbors house. ruclips.net/video/-nKf0TW-L1M/видео.html Yes he ran, as any common theif would, but he was not shot running away.
@@ASPextra They witnessed the tresspass.. it is on camera...they chased him and then the tresspasser charged the man with a rifle...Georgia’s Citizen’s Arrest Law allows people to arrest anyone that they’ve witnessed committing a crime in their presence or has immediate knowledge of the crime...
I was thinking the same thing. a push is far more deadly than popcorn. the fl man video was too clear and from the wrong angle. you cant really see how hard he was pushed. i think he would have stood (lol) a better chance of getting off if he didn't make disparaging comment in the past. I dont have a problem with some one getting shot for beating on an old person.
I explained how, in the video out of Florida. Assaulting a person over 65 in Florida is a forcible felony by law, and stopping a forcible felony with deadly force is permissible legally.
Popcorn guy was 79 years old, and in Florida a battery on a person over 65 (throwing popcorn is a battery) is automatically reclassified from a misdemeanor to a felony. Use of deadly force is permitted to prevent a felony assault. That's a big difference.
Great presentation! Massad Ayoob, the foremost authority on armed defense, has always preached that concealed carry permit owners are held to a higher standard of conduct. That means we don’t get drunk or high, stay out of sketchy areas we have no business in, don’t participate in road rage and walk away from insults. If you can’t behave, don’t carry.
Well spoken
Right on! And we should also know, as concealed carriers, that we should do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to deescalate a situation. Our speech, body language, etc., should be more on the meek side so we can avoid ever having to draw our weapon. After 22 years in the military and three wars, I've had enough death and destruction. I hope I NEVER have to draw my gun on another human being. There is most definitely a higher standard, as well as a higher expectation from the public, for those who carry guns. It may require choosing a new set of friends and a new set of hobbies, etc. Realize the gravity of carrying a deadly weapon on your person and act and think accordingly. Stay safe.
@@soujrnr it sounds like you haven't yet... well done!
@@IAMtsunade - I haven't done what yet?
In Tennessee it's illegal to carry and drink any alcohol.
Drejka also had a history of road rage incidents where he made threats and displayed his firearm. It’s really important to learn to control ego and emotions, especially if you’re a concealed carrier.
Yeah he was wrong it was a pepper spray kind of moment or a run moment being caught by surprise he shot him and it was murder terrible and that’s how fast prison comes
This is a MAJOR problem in a lot of sectors in the general gun community. Lot of dudes say "I hope I never have to use my gun", but a lot of them do a ton of rambling about how they are just ready to shoot anyone for reasons that will get them sent to prison they think otherwise makes them heros.
Rude awakenings really. Like he said, dude think they're tough but prison tends to break a lot of wannabes who think prison is a justified means to an end.
@@2real385 Yeah. Some people are incapable of mentally putting themselves in a situation and have zero idea what it's like to be in a situation like that. Keep that rape whistle and pepper spray handy. You'll be fine.
@@2real385 It was a "pull the gun" moment, that turned into a "don't shoot" moment, immediately.
That guy belongs in prison, harassing the mother of a man’s child and then killing him in front of his kid when he put him in your place. Along with his history of irresponsible gun use. Disgusting behavior that makes all carriers look bad
as someone who watches a lot of poorly edited videos of live events... I commend you for bumping the volume so we could hear what people are saying in the background!
Thanks! Sure tried to make it audible.
Sounded like a second "crowd" mic that was edited on and off as needed.
The normal ASP videos are fantastic, but this is content that can be put in front of people who are not predisposed to watching this type of content. Super useful. Thanks!
The first CCW class my wife and I took required us to attend a four hour module with an attorney that expressed to us what what happened after the trigger was pulled. It was very informative and eye-opening to the laws and the inner workings of our state at that time.
John is one of the most articulate and intelligent people I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching. I’m so glad he provides us with this content and that I’m watching this at such a young age and accumulating knowledge in this field. Huge fan, John. Thanks for what you do
Pretty cool he used to be a pastor!
After he said it it was super obvious! He’s got a knack of talking for long periods of time and keeping people’s attention.
8:28 "use it as a tool of last resort only when the alternative to using it is so heinous you can't live with it." I agree completely but the problem is in a situation like a mugging where you have to weigh between complying or counter attacking if you figure there is a less than 50% chance they won't hurt you if you comply. Or say you figure it's 20% (but you can't really know). You have to weigh the risk of getting killed against the risk of prison / losing the gunfight / going broke / PTSD, all in a split second. It's a tough decision.
If you're a concealed carrier, and you get mugged, the one thing you KNOW will happen is that the muggers will be armed with a real, loaded gun after they find yours AND you will be disarmed ... and they will be kind of angry that you had a gun on you.
You may feel that complying is OK before they find the gun, but the percentages change after they find your gun.
@@amcconnell6730 Good point.
Not really. Someone isn’t gonna mug you while they’re unarmed. Once someone asks your for your property with a weapon in their hand, it’s a green light. Any reasonable person would think they’re about to be killed for it.
@@nokiot9 Plenty of people get mugged by people with fake guns.
@@amcconnell6730 nowhere near the amount of people robbed with real weapons. you’re using an extreme outlier chance as a reason not to shoot? Unless it’s got a bright Orange cap any reasonable persona would assume it’s a real firearm.
The sad thing about the gas station incident is that had the guy not shot the " assualter" absolutely nothing would have been done and everybody knows it. That's why these people do this shit because short of somebody dying the cops ain't even showing up.
I've carried for more than 40 years and the number one thing I have found is people thinking they are the only person who has a gun.
Hmm - perhaps in your social group, but if that was the case for the general population there wouldn't be any robberies in Indiana.
@@amcconnell6730 Some of the people have a CCW but don't carry every day because of work or other constraints. Last time I checked it think it was around 65 to 70% of man had a CCW in Indiana. In my social group it's more like 95% including the ladies.
There are 1.1 million total licenses in IN and a population of 6.7 million. Those are great numbers but nowhere near “most of the men.”
In the next county over from my vacation house in Pennsylvania, over half of the adult population has carry permits. In those rural parts you can assume that every house has guns in it. Crime is very low.
Thanks John. I think this is the most overlooked aspect of concealed carry.
Holy moly! I am so glad you bring up the legal stuff. People love talking about what gun they'd use, how'd they'd fight someone but always neglect the legal stuff! Or even the pre-combat stuff.
Refreshing takes.
I appreciate you putting this content out for free. This speaks to your true motives which is to train people how to defend themselves well. Much thanks.
Great series... chock full of very helpful, useful content. Keep them coming, John!
Self defense insurance is a good investment.and not to bad in cost. the man who had to shoot in a Texas church years ago.while cut and dry and no charges pressed. It still cost over 50 grand after the fact. Carry insurance covered it.
i have never seen the full video of the florida case, only the push and then the shooting. Never saw the whole vid of the man stepping back, amazing change of events.
Great video series John! So helpful! I'm so grateful you decide to publish these for absolutely free! You are doing such a service!
John, great segment. Informative, engaging, well done.
Great topic and real world examples. This video should be on constant loop.
this guy's worth his weight it gold. Very important information. I see so often uneccesasry escalation from defenders.
About a hundred years ago, when I first started to shoot, my father, who taught me military style, told me the most important thing about owning a gun, "Once you pull the trigger, you cannot take it back" more over, "What ever you do, you will have to live with the fact that you took a persons life away from him, a parent away from a child, a child away from a parent, etc". These things you will live with for the rest of your life. So if you have to pull your weapon and discharge it, think about these things. If justified and no other recourse then that is one thing, but be sure there were no other courses you could have taken, at least given the circumstances at the moment and a moment may be all you have, but arm chair quarterbacks will be making the judgment.
Very good lesson taught here. Thank you for sharing.
This 14 min clip alone tells me I need to go to your “Boot Camp “ 🤯 TY
Loved this series, thanks for this John.
John, what a gift this was seeing your presentation. I’ve trained some, but people who understand gunfights, have not been able to teach me from such a broad knowledge base, OR in a way that is tailored to CC. Thank you very much.
Wow, thank you. I mean it. Made my day. :)
The truth is John; after I found CC 5 mistakes and you published the whole seminar for free, it was I who got the gift. And heres why: Your presentation is current, fast moving comprehensive FOR THE CCW guy. Most of the outstanding lectures I’ve had on this material were aimed at police or military; and not me. Also I guess I’m a visual learner, and “OUR” use of video tapes has elevated “OUR” discussion to a more. in depth analysis. I’ve never had that before. (and I’ve spent quite a few hours listening to presentations on these topics). I feel better educated now (after viewing your content) Than I ever did after all the classroom hours I’ve had over the decades. Where I’ve spent valuable hours and substantial $$$ to attend. You’ve elevated my understanding of these critical topics to a level I’ve never had. It’s me that Thanks you.
@@ASPextra John on a different topic you had liked some of my comments and asked me to contact you as you had a gift. I wasn't able to understand HOW to contact you. Can you help me with that?
Love theses videos I'm a concealed carrier good to know when to shoot and when not to this video was very helpful
As a legal CCW carrier in Florida for over 20 years, I can honestly say the only good that is coming out of all these shootings, is I will definitely pull the gun first to stop the threat, not just pull and shoot. If it stops the threat, everyone goes home...If the threat continues and I am in fear for the life of myself or my family then it gets taken to the next level. I heard a quote that has stuck with me..."I would rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6". If I could tell anyone who wants to carry concealed...Please look up and understand "IMMINENT DANGER".
That’s why you ALWAYS get gun insurance so you don’t have to worry about those fees
Great class! I'd attend.
Sir, this particular series on the lecture could be your best work to date and you have a LOT of good work. I will be seeing yall in Manhattan if I can actually get the time off from work.
Thank you so so very much for making this publicly available Mr.Correia. This is timeless and invaluable content.
Unreal this video is free. Amazing info
Good video.. I think this channel has , and will save someone from going to prison for using their weapon wrong.. I heard Someone say "dont use the gun to take a life, use it to save a life". And "if I dont use it im gonna die". These 2 sayings have been a huge help..
*Active Self Protection Extra* Good stuff, thank-you sir for taking the time to bring us along. God Bless.
Great video
As far as I'm concerned, anyone that comes at you with a gun has automatically forfeited any right to their own life at that point!
I like what James Yeager says; Don’t shoot to take a life. Only shoot to save a life.
Great instructor!
7:00 mark convinced me to get uscca membership
this video is absolutely a golden reality check about firearms. In my opinion, every citizen that carries, needs to know the law and understand situations like this. I have a ccw permit in NC. Call me what you want but I DON'T want un-knowledgeable "constitution carry" principles and laws to prevail. People who carry need to know the law and be at least minimally competent with their firearms. Same for automobiles. Just common sense.
I love constitutional carry and think drivers licenses are unconstitutional infringements.
I don’t know why most people don’t have common sense but guns are not for fighting, they are a choice of last resort period. Used when not needed, you will go to jail. I had a guy put one between my eyes because I was there when he was fighting with his girlfriend. My quick response of saying “that gun is going to put you in jail” made him put it down and leave. I hid and called 911. Crazy
Very informative. Thanks for sharing this with us. Should be mandatory for all gun owners.
Great series - thank you!
You're very welcome!
Great presentation...
Excellent video…… Well described by a lot of examples. God bless.
Amazing content. It was very helpful.
"NEVER...ALL ALLEGED..." lolol
The Florida case that John showed was egregious! That was murder, love this series and both his channels! Excellent advise always, besides his 9mm mistake lol
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Excellent presentation, lots of real life wisdom.
20k for a retainer I had in 2007; it played out well though, he got it solved with a few phone calls … prices have obviously jumped since than
Every state should have this as a required watch before getting your concealed and carry license. Two reasons to use your firearm: (1) Protect your life; (2) Protect someone else's life.
Another way to think about if/if not:
If prison is the result of you shooting, is that still preferable to not shooting?
Ive been on a few juries and sometimes some of the people wind up not caring what the result is if the day is late... they will throw in with whatever the consensus is merely to get home by dinner. Its not a justice system, its a legal system. Even if you are 100% in the right its still a risk to be in court.
Excellent stuff all concealed carriers should consider. A tool of last resort.
You convinced me to get pepper spray.
A good scenario to do is when /when not to shoot someone on the back. Idk why but going into my ccw class this question was on my mind.
It feels horrible and cheap. As fate would hsve it my turn on the simulator had this exact scenario. In this scenario I am at the front desk . An employee gets into a heated fight with the boss, gets fired. He exists the building and returns with his pistol, points it at me then proceeds to walk down the hall towards the bosses office. As he begins to enter the office he raises his pistol and I let 3 go , all 3 to the back of his head. Again, even in this simulation it felt weird, dirty and wrong taking someone out in the back.. My instructor restarted this scenario to let it play out w/out intervention so we can discuss with the class. The aggressor/fired employee does the boss, and goes room to room doing 4 more people .
I was absolutely shocked to hear my instructor say that , at least in his classes (been doing it for 20 years) most people refused to shoot the employee because they didnt want to shoot him in the back (which is exactly what this scenario was meant to teach us, sometimes you have to , if you dont lotsa lives are lost.
Good solid advice.
Your best video to date in my opinion, just sayin.......much appreciated.
Great knowledge , First time watching the extra very good , a different way of learning
favorite channel god bless you guys!
Glad you appreciate what we do!
You are doing God’s work sir.
Unfortunately a system of laws meant to prevent criminals from claiming "self defense" has gone bad to the point that it prevents honest citizens from defending their lives, imposing upon them an unreasonable amount of requirements to fullfill for it to be "self defense", all in a split second, and an even more unreasonable amount of consequences.
Roman law said "adgreditus non habet staderam in manu", "he who gets attacked does not have scales in his hand" meaning that the defender is not required to accurately weigh the amount of force he uses: the consequences of an unjust aggression are on the head of the aggressor, dire as they may be.
We should go back to that.
Now, before someone goes "Oh, and how would you consider the clip where...", I say it again: the DEFENDER. If you instigate an attack, you are not the defender.
It’s a pretty simple standard, really. So overcomplicating it isn’t helpful. And the Romans did a lot of things I wouldn’t want to emulate.
The attorney portion is sick and evil. 20-50 and hour is more than enough.
That’s beyond shortsighted. Did you pay for their law degree? Their liability and E&O insurance? Their association fees? Their office space? Their assistants? Their legal docs and study memberships? The power bill?
After all that, you think $50 an hour is reasonable? You don’t understand life.
@@ASPextra I am aware of all of that. I am also aware of the ability to extract more from those under duress.
A given individual is in a horrific situation and needs someone to take care of a matter which shouldn't exist (assuming a good shoot scenario). They are now wrestling with a DA who hates those who defend themselves constitutionally. They are an average person with average resources. They now have to find exorbitant resources to simply remain free.
That is wrong.
All of those costs mentioned can be managed reasonably. How do you think the stereotypes came about? Hmm? $10K for a phone call...
I agree with your training. I hope that those hoping to assist/serve with the "legal" system seek first to help those within the situation.
That's why there are public defenders. Thinking that a business owner is not allowed to set their rates based on their education, expertise, and experience is inane. You pay your mechanic $130 an hour now for working on your car. That's nowhere near as important, and nowhere near as expensive, and nowhere near as hard to do, as being a criminal defense attorney.
What about shooting someone who is attacking someone else?
Is it only ok if you're defending a cop?
I really can't wait to see these answers.
I live in WA and there was a wacko that was at a farm store and found someome that he wanted to stab and just started stabbing him. Luckily there was enough people that saw what was happening and took action and tackled his ass and started providing aid. Responding LE said they wished more people carried a weapon cause the victim or by stander could of legally dropped the attacker. Use of force is legal to prevent serious injury or death to yourself or others. The wacko said him and his mom were "treated like dogs" by whom we dont know. His criteria to attack was " a male with no wife and children with him that appeared to be able to hold their own in a attack" im 6 foot 2 ,300 pounds 40 inch waist and i was planning on going to that farm store but needed to stop at auto zone. While i was in the auto zone i saw 5 cops zoom up the street. Luckily i didn't go to the farm store otherwise i would of had to smoke the lunatic.
Was this in Pasco 👀
@@piouswhale Vancouver WA
Actually, that quote is: "I hope you like the taste of prison food and..."
Ok I’m a lil confused about the punching example, like are you talking about someone just randomly punching you once then backing off & that’s it or what? Cuz even if they don’t have a gun on them they still assaulted you plus what if they don’t stop & start hitting you again as soon as you get back up, like how many times do you gotta get hit before it becomes justifiable to draw your weapon? I mean if someone’s trying to beat the shit outa you I feel like it should be justifiable to shoot them in that situation, I mean they already assaulted you so why would/should you assume that they’d only hit you once & then they’d just stop, unless they literally back off or walk away after sucker punching you for whatever reason,
or what if they sucker punch you once & then they back up a lil bit & square up like they’re about to fight you, in that situation would drawing your weapon be justified? & just to be clear I’m only talking about drawing your gun to scare & make them back off, I’m not saying draw it to just start shooting
@@HaveMindWillThink ehh I kinda get what you mean homie , but idk how many people regularly carry pepper spray on them so I don’t consider that as a viable option for most people in that situation,
& yee fighting back could work sometimes depending on who’s involved & if you know how to fight, but what could you do if the attacker is some huge roided out person who’s like 3~4x your size? Like if the victim is a very slender/petite woman/man who got punched by some jacked 300 pound jackass, Cuz if that’s the case unless they’re a professional trained fighter I don’t see that ending well either,
& sure running away can be a good option if they don’t just end up chasing you down, but people who live in states with stand your ground laws wouldn’t have to run away from the threat, so in states that have those laws when would you be able to draw your weapon, like after they hit you the first time (assuming they don’t just run away immediately afterwards), Or would you have to wait until they seemed like they were going to attack you again?
@@ProfessorPerhaps Yes, disparity of force is a valid self defense scenario. Brandishing can be allowed in certain situations but it is all up to the prosecutor. So, if you have to draw, be sure it is to stop the threat of imminent harm or death.
Can I....yes but dont should I....yes but dont ... must I.... yes as the hammer drops
As you said in an earlier video, and I believe is the case here in Florida, you cannot use deadly force for self defense if you are the instigator. Drejka initiated the confrontation, but with the girlfriend. Question; would Drejka have been able to successfully claim self defense if he'd shot McGlockton immediately after falling to the ground, even though he was the initial instigator? Or would this be considered a separate incident?
"I'm trying to tell you to use it as a last resort"
Yeah bring pepper spray, nothing like my 9
The guy getting pushed started the altercation also.
a push can be deadly. the man that shot just wanted to use words. just like he only used his words in the past when he encountered someone illegally parked. the man that was shot broke the law and brought deadly force to the situation in front of his 5 year old boy. Btw here are more examples of a "push" being deadly. ruclips.net/video/QpiT_DONQdQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/_tpWygOyeSA/видео.html
two warnings I had to click through
Should I use deadly force if someone attacks me, the reason I ask is that I have had an open heart double bypass and I'm not as strong as I used to be
@11:40 If he would have drawn his firearm & NOT shot it, to ensure that he wasn't attacked further, would that have been illegal?
No, I think if he had drawn and pointed it he would not be facing charges and McGlockton would have been charged with assault.
Great clip. Good info . You need to head to the north east coast and start campaigning your training. Supreme Court just opened the flood gates for NJ and NY. These people are desperately going to need your training. NJ Already has a bill ready for the governor to sign mandating training for new concealed carry permit holders.
I from jersey and unless they changed laws in the last few years it's super hard to get a ccw
@@juansantiago6635 Supreme Court killed Ny restrictions. Check the local news about gun laws.
How does one become an weapons instructor. I’m a 27 yr Marine Corps veteran currently living in NC that would love to be an instructor on weapons handling.
Loved the video.
If you have a military career spanning that long, can probably just get a few basic NRA certs and then call it good. Everyone and their grandma recognizes the certs, combined with your background the only main challenge for you will be finding the right people to network with and work with.
"legal mistakes" only matter in a world where there is not a two tired Justice System, with Rules for Thee and Not for Me.
Some states have consistent laws. Others don't. Sometimes it's a problem at the City level.
The legal issues almost make me want to avoid being a gun owner. It’s ridiculous.
Guilty mind not evil mind
There need to be a lot more focus on deescalation training in the carry community, than there is.
What bung hole got this removed?
Honestly this is sad that people need to be told any of this. This is just common sense and being a decent human
@@Joe-hu7di thanks Joe
@@Joe-hu7di not shooting someone who is backing away or already on the ground with your lead in him should be common sense my friend. But I get it some people need to be taught this stuff. I live in Missouri (open carry state) and I choose not to carry untill I'm CCW because open carry in my opinion is not common sense either. Anyways there is my 2 cents, take care and stay safe
It’s Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton not Bill Paxton. Also in Texas if you’re cleared in a self-defensive use of deadly force you are cannot be held liable in civil court monetarily. One more thing, if you are a parent picking your chid up at your ex-wife or ex-husband you do not have a right to trespass on private property. What you do have is the law on your side with your divorce decree and custody order signed by a judge. You leave the property and call the police and wait. Texas has very favorable private property laws for property owners. Take yourself off the property and wait. If he had went to his pickup on the street (public property) and waited he’d be alive and his ex-wife would be held accountable for violating a court order.
thank you for your input
When I clicked on this video I got the message “The RUclips community finds this video offensive” or words close to that. Makes my blood boil.
Wow lots of learning
Mom took me to the State Pen. . . I knew i never wanted to end up there after that. i was 16. 50 and i have a clean record.
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Meanwhile I’ve got a buddy who’s a prohibited possessor that swears he can shoot someone who walks up and punches him square in the face with no provocation.
Punches can kill, more often than people believe. Fists are blunt force trauma. George Zimmerman. As a prohibited possessor he's going to get in trouble though. It will likely depend on the attacker (a 10 year old kid punches you vs a 210lbs tattooed ahole), if the attack is continuing (you can't shoot a guy who sucker punches you and runs away no matter how much he may deserve it for being a b!tch) and the political sympathies of the DA and Sherriff.
Hmm 🤔
@@HaveMindWillThink he just thinks he can kill for simple assault and I’ve told him otherwise. But some ppl just don’t know what they don’t know.
you know what else sucks about prison? getting out and having a felony record and trying to get a job. life is never the same afterward.
Big facts.
I never saw anybody😏
In the McMichael case.. Did he not tell the guy to stay put and wait for the police ? Did the kid that got killed not charge the man and grab the mans rifle which was not even pointing at him? Are you saying, If I believe a person is robbing my neighbor and I do call 911, can I not try and hold him there at gunpoint ? If I am holding him at gunpoint and he comes after me and attacks me, I cannot shoot ? The kid that got shot was the one who made first offensive violent contact.
Your narrative fits none of the facts. It was murder. Pursuit is not defense.
@@ASPextra They only went as far as the house they thought was being robbed.. I do not call that pursuit... The kid would have to be running away from them to be a pursuit.. The kid actually charged towards the guy with the rifle... What part of that is not factually correct ? I may have my facts wrong.. I would have called it a confrontation not a pursuit and just like in the Brown case who was charging at the officer he was charging at the old guy with the rifle and grabbed it. Grabbing a gun from someone is a legal reason to use your weapon if you bellieve they are going to try and take it and kill you.
You're wrong. He ran from them for something like 4 minutes. You CLEARLY didn't watch the trial.
@@ASPextra This video clearly shows men chasing a tresspasser.. It also shows the victim was not charging towards the man with the shotgun... He was shot in the chest moving forward... How is this different that when the hands up dont shoot victim charged an officer and was shot. Both shot men were being chased, both charged a person who told them to stop... both were shot moving forward. There are no laws stoping you from chasing someone you saw trespassing into a neighbors house.
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Yes he ran, as any common theif would, but he was not shot running away.
@@ASPextra They witnessed the tresspass.. it is on camera...they chased him and then the tresspasser charged the man with a rifle...Georgia’s Citizen’s Arrest Law allows people to arrest anyone that they’ve witnessed committing a crime in their presence or has immediate knowledge of the crime...
I'm a gun owner, but I have zero desire to carry it anywhere other than the gun range.
I thought number 1 would be dying
Supreme court said police cannot use deadly force on a suspect only because they are fleeing.
Finnaly here on the second channel
What if you see two people beating someone up. Would that be justified?
Maybe. Too many variables to say.
@@ASPextra I subbed for all the amazing knowledge.
My biggest mistake is having no gun , yet.
How does this Florida guy get convicted and the guy the other day that got popcorn thrown at him and killed the guy get away with it
The guy that was acquitted was a retired cop over 65. Come on man
What was the "popcorn" guy charged with, murder or manslaughter? If murder then that could've been the difference
I was thinking the same thing. a push is far more deadly than popcorn. the fl man video was too clear and from the wrong angle. you cant really see how hard he was pushed. i think he would have stood (lol) a better chance of getting off if he didn't make disparaging comment in the past. I dont have a problem with some one getting shot for beating on an old person.
I explained how, in the video out of Florida. Assaulting a person over 65 in Florida is a forcible felony by law, and stopping a forcible felony with deadly force is permissible legally.
Popcorn guy was 79 years old, and in Florida a battery on a person over 65 (throwing popcorn is a battery) is automatically reclassified from a misdemeanor to a felony. Use of deadly force is permitted to prevent a felony assault. That's a big difference.
Wonder if you're a senior citizen are you supposed to wait until that person's pummeling you before you can use your gun ?
come on buddy
Known medical frailty is a thing but highly individual.
Our system is fucked..it's up to the state I guess.. good guidelines tho
But... the cops chase you even if you don't have a weapon and they shoot you?
Pplleeaasseeee.
What next ...defund the police ?
“A tool of last resort.” That’s how I explain it to family members that carry.