That is the most valid criticism (if you wanna call it that) of Taeyeon. That calm, introverted, humble nature of hers does translate onto the stage and if you know her you notice but you expect it, accept it, and love it on her and it makes it that more exciting when you see her kinda pop off and feel herself prime example the RDR performance at 2011 concert but first impressions can be hit or miss because of it. That’s my girl forever though she just does it for me ❤
His point about the feeling of lack of urgency is so funny when you know that Taeyeon literally means "calm" XD I can see where he's coming from though. There are performers that click for some and don't for others. That's the beauty of art :) To paraphrase Taeyeon from her recent Harper's Bazaar interview (may 2023): "It's a continuous process of convincing the public with her music"
This is so true. I love her Gravity performance especially since she seems so relaxed. I always feel like Taeyeon is living in the story of the song she's singing which always draws me in. Funnily enough I don't get that from Ariana majority of the time, for instance. She always seems disconnected to me but that's not the case for others. I can appreciate her vocals though. Now Taeyeon does have her moments of disconnection where I can tell she's not fully comfortable like during some SM stages but during her solo concerts it's so different. Different strokes for different folks.
I agree with Jake's opinion during the Gravity performance . You can definitely tell and feel it when Taeyeon is truly experiencing and feeling the song/performance, but there are stages where she isn't and the performances video here are one of them I have cried though multiple times from her other emotional performances, so when i watch the other stages where it felt like she wasn't fully feeling it, thus affecting her stage presence, i still like it because of her voice and she is my ult 😆
„Lack of urgency“ 😂 Well, that is actually put in a kind but somehow accurate way. If you watch e.g. the Step Back video version with the constant camera focus on Taeyeon you notice how she dials up and down the energy depending on if she is the focus or not (which is valid, orchestra musicians also relax a bit when they accompany or have a break). But still there is some kind of Teayeon‘s movements in general maybe being not as punchy as other artists. But in my opinion it’s one of her endearing traits that she pulls you in slowly with her quiet confidence & elegance. If her personality and her music are your cup of tea she can make you a bit crazy over time like a siren luring you in 😊 But tastes vary and Jake said everything so respectful. Nice video.
Yeah, hearing Taeyeon's live then going to hear the record version is like going backwards when it comes to quality. Like live instruments just hit different plus the arrangements mostly were different (and improved) might be because the concert director have a vision different from the album/song producer. Too bad SM just refuse to release a live album version or do a bare minimum job when it comes to Taeyeon.
When it comes to Taeyeon... idc her WHY album WILL FOREVER be her best album for me honey.. NO SKIPS.. ALL BOPS! I play that shit to this day straight through!🥲🥲🥲
Whenever Jake is on it feels like an event! He's so right about the Ariana Grande influence in K-pop but it's way more extreme in SM. You can even pinpoint the change in say Girls Generation's music after she got big. SM heard Ariana's The Way and bought a dozen songs that sound like that. Red Velvet debuted after her so they started with that sound already. I'd love to see Jake react to more girl groups! 2NE1 would be really interesting for him to kind of see more 2nd gen and maybe some BoA solo. But I'm curious what he thinks about NewJeans too based on what he said about Taeyeon's laid back performance style.
Ooo that’s interesting regarding the way and yes I had added 2NE1 to the list and he has seen new jeans cos he like omg and ditto already from my insta stories. Coming soon!
Lmaooooo not Hunger Games, Jake!! He's so right tho, bc who do you even look at fr?? Esp if you dont listen to kpop normally and you don't know who is who. Btw this star quality convo is making me think of Kandy Muse on S13 of Drag Race hahahaha.
I don't see what you are missing from Taeyeon… You evidently want something different from a singer than I do, because, to me, Taeyeon is the ideal. Sorry, since you and me are looking for different things I definitely won't be following you. Steve P.
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That is the most valid criticism (if you wanna call it that) of Taeyeon. That calm, introverted, humble nature of hers does translate onto the stage and if you know her you notice but you expect it, accept it, and love it on her and it makes it that more exciting when you see her kinda pop off and feel herself prime example the RDR performance at 2011 concert but first impressions can be hit or miss because of it. That’s my girl forever though she just does it for me ❤
His point about the feeling of lack of urgency is so funny when you know that Taeyeon literally means "calm" XD I can see where he's coming from though. There are performers that click for some and don't for others. That's the beauty of art :) To paraphrase Taeyeon from her recent Harper's Bazaar interview (may 2023): "It's a continuous process of convincing the public with her music"
This is so true. I love her Gravity performance especially since she seems so relaxed. I always feel like Taeyeon is living in the story of the song she's singing which always draws me in. Funnily enough I don't get that from Ariana majority of the time, for instance. She always seems disconnected to me but that's not the case for others. I can appreciate her vocals though.
Now Taeyeon does have her moments of disconnection where I can tell she's not fully comfortable like during some SM stages but during her solo concerts it's so different. Different strokes for different folks.
When i tell you taeyeon has the best discography outta all the kpop female soloist. I freakin mean it. SHE IS THAT QUEEN.
I agree with Jake's opinion during the Gravity performance . You can definitely tell and feel it when Taeyeon is truly experiencing and feeling the song/performance, but there are stages where she isn't and the performances video here are one of them
I have cried though multiple times from her other emotional performances, so when i watch the other stages where it felt like she wasn't fully feeling it, thus affecting her stage presence, i still like it because of her voice and she is my ult 😆
„Lack of urgency“ 😂 Well, that is actually put in a kind but somehow accurate way. If you watch e.g. the Step Back video version with the constant camera focus on Taeyeon you notice how she dials up and down the energy depending on if she is the focus or not (which is valid, orchestra musicians also relax a bit when they accompany or have a break). But still there is some kind of Teayeon‘s movements in general maybe being not as punchy as other artists. But in my opinion it’s one of her endearing traits that she pulls you in slowly with her quiet confidence & elegance. If her personality and her music are your cup of tea she can make you a bit crazy over time like a siren luring you in 😊
But tastes vary and Jake said everything so respectful. Nice video.
Agreed! She pulls you in the more you get used to her nonchalance!
Yeah, hearing Taeyeon's live then going to hear the record version is like going backwards when it comes to quality. Like live instruments just hit different plus the arrangements mostly were different (and improved) might be because the concert director have a vision different from the album/song producer. Too bad SM just refuse to release a live album version or do a bare minimum job when it comes to Taeyeon.
My god a live album would be AMAZINGG!
I love Jake! I love his thoughts and questions si much❤ my king Taeyeon 👑
When it comes to Taeyeon... idc her WHY album WILL FOREVER be her best album for me honey.. NO SKIPS.. ALL BOPS! I play that shit to this day straight through!🥲🥲🥲
cant believe they talked over the best part of INVU
Yeah I would have preferred if they had just paused the MV to talk
he’s so…
that just shows how UNINTERESTED he was ..
Omg amo a Taeyeon 😊❤
do you mind showing them "Fiine" live?? it's from the same concert and tayeon sings her HEART out in that
I showed him UR and he DIED!! Coming soon
We need that vibe song list like: four seasons, baram x 3 and feel so fine
I love Jake's humour so much
Whenever Jake is on it feels like an event! He's so right about the Ariana Grande influence in K-pop but it's way more extreme in SM. You can even pinpoint the change in say Girls Generation's music after she got big. SM heard Ariana's The Way and bought a dozen songs that sound like that. Red Velvet debuted after her so they started with that sound already.
I'd love to see Jake react to more girl groups! 2NE1 would be really interesting for him to kind of see more 2nd gen and maybe some BoA solo. But I'm curious what he thinks about NewJeans too based on what he said about Taeyeon's laid back performance style.
Ooo that’s interesting regarding the way and yes I had added 2NE1 to the list and he has seen new jeans cos he like omg and ditto already from my insta stories. Coming soon!
@@Koko3op yes you've probably heard SNSD's Bump It but there are a bunch of others including the solo albums. Seohyun's especially sounds very Ariana.
YESSS WE LOVE JAKE
You should introduce Ailee to him. He will love her performance
Oh here’s my guy! 😂
Lmaooooo not Hunger Games, Jake!! He's so right tho, bc who do you even look at fr?? Esp if you dont listen to kpop normally and you don't know who is who. Btw this star quality convo is making me think of Kandy Muse on S13 of Drag Race hahahaha.
show him the can’t control myself mv or something new mv 😁
i think jake would rlly enjoy chungha!
Good point!
I would think they’re eccentric but not a crackhead 😂
oh i loveeee him
I know Taeyeon but who is Jake btw?? Anyhow my Girl is still conveying and performing her arts through singing!
My friend, does that help?
Chill, u ain’t the fan you think you are
I don't see what you are missing from Taeyeon… You evidently want something different from a singer than I do, because, to me, Taeyeon is the ideal. Sorry, since you and me are looking for different things I definitely won't be following you.
Steve P.