Great video, as usual! Now that this feature has been moved to the graphic overrides section in v21, I wonder if you could do another video showing these same override fill display rules in the current version?!?!
First off, thanks for all the great tips. I have 2 questions for this video. 1- I follow this step by step but my int elev always has a second heavy line...and it is where the int elev box in plan ends, so in the middle of the wall as I follow you here. How do I get rid of that? 2 - How can I hide the red dashed lines in plan and just show the int elev marker?
Glad you like the videos. So to answer your questions: 1 - Under the Interior Elevation selection settings, go to model display, and change boundary contours to "no contours" 2 - go to the view menu, on screen view options, and turn off marker range
Shoegnome Thanks! Simple, if you remember where to look, ha! On #1, I still have lines extending at flr and clg. Forgot to say using AC15. Off this subject, what mouse do you use?
Can you share an image of the offending interior elevation? I'm wondering if it's an element you're seeing rather than a remnant of the tool? If I can't figure it out from there, I bet if you sent me the file I could tell you in a few seconds what's going on. If you're okay with that route, we could just jump to that. My e-mail is jared @ shoegnome . com I use a shitty old Logitech mouse that's probably 10 years old (2 button + scroll wheel). I accidentally took it home with me one day from an old job I'd left, and since it works I just keep using it!
Jared, excellent video! Quick question, at 7:53 in the video the outside of your wall shows the siding as clapboard. How is this achieved with Archicad? thanks
Awesome question and good catch. It's a complex profile. I sort of mention the technique here: www.shoegnome.com/2011/06/26/invisible-beams-aka-rookie-mistake-aka-expert-trick/ But I don't think I've ever formally talked about it. I'll correct that and record a video next week on that topic. Because it's awesome and I've used it on every project I've done for the past few years. Basically wrap the building in a complex profile and then add empty openings for the windows. It seems complex but isn't.
Also these two posts make give some hints: blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-education/tips-and-tricks/the-master-complex-profile (you can see an image containing the lap siding profile) blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-user/doing-residential-design-this-monday-we-have-answers-for-you (this post talks about something similar).
Nice vid, I have a question....how did you build your walls? Did you use Profile Manager to create your wall linings and skirting to a custom wall, or is the wall a composite with lining and the skirting is another element?...I am using ArchiCAD 22 and it seems that there is always a second cut line at the extent of the elevation marker in a custom wall rather than none in a single wall or composite wall. I would like to know the marking settings and graphic override settings to achieve your pretty interior elevations...thanks
Sorry for the slow reply, I've been on vacation. Download my template (it's free if you want it to be) and check out the settings there: www.shoegnome.com/template/ They'll give you all the details you need for matching how I handle the graphics. I use a Composite Wall for the main structural wall then add beams and or secondary complex profile walls for trim, baseboard, siding, skirts, etc. Graphic Overrides, MVO, and pens solve the cut line issue. I've also moved away from line weights in general as most line weight issues are self inflicted. Also search some of my old posts here for more on automating the graphics: blog.graphisoftus.com/author/jared
Make the Interior Elevation go just above the top of the sloping ceiling. Then if you follow the techniques described in the video above, it should all work out. Worst case you have to do a little bit of masking to hide what's above parts of the slope. The Interior Elevation tool can't do a sloped side so the view will always be rectangular.
When drawing an interior elevation where you have removed a window (renovation filter demo) and new windows. I see the outline of the patch in the wall where new wall was added where the window was removed. Is there a way to get rid of this in the interior elevations without effecting the floor plans? I know I could draw a white fill over it, but is there another way?
+pwgarch Change the renovation filter of the interior elevation so that Demo is hidden and both Existing and New aren't overridden in anyway. Then the line will vanish. If you need other existing to be overridden then do a quick mask. Here's two posts that are relevant: blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-education/tips-and-tricks/its-not-cheating-if-its-just-graphic-data-fixes (for a quick fix) blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-15/does-that-still-not-work-is-this-still-the-best-solution (newer thoughts on interior elevations) I also believe in leaving the line and noting it because the line is correct: there is something happening there in the interior elevation.
+Shoegnome, One follow up question to this video, I understand you set a Model View Option for interior elevations, but there is also something under "model Display" (in AC 19) that seems to effect the cut lines. Under "Cut Elements" the first line is "Hide Cut Elements". I can't seem to get rid of the floor slabs and keep the cabinet cut lines. What am I doing wrong?
+pwgarch Hide Cut Elements hides elements that are cut. I'm not sure why anyone would ever actually click that option. So it's not what you are looking for. To get rid of lines in the floor slab, you need to set the bottom of the interior elevation to just below the top of the floor and/or change the model view options to remove the separater lines in composites.
How do you deal with the intersection of vertical door casing and complex profile baseboard? I keep having a problem where the Casing actually overlaps the baseboard because ArchiCAD complex profiles assume that the outside of the baseboard is the outside edge of the wall, and then places the door accordingly? I moved the complex profile so that the origin x thing was aligned with the outside edge of the gyp board and that didn't change anything either. I moved the blue "stretch" guidelines and that didn't seem to change anything either.
I think you'll need to do the baseboard separate from the stud wall. Which has lots of other advantages. If you do it as a beam, it can slant along stairs. The baseboard can start and stop and wrap around walls, etc.
Shoegnome Thanks. After many hours of searching for a cooler way to do this I came to the same conclusion. I just needed some comfort in knowing I didn't miss something obvious. Haven't tried your template yet but plan to soon. :) Take care.
Great video, as usual! Now that this feature has been moved to the graphic overrides section in v21, I wonder if you could do another video showing these same override fill display rules in the current version?!?!
Yes! That has been on my to do list for awhile. I'll try to make that one of the next quick videos I do.
First off, thanks for all the great tips. I have 2 questions for this video. 1- I follow this step by step but my int elev always has a second heavy line...and it is where the int elev box in plan ends, so in the middle of the wall as I follow you here. How do I get rid of that? 2 - How can I hide the red dashed lines in plan and just show the int elev marker?
Glad you like the videos. So to answer your questions:
1 - Under the Interior Elevation selection settings, go to model display, and change boundary contours to "no contours"
2 - go to the view menu, on screen view options, and turn off marker range
Shoegnome Thanks! Simple, if you remember where to look, ha! On #1, I still have lines extending at flr and clg. Forgot to say using AC15. Off this subject, what mouse do you use?
Can you share an image of the offending interior elevation? I'm wondering if it's an element you're seeing rather than a remnant of the tool? If I can't figure it out from there, I bet if you sent me the file I could tell you in a few seconds what's going on. If you're okay with that route, we could just jump to that. My e-mail is jared @ shoegnome . com
I use a shitty old Logitech mouse that's probably 10 years old (2 button + scroll wheel). I accidentally took it home with me one day from an old job I'd left, and since it works I just keep using it!
Jared, excellent video! Quick question, at 7:53 in the video the outside of your wall
shows the siding as clapboard. How is this achieved with Archicad?
thanks
Awesome question and good catch. It's a complex profile. I sort of mention the technique here: www.shoegnome.com/2011/06/26/invisible-beams-aka-rookie-mistake-aka-expert-trick/ But I don't think I've ever formally talked about it. I'll correct that and record a video next week on that topic. Because it's awesome and I've used it on every project I've done for the past few years.
Basically wrap the building in a complex profile and then add empty openings for the windows. It seems complex but isn't.
Also these two posts make give some hints:
blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-education/tips-and-tricks/the-master-complex-profile
(you can see an image containing the lap siding profile)
blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-user/doing-residential-design-this-monday-we-have-answers-for-you
(this post talks about something similar).
Shoegnome Thanks a ton! This is really thinking outside the box. The image of your house with just plywood is very cool!
Nice vid, I have a question....how did you build your walls? Did you use Profile Manager to create your wall linings and skirting to a custom wall, or is the wall a composite with lining and the skirting is another element?...I am using ArchiCAD 22 and it seems that there is always a second cut line at the extent of the elevation marker in a custom wall rather than none in a single wall or composite wall. I would like to know the marking settings and graphic override settings to achieve your pretty interior elevations...thanks
Sorry for the slow reply, I've been on vacation. Download my template (it's free if you want it to be) and check out the settings there: www.shoegnome.com/template/ They'll give you all the details you need for matching how I handle the graphics. I use a Composite Wall for the main structural wall then add beams and or secondary complex profile walls for trim, baseboard, siding, skirts, etc. Graphic Overrides, MVO, and pens solve the cut line issue. I've also moved away from line weights in general as most line weight issues are self inflicted. Also search some of my old posts here for more on automating the graphics: blog.graphisoftus.com/author/jared
What's the best way to deal with a sloping ceiling with the interior Elevation tool? I don't see a setting for that so I'm assuming perhaps an SEO?
Make the Interior Elevation go just above the top of the sloping ceiling. Then if you follow the techniques described in the video above, it should all work out. Worst case you have to do a little bit of masking to hide what's above parts of the slope. The Interior Elevation tool can't do a sloped side so the view will always be rectangular.
When drawing an interior elevation where you have removed a window (renovation filter demo) and new windows. I see the outline of the patch in the wall where new wall was added where the window was removed. Is there a way to get rid of this in the interior elevations without effecting the floor plans? I know I could draw a white fill over it, but is there another way?
+pwgarch Change the renovation filter of the interior elevation so that Demo is hidden and both Existing and New aren't overridden in anyway. Then the line will vanish. If you need other existing to be overridden then do a quick mask.
Here's two posts that are relevant:
blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-education/tips-and-tricks/its-not-cheating-if-its-just-graphic-data-fixes (for a quick fix)
blog.graphisoftus.com/archicad-15/does-that-still-not-work-is-this-still-the-best-solution (newer thoughts on interior elevations)
I also believe in leaving the line and noting it because the line is correct: there is something happening there in the interior elevation.
+Shoegnome, One follow up question to this video, I understand you set a Model View Option for interior elevations, but there is also something under "model Display" (in AC 19) that seems to effect the cut lines. Under "Cut Elements" the first line is "Hide Cut Elements". I can't seem to get rid of the floor slabs and keep the cabinet cut lines. What am I doing wrong?
+pwgarch Hide Cut Elements hides elements that are cut. I'm not sure why anyone would ever actually click that option. So it's not what you are looking for. To get rid of lines in the floor slab, you need to set the bottom of the interior elevation to just below the top of the floor and/or change the model view options to remove the separater lines in composites.
How do you deal with the intersection of vertical door casing and complex profile baseboard? I keep having a problem where the Casing actually overlaps the baseboard because ArchiCAD complex profiles assume that the outside of the baseboard is the outside edge of the wall, and then places the door accordingly? I moved the complex profile so that the origin x thing was aligned with the outside edge of the gyp board and that didn't change anything either. I moved the blue "stretch" guidelines and that didn't seem to change anything either.
I think you'll need to do the baseboard separate from the stud wall. Which has lots of other advantages. If you do it as a beam, it can slant along stairs. The baseboard can start and stop and wrap around walls, etc.
Shoegnome Thanks. After many hours of searching for a cooler way to do this I came to the same conclusion. I just needed some comfort in knowing I didn't miss something obvious. Haven't tried your template yet but plan to soon. :) Take care.
Is this possible in ArchiCAD 20? Thanks.
Absolutely. Though in ARCHICAD 20 you'd use Graphic Overrides to handle the pen and fill changes.