I'm a woman in her 30's. I am 5'2 and weigh 128 lbs. My nephew is 12 years old. He's 5'5 and 115 lbs. He's like 3x stronger than me already. How is this a debate in 2023? Males are bigger, physically stronger, and more dominant than females. And that's a wonderful thing. Because men are able to protect those that are smaller and weaker than them (women and children). That doesn't mean that as a woman, I don't have my strengths! I certainly do! B/c while my body might be smaller than my husband's, I still carried our children and birthed them and nursed them with this small frame! My husband can't do that! Women have superpowers. But out-running men or beating them in arm wrestling contests are not one of them.
@@daisybelle1025, 😂😂😂😂😂. The only person that could knock you down. So what that makes him the strongest person/man on earth? I’m sure there are thousands of people who could knock you down and with ease. There are 6’10” 350lbs athletic men out there. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
My aunt found this out the hard way, when I was like 10-12. She was both taller and heavier than you by quite a bit. She even out weighed me. She would always wrestle around with me and when she found out that I was going lite on her. She got embarrassed and challenged me to wrestle. She made me go “full” strength. She ended up crying, shortly after we started. She also never wanted to wrestle again.
Women get paid the same but women have a different • the disparity has been proven to be a false statement When you compare men and women with comparable educations at the beginning of their careers, working full-time in the same occupation and sector, the gender gap in earnings has largely disappeared in many advanced industrial economies. Same education, same work, same wage. Five to ten years later, often after the arrival of children, the gender gap in earnings appears. A non-existent wage gap becomes a significant and growing wage gap.
There's a reason sports are seperated when it comes to gender, because the male body has hundreds of biological differences that enables them to outperform women. I'll never understand why simple facts aren't allowed to be talked about because certain people choose to deem them as offensive, being accused of being a sexist or a mysoginist by simply stating truth.
Males: larger heart/vessels/circulatory system, larger lungs/respiratory systems. Women have innate advantages too. Biological men can’t compete with biological women-it’s apples v. Oranges.
@@pstrader916 For real. There’s no reason for females to be playing football with males. Especially if they’re going to moan about MTF transgender athletes playing female sports.
This is EXACTLY what I keep saying and other women start arguing that I'm supporting men. But as a woman, I know BIOLOGICALLY and as a FACT that women can't do all the things men can do. We are NOT the same and can never be the same, but equality doesn't mean we must be able to do the same things, it means we equally respect each other and not push the other down because they can't do what you can. An example is, a fish isn't a failure and not good enough just coz it can't fly and birds aren't failures just because they can't swim.
@@logancampbell6157 I know. It's very sad how the media puts a magnifying lens on the minority confused people and you think that this is how the world is now.
I am one of the rare female that was almost as strong as a man. I pushed myself to be able to do the same jobs physically, I am now 41 and my body is breaking down severely from the strain I put on it trying to be like a man. It wasn't worth it.
I saw an interview with a female officer in the military, she was chosen as part of a trial to train like the men do, her body started failing, she stopped having periods and may have be infertile because of it amongst other health issues. Women and men are different. The female body is not meant to be pushed as hard physically as a male body, it can’t handle it. Even if you manage to become as strong as a man like in your case which is rare in itself, your body cannot handle it. If you push yourself that hard that your bodies functions stop, like stopping having periods, then you need to stop, that is your body starting to fail.
"I am one of the rare female that was almost as strong as a man." No, you weren't. Also, modern women are masculine and think they can be men, so they do men stuff and then they end up alone and lonely at 35+.
Venus and Serina Williams once challenged the top 100 players to a game. There were no takers. Karsten Braasch who was ranked 200th in the world in 1998 then agreed to play them. The Williams sisters lost. He played them back-to-back and reportedly (according to him) was hungover when they played.
Good, no men's and women's leagues needed. We are all equal and the best rise to the top. Btw ppl at the top of their game don't take stupid call-outs like that. They have nothing to prove to and want to avoid injuries.
@@riothero313 And the best would be all men. Women wouldn't have a chance so we give them their own leagues; then we can see who rises to the top within their own gender
@@joanhardy1787 I agree: there aren't many great options. One is tempted to say that open sports to women makes sense for the best to rise, but even the best female cannot beat the top men, so it most likely does 10x more harm than good, for almost every sport in the world. And, unless you're going to ban women from all sports, you really need to give women and men different leagues, etc. That's how it has been for hundreds of years for these very reasons. Of course, nowadays, there are certain mixed-sex events/sports, which make it illegal to even have all-male teams/events/sports now, which is shockingly unfair for everybody and renders the whole thing moot, ultimately, and causes some cultural negative impacts, which can also be found in viewing figures and support (rather, the lack thereof). Nobody wins in such a world -- sadly, sports is heading that way, along with allowing males to defeat women directly in sports, one-on-one (such as Boxing). Sports is dying and meaningless, as a result. My honest advice in 2023 is for women to refuse all pro sports completely, unless they can actually find an all-female event/sport. Best to not waste your life on that corruption until it's all fixed in 2040, or whenever the world wants to go back to normal... assuming it ever does! Likewise, we are almost at the point where men need to quit sports, if they are forced to defeat women by law (which does seem to be coming down the pipeline in the West by the mid-2020s in almost all sports and categories). All you'll see by 2040 is men in every sport at the top, either wearing a dress ('transgender') or actually as a man. Either way: no actual women will be there. Strange irony from the side of, 'women's rights'. It's painfully clear that these radicals don't care about female rights even remotely.
We’ve gotta appreciate our differences as men and women. We need both in society! No hate just because someone can do something better than you can. We all have our individual strengths. It would be awful if we were all the same and all built the same in my opinion.
@@lamstar1 stating facts is not a display of hate, that’s what’s wrong with society today. The ones that want to oppose this are lost souls and all we can do is pray for them for they will never find peace only false quick little moments of being happy
I need my husband to stay much stronger than me!! I can't do the same stuff, nor do I want to. My sister is a big Tomboy, but even she knows guys and girls are built differently. Soooo sick of this crap!!
Hear hear. What woman doesn't like a man stronger than her? Any woman who doesn't is a woman men need to avoid. She has a different agenda and it might be one a man could never win
I remember in highschool this kid on the wrestling team had to wrestle a girl. They were in the same weight class. He broke her arm in the first 30 seconds. He felt bad. He didn't even go full force against her.
I have an MS in exercise physiology and have trained athletes from amateur to professional. That this is even a debate is mind boggling. We have decades of research, not to mention 100 years of women's sports, that demonstrate what we already knew-men have a physical advantage. You can't just give a woman testosterone and level the playing field-nor can you just give a man estrogen and eliminate the advantage. Look at professional bodybuilders who used massive amounts of drugs in the 1990s when the women got huge. They still couldn't come close to the men. Men, on average, are bigger than women (taller and heavier). When you compare men's and women's strength in absolute terms, men are stronger. When you compare men's and women's strength relative to their body weight, men are stronger. However, when you compare men's and women's strength relative only to muscle mass, only in the lower body do women have about 97% the strength of men. Men are stronger than women in the upper body in both absolute and relative terms. Hips and center of gravity can play a major role in performance. Men typically have more narrow hips and a higher center of gravity. This aids in mobility and agility. Women typically have wider hips than men and a lower center of gravity. This aids in stability. Men typically have greater speed and higher power output. This is the case even when you test the highest-level athletes. This only scratches the surface. There's a reason men's and women's sports are separated and it has nothing to do with "misogyny" or "the patriarchy". High school, college, and professional sports would be almost devoid of women as top players if they competed with men in one gender-neutral division. That doesn't make men "better" than women in some ontological sense, just different. Women have advantages over men in other areas. And that doesn't mean there's not a woman on earth who can beat a given man at some physical activity. I worked for a former women's Olympic shotputter, and she was much stronger than me. But she wasn't as strong as the men at her same level. The point is that on average, men are physically faster, stronger, more powerful, and more agile than women. Grab a random man and a random woman and odds are heavily in favor of the man when it comes to who has greater physical strength.
Let me start by saying that the difference in cis-males and cis-females is marked. With all other things equal a cis-male will most definitely beat a cis-woman in an athletic competition. It get murkier when I comes to transgender athletes. There are trans-men who compete and bodybuilding and place or win. There are also trans-men who wrestle and box and place or win. High impact sports like football or rugby, move the needle over slightly in favor of cis males. I think a lot of trans men have to put in more work to get the same result but i don't think there is a great disparity between fully transitioned trans men and cis men. With regard to trans women , that's a whole different conversation that would be a very long.
As a woman, I know that when it comes to a physical confrontation with a man, I don't stand a chance. I found that out firsthand when a 6'4" 350 pound man mugged me in broad daylight 30 years ago. I was only 31 years old, but I was on crutches due to recent knee surgery. He aske for my purse and told him to get lost. He shoved me down a set of concrete steps, yanked my purse away from me so hard he almost dislocated my shoulder, then he punched me in the face hard enough to break my nose and fracture the orbital rim of my left eye. He didn't need a weapon against me. His size and strength was his weapon. Until a woman can take a punch from a man, we will never be equal. God meant for men to be stronger. That's why he made them bigger and stronger than us. He had other uses for women, but he intended the two sexes to complement each other, not compete with each other. By the way, I bought a gun as soon as I was out of the hospital.
@@CBaller2020 Thank you, it's appreciated. I had some balance issues for a few years and also developed social anxiety. But I'm fine. It was a very frightening experience; even more so because people were walking right by us and no one stopped to help me, even though I screamed for help. This was in 1992, many years before cell phones. To this day, I don't know who called the police.
"We can be equal, without been the same" we all have something to bring, but if we all act like we're equally capable of doing anything. We ignore what a person may truly be able to do.
Its really quite embarrassing how the woke mob has hijacked what "equality of the sexes" is supposed to mean. Its supposed to be legal equality, not equality in all abilities. One is good, the other is a fantasy
@@anneeeev Many people argue that. It's the sole reason that so many people are mad about transgender athletes playing against their chosen gender. It can lead to massive advantages or disadvantages.
You’re confusing “equal” and the “same”. There’s a difference, women and men are not the same but can be treated equally. It’s not hard to understand 😂
Tennis is actually such a prime example because the angle you serve from determines everything. When you have 4-8 more inches of height, your serve will approach from a harder angle to return.
Doesn't matter the best woman's soccer team in the world got absolutely owned by male teenagers. The very same people that demand more money lolol how much do those kids make?
@@riothero313 That's not really true. It was a scrimmage game. The women were trying to warm up for a tournament. Anyone that has played sports knows that you aren't going 100% in a scrimmage game because you are trying to avoid injuries, not exhaust any muscles, etc. I'm not saying that the boys couldn't have won in a full-blown match, but that example is not a fair comparison.
@@nicolemoschen6031 Its was like 16-0 lmao and scores like that have happened quite a few times when female pros play an U15 team. Don't get me wrong i get what you're saying, and there is no way a grown woman is gonna tackle a 14 year old boy like she would tackle one of her peers. But with scores like 16 - 0 i highly doubt they could win even if they gave it their all.
@@rizzcs6018 I was only trying to say that it didn't really happen the way people say it did. I hear this argument ALL THE TIME in these types of videos, and it bugs me that they make it sound like the women were really trying. But... I completely agree, women cannot compete with men in sports. I played D1 sports in college and the men could crush me. Generally in swimming, men and women practice together and even though I worked way harder than most of the men, they would destroy me in competition. I hate that they are allowing transgender women to play women's sports. I feel like it is completely unfair regardless of hormone levels. Why else is it only an issue in women's sports? You don't see trans men joining any NFL teams.
@@nicolemoschen6031 i think its a totally valid example. If that was the men's team that played the boys the men would have won that scrimmage no problem. You can look at the history of exhibition matches and scrimmages between pros and amateurs of the same gender and the amateurs winning those games are extremely rare even though the pros are holding back. I gotta find the article but someone actually did a comparison of exhibition matches in different sports: male pros almost always wins against the female pros, male pros almost always beats the male amateurs while female pro vs male amateurs is essentially a coin toss. Sports like Basketball and tennis favored the men heavily while the ladies did slightly better in soccer but still lost to male counterparts the majority of the time. So this is why I say that the national female team losing to the u15 boys team is valid because statistically speaking it would have never happened to the men's national team
If I work at the same place as a dude, and he's lifting heavy ass shit all day, and I'm putting stickers on some shit...damn straight HE should get paid more than me.
@@tracyjohnson5023 but he said they should get paid the same and I say no way in hell an ibreaking my back lifting heavy shiit and anyone is only putting stickers on boxes and we get paid the same
When I was a young woman, I had the courage in my martial arts classes to spar the big men…with the absolute knowledge that I would lose. For me, it was about improving myself. Why don’t some women understand that strength vs strength man will regularly win ( and yes ladies I know women may have a chance with a elderly or injured or sick male) but we’re talking about averages here. We should value our strengths and our contributions to society, society could not exist without them. Let’s stop pretending to be something we are not and just be the best us we can be.
I agree with equal pay if the job can be done as well. If someone can’t keep up then no they don’t deserve equal pay. Should have nothing to do with gender and everything to do with physical/mental capability and job performance.
I completely agree with you guys. In professional sports, women just don't generate the revenue that men's sports do -- it's all about drawing the crowds and selling tickets. In a regular 9-5 job where brain power is the thing, there should definitely be equal pay in the work place. But there is definitely a difference between men's and women's physical abilities. Biologically, men are just physically stronger, there's no denying that. But that should in no way detract from women's abilities, overall.
@@delg1211 Did you say women are the ones obsessed? It's not men who are unaliving folks because they can't get wives? It's the women that are happier single that are the obsessed ones? Your dictionary is weird.
My hubs is an 18+ year career firefighter. This past year they (powers to be) made a special class for women, only women or those that identified as) that are EMTs, with NO physical requirements/standards and no training on what to do in an actual fire. Class was created by a woman who wanted a promotion and needed fire standards (shes in her late 50s and only sat at a desk)They did this, so these women could ride on a fire truck as EMTs. (our county FTruck respond to all med calls along with an ambulance, when available. Also our firetrucks can do EVERYTHING an ambulace can do) and "help". They all passed fire standards. You think cool, right? Except all firefighters to be must pass Fire Standards AND EMT before being a firefighter. I say that because the females going into to to be firefighters, don't get that class. So these EMTs, with their heart in the right place, really have no idea what they are doing when on a fire scene. Meaning when its just them and my husband that show up to a fire (yes its happend) they are creating a hinder to my husband. Who now worries about his scene, patients if there are, and someone who is supposed to be his back up. Also, what does that say to the other fire women who are doing the job and meeting the standard requirements for everyone....while showing up to all the photo ops of "Women in the Fire Service" type stuff knowing those women couldn't pull them out of a fire... -side note, They were then told next year the ones in the "special class" have to pass a physical and there is a HUGE uproar about how they were not told this and no way they could pass certain things. Like drag a 125lb 5'3" dummy 60ft or run a mile or climb 3 flights of stairs while hose.....my hubs is 6'2" 350lbs... I say that, because one of his partners is female and can drag his ass out of a fire and still have juice in the tank... What do you think that says to her? What do you think it creates to the morale of the guys in the service or about to get into it? If you can't do the job, truly, male, female, or the 🤷🏼♀️....you shouldn't get special privileges. *steps off soapbox*
I've been to one WNBA game because a female friend of mine had tickets. The stands were only like 20% full. Standing in line to get beer with the other guys who got dragged along was more entertaining.
guys, if i have a store/factory/anything with 2 employees, no matter the sex, color, age, etc and one of them works more than the other, i have to pay him BETTER, or he will leave me in the long term and i will remain with the weaker/lazier employee. Therefore it makes sense that the better employee to be paid better. If a man or a woman works like 10 employees, i`ll give him/her a BIGGER salary. If a man or woman works like half of employee/job, i wont pay half, i will fire him/her !
Y'all should watch Bill Burr's segment on "the male feminist." And just because you have the same job, doesn't mean you should get paid the same. If someone is busting their ass while the other is thumbing through their phone most of their shift, why should they get paid the same? A few of you brought that up. If we have the same title and get paid the same, it should be 50/50 in all aspects.
While I agree, that will never happen. Too subjective and most places don't have boss right there watching whole shift. That's why it's so common. Best we can hope for is that the slacker gets fired.
as a white female seeing u fellas do this reaction is very nice to see. it shows certain things people maybe might not think about if they watchin it casually. also love the vids guys. keep up the good work. every vid is always a banger.😁
Honestly, if professional women's sports leagues were as profitable as they wish they were, I'd bet a MVP sized salary they'd probably start bitching about "Male Gaze" and feeling objectified by all the men watching them.
This is my husband's log in so just to make you aware this is a women's opinion. I believe in equal fair opportunity not equal outcome. Have a look at Jordan Peterson as he is being interviewed by a Woman about Equal Pay and he explains it better than I ever could. I am not the same as my husband and I don't want to be as my strengths are different to his, we are a team.
At the top of her MMA career, Ronda Rousey was the highest paid fighter in the world. And NO ONE COMPLAINED. She brought in the most money, so she got paid the most. Simple. The way it should be.
Williams sisters v Karsten Braasch. He was ranked 203rd in the world. He beat Serena 6-1 and beat Venus 6-2. At the end of the game, Braasch said he actually played like a top 600 player to keep it “fun” and still beat them.Oct 2, 2022
If a woman does the same job, equally as good then same pay, if she does it better then better pay. Doesn’t matter ur gender, it’s what u do and how well.
Note: Just for some deeper understanding here, recent reports and studies show that women already make equal pay for almost every job, at every level in many Western nations. The key detail here is how money is generated for you: promotions. Women don't demand/get as many promotions, which is what massively messes up the so-called 'pay gap'. That, or it's a simple matter of wealth generation (rev). Typically, men are at the top of most areas and create the most support/wealth; therefore, they get paid more -- even for the exact same work/hours/job. Random example (real life example here) is a white guy on the BBC radio making like 5x as much money as a black female host -- doing the exact same job and hours, one assumes. The difference is this: he is 10x more popular than she is, so creates a lot more income for the station, which means they can pay him more. By demanding that she be paid equally, she is actually stealing directly from his and the station's own earnings as to equalise, even though she didn't actually make it, so even if she should get more money in some perfect world -- theft is never the answer, certainly not from your own radio station and its more successful hosts. That's just going to sink the ship. It's some kind of socialist utopia at best, and a simple act of bitter tyranny at worst. Either way, such a world is impossible without almost endless surplus of wealth, which is never going to happen. Even Aussieland or U.S. are not rich enough to throw away trillions of dollars a year like that for all women in all jobs, and it requires a weird taxation of the successful, then you'll simply force your successful people to flee to another nation/economy, thereby weakening your own even more. This is the call for 'equity' ('equality of outcome') in a nutshell. Be very, very scared of these terms. They translate to: 'forced, at gun point or the threat of such, to create identical outcomes/states at all levels of the society/system'. It's literally one step removed from creating a clone army or Germanic utopia of the 1930s. Truly sadly, it's happening all over the governments, educational systems, work force, and so on. It's the most insane, inhuman, unworkable, utopian thing ever dreamed of by humans. It's just a form of female-led Communism where everybody has billions of dollars and perfect happiness and status, and everybody has identical bodies/minds. Places like Cambodia already tried it, by forcing women into the factories to die like men. To say the last, it failed horribly, killing something like 70% of the total population under the dictatorship. And, it's slowly being enforced all over the place right now; hence, places like Sweden and England have 60% income tax rates compared to America's 15% or whatever. Likewise, it's partly why many Western nations are failing, and why they are struggling to generate. They are running a kind of female slave labour system, targetting successful men, with the illusion that it's reaching a 'fairer state' that can last forever. Places like Scotland and Sweden will be dead by 2040 if it keeps going 'woke' (for lack of a better umbrella term). Note: For a very important, extreme example, look at Fallon Fox, or any number of the other men-beating-women events. If nothing else, it's almost inhuman at the level of disrespect, and shows a lack of being a gentleman to the point of insanity. Women weren't even punched by men in public in the 1500s, so Christ knows how we got to where we are today, some 500 years later! There must be such a fundamental lack of value placed on the female sex in our culture, that it's nothing short of a desire for self-destruction. No self-respecting man beats a woman at anything if they can help it. It's just not what real men do.
@@jonanice That is fantasy land. Real people know the pay gap in sports is due to differences in REVENUE, not "patriarchy". VERY simple, more people Pay to watch male sports because the men are better, more entertaining to watch. Are you calling Serena Williams a liar?
That's not how they do the figuring. The take ALL jobs and divide that number by gender. They don't take into account that women quit their careers earlier than men. They take more breaks from working than do men. And men work longer hours than do women. So the number 'they' use is misleading
@@jonanice Quit being a clown there are more women in the country the pAtRiArChY which isn't real anyway aren't gatekeeping the WNBA stopping all those woman from watching or buying tickets.
I've been watching y'all for a minute. And I just subscribed. I don't agree with everything y'all say, BUT I am so happy to watch the debate and willingness to learn. Y'all doing the damn thing. Good shit.
As a female, I have no issue admitting when my lady muscles aren't up to the task. I'm stronger than most women, but still weaker then most men. Modern feminism thinks erasing our differences is the way forward, but I believe that embracing our differences and complimenting each other would be more beneficial. I could kick all the boys asses in martial arts, until about 14. The playing evened out, and then eventually its fully separated by sex for safety and competition. Could I hold my own, maybe, with a guy the same height and weight? Possibly. Its more likely I'd lose. I had to defend my life once, and he didn't fare so well, but either did I. Sadly, men (or even transwomen) competing in female sports will take someone's death to end this stupid argument about men and women being different
When i was 14, i watched the best U-16 soccer team in our district in the lower mainland of vancouver play the canadian womans national team. So 15 year old boys against pro grown women. The women got absolutely destroyed. I dont think they touched the ball once. It was an eye opener for sure.
Even when EVERYTHING is equal, individual qualities should still create a difference among workers/competitors. Things like effort, attitude, reliability, punctuality and experience, just to name a few, should ALWAYS be considered when evaluating worth. Sorry, ladies. The truth of the world IS competition. For work or play.
I am a woman who likes being a woman and I like the fact that men are bigger and stronger than me. The majority of the men I have come in contact with in my life, regardless of their size or strength have treated me with dignity and respect. I am shorter and weaker than men and I'm ok with it.
Great content, I love how you discuss the issues honestly and passionately! And just FYI, tennis service is cross-court, with a fixed rotation of the players throughout the set. So those men had to serve diagonally to those ladies at those points in the game!
The sports women excel over men in are sports of endurance, not bursts of strength and speed. Women have always made superior endurance swimmers (a woman holds the record for longest time and distance swimming in the ocean), as well as superior ultra marathon’ers (marathons covering several days). Men are stronger and faster, while women can endure more physical pain and exert more endurance. Japans infamous medical experimentation unit in WWII tested men vs women in pain endurance. Their results showed men broke under torture 2-3x faster than women and women stayed conscious during painful torture while most men eventually passed out.
Y'all should look up the female trans athlete that tried to race against men. She was all American and was undefeated in races. After racing real men she was like 79 of 83 lol One of them was missing an arm.
4:44 - Serena Williams says this herself, I saw her in an interview and asked about a match with a man and she flat out said "No way, any man on the men's roster would beat me". She says it.
Yes because she understands reality. Men and women are different. There is a reason we have men's and women's leagues. It's not fair to ask women to play with men and not fair to ask men to play with women. I grew up playing hockey. In the Summer, we would have co-ed teams. It was fun but that is what it was fun. When the real league came around, we had men's travel and women's travel leagues. Why? Because in the summer, it was about having fun. In the winter is was about winning hockey games.
14:14 what an interesting back and forth. I agree with both of their points tbh. I think it probably ends up coming down to both of those jobs being unskilled labor though at the end of the day. One might be more strenuous but that’s irrelevant to an employer. As long as both employees work at a similar pace and are both doing unskilled labor, theyre equally valuable employees
Lol, what? All humans have adam's apples. It's just much more likely to be more visible on men, because theirs tilt much more during puberty, making it more horizontal (pertruding), whereas girls' typically tilt very little, so it remains largely invisible unless we stretch out our necks while swallowing or something. Some girls' adam's apples tilt more than the female average and some guys' tilt less than the male average. You can't determine someone's birth sex by singling out traits like that (as I assume that's what you're implying). All women in my family except my aunt have broad shoulders and no hips. Much more typical for men than women. Doesn't make us men.
This is a point to the Transgender community why sports are kept separate. Genetics has EVERYTHING to do with the argument. It is unfair to have them together…And I am saying this as a woman.
Really lol…they were just showing the serves to the woman not the man…in mixed doubles you usually start with the woman on the right side because it takes a bit of pace of a right handed serving to that side..
@@huntersuper98 only said it because they only show it that way they don’t show that dude heading to the dude because it wouldn’t make sense but it’s also just how the game is played
A thought for you fellas: Is true equality an equality of opportunity or equality of outcome? This is a sincere question that requires deep thought about potential consequences. Some of which we are already living through. Either way, enjoy the thought experiment and God Bless you guys. It puts a smile on my face to see you all expand your horizons and how much care you all have with one another. Thank you.
There is no such thing as true equality. But if the question is rephrased as "which is better or healthier for society?" then the answer is always and has always been equality of opportunity. No one deserves to ride off the coattails of another persons work.
…they make $60M a year in revenue. You are thinking about their profit which is minus. They don’t want profit share. They want revenue share which is just as ridiculous but there is a major difference.
Hell yeah glad you got to see this I've seen it a few times but I'm here for y'all no offense against women but they are no match for a man in sports I do believe women have the same survival skills they definitely cleaner look better than us that is their strong point but don't trying to f*** with us guys in sports we will crush you always great reaction see you on the next storm and now I'm going to watch your video
If you're at the same workplace but doing different things, that is NOT the same job. I lift heavy boxes all day and it pisses me off seeing these girls doing fuck all and getting the same money.
I am a fire fighter, my wife is a fire fighter, she knows the truth and knows when something is better suited for a man PERIOD. No disrespect to her in any way because she is a rockstar and does an amazing job at anything she does but she is smart enough to know when she can't do the same things I can do. Plenty of things she does better then me but not one of them is in the strength category. She still should be paid the same because everyone is a gear in the machine and we all play our parts.
In 1983 I owned a business and an associate of mine walked in and stood at my desk, saying hi. Without warning, both his eyes instantly rolled upwards into his head and all I could see were the whites. He tilted his head way back and screamed an unholy guttural scream that almost shook the windows. At the same time as all this, both his hands/fingers stiffened and he slammed them down on my wooden desk top so hard that both hands went thru the wooden desktop. Then he fell to the floor.....silent. I dialed 911, and very soon an ambulance rolled up. Two female EMT's ran into my office, bringing a canvas gurney-type thing with them. We got my friend, who was unconscious....onto the gurney. Now, he was a very short (prob. 5'6') man with big muscles.....weighing over 200 lbs....very compact, strong guy. Once he was placed on the gurney......THOSE 2 FEMALES COULD NOT LIFT HIM UP TO GET HIM TO THE AMBULANCE. They tried and tried.....but could not lift him. Thank God I was there, and one other fellow. Together, we got him loaded up....and off to the hospital he went.....where he died soon after. This was at the very start of this "equality" push. LIsten, in the workplace....such as this ambulance company....they should have set standards that were necessary TO DO THE JOB. Hire only people that can DO THE JOB. If that's all men....so be it. If a female can do this same job....so be it too.....and pay her exactly the same wages as the male. But in this case, the standards for the female hires were lowered just to satisfy govt. mandates...in other words, females did not have to lift as much weight as the males to qualify for the same job. It probably killed my buddy in this case.
It was nice to see the WNBA stood up to COVID policies and still allowed fans to watch the games during the pandemic. Oh wait, they didn't? Couldn't tell the difference between COVID lockdown and average game attendance.....🤪
@@christianjennings4343 the arena holds 12000, aces average attendance for home games in 2022 is 5600. I guess that's filling it up...I'm no Steven Hawking, but that's less than 50% attendance, with most tickets selling for $20.00 and lower level seats for $32.00, that's horrible attendance. It cost more to see a AAA baseball game in Vegas and sit in the heat. If the prices rivaled NBA prices, no one would show as the product isn't worth that.
I work at the the Ford Kansas City Assembly Plant. I build F-150s. Pay is based off seniority. It doesn't matter what job you do on the line. There are 3 shifts and each operator on each shift are doing the exact same thing but being paid differently. Also, you guys need to do The Ghost Of You by My Chemical Romance.
Why does this matter? Even with men, you don’t make the lightest boxers fight heavyweights… Everyone tries to be the best in their class. Serena still a GOAT bc she was better than every other woman. She doesn’t need to be better than some random dude because that’s not fair competition.
You're right, it isn't. She was top ranked while this random dude was just a random dude and he still beat her so all of that you just typed was beyond pointless.
@@alexhennigh5242 Being the best female Tennis player arguably of all time is still an important thing. It's just also important to realize that she was the best FEMALE Tennis player. She reached what could potentially be the peak of any woman to play Tennis which is an almost inhuman feat and it's something worthy of praise. You can appreciate and respect it while also understanding that she is far from the best in the entire world of Tennis.
You guys could watch Fallon fox fight women in MMA, where the women were told he was a woman, and then he went in there and put on the worst show you've ever seen, very low skill, but he used brute strength and won, at one point he broke a woman's orbital bone.
The Bible calls the woman the "weaker vessel"!. Not weaker mentally, but physically. God made man to be the protector of the woman and children. Women have other wonderful qualities that men don't usually have. We should celebrate femininity and bring out qualities such as gentleness, nurturing, etc. We should also respect men for their strengths, not only physical but courage, fortitude, and loyalty etc.
I'm not gonna go into detail about what I "Do" believe & what I "Don't" believe about this particular topic/subject matter BUT all I gotta say is; If you make a claim, saying you can do better than "this person" or "that person", regardless of gender or "pronoun", you'd better be prepared to BACK IT UP with Facts or a Physical demonstration. Throughout history, males have had to physically prove themselves to be better or superior than the next man so if you're a woman, female, girl, trans, non binary, gay or lesbian who believes you're either better or "just as good" as Men? Be prepared to BACK IT UP! A physical demonstration will be required to prove your claim is valid. Evidence is necessary.
Please REACT to Eminem Ft. Jack Harlow & Cordae "KILLER (Remix)." It's a remix to a song dropped on Music To Be Murdered By Side B (You guys might want the lyric video.) ❤❤❤
Army medic veteran here. We are definitely not the same. When shit hits the fan, can I drag a 250lb+ dead weight to safety? maybe a couple of feet. I definitely couldn't carry him. And this would be at the peak of my fitness level. We are clearly different.
Office jobs..... women still make less and it's not athletically based it's supposed to be an merit based. Pshaw. (I have worked in IT for 22 years, sucks making less than men who are not nearly as good as me)
Emily, it’s been illegal to pay women less for the same job since Kennedy (assuming you’re American). So, if you have the same education, experience, work the same hours, job duties….and are getting paid less based on your gender…..then sue.
@@emilyobryant5083 idk, people lie all the time. Maybe you’re not lying but you’re not telling the other factors of why someone would make more than you like experience or how long they’ve worked there. It IS illegal to pay you less based on your sex if you’re doing the exact same job and working the same hours and there’s not other factors like experience, degrees or bonuses based on performance. You could get a huge lawsuit if you could prove that they’re paying you less.
My daughter is a D1 Field Hockey player. If men played, she would not have a spot. On a recruiting visit, a team with a two-time Olympic team member head coach scrimmaged with her team. The assistant coach, a man, was much better. Dominant. He hit so hard that the goalkeeper refused to stand in the goal when he was shooting. No comparison.
I'm a woman in her 30's. I am 5'2 and weigh 128 lbs. My nephew is 12 years old. He's 5'5 and 115 lbs. He's like 3x stronger than me already. How is this a debate in 2023? Males are bigger, physically stronger, and more dominant than females. And that's a wonderful thing. Because men are able to protect those that are smaller and weaker than them (women and children). That doesn't mean that as a woman, I don't have my strengths! I certainly do! B/c while my body might be smaller than my husband's, I still carried our children and birthed them and nursed them with this small frame! My husband can't do that! Women have superpowers. But out-running men or beating them in arm wrestling contests are not one of them.
This I'm 5'4 same age range as you...I have a 5'10 16 year old, whose probably the only person who could ever knock me down
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@@daisybelle1025, 😂😂😂😂😂. The only person that could knock you down. So what that makes him the strongest person/man on earth? I’m sure there are thousands of people who could knock you down and with ease. There are 6’10” 350lbs athletic men out there. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
My aunt found this out the hard way, when I was like 10-12. She was both taller and heavier than you by quite a bit. She even out weighed me. She would always wrestle around with me and when she found out that I was going lite on her. She got embarrassed and challenged me to wrestle. She made me go “full” strength. She ended up crying, shortly after we started. She also never wanted to wrestle again.
Women get paid the same but women have a different • the disparity has been proven to be a false statement When you compare men and women with comparable educations at the beginning of their careers, working full-time in the same occupation and sector, the gender gap in earnings has largely disappeared in many advanced industrial economies. Same education, same work, same wage.
Five to ten years later, often after the arrival of children, the gender gap in earnings appears. A non-existent wage gap becomes a significant and growing wage gap.
There's a reason sports are seperated when it comes to gender, because the male body has hundreds of biological differences that enables them to outperform women. I'll never understand why simple facts aren't allowed to be talked about because certain people choose to deem them as offensive, being accused of being a sexist or a mysoginist by simply stating truth.
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Facts. Before we know it, all sports are going to be legally required to be co-ed🤦
Males: larger heart/vessels/circulatory system, larger lungs/respiratory systems. Women have innate advantages too. Biological men can’t compete with biological women-it’s apples v. Oranges.
@@pstrader916
For real. There’s no reason for females to be playing football with males. Especially if they’re going to moan about MTF transgender athletes playing female sports.
For real. People's feelings tend to be put over ACTUAL TRUTH and FACTS.
This is EXACTLY what I keep saying and other women start arguing that I'm supporting men. But as a woman, I know BIOLOGICALLY and as a FACT that women can't do all the things men can do. We are NOT the same and can never be the same, but equality doesn't mean we must be able to do the same things, it means we equally respect each other and not push the other down because they can't do what you can.
An example is, a fish isn't a failure and not good enough just coz it can't fly and birds aren't failures just because they can't swim.
Going through these comments is giving me hope for the future. I was beginning to think reality had left the conversation
@@logancampbell6157 I know. It's very sad how the media puts a magnifying lens on the minority confused people and you think that this is how the world is now.
You hit the nail on the head!
Absolutely. Equal doesn’t mean identical.
damn, now this is a woman right here. love the response.
I am one of the rare female that was almost as strong as a man. I pushed myself to be able to do the same jobs physically, I am now 41 and my body is breaking down severely from the strain I put on it trying to be like a man. It wasn't worth it.
I saw an interview with a female officer in the military, she was chosen as part of a trial to train like the men do, her body started failing, she stopped having periods and may have be infertile because of it amongst other health issues. Women and men are different. The female body is not meant to be pushed as hard physically as a male body, it can’t handle it. Even if you manage to become as strong as a man like in your case which is rare in itself, your body cannot handle it. If you push yourself that hard that your bodies functions stop, like stopping having periods, then you need to stop, that is your body starting to fail.
But what jobs do you speak of?
"I am one of the rare female that was almost as strong as a man."
No, you weren't.
Also, modern women are masculine and think they can be men, so they do men stuff and then they end up alone and lonely at 35+.
You should just try to be strong, not like a man
It takes courage to say that and to admit it. Hope you’re feeling better. Jesus loves you
Venus and Serina Williams once challenged the top 100 players to a game. There were no takers. Karsten Braasch who was ranked 200th in the world in 1998 then agreed to play them. The Williams sisters lost. He played them back-to-back and reportedly (according to him) was hungover when they played.
Good, no men's and women's leagues needed. We are all equal and the best rise to the top. Btw ppl at the top of their game don't take stupid call-outs like that. They have nothing to prove to and want to avoid injuries.
@@riothero313 And the best would be all men. Women wouldn't have a chance so we give them their own leagues; then we can see who rises to the top within their own gender
@@joanhardy1787 I agree: there aren't many great options. One is tempted to say that open sports to women makes sense for the best to rise, but even the best female cannot beat the top men, so it most likely does 10x more harm than good, for almost every sport in the world. And, unless you're going to ban women from all sports, you really need to give women and men different leagues, etc. That's how it has been for hundreds of years for these very reasons. Of course, nowadays, there are certain mixed-sex events/sports, which make it illegal to even have all-male teams/events/sports now, which is shockingly unfair for everybody and renders the whole thing moot, ultimately, and causes some cultural negative impacts, which can also be found in viewing figures and support (rather, the lack thereof). Nobody wins in such a world -- sadly, sports is heading that way, along with allowing males to defeat women directly in sports, one-on-one (such as Boxing). Sports is dying and meaningless, as a result.
My honest advice in 2023 is for women to refuse all pro sports completely, unless they can actually find an all-female event/sport. Best to not waste your life on that corruption until it's all fixed in 2040, or whenever the world wants to go back to normal... assuming it ever does! Likewise, we are almost at the point where men need to quit sports, if they are forced to defeat women by law (which does seem to be coming down the pipeline in the West by the mid-2020s in almost all sports and categories). All you'll see by 2040 is men in every sport at the top, either wearing a dress ('transgender') or actually as a man. Either way: no actual women will be there. Strange irony from the side of, 'women's rights'. It's painfully clear that these radicals don't care about female rights even remotely.
@@TheClassicWorld All so true
Why are you males competing with women athletically ...are you intimidated by women? Because I don't compete those I'm not intimidated by.
We’ve gotta appreciate our differences as men and women. We need both in society! No hate just because someone can do something better than you can. We all have our individual strengths. It would be awful if we were all the same and all built the same in my opinion.
Amen! I say these constantly ❤
That's right 👍
This video is filled with hate
@Iamstar1 How so? The video they’re reacting to, or the guys themselves?
@@lamstar1 stating facts is not a display of hate, that’s what’s wrong with society today. The ones that want to oppose this are lost souls and all we can do is pray for them for they will never find peace only false quick little moments of being happy
I need my husband to stay much stronger than me!! I can't do the same stuff, nor do I want to. My sister is a big Tomboy, but even she knows guys and girls are built differently. Soooo sick of this crap!!
Agree, I need a physically STRONGER MAN!
Hear hear. What woman doesn't like a man stronger than her? Any woman who doesn't is a woman men need to avoid. She has a different agenda and it might be one a man could never win
How about just letting him be himself?
@@NoRockinMansLand huh?
I love tomboys
This wasn't trials to be a fireman. She's a career firemen, and she can't even break down a door. She's the fire cheif
Geez Smdh
I've seen at least 10 reactions and no one ever sees the title under her name.
@@seanwilson5516 Caught it the very first time I watched it and every subsequent time most people seem to miss the point for some reason.
OMG! I missed that she was fire chief! Wokeness is dangerous. Sheesh
@@joanhardy1787 Fire chiefs do t break down doors, lol look at their job description.
I remember in highschool this kid on the wrestling team had to wrestle a girl. They were in the same weight class. He broke her arm in the first 30 seconds. He felt bad. He didn't even go full force against her.
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Oh my, how awful for both of them. The coaches were stupid to allow the match.
I have an MS in exercise physiology and have trained athletes from amateur to professional. That this is even a debate is mind boggling. We have decades of research, not to mention 100 years of women's sports, that demonstrate what we already knew-men have a physical advantage. You can't just give a woman testosterone and level the playing field-nor can you just give a man estrogen and eliminate the advantage. Look at professional bodybuilders who used massive amounts of drugs in the 1990s when the women got huge. They still couldn't come close to the men.
Men, on average, are bigger than women (taller and heavier). When you compare men's and women's strength in absolute terms, men are stronger. When you compare men's and women's strength relative to their body weight, men are stronger. However, when you compare men's and women's strength relative only to muscle mass, only in the lower body do women have about 97% the strength of men. Men are stronger than women in the upper body in both absolute and relative terms.
Hips and center of gravity can play a major role in performance. Men typically have more narrow hips and a higher center of gravity. This aids in mobility and agility. Women typically have wider hips than men and a lower center of gravity. This aids in stability.
Men typically have greater speed and higher power output. This is the case even when you test the highest-level athletes.
This only scratches the surface. There's a reason men's and women's sports are separated and it has nothing to do with "misogyny" or "the patriarchy". High school, college, and professional sports would be almost devoid of women as top players if they competed with men in one gender-neutral division.
That doesn't make men "better" than women in some ontological sense, just different. Women have advantages over men in other areas. And that doesn't mean there's not a woman on earth who can beat a given man at some physical activity. I worked for a former women's Olympic shotputter, and she was much stronger than me. But she wasn't as strong as the men at her same level. The point is that on average, men are physically faster, stronger, more powerful, and more agile than women. Grab a random man and a random woman and odds are heavily in favor of the man when it comes to who has greater physical strength.
Let me start by saying that the difference in cis-males and cis-females is marked. With all other things equal a cis-male will most definitely beat a cis-woman in an athletic competition. It get murkier when I comes to transgender athletes. There are trans-men who compete and bodybuilding and place or win. There are also trans-men who wrestle and box and place or win. High impact sports like football or rugby, move the needle over slightly in favor of cis males. I think a lot of trans men have to put in more work to get the same result but i don't think there is a great disparity between fully transitioned trans men and cis men. With regard to trans women , that's a whole different conversation that would be a very long.
@@reneafon4449 If you have any evidence (other than anecdotal) that there is little disparity between natural men and trans men, please post it.
@Rene Afon a trans man is a woman who transistioned to a man, not a man who has transistioned to a woman?
If you’re using the word “cis”, which died off already, good luck to you gullible idot
@@reneafon4449 this is simply a lie
As a woman, I know that when it comes to a physical confrontation with a man, I don't stand a chance. I found that out firsthand when a 6'4" 350 pound man mugged me in broad daylight 30 years ago. I was only 31 years old, but I was on crutches due to recent knee surgery. He aske for my purse and told him to get lost. He shoved me down a set of concrete steps, yanked my purse away from me so hard he almost dislocated my shoulder, then he punched me in the face hard enough to break my nose and fracture the orbital rim of my left eye. He didn't need a weapon against me. His size and strength was his weapon. Until a woman can take a punch from a man, we will never be equal. God meant for men to be stronger. That's why he made them bigger and stronger than us. He had other uses for women, but he intended the two sexes to complement each other, not compete with each other. By the way, I bought a gun as soon as I was out of the hospital.
Wow!! I am so sorry that happened to you!! I can't even imagine how scary that had to be! I know I'm a complete stranger, but I'm glad you're ok.
@@CBaller2020 Thank you, it's appreciated. I had some balance issues for a few years and also developed social anxiety. But I'm fine. It was a very frightening experience; even more so because people were walking right by us and no one stopped to help me, even though I screamed for help. This was in 1992, many years before cell phones. To this day, I don't know who called the police.
Wow! Yet another reason why I carry my gun on my person everywhere I go.
@@tracyjohnson5023Me too. Whenever I'm out and about (except at work, which doesn't allow it), I have my gun on me.
The gun truly is the great equalizer
"We can be equal, without been the same" we all have something to bring, but if we all act like we're equally capable of doing anything. We ignore what a person may truly be able to do.
Its really quite embarrassing how the woke mob has hijacked what "equality of the sexes" is supposed to mean. Its supposed to be legal equality, not equality in all abilities. One is good, the other is a fantasy
Trans men in female prisons. They are equal but different. Thank you for your support!!
I’m an old lady that doesn’t feel too good right now, but you young men always make me smile. Thank you.
Breaking my back vs puttin labels on a box. Cmon man
Exactly
Two different jobs man. Sounds like back breaker is paying too much attention to how other people do their jobs. Needs to focus on his own work.
We are not equal , genetics has proven this 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
No one’s arguing that
@@anneeeev yeah these toxic so called feminist dumb asses are arguing it. Lmao
I mean duh, there never needed to be a compilation to prove this, but I guess some insecure, red pill manosphere dude needed this video idk 🤷🏽♀️🥴🤡
@@anneeeev Many people argue that.
It's the sole reason that so many people are mad about transgender athletes playing against their chosen gender.
It can lead to massive advantages or disadvantages.
You’re confusing “equal” and the “same”. There’s a difference, women and men are not the same but can be treated equally. It’s not hard to understand 😂
Tennis is actually such a prime example because the angle you serve from determines everything. When you have 4-8 more inches of height, your serve will approach from a harder angle to return.
It's far more than just that.
We can't forget about how a group of little boys shutout the fifth best women's soccer team
Doesn't matter the best woman's soccer team in the world got absolutely owned by male teenagers. The very same people that demand more money lolol how much do those kids make?
@@riothero313 That's not really true. It was a scrimmage game. The women were trying to warm up for a tournament. Anyone that has played sports knows that you aren't going 100% in a scrimmage game because you are trying to avoid injuries, not exhaust any muscles, etc. I'm not saying that the boys couldn't have won in a full-blown match, but that example is not a fair comparison.
@@nicolemoschen6031 Its was like 16-0 lmao and scores like that have happened quite a few times when female pros play an U15 team. Don't get me wrong i get what you're saying, and there is no way a grown woman is gonna tackle a 14 year old boy like she would tackle one of her peers. But with scores like 16 - 0 i highly doubt they could win even if they gave it their all.
@@rizzcs6018 I was only trying to say that it didn't really happen the way people say it did. I hear this argument ALL THE TIME in these types of videos, and it bugs me that they make it sound like the women were really trying. But... I completely agree, women cannot compete with men in sports. I played D1 sports in college and the men could crush me. Generally in swimming, men and women practice together and even though I worked way harder than most of the men, they would destroy me in competition.
I hate that they are allowing transgender women to play women's sports. I feel like it is completely unfair regardless of hormone levels. Why else is it only an issue in women's sports? You don't see trans men joining any NFL teams.
@@nicolemoschen6031 i think its a totally valid example. If that was the men's team that played the boys the men would have won that scrimmage no problem. You can look at the history of exhibition matches and scrimmages between pros and amateurs of the same gender and the amateurs winning those games are extremely rare even though the pros are holding back. I gotta find the article but someone actually did a comparison of exhibition matches in different sports: male pros almost always wins against the female pros, male pros almost always beats the male amateurs while female pro vs male amateurs is essentially a coin toss. Sports like Basketball and tennis favored the men heavily while the ladies did slightly better in soccer but still lost to male counterparts the majority of the time. So this is why I say that the national female team losing to the u15 boys team is valid because statistically speaking it would have never happened to the men's national team
If I work at the same place as a dude, and he's lifting heavy ass shit all day, and I'm putting stickers on some shit...damn straight HE should get paid more than me.
Well...most places like this are factories and there are different pay scales for different jobs on the line, just like seniority pay scales.
Exactly this fool said they should get paid the same, you know he hadn't worked a real real job
@@tracyjohnson5023 but he said they should get paid the same and I say no way in hell an ibreaking my back lifting heavy shiit and anyone is only putting stickers on boxes and we get paid the same
I feel like if you work physically demanding jobs in generous should get paid a lil more.
I second that!
When I was a young woman, I had the courage in my martial arts classes to spar the big men…with the absolute knowledge that I would lose. For me, it was about improving myself. Why don’t some women understand that strength vs strength man will regularly win ( and yes ladies I know women may have a chance with a elderly or injured or sick male) but we’re talking about averages here.
We should value our strengths and our contributions to society, society could not exist without them. Let’s stop pretending to be something we are not and just be the best us we can be.
I agree with equal pay if the job can be done as well. If someone can’t keep up then no they don’t deserve equal pay. Should have nothing to do with gender and everything to do with physical/mental capability and job performance.
3+1 = 2+2; we don’t have to be doing the “same” to be “equal”.
I completely agree with you guys. In professional sports, women just don't generate the revenue that men's sports do -- it's all about drawing the crowds and selling tickets. In a regular 9-5 job where brain power is the thing, there should definitely be equal pay in the work place. But there is definitely a difference between men's and women's physical abilities. Biologically, men are just physically stronger, there's no denying that. But that should in no way detract from women's abilities, overall.
Can the men also get equal pay in Only Fans? 😂
Yes
@@akuheihotaru8849 then why don't they? Same reason as WNBA, less interest.
Women are OBSESSED with men, but much less than other way around.
EXACTLY! Or get paid to be half dressed on TikTok.
@@delg1211 Did you say women are the ones obsessed? It's not men who are unaliving folks because they can't get wives? It's the women that are happier single that are the obsessed ones? Your dictionary is weird.
@@barbymadison878 Keep telling yourself that...
My hubs is an 18+ year career firefighter. This past year they (powers to be) made a special class for women, only women or those that identified as) that are EMTs, with NO physical requirements/standards and no training on what to do in an actual fire. Class was created by a woman who wanted a promotion and needed fire standards (shes in her late 50s and only sat at a desk)They did this, so these women could ride on a fire truck as EMTs. (our county FTruck respond to all med calls along with an ambulance, when available. Also our firetrucks can do EVERYTHING an ambulace can do) and "help". They all passed fire standards. You think cool, right?
Except all firefighters to be must pass Fire Standards AND EMT before being a firefighter. I say that because the females going into to to be firefighters, don't get that class.
So these EMTs, with their heart in the right place, really have no idea what they are doing when on a fire scene. Meaning when its just them and my husband that show up to a fire (yes its happend) they are creating a hinder to my husband. Who now worries about his scene, patients if there are, and someone who is supposed to be his back up.
Also, what does that say to the other fire women who are doing the job and meeting the standard requirements for everyone....while showing up to all the photo ops of "Women in the Fire Service" type stuff knowing those women couldn't pull them out of a fire...
-side note, They were then told next year the ones in the "special class" have to pass a physical and there is a HUGE uproar about how they were not told this and no way they could pass certain things. Like drag a 125lb 5'3" dummy 60ft or run a mile or climb 3 flights of stairs while hose.....my hubs is 6'2" 350lbs... I say that, because one of his partners is female and can drag his ass out of a fire and still have juice in the tank...
What do you think that says to her? What do you think it creates to the morale of the guys in the service or about to get into it?
If you can't do the job, truly, male, female, or the 🤷🏼♀️....you shouldn't get special privileges.
*steps off soapbox*
There is a huge difference between men and women and I say thank God for it!
Dude IS correct tho.." WE ARE NOT THE SAME".
There was a poll; Would you rather find $5 on the ground or have your local WNBA team win the championship. Over 80% of people polled picked the $5.
We need to remember that these things are not reflective of our character or worth as a person. It is simply how our bodies are made.
Poor man's podcast always spitting truth.
I've been to one WNBA game because a female friend of mine had tickets. The stands were only like 20% full. Standing in line to get beer with the other guys who got dragged along was more entertaining.
Men are analytical and strong, women are graceful, detail oriented and more organized. Why do they think grace and beauty are weaknesses?
guys, if i have a store/factory/anything with 2 employees, no matter the sex, color, age, etc and one of them works more than the other, i have to pay him BETTER, or he will leave me in the long term and i will remain with the weaker/lazier employee. Therefore it makes sense that the better employee to be paid better. If a man or a woman works like 10 employees, i`ll give him/her a BIGGER salary. If a man or woman works like half of employee/job, i wont pay half, i will fire him/her !
Y'all should watch Bill Burr's segment on "the male feminist." And just because you have the same job, doesn't mean you should get paid the same. If someone is busting their ass while the other is thumbing through their phone most of their shift, why should they get paid the same? A few of you brought that up. If we have the same title and get paid the same, it should be 50/50 in all aspects.
While I agree, that will never happen. Too subjective and most places don't have boss right there watching whole shift. That's why it's so common. Best we can hope for is that the slacker gets fired.
as a white female seeing u fellas do this reaction is very nice to see. it shows certain things people maybe might not think about if they watchin it casually. also love the vids guys. keep up the good work. every vid is always a banger.😁
Honestly, if professional women's sports leagues were as profitable as they wish they were, I'd bet a MVP sized salary they'd probably start bitching about "Male Gaze" and feeling objectified by all the men watching them.
"I don't want to pay to watch missed layups."
LOL
This is my husband's log in so just to make you aware this is a women's opinion.
I believe in equal fair opportunity not equal outcome.
Have a look at Jordan Peterson as he is being interviewed by a Woman about Equal Pay and he explains it better than I ever could.
I am not the same as my husband and I don't want to be as my strengths are different to his, we are a team.
At the top of her MMA career, Ronda Rousey was the highest paid fighter in the world. And NO ONE COMPLAINED.
She brought in the most money, so she got paid the most. Simple. The way it should be.
Thanks for the shout out to Little Rock!! My hometown!
Williams sisters v Karsten Braasch. He was ranked 203rd in the world. He beat Serena 6-1 and beat Venus 6-2. At the end of the game, Braasch said he actually played like a top 600 player to keep it “fun” and still beat them.Oct 2, 2022
Guys please stop talking when other people on the video are talking, or at least pause to make your comments. It would be easier to watch 😉
If a woman does the same job, equally as good then same pay, if she does it better then better pay. Doesn’t matter ur gender, it’s what u do and how well.
Note: Just for some deeper understanding here, recent reports and studies show that women already make equal pay for almost every job, at every level in many Western nations. The key detail here is how money is generated for you: promotions. Women don't demand/get as many promotions, which is what massively messes up the so-called 'pay gap'. That, or it's a simple matter of wealth generation (rev). Typically, men are at the top of most areas and create the most support/wealth; therefore, they get paid more -- even for the exact same work/hours/job.
Random example (real life example here) is a white guy on the BBC radio making like 5x as much money as a black female host -- doing the exact same job and hours, one assumes. The difference is this: he is 10x more popular than she is, so creates a lot more income for the station, which means they can pay him more. By demanding that she be paid equally, she is actually stealing directly from his and the station's own earnings as to equalise, even though she didn't actually make it, so even if she should get more money in some perfect world -- theft is never the answer, certainly not from your own radio station and its more successful hosts. That's just going to sink the ship. It's some kind of socialist utopia at best, and a simple act of bitter tyranny at worst. Either way, such a world is impossible without almost endless surplus of wealth, which is never going to happen. Even Aussieland or U.S. are not rich enough to throw away trillions of dollars a year like that for all women in all jobs, and it requires a weird taxation of the successful, then you'll simply force your successful people to flee to another nation/economy, thereby weakening your own even more.
This is the call for 'equity' ('equality of outcome') in a nutshell. Be very, very scared of these terms. They translate to: 'forced, at gun point or the threat of such, to create identical outcomes/states at all levels of the society/system'. It's literally one step removed from creating a clone army or Germanic utopia of the 1930s. Truly sadly, it's happening all over the governments, educational systems, work force, and so on. It's the most insane, inhuman, unworkable, utopian thing ever dreamed of by humans. It's just a form of female-led Communism where everybody has billions of dollars and perfect happiness and status, and everybody has identical bodies/minds. Places like Cambodia already tried it, by forcing women into the factories to die like men. To say the last, it failed horribly, killing something like 70% of the total population under the dictatorship. And, it's slowly being enforced all over the place right now; hence, places like Sweden and England have 60% income tax rates compared to America's 15% or whatever. Likewise, it's partly why many Western nations are failing, and why they are struggling to generate. They are running a kind of female slave labour system, targetting successful men, with the illusion that it's reaching a 'fairer state' that can last forever. Places like Scotland and Sweden will be dead by 2040 if it keeps going 'woke' (for lack of a better umbrella term).
Note: For a very important, extreme example, look at Fallon Fox, or any number of the other men-beating-women events. If nothing else, it's almost inhuman at the level of disrespect, and shows a lack of being a gentleman to the point of insanity. Women weren't even punched by men in public in the 1500s, so Christ knows how we got to where we are today, some 500 years later! There must be such a fundamental lack of value placed on the female sex in our culture, that it's nothing short of a desire for self-destruction. No self-respecting man beats a woman at anything if they can help it. It's just not what real men do.
Women don’t deserve to be penalised financially though cause the patriarchy decided their sports aren’t worth touting the same as men’s
@@jonanice That is fantasy land. Real people know the pay gap in sports is due to differences in REVENUE, not "patriarchy".
VERY simple, more people Pay to watch male sports because the men are better, more entertaining to watch.
Are you calling Serena Williams a liar?
That's not how they do the figuring. The take ALL jobs and divide that number by gender. They don't take into account that women quit their careers earlier than men. They take more breaks from working than do men. And men work longer hours than do women. So the number 'they' use is misleading
@@jonanice Quit being a clown there are more women in the country the pAtRiArChY which isn't real anyway aren't gatekeeping the WNBA stopping all those woman from watching or buying tickets.
I've been watching y'all for a minute. And I just subscribed. I don't agree with everything y'all say, BUT I am so happy to watch the debate and willingness to learn. Y'all doing the damn thing. Good shit.
I love you guys...The Fab Five...The ones here are my favorite!! Love your discussions...
As a female, I have no issue admitting when my lady muscles aren't up to the task. I'm stronger than most women, but still weaker then most men. Modern feminism thinks erasing our differences is the way forward, but I believe that embracing our differences and complimenting each other would be more beneficial. I could kick all the boys asses in martial arts, until about 14. The playing evened out, and then eventually its fully separated by sex for safety and competition. Could I hold my own, maybe, with a guy the same height and weight? Possibly. Its more likely I'd lose. I had to defend my life once, and he didn't fare so well, but either did I. Sadly, men (or even transwomen) competing in female sports will take someone's death to end this stupid argument about men and women being different
When i was 14, i watched the best U-16 soccer team in our district in the lower mainland of vancouver play the canadian womans national team.
So 15 year old boys against pro grown women.
The women got absolutely destroyed. I dont think they touched the ball once. It was an eye opener for sure.
jeez they should have payed their wages to those boys that day 🤣
Love the videos you guys have been making lately ... Keep it up ... And it def helps that you all are very nice to look at .....
You guys are awesome!!! I love your commentary and it's spot on!
Even when EVERYTHING is equal, individual qualities should still create a difference among workers/competitors. Things like effort, attitude, reliability, punctuality and experience, just to name a few, should ALWAYS be considered when evaluating worth. Sorry, ladies. The truth of the world IS competition. For work or play.
I am a woman who likes being a woman and I like the fact that men are bigger and stronger than me. The majority of the men I have come in contact with in my life, regardless of their size or strength have treated me with dignity and respect. I am shorter and weaker than men and I'm ok with it.
"2+2=4, 3+1=4, we can be equeal without being the same" ... love that
Great content, I love how you discuss the issues honestly and passionately! And just FYI, tennis service is cross-court, with a fixed rotation of the players throughout the set. So those men had to serve diagonally to those ladies at those points in the game!
The sports women excel over men in are sports of endurance, not bursts of strength and speed. Women have always made superior endurance swimmers (a woman holds the record for longest time and distance swimming in the ocean), as well as superior ultra marathon’ers (marathons covering several days). Men are stronger and faster, while women can endure more physical pain and exert more endurance.
Japans infamous medical experimentation unit in WWII tested men vs women in pain endurance. Their results showed men broke under torture 2-3x faster than women and women stayed conscious during painful torture while most men eventually passed out.
I like y’all’s longer form videos. Please playlist your videos.
Luv ye’re videos keep doin u. Much luv from Ireland 🇮🇪 ❤
I really enjoy your clips. All the best !
Y'all should look up the female trans athlete that tried to race against men. She was all American and was undefeated in races. After racing real men she was like 79 of 83 lol One of them was missing an arm.
4:44 - Serena Williams says this herself, I saw her in an interview and asked about a match with a man and she flat out said "No way, any man on the men's roster would beat me". She says it.
Yes because she understands reality. Men and women are different. There is a reason we have men's and women's leagues. It's not fair to ask women to play with men and not fair to ask men to play with women. I grew up playing hockey. In the Summer, we would have co-ed teams. It was fun but that is what it was fun. When the real league came around, we had men's travel and women's travel leagues. Why? Because in the summer, it was about having fun. In the winter is was about winning hockey games.
14:14 what an interesting back and forth. I agree with both of their points tbh. I think it probably ends up coming down to both of those jobs being unskilled labor though at the end of the day. One might be more strenuous but that’s irrelevant to an employer. As long as both employees work at a similar pace and are both doing unskilled labor, theyre equally valuable employees
🦋Definitely not my favorite video that you’ve done. But no matter what the video you guys having the discussion is the best part.
Biology says it all, we are strong in different ways.
Brittney Griner is the first woman I ever saw with an Adam's apple
Lol, what? All humans have adam's apples. It's just much more likely to be more visible on men, because theirs tilt much more during puberty, making it more horizontal (pertruding), whereas girls' typically tilt very little, so it remains largely invisible unless we stretch out our necks while swallowing or something. Some girls' adam's apples tilt more than the female average and some guys' tilt less than the male average. You can't determine someone's birth sex by singling out traits like that (as I assume that's what you're implying). All women in my family except my aunt have broad shoulders and no hips. Much more typical for men than women. Doesn't make us men.
"That's a man, baby. Yea!"
Ive seen others but I agree with what you're saying
I know this is 7 months old but loved your banter and then add in how fair it is having trans women against females calling it equal🙄 Love you guys❤
I love the way he explains this. Balance!
Love this gender equality, right 🤣🤣
i was just watching this guys channel before you posted this video lol
This is a point to the Transgender community why sports are kept separate. Genetics has EVERYTHING to do with the argument. It is unfair to have them together…And I am saying this as a woman.
in tennis you serve to a specific side each game thats why they were constantly serving to the woman they cant swap
Really lol…they were just showing the serves to the woman not the man…in mixed doubles you usually start with the woman on the right side because it takes a bit of pace of a right handed serving to that side..
I mean if they could swap would they? If you're almost guaranteed an ace going for one half you might as well do it.
@@huntersuper98 only said it because they only show it that way they don’t show that dude heading to the dude because it wouldn’t make sense but it’s also just how the game is played
Well said guys!
womens college basketball is getting better every year. these girls hooping fr
A thought for you fellas: Is true equality an equality of opportunity or equality of outcome?
This is a sincere question that requires deep thought about potential consequences. Some of which we are already living through.
Either way, enjoy the thought experiment and God Bless you guys. It puts a smile on my face to see you all expand your horizons and how much care you all have with one another.
Thank you.
I feel like equality of opportunity is all anyone deserves. Equality of outcome is just simply a ridiculous notion
There is no such thing as true equality. But if the question is rephrased as "which is better or healthier for society?" then the answer is always and has always been equality of opportunity. No one deserves to ride off the coattails of another persons work.
It's negative 12 million a year, if they wanted equity they should each be paying $388k each
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…they make $60M a year in revenue. You are thinking about their profit which is minus.
They don’t want profit share. They want revenue share which is just as ridiculous but there is a major difference.
Great video.
He said volleyball LIT 😅... YES IT IS 😂
Hell yeah glad you got to see this I've seen it a few times but I'm here for y'all no offense against women but they are no match for a man in sports I do believe women have the same survival skills they definitely cleaner look better than us that is their strong point but don't trying to f*** with us guys in sports we will crush you always great reaction see you on the next storm and now I'm going to watch your video
If you're at the same workplace but doing different things, that is NOT the same job. I lift heavy boxes all day and it pisses me off seeing these girls doing fuck all and getting the same money.
Sounds like you need to quit looking at other people and do your job. 😆
@@amandadrodriguez get back in the kitchen mam
I am a fire fighter, my wife is a fire fighter, she knows the truth and knows when something is better suited for a man PERIOD. No disrespect to her in any way because she is a rockstar and does an amazing job at anything she does but she is smart enough to know when she can't do the same things I can do. Plenty of things she does better then me but not one of them is in the strength category. She still should be paid the same because everyone is a gear in the machine and we all play our parts.
Dude with two chicks "going a long time now." He ain't in no rush. Lol
Yeah! He didn't want to end it prematurely 😂
Feminism gets downvotes. Be very careful now 😂
WNBA lowers the net a foot and a half and it would be 10x more entertaining
Epic yall did this
In 1983 I owned a business and an associate of mine walked in and stood at my desk, saying hi. Without warning, both his eyes instantly rolled upwards into his head and all I could see were the whites. He tilted his head way back and screamed an unholy guttural scream that almost shook the windows. At the same time as all this, both his hands/fingers stiffened and he slammed them down on my wooden desk top so hard that both hands went thru the wooden desktop. Then he fell to the floor.....silent. I dialed 911, and very soon an ambulance rolled up. Two female EMT's ran into my office, bringing a canvas gurney-type thing with them. We got my friend, who was unconscious....onto the gurney. Now, he was a very short (prob. 5'6') man with big muscles.....weighing over 200 lbs....very compact, strong guy. Once he was placed on the gurney......THOSE 2 FEMALES COULD NOT LIFT HIM UP TO GET HIM TO THE AMBULANCE. They tried and tried.....but could not lift him. Thank God I was there, and one other fellow. Together, we got him loaded up....and off to the hospital he went.....where he died soon after. This was at the very start of this "equality" push. LIsten, in the workplace....such as this ambulance company....they should have set standards that were necessary TO DO THE JOB. Hire only people that can DO THE JOB. If that's all men....so be it. If a female can do this same job....so be it too.....and pay her exactly the same wages as the male. But in this case, the standards for the female hires were lowered just to satisfy govt. mandates...in other words, females did not have to lift as much weight as the males to qualify for the same job. It probably killed my buddy in this case.
Now they have gurneys that lift people automatically so the dudes ain't lifting either. Because everyone's backs were getting screwed.
@@amandadrodriguez Interesting! I didn't know that. Probably a really good development.
Serena Williams would fail to return the serve of most of the world top 100 in the ATP.
It was nice to see the WNBA stood up to COVID policies and still allowed fans to watch the games during the pandemic. Oh wait, they didn't? Couldn't tell the difference between COVID lockdown and average game attendance.....🤪
You steal Bill Burr’s joke?
The Aces pack the Michelob ultra arena every game.
@@UrGirlsTurdCutterChurnedButter I didn't hear Bill Burr use it, but wouldn't surprise me!! 😁
@@christianjennings4343 the arena holds 12000, aces average attendance for home games in 2022 is 5600. I guess that's filling it up...I'm no Steven Hawking, but that's less than 50% attendance, with most tickets selling for $20.00 and lower level seats for $32.00, that's horrible attendance. It cost more to see a AAA baseball game in Vegas and sit in the heat. If the prices rivaled NBA prices, no one would show as the product isn't worth that.
@@BryanW. you actually explained it better but yeah you should check it out! It’s called women failed the wnba and it’s golden
This video is awesome dudes👍
I work at the the Ford Kansas City Assembly Plant. I build F-150s. Pay is based off seniority. It doesn't matter what job you do on the line. There are 3 shifts and each operator on each shift are doing the exact same thing but being paid differently. Also, you guys need to do The Ghost Of You by My Chemical Romance.
Why does this matter? Even with men, you don’t make the lightest boxers fight heavyweights… Everyone tries to be the best in their class. Serena still a GOAT bc she was better than every other woman. She doesn’t need to be better than some random dude because that’s not fair competition.
You're right, it isn't. She was top ranked while this random dude was just a random dude and he still beat her so all of that you just typed was beyond pointless.
@@alexhennigh5242 Being the best female Tennis player arguably of all time is still an important thing. It's just also important to realize that she was the best FEMALE Tennis player. She reached what could potentially be the peak of any woman to play Tennis which is an almost inhuman feat and it's something worthy of praise. You can appreciate and respect it while also understanding that she is far from the best in the entire world of Tennis.
the track and filed was the best one
You guys could watch Fallon fox fight women in MMA, where the women were told he was a woman, and then he went in there and put on the worst show you've ever seen, very low skill, but he used brute strength and won, at one point he broke a woman's orbital bone.
As a woman I know I will never be able to do some things as good as a man.
someone who isn't delusional
Yeah and that’s okay the same applies to men the other way around…
Yeah I agree, we and men are just built differently. God just made us that way.
The Bible calls the woman the "weaker vessel"!. Not weaker mentally, but physically. God made man to be the protector of the woman and children. Women have other wonderful qualities that men don't usually have. We should celebrate femininity and bring out qualities such as gentleness, nurturing, etc. We should also respect men for their strengths, not only physical but courage, fortitude, and loyalty etc.
Guy in the nike tracksuit got some serious Day-Day from Next Friday vibes 😋
"I don't know if this is even a discussion" That pretty much said it all.
I'm not gonna go into detail about what I "Do" believe & what I "Don't" believe about this particular topic/subject matter BUT all I gotta say is; If you make a claim, saying you can do better than "this person" or "that person", regardless of gender or "pronoun", you'd better be prepared to BACK IT UP with Facts or a Physical demonstration. Throughout history, males have had to physically prove themselves to be better or superior than the next man so if you're a woman, female, girl, trans, non binary, gay or lesbian who believes you're either better or "just as good" as Men? Be prepared to BACK IT UP! A physical demonstration will be required to prove your claim is valid. Evidence is necessary.
Please REACT to Eminem Ft. Jack Harlow & Cordae "KILLER (Remix)." It's a remix to a song dropped on Music To Be Murdered By Side B (You guys might want the lyric video.) ❤❤❤
No
Army medic veteran here. We are definitely not the same. When shit hits the fan, can I drag a 250lb+ dead weight to safety? maybe a couple of feet. I definitely couldn't carry him. And this would be at the peak of my fitness level. We are clearly different.
You guys kill me! Lol
Office jobs..... women still make less and it's not athletically based it's supposed to be an merit based. Pshaw. (I have worked in IT for 22 years, sucks making less than men who are not nearly as good as me)
Lies
Emily, it’s been illegal to pay women less for the same job since Kennedy (assuming you’re American). So, if you have the same education, experience, work the same hours, job duties….and are getting paid less based on your gender…..then sue.
@@anneb889 exactly. She’s lying
@savsmiles3042 what would be the point of lying?
@@emilyobryant5083 idk, people lie all the time. Maybe you’re not lying but you’re not telling the other factors of why someone would make more than you like experience or how long they’ve worked there. It IS illegal to pay you less based on your sex if you’re doing the exact same job and working the same hours and there’s not other factors like experience, degrees or bonuses based on performance.
You could get a huge lawsuit if you could prove that they’re paying you less.
I’m a woman and watching women’s sports is so boring lol
My daughter is a D1 Field Hockey player. If men played, she would not have a spot. On a recruiting visit, a team with a two-time Olympic team member head coach scrimmaged with her team. The assistant coach, a man, was much better. Dominant. He hit so hard that the goalkeeper refused to stand in the goal when he was shooting. No comparison.