Love my Koba. Yes there's a blind spot but if you remember your driving lessons, "headchecks, headchecks, headchecks". There's blind spot monitoring and rear cross traffic warning so combined with looking it's really not a problem.
I've just ordered the 2020 C-HR hybrid and am happy to wait the 12 weeks for delivery. I comprehensively tested the C-HR and the Subaru XV hybrid and although it was a close choice, Toyota won. I felt the Subaru had a great driver cockpit, but the technology (the extra screen) would overwhelm me when I'm after all, supposed to be watching the road when I'm driving. I'm happy to pay the little bit extra for the design and styling and especially the fuel consumption. As this car will unlikely ever encounter a dirt road or driveway, the 2WD is fine for me and the AWD Subaru was an overkill. Thank you for your comprehensive reviews on both cars. Having a little bit of information helped my choice.
Good review! I've driven the CH-R a couple of times and I have to say it's a really pleasant car to drive. The design also appeals to me. If I'm brutally honest the CH-R feels better balanced to drive than the Lexus NX300h F-Sport which I have owned.
Totally agree, Bart. The C-HR benefits from a newer and much improved platform - that will actually sit underneath the next-gen Lexus NX when that is released in perhaps 2021.
Great update Tom. Interestingly, the CHR hybrid is offered in two variants in NZ, the “C-HR Limited Hybrid” ($NZ38K) which is the equivalent of the model you were driving, and the base model C-HR Hybrid ($NZ35K) you thought should be available in Oz. Since the markets are so similar I’m surprised it’s not. My impression is that the 1.8 Hybrid in the Corolla and C-HR is not as smooth as the 2.5 Hybrid in the RAV4 and Camry.
@@MrBibi86 wow has it really been 8 months?? WOW!! I can honestly say it's the best little car ever! It's so smooth and easy to drive compared to my other V8 cars! :)
Please keep in mind that this 50% increase in range they falsely advertise, does not mean that regenerative braking will give an 50% range increase! This isn’t going to bump your range from 100 miles to 150 miles. This simply means that 50% of the kinetic energy lost during the act of braking can be turned back into acceleration later. It is important to realize that on its own, regenerative braking isn’t a magical range booster for Hybrid vehicles. It doesn’t make Hybrid vehicles more efficient per set, it just makes them less inefficient. Realistically, Regen in Hybrid will boost up to 5% increase in range only in rural areas and Not in motorways. In highways regen gives you No boost in range at all! Too expensive too!!
Good review. You'll find Lane Trace Assist didn't work well - because it doesn't have Lane Trace Assist! It has Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist. But I love the ride, handling and steering of this car, and the interior still feels "special". If the looks don't suit you there are plenty of other boring boxes on wheels you could buy instead - each to their own I guess.
I've had mine for over two years and it's a great little car. One thing I have discovered is that it needs a high speed run every now and then. It seems to feel better after a 110km/h drive. As for power seat adjustment and power tailgates - they're worthless. I've got better things to do with my time than have to wait for a car to do something I can do in a fraction of the time. Bullshit on the back-seat-view criticism as well. I seriously doubt I have ever turned my head 90 degrees to look at something from the back seat of a car and kids eyes go straight to the electronic device in their lap and they appreciate the fact that the sun doesn't dim their screen. Supa Cheap Auto do a brisk business in side curtains for cars for just that reason.
Chasing Cars . Sorry but it is a bullshit comment. Whether you are sitting down or standing up at the moment try turning your head at 90 degrees to look at something beside you. Then imagine doing it while travelling at 60. It’s a non-issue but people keep saying it because they think it should be a problem. It isn’t.
Quiet strange to see that the hybrid option, which is the main reason to buy a Toyota, wasn't available down under until now. I own a C-HR since 2008 and I'm very happy with it. Even now where it's cold out there my gas consumption hardly rises over 5L.
Anyone viewing this that owns the 2018 XLE Premium? If so are you having problems with a brake sign coming up and alarms going off? It pops up while just driving but mainly when you are stopped at a light. Sometimes it even gives itself gas while Ive got my foot on the brake which makes it launch forward. With the horn blowing and the brake coming up and launching forward is very scary. The dealerships mechanics have no clue what’s causing this. I’m in the US. Any help would be greatly appreciated.BTW car has less than 10,000 miles on it
It must be due to the mentioned heaviness, that the handle for closing the tailgate was changed (180 degree rotated). Was confused for a second when i was about closing the tailgate on loan car when mine was in for service. Small detail but interesting that Toyota has paid attention to it in the facelift.
Yes, it felt a bit backwards. Clarifying that it is a completely different handle (compared to model year 2017), so there is a strong reason Toyota changed the handle. A qualified guess is improved ergonomics!
That’s more or less correct, though I’d point to 2 main differences: (a) the Lexus is available with superior powertrains, and (b) the UX has a more plush interior and slightly better refinement, but that was probably what anyone would expect.
@@chasingcars In some countries like Greece with a crazy tax system the 1.8L is all one needs or wants to stay away from luxury taxes. But to compare this with the UX? I am considering the C-HR 2020 as replacement for my 2014 CT-200h which has a brilliant 1.8L hybrid system (a la Prius)...
@@alecmally5433 i believe that here in Greece, a 2L hybrid power train doesn’t get the same high taxation as a 2L pure petrol. Hybrids are still on lower taxation.
@@iain6281 I was referring to Hoais question who has a C-HR. I know that there are models which are going to get an update, but the C-HR isn't one of them. I'd love to get one since I own a pre-facelift C-HR.
In Europe we get a new 2.0 hybrid with 180hp, cos the 1.2 and, the 1.8 hybrid (122HP) acceleration is underwhelming with between 12-13s from 0-60mph or 0-100Km/h, now day's 8-9 seconds should be standard...
I've taken mine down some pretty rough tracks and it handles them brilliantly. While I wouldn't take it down a full 4WD track or onto the beach, it's still very capable for light offroading. For example... ruclips.net/video/X2gXIuRvkLQ/видео.html
I wish they'd make a body style for adults that didn't look like a Transformer robot. I can't stand the unnecessarily Humongous weird shaped grills, long skinny headlights, and wedge shaped body line trend that makes the car look like it's leaning forward. Too many plasticky looking features. It's not just Toyota doing this, the majority of car companies are using these horrible styling features. Then there's the permanent screen right in your face, it would be nice if they made one that folded down or if you could just fully opt out of that thing. Those screens shouldn't even be legal, people should have their eyes on the road. Other than that, I like it.
Hybrid cars are not designed to stay & doomed to fail. After all why carry two power train every where , pay two maintenance, pay for two fuels, two headaches only to achieve one objective !!! And yet damage environment as there is no Tomorrow...Total madness. I guess taxi drivers & those travelling more than 300 miles a day could benefit from Hybrid cars.
Whoever finds the style hideous is blind and living in the past. People don’t like the style of it just because it looks like nothing they’ve seen before on the road.
Love my Koba. Yes there's a blind spot but if you remember your driving lessons, "headchecks, headchecks, headchecks". There's blind spot monitoring and rear cross traffic warning so combined with looking it's really not a problem.
I just bought a Coba hybrid after watching your review. It is a fun car to drive in town, suspension is surprisingly very comfort !
I am very glad you're enjoying it!
355 messages.... I wouldn't cope!! 😱😱😱 a fantastic review as always Tom.
In the UK we only get Hybrid versions with 1.8 & 2.0L outputs
Not my phone, I swear!
I've just ordered the 2020 C-HR hybrid and am happy to wait the 12 weeks for delivery. I comprehensively tested the C-HR and the Subaru XV hybrid and although it was a close choice, Toyota won. I felt the Subaru had a great driver cockpit, but the technology (the extra screen) would overwhelm me when I'm after all, supposed to be watching the road when I'm driving. I'm happy to pay the little bit extra for the design and styling and especially the fuel consumption. As this car will unlikely ever encounter a dirt road or driveway, the 2WD is fine for me and the AWD Subaru was an overkill. Thank you for your comprehensive reviews on both cars. Having a little bit of information helped my choice.
How much did you get it for and what colour did u order? :)
OMG....I just bought the 2020 Hybrid yesterday with my hubby!!!! Sooo excited...it arrives here in Australia at the end of August!!
Greetings from UK. I love watching this channel.
G'day!
Good review! I've driven the CH-R a couple of times and I have to say it's a really pleasant car to drive. The design also appeals to me.
If I'm brutally honest the CH-R feels better balanced to drive than the Lexus NX300h F-Sport which I have owned.
Totally agree, Bart. The C-HR benefits from a newer and much improved platform - that will actually sit underneath the next-gen Lexus NX when that is released in perhaps 2021.
I have just buy this car a month ago and I loving it more day by day
Good to hear you’re enjoying it!
MPG?
Aussie in U.K. here. Is the 2 litre not available in Oz!? Just stumbled on your channel. Subbed. Great review.
Great review Tom...'B' roll footage was excellent and seamlessly edited into the package. One of the best you've done👍
Great update Tom. Interestingly, the CHR hybrid is offered in two variants in NZ, the “C-HR Limited Hybrid” ($NZ38K) which is the equivalent of the model you were driving, and the base model C-HR Hybrid ($NZ35K) you thought should be available in Oz. Since the markets are so similar I’m surprised it’s not. My impression is that the 1.8 Hybrid in the Corolla and C-HR is not as smooth as the 2.5 Hybrid in the RAV4 and Camry.
In Europe there is also a 2.0 Hybrid of the C-HR that has more power, But don't know if you will ever get it in Australia.
Shame Toyota discontinued the lovely 6-speed manual on the base model. It is great!
I'm picking mine up this Sunday!! Soooo excited! :)
what's it like 8 months later?
@@MrBibi86 wow has it really been 8 months?? WOW!! I can honestly say it's the best little car ever! It's so smooth and easy to drive compared to my other V8 cars! :)
Please keep in mind that this 50% increase in range they falsely advertise, does not mean that regenerative braking will give an 50% range increase! This isn’t going to bump your range from 100 miles to 150 miles. This simply means that 50% of the kinetic energy lost during the act of braking can be turned back into acceleration later.
It is important to realize that on its own, regenerative braking isn’t a magical range booster for Hybrid vehicles. It doesn’t make Hybrid vehicles more efficient per set, it just makes them less inefficient.
Realistically, Regen in Hybrid will boost up to 5% increase in range only in rural areas and Not in motorways. In highways regen gives you No boost in range at all! Too expensive too!!
I bought a new Koba 4WD in September. Feeling better now as it seems my car still holds up to the 2020 version!
Good review. You'll find Lane Trace Assist didn't work well - because it doesn't have Lane Trace Assist! It has Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist. But I love the ride, handling and steering of this car, and the interior still feels "special". If the looks don't suit you there are plenty of other boring boxes on wheels you could buy instead - each to their own I guess.
Glad I wasn’t imagining things then!
My all time favourite reviewer. 👍
Thank you so much!
Your choice between this or the Rav 4 Hybrid just for driving enjoyability? And is it true that this takes 12 seconds to go from 0-100kmph?
The 2.0 engine takes 8.2 sec.
both are ugly!
I've had mine for over two years and it's a great little car. One thing I have discovered is that it needs a high speed run every now and then. It seems to feel better after a 110km/h drive.
As for power seat adjustment and power tailgates - they're worthless. I've got better things to do with my time than have to wait for a car to do something I can do in a fraction of the time.
Bullshit on the back-seat-view criticism as well. I seriously doubt I have ever turned my head 90 degrees to look at something from the back seat of a car and kids eyes go straight to the electronic device in their lap and they appreciate the fact that the sun doesn't dim their screen.
Supa Cheap Auto do a brisk business in side curtains for cars for just that reason.
Just because you don’t agree with one reasonable view doesn’t make it bullshit 🤷🏼♂️ Glad you also think it’s a great car, though. We do too.
Chasing Cars . Sorry but it is a bullshit comment. Whether you are sitting down or standing up at the moment try turning your head at 90 degrees to look at something beside you. Then imagine doing it while travelling at 60. It’s a non-issue but people keep saying it because they think it should be a problem. It isn’t.
Quiet strange to see that the hybrid option, which is the main reason to buy a Toyota, wasn't available down under until now. I own a C-HR since 2008 and I'm very happy with it. Even now where it's cold out there my gas consumption hardly rises over 5L.
CHR came out 2017 so that’s not an option...
Chris Rose oh, I meant 2018 😂
Hope to buy it saturday...love it since release
It’s not even the lastest Toyota 2L hybrid system provided in other markets, like china. If Toyota charge 40k they need to provide that engine.
If your reversing out of a supermarket parking space can you see much as I really want one of these but this worries me .. Thanks 👍
Will this ever come out in the USA ? I’ve been holding out hoping it will. I want something bigger than my Prius but smaller than a rav4
Make sure to lobby your Toyota dealers!
Bright coloured car, sunshine, blooming flowers, rub it in Tom, it’s bleedin freezing here this side of the world
Heh! Sorry!
Is there a way to increase the rear window size? Can this door be replaced with different model?
No, it can't. But there's no need to either, since the C-HR has a rear view camera.
Anyone viewing this that owns the 2018 XLE Premium? If so are you having problems with a brake sign coming up and alarms going off? It pops up while just driving but mainly when you are stopped at a light. Sometimes it even gives itself gas while Ive got my foot on the brake which makes it launch forward. With the horn blowing and the brake coming up and launching forward is very scary. The dealerships mechanics have no clue what’s causing this. I’m in the US. Any help would be greatly appreciated.BTW car has less than 10,000 miles on it
It must be due to the mentioned heaviness, that the handle for closing the tailgate was changed (180 degree rotated). Was confused for a second when i was about closing the tailgate on loan car when mine was in for service. Small detail but interesting that Toyota has paid attention to it in the facelift.
Weird! Wonder why they'd change that.
Yes, it felt a bit backwards. Clarifying that it is a completely different handle (compared to model year 2017), so there is a strong reason Toyota changed the handle. A qualified guess is improved ergonomics!
Test driving the 1.2 litre turbo & 1.8 hybrid soon, be interesting to feel the difference in handling. Thanks for the review.
Is 72kW powerful enough??
excellent!!!best regards from Croatia!
Thanks for watching!
Is this a cheaper version of the Lexus UX or is that an over simplification. I know drive away prices of the UX are 54k or so for the Hybrid
That’s more or less correct, though I’d point to 2 main differences: (a) the Lexus is available with superior powertrains, and (b) the UX has a more plush interior and slightly better refinement, but that was probably what anyone would expect.
@@chasingcars In some countries like Greece with a crazy tax system the 1.8L is all one needs or wants to stay away from luxury taxes. But to compare this with the UX? I am considering the C-HR 2020 as replacement for my 2014 CT-200h which has a brilliant 1.8L hybrid system (a la Prius)...
@@alecmally5433 i believe that here in Greece, a 2L hybrid power train doesn’t get the same high taxation as a 2L pure petrol. Hybrids are still on lower taxation.
1.2litre ?
Love the car and great review. Do you know if I have 2019 model, do I get a free upgrade to Apple carplay and Android auto?
Unfortunately no. Toyota already confirmed that there's not going to be an update for the "older" models.
@@MassimoCerreto I am getting an update for my Corolla Hybrid next month.
@@iain6281 I was referring to Hoais question who has a C-HR. I know that there are models which are going to get an update, but the C-HR isn't one of them. I'd love to get one since I own a pre-facelift C-HR.
@@MassimoCerreto Yeah same here - I did see in mytoyota where you can get the upgrade for $199.00, I Wonder if it is worth it?
Hoai Tran Qaa1
In Europe we get a new 2.0 hybrid with 180hp, cos the 1.2 and, the 1.8 hybrid (122HP) acceleration is underwhelming with between 12-13s from 0-60mph or 0-100Km/h, now day's 8-9 seconds should be standard...
The 180hp 2.0L hybrid would be perfect in this car, I reckon.
@@chasingcars / it is, the price difference between the 1.8 (122hp) and the 2.0 (184hp) is €1k. at the moment. 😇
This guy looks like Ed Sheeran
Would buy one in a snap but I hate the black wheels, and in Australia you can't get the hybrid version without them. Yuk!
I just ordered one, they had an option for 'glossy silver' alloy wheels.
@@rossset2explode729 Wow, that's great! Thanks. (How much more?)
Toyota C-HR is very good - looking. It is good design.
Agreed - it's a good looking vehicle. Not everyone agrees, however!
I generally dislike this class of car. Doesn’t have the space of a wagon and has none of the 4x4 utility. Seems rather unnecessary...
That’s fair enough, Ben. Good thing there are still a few great small wagons around.
BenPBL you can just consider it as a lift up hatch
Toyota already has a 4x4 SUV the 4Runner. The CHR is just for people who need a car with low mileage but still has space.
I've taken mine down some pretty rough tracks and it handles them brilliantly. While I wouldn't take it down a full 4WD track or onto the beach, it's still very capable for light offroading. For example... ruclips.net/video/X2gXIuRvkLQ/видео.html
@@roryasencio9001
4Runner isn't available in Australia, we have Fortuner and Prado instead.
The back windows are awful..!
Doesn’t look like anything else on the road?! Have you seen the Civic’s rear end?
Fair play, the light shape is similar, though I wouldn't say the C-HR looks like the Civic in any other way
The design was implemented before the Civic. Initially this was to be a scion.
Carrocería del 2016 ya es antigua estamos en 2020 cambio ya.
It’s not an suv, it’s a slightly jacked up hatchback
"A crossover"
I wish they'd make a body style for adults that didn't look like a Transformer robot. I can't stand the unnecessarily Humongous weird shaped grills, long skinny headlights, and wedge shaped body line trend that makes the car look like it's leaning forward. Too many plasticky looking features. It's not just Toyota doing this, the majority of car companies are using these horrible styling features. Then there's the permanent screen right in your face, it would be nice if they made one that folded down or if you could just fully opt out of that thing. Those screens shouldn't even be legal, people should have their eyes on the road. Other than that, I like it.
Hieno auto on toyota c-hr 2020 kelta-mustan
Nice but still lacks TSS 2.0 = Fail!
So yellow...
میخرمش
Hybrid cars are not designed to stay & doomed to fail.
After all why carry two power train every where , pay two maintenance, pay for two fuels, two headaches only to achieve one objective !!!
And yet damage environment as there is no Tomorrow...Total madness.
I guess taxi drivers & those travelling more than 300 miles a day could benefit from Hybrid cars.
Prediction fail!
Be honest it's gutless
I own one and it's not.
It's as ugly as sin.
👎
Than by golf. Golf 2 perhaps
Clearly designed by a committee. The exterior is not quirky, it's hideous. It looks like they almost forgot to put the rear wheels.
Highly subjective, I concede, but a lot of people agree with me in thinking that it’s cool, not hideous
Whoever finds the style hideous is blind and living in the past. People don’t like the style of it just because it looks like nothing they’ve seen before on the road.
This is the best looking car in crossover or small suv segment... It is a sporty car for a family of 2 to 3 kids.
@@Murdaking1996 Exactly
I actually fell in love with the way it looks! It's such a sexy looking car...how can anyone think it's hideous??? It's so unique! :)