@@Ibrahim_7D no he’s not he’s just trying not to be rude to people who don’t watch his old videos so he reuploads himself on his own account on RUclips so HE IS NOT REUPLOADING HIS CONTENT
2:40 This is what I call an "upgrade base", a base set up where all the buildings are organized so it's easier to upgrade things. Sometimes people forget to change it back after upgrading their stuff. The Goblin spam is likely so they can get some quick money and go, since he probably doesn't feel like using strategy right now. All the Goblins beings Super makes it so they can jump over walls while being invisible and get money faster than normal goblins. I'm pretty sure everyone has one, I know I and many others do. 7:17 It's a cross hair.
2:44 This is what we Clashers called *"Progress Base"* .... When Upgrading to newer TownHall,we keep separate the offensive and defensive items to keep track of what already max and what need to still upgrade.... and the *Sneaky Goblin* in the army camp because *Sneaky Goblins* are the best *Farming Strategy* out there besides *Baby Dragons*
one thing i haven't seen that people seem to have forgot about is that inferno towers, xbows, and the eagle artillery were like traps they used have to be filled manually or through the town hall where it gave you the option to fill each one of them through there. the inferno towers used to take dark elixir and i think its cool you kinda can still see the vial of it on the side and the xbows used to take elixir and they still have the elixir arrows or bolts and im pretty sure they removed it shortly after the eagle artillery was released im not sure on that
So about the laboratory, mega Tesla, and sparky My theory is simply that the coil holds electricity and what it does with that electricity varies, where sparky and the mega Tesla use that charge to attack, the laboratory holds it to power itself That’s what I think and it seems pretty simple for the most part
I had been playing for a couple years by this point but I remember seeing all the nostalgic commercials come out for clash and lemme just say. Seeing that vr commercial again unlocked a few memories I forgot about with my uncle who passed last year and let me say ty. I wouldn't have ever remembered those if not for this video. Ty.
The guy that was town hall twelve with the level 1 gold storages might not have been hacking. The season bank puts resources in your storages regardless of what your maximum storage is.
@@CastielsFace town hall packs, that’s how, if u buy the townhall 11 pack for example u get the eagle as an unplaced item, and u can place it later without building costs/time costs, but u can also upgrade to th12
Another thing from.back in the day was the fact that you had to refill ur inferno and xbows with dark elixer and elixer on top of rearming your traps. Also troops costed res as well
11:39 about the chinese translation, actually the translation is correct but when you translate the chinese back to english, it lose its meaning. the name 皮卡超人means "pekka the knight/superman". the word 皮卡 is a chinese pronunciation that sounds like pekka, and 超人means superman(which pekka doesnt explains what the troop is so they added 超人in it) but the translation from chinese to english did it wrong by seperating 皮卡超人 into four different words and making it into skin card superman
145 fact already knew. at 15 sparky has bean created from a scrapted laboratory (the coil is also on reguliar tesla). 18 it is also the clan of the traning of capital raid and builder base tutorial. 21 it was imposible if you didn't do a glitch. 37 was a repeat. 42 3 goblins acualy (11:50). 57 a fruit also work i think. 59 is a repeat. 65 not being able to buy flag anymore do not mean it's not suposed to be in the game. 68 it was asked many MANY time. 73 ''secret''😂 it is also on the flame flinger ( it show 6 if it is level 4 and facing left) and the box on the side of th12 to display the level of the giga tesla. 75 evry supercell game are baned. 78 the pole and evry ilegal obstacle are from the goblin map. 79 it is a type of base. 81 it has a lot of bulding level of th13 almost like the th was downgraded and he had 3 barbarian statue. 82 they got negative gems. 83 fake fotage he goes in the editor, put the th, goes in snapshot mode, and place the porly cut hud on top. 87 mega bomb used to do 3x damage to hogs. 90 you can't drop back to 0 trophe becaus of other players trying to do the same. 95 ther is a limit to how much it pile up. 98 it is not a hint just a ctrl-c ctrl-v of the home vilage buton. 108 during all not some. 110 it was used to make "geared up bases" to troll the war matchmaking. 112 every new th made the upgrade cheper and quiker. 118 the last has an op pekka.119 the rarest obstacle.132 it is a crismas exclusive. 135 you can also scrol the troupes. 144 the b0mb tower was also created in clash royal and almost every limited time troop. 145 repeat once agian. 146 it has bean patched. 147 4th repetition. 148 it is in the clan capital. 150 one banana in every cinery costing money.153 a bunch of broken hamer can be seen in the builder base rock (the one on the shore). 155 an other f****** reapeat!!! 155 it is just a guy playing but not rebulbing the clan castle. 156 if you look very closly you can see the door in the top left. 161 repeat (are you a parot😂?). 162 you are a parot or have memory loss. 163 like the 2 preciding one REPEAT (and the stone is not removed). ther are 2 165
Im conflicted whether im happy or upset to have seen this video. This video made me realize how much history of the game I actually never knew, granted I was a kid when I started playing it still saddens me I dont know the game as well as I thought I did. Im also conflicted to claim I have #1 Decorated base in the game when im missing so much history but im definitely still up there.
I've been playing this game since it came out ,and remember most of this,I had 4 square rock and got rid of it long time ago ,now I just have a ton of decorations
I actually have a rushed base with Al lvl 1 walls defences and heroes and troops and a max th13, I just abused the star bonuses, runes from clan games and used raid medals
what I miss so much is when the Builder left and random troops went out to try and build, and whenever a builder's hut with a sleeping troop was there, they'd be a defender troop now
you CAN view a base as it is being attacked. when u have no shield and someone attacks you, click on the notification and it will show you how they are attacking your base so far. idk if its same on laptop/pc/computer
i remember stacking my air defense on my clan castle once never got to see it in action though i accidentally moved my air defense out of the clan castle
Th1 with clan castle is not hacked cause in app purchases overflow storages and it doesn’t actually restrict the clan castle it just shows u don’t have enough elixir for it
For the pekka chinese translation, the sound "pekka" is translated into chinese 皮卡 which reads as "pi ka" which sounds alike (fun fact pikachu is 皮卡丘 in chinese). The chinese translation is 皮卡超人 （pi ka chao ren) which is pi ka superman or PEKKA superman, and the word by word translation of 皮卡 is yes you guessed it skin (皮/ pi) and card (卡/ ka)，hence skin card superman
When I start building my own base on CoC. I always put my headquarters in the middle of the base. With a wall around it, then put my resources around that and then put a wall around the resources. Then put my defenses around the outer wall. Adding more walls as needed. Upgrading my HQ and adding wall pieces to the edge of the base and insert them to the base as I add new resources or defenses.
2:55 this base design is for tracking the upgrades not to defend. He probably forgot to change it back before logging out. Also those are sneaky goblins which is good for farming. So I don’t know why is it on the list it’s funny that you don’t know this
Everything is now very easypeasy I started playing on 2017 that time it is very difficult for everyone because you have to buy and upgrade them then you have to train troops for million elixir then upgrade 6 barracks
For number eight I saw other RUclipsrs do something like this where they used Jim to Jim up to the tower so they made it to town hall 12 or 13 using gyms
While i was searching a base to destory i came across like a level 10 base with just troop camps nothing else . I was confused so i decided to attack it
Well about the clan castle at th 1. There was this event where coc handed out gold and elixir for free in shop. When you collected it, it would take your storages past full and alow you to buy a clan castle before you normaly would.
Alright i remember i attacked a player who had put the townhall all the way at plainsight but in front of the townhall was cannons,storages and defenses
I remember that I was such a pain rearming every trap every time it was attack plus I wasn’t feeling that good at the game when I was playing I’m better now but still
2:45 - Yeah.. That's what most high level bot accounts do, to make it easier for mostly the wall upgrade, but also building upgrade feature. Goblins give it away aswell.
You can overfill your gold storage when buying bundles with resources. So it is possible to have th12 with lvl1 storages. If you bought a bundle with 1200 gems and 20 million gold and you only got 1k because that’s all your storage held people wouldn’t buy the bundles.
165 things people probably don't know because how recently they played the game, 165 things I don't know because how long ago I quit the game. I didn't even know there was a town hall 12.
The reason why the giant had four fingers and then five is because cartoon characters have four fingers and supercell was like “nah this isn’t a cartoon game” and changed it to five fingers
That’s crazy to me that bro made it to level 500. I’ve literally been playing since the game came out all those years ago when I was in 7th grade, I’m only level 192 right now
Says number 8 only has 1 builder but there are 2 builder huts visible. And it’s also possible to get the gold buy buying packs that exceed the max gold
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The same things are being uploaded over and over again.
😅
Literally 😢
Nuh uh
Out of ideas perhaps?😅
@@Ibrahim_7D no he’s not he’s just trying not to be rude to people who don’t watch his old videos so he reuploads himself on his own account on RUclips so HE IS NOT REUPLOADING HIS CONTENT
He mentioned the 4 tiled stone four times
yep, and the oldest clan 2 times
And the ice wizard twice
We took the W 🤫
I'm pretty sure that he just glued together a bunch of videos and didn't care enough to change the already used clips
yeah i was confused he mentioned the same stuff like multiple times, pretty sure its multiple videos combined because of 37:18
2:40 This is what I call an "upgrade base", a base set up where all the buildings are organized so it's easier to upgrade things. Sometimes people forget to change it back after upgrading their stuff. The Goblin spam is likely so they can get some quick money and go, since he probably doesn't feel like using strategy right now. All the Goblins beings Super makes it so they can jump over walls while being invisible and get money faster than normal goblins.
I'm pretty sure everyone has one, I know I and many others do.
7:17 It's a cross hair.
Exactly, like how can someone get so many things wrong in one video
i know it to be a progress base
He was like: "Here is a thing you don't know. Specifically this player has his base in this specific way. Bet you didn't know that"
Guess Hallow doesnt know about sneaky goblins and progress bases
Yea
Definitely
Yep
Huh
Mhm
2:13 Love how you stole my footage without even reaching out to see if it was ok.
Love how no one asked 😊❤
@@happymark1668you do now who youre taking to like stelling footage suck
@@aminatakamara4117 I know it’s sucks it just how he said it plus it’s just a little bit of footage
And you can see the name in the video
He took the W🤫
Seems someone is new to the idea of sneaky goblin farming and progress bases, human error they left it on.
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5:27 gaint is beating the heck out if the king
......
You speIt giant wrong
Fun Fact: those are not Developer Bases, they have Dev Servers for Stuff like that.
Me: Mom can we have Havoc,
Mom: we have Havoc at home.
Havoc at home:
Youre mean
What’s mean about it he makes supercell content like Havoc does
@Peashooter Gaming you do realize this video is just a voice-over video right?
@@jarbs.it all makes sense now my friend look at the Mose recent one
2:44 This is what we Clashers called *"Progress Base"* .... When Upgrading to newer TownHall,we keep separate the offensive and defensive items to keep track of what already max and what need to still upgrade.... and the *Sneaky Goblin* in the army camp because *Sneaky Goblins* are the best *Farming Strategy* out there besides *Baby Dragons*
one thing i haven't seen that people seem to have forgot about is that inferno towers, xbows, and the eagle artillery were like traps they used have to be filled manually or through the town hall where it gave you the option to fill each one of them through there. the inferno towers used to take dark elixir and i think its cool you kinda can still see the vial of it on the side and the xbows used to take elixir and they still have the elixir arrows or bolts and im pretty sure they removed it shortly after the eagle artillery was released im not sure on that
I remember looking for bases that had not filled their x bows n inferno towers lol .
@@jeremeysmelltoast7829 This still happens I think, its just it autofills and re-arms traps for free when you log in.
@@F0UR3V3Rtrue... I just attacked a base where all the inferno towers are dead/unrefilled....maybe the base owner wasn't online for a long time
@@mamahnamte3336 Yeah, its rare especially if your troohy counts high for your th level
i remember looking for bases with depleted xbows and inferno towers and i still do just for a easy attack since im rushed af
So about the laboratory, mega Tesla, and sparky
My theory is simply that the coil holds electricity and what it does with that electricity varies, where sparky and the mega Tesla use that charge to attack, the laboratory holds it to power itself
That’s what I think and it seems pretty simple for the most part
In Fact #80, the same TH3 also has a Baby Dragon along with, well, the E-Drag
When you notice builder hut is the only defence that costs gems to build u can't un notice
I had been playing for a couple years by this point but I remember seeing all the nostalgic commercials come out for clash and lemme just say. Seeing that vr commercial again unlocked a few memories I forgot about with my uncle who passed last year and let me say ty. I wouldn't have ever remembered those if not for this video. Ty.
The guy that was town hall twelve with the level 1 gold storages might not have been hacking. The season bank puts resources in your storages regardless of what your maximum storage is.
the guy had no walls
@@jobaa6632 none that we could see. Not the entire layout of the base is shown, so technically they could just be off in a corner that isn’t visible
Though he lacks a lot of the other things a th12 would have, so it IS most likely a hacked base because it’s be hard to fit all that stuff offscreen
@@CastielsFace town hall packs, that’s how, if u buy the townhall 11 pack for example u get the eagle as an unplaced item, and u can place it later without building costs/time costs, but u can also upgrade to th12
@@Gabriel_Aybar si
34:20 it can damage 9 buildings if they're 2×2 tiles
Try it on 6 huts and 3 triggered teslas
I just started playing again after many years, lol...but I barely remember anything, so this video helped a lot. Thank you!
Pokedot walls is to fill all spawn locations so the Christmas trees spawn outside. Common practice before shovels
Another thing from.back in the day was the fact that you had to refill ur inferno and xbows with dark elixer and elixer on top of rearming your traps. Also troops costed res as well
11:39 about the chinese translation, actually the translation is correct but when you translate the chinese back to english, it lose its meaning. the name 皮卡超人means "pekka the knight/superman". the word 皮卡 is a chinese pronunciation that sounds like pekka, and 超人means superman(which pekka doesnt explains what the troop is so they added 超人in it)
but the translation from chinese to english did it wrong by seperating 皮卡超人 into four different words and making it into skin card superman
Great job 👍👍👍
0:52 At that time th 11 was max townhall. You can see it from his troop level.
145 fact already knew. at 15 sparky has bean created from a scrapted laboratory (the coil is also on reguliar tesla). 18 it is also the clan of the traning of capital raid and builder base tutorial. 21 it was imposible if you didn't do a glitch. 37 was a repeat. 42 3 goblins acualy (11:50). 57 a fruit also work i think. 59 is a repeat. 65 not being able to buy flag anymore do not mean it's not suposed to be in the game. 68 it was asked many MANY time. 73 ''secret''😂 it is also on the flame flinger ( it show 6 if it is level 4 and facing left) and the box on the side of th12 to display the level of the giga tesla. 75 evry supercell game are baned. 78 the pole and evry ilegal obstacle are from the goblin map. 79 it is a type of base. 81 it has a lot of bulding level of th13 almost like the th was downgraded and he had 3 barbarian statue. 82 they got negative gems. 83 fake fotage he goes in the editor, put the th, goes in snapshot mode, and place the porly cut hud on top. 87 mega bomb used to do 3x damage to hogs. 90 you can't drop back to 0 trophe becaus of other players trying to do the same. 95 ther is a limit to how much it pile up. 98 it is not a hint just a ctrl-c ctrl-v of the home vilage buton. 108 during all not some. 110 it was used to make "geared up bases" to troll the war matchmaking. 112 every new th made the upgrade cheper and quiker. 118 the last has an op pekka.119 the rarest obstacle.132 it is a crismas exclusive. 135 you can also scrol the troupes. 144 the b0mb tower was also created in clash royal and almost every limited time troop. 145 repeat once agian. 146 it has bean patched. 147 4th repetition. 148 it is in the clan capital. 150 one banana in every cinery costing money.153 a bunch of broken hamer can be seen in the builder base rock (the one on the shore). 155 an other f****** reapeat!!! 155 it is just a guy playing but not rebulbing the clan castle. 156 if you look very closly you can see the door in the top left. 161 repeat (are you a parot😂?). 162 you are a parot or have memory loss. 163 like the 2 preciding one REPEAT (and the stone is not removed). ther are 2 165
ayooooo chilll
Definitely gonna rea-
I read it all and fr you need to chill abit
it is also almost all copied from havoc or galadon
This is the Mr top 5 of coc
number 9: *straight up forgot to switch back to his regular base from his progress base*
Hallow: 🤔
Im conflicted whether im happy or upset to have seen this video. This video made me realize how much history of the game I actually never knew, granted I was a kid when I started playing it still saddens me I dont know the game as well as I thought I did. Im also conflicted to claim I have #1 Decorated base in the game when im missing so much history but im definitely still up there.
I've been playing this game since it came out ,and remember most of this,I had 4 square rock and got rid of it long time ago ,now I just have a ton of decorations
#32 was the one I loved most, I remember how much I had to do them and I would be quick bc it took so long, good times
Mf mentioned the same thing twice 💀
I actually have a rushed base with Al lvl 1 walls defences and heroes and troops and a max th13, I just abused the star bonuses, runes from clan games and used raid medals
what I miss so much is when the Builder left and random troops went out to try and build, and whenever a builder's hut with a sleeping troop was there, they'd be a defender troop now
I feel so old watching this, i literally remember everything especially the archer queen and bbk cost
you CAN view a base as it is being attacked. when u have no shield and someone attacks you, click on the notification and it will show you how they are attacking your base so far. idk if its same on laptop/pc/computer
i remember stacking my air defense on my clan castle once never got to see it in action though i accidentally moved my air defense out of the clan castle
Yeah i can remember when me and my brother started playing clash of clans that time it was very hard but now its much easier
bro was mad about having to pay to get traps back, back in the day you had to rebuild them lmao
2:25 it's possible with hammer
No, you have to place every building before going to a new town hall. Only TH11 and below can still exist from before that update change.
@@SDseb yes, but he said that he can't up th for storage, hammer won't focus on storage
Th1 with clan castle is not hacked cause in app purchases overflow storages and it doesn’t actually restrict the clan castle it just shows u don’t have enough elixir for it
For the pekka chinese translation, the sound "pekka" is translated into chinese 皮卡 which reads as "pi ka" which sounds alike (fun fact pikachu is 皮卡丘 in chinese). The chinese translation is 皮卡超人 （pi ka chao ren) which is pi ka superman or PEKKA superman, and the word by word translation of 皮卡 is yes you guessed it skin (皮/ pi) and card (卡/ ka)，hence skin card superman
What?
@@ppveryverybig makes perfect sense to me
On 9 it is usually used for upgrading all your defenses and everything to make it more easy to see what your gonna upgrade
Day 121 of asking Hallow to make a brawl stars video
When I start building my own base on CoC. I always put my headquarters in the middle of the base. With a wall around it, then put my resources around that and then put a wall around the resources. Then put my defenses around the outer wall. Adding more walls as needed. Upgrading my HQ and adding wall pieces to the edge of the base and insert them to the base as I add new resources or defenses.
so a trash tier base that maybe works till th 5?
I'm guessing the guy with th 14 is a youtuber who's trying to see how much it will be upgraded if he leaves it alone for like a year or so
2:55 this base design is for tracking the upgrades not to defend. He probably forgot to change it back before logging out. Also those are sneaky goblins which is good for farming. So I don’t know why is it on the list it’s funny that you don’t know this
I remember all these. On my account I have all the decorations for each season every year for a decade.
Everything is now very easypeasy I started playing on 2017 that time it is very difficult for everyone because you have to buy and upgrade them then you have to train troops for million elixir then upgrade 6 barracks
The season bank puts resources in your storages regardless of what your maximum storage is.
For number eight I saw other RUclipsrs do something like this where they used Jim to Jim up to the tower so they made it to town hall 12 or 13 using gyms
tf ??? gyms ...
While i was searching a base to destory i came across like a level 10 base with just troop camps nothing else . I was confused so i decided to attack it
35:11 I did that in 2012 xd, ahh nostalgia idk if you can do that now this days..
Well about the clan castle at th 1. There was this event where coc handed out gold and elixir for free in shop. When you collected it, it would take your storages past full and alow you to buy a clan castle before you normaly would.
Alright i remember i attacked a player who had put the townhall all the way at plainsight but in front of the townhall was cannons,storages and defenses
You can get the clancastle at th lvl. 1 through a offer with gold and through the battle pass screen you can enter the store.
At 2:10 for some reason theres a level 10 Archer Tower Next to town hall even tho all hes defenses is lvl 1
idk bro this guy might be named ken
why is noone talking about the fact that the decorational base with the dragon statue had no defenses and only 1 cannon?
I remember that I was such a pain rearming every trap every time it was attack plus I wasn’t feeling that good at the game when I was playing I’m better now but still
Back in 1969* there used to be bowlers on the archer tower as you can see in the thumbnail👀
That was 43 years before CoC was born
When I upgraded to town hall 7 it was very hard for me to unlock barbarian king but now it has become very easy
I remember multi training hut
Keep up making great content! I find these facts very interesting because most of it is stuff I never knew and it is really cool to learn about.
it is a copy of gagalon and havoc with 6 or 7 reapeat
how about you learn some usefull stuff .. like math history or ... anything else than this bs
how could anyone forget when the archer tower used to be the bowler tower
#8 probably used different ways to surpass gold limit, like season pass
2:45 - Yeah.. That's what most high level bot accounts do, to make it easier for mostly the wall upgrade, but also building upgrade feature. Goblins give it away aswell.
During tumble rumble. I set progress base as active
You can overfill your gold storage when buying bundles with resources. So it is possible to have th12 with lvl1 storages. If you bought a bundle with 1200 gems and 20 million gold and you only got 1k because that’s all your storage held people wouldn’t buy the bundles.
165 things people probably don't know because how recently they played the game, 165 things I don't know because how long ago I quit the game. I didn't even know there was a town hall 12.
You forgot to mention xbow has to be rearm after being attack. I miss the good old days.
0:57, th11 was the highest in that screenshot, just look at the troops lol
Hallow does know about sneaky goblins and progress bases but he didn't talk about that
Sq did legends League Cause at that time Town hall 11 was the highest town hall to reach and his Account was also fully maxed💀
The reason why the giant had four fingers and then five is because cartoon characters have four fingers and supercell was like “nah this isn’t a cartoon game” and changed it to five fingers
0:52 u can see his heroes max so his opponent were not th 14 they were th11 as well
Channels like this make me happy people like Havoc exist
That’s crazy to me that bro made it to level 500. I’ve literally been playing since the game came out all those years ago when I was in 7th grade, I’m only level 192 right now
You can do the th1 clan building if you get a special offer with gold
2:33 he could have bought the gold and elixir with irl money, in that case money and elixir can overflow
i got a clash of clan ad when i clicked this💀
Says number 8 only has 1 builder but there are 2 builder huts visible. And it’s also possible to get the gold buy buying packs that exceed the max gold
lmao if you buy offers they overstack your storages and you can have as much gold and elixir as what’s in the shop at any given time
This is a direct ripoff of Havoc’s vid
I love you 💓 and your content so much that I get excited whenever I recieve a notification of yours ❤️❤️❤️❤️
so 6 or 7 reapeat in one vid PLUS only already knew fact deserve your atention?
@@furiousjumperjuniorbisson4407 I regret my comment this vid was the worst 😔😔😭😭 You're right 👍 I accept my defeat
@@snk2123 sorry if i was a bit rude 😅
@@snk2123 in fact i regret being so aressive...
@@furiousjumperjuniorbisson4407 Nah man that's fine tbh
5:20 I don't get this point. This real time simulation is also a kind of reply only as you are not redoing the attack , it's automatically happening
exactly
with the lightning spell you can damage up to 9 buildings if its in a 3-3
That was a visual glitch, you can't sell back in the day the townhall
and he said that guy only had one builder when we can clearly see two builders😂
don't forget having to spend elixir and dark elixir to re arm you xbow and inferno towers, that was annoying!
The funny thing is I just re-downloaded clash of clans and 115 actually happened to me. They thought I was a goblin
i did the structure stacking once on accident recently xd
if its empty with tiny defences and lvled up things with out walls its an engennired base
2:30 if you buy recourses in the store you overstack your storages
Well, I have something, Nas the Great. I have all the Xmas trees that were created from the first year the game was created to this day.
Btw that one dude you said was hacking probably just bought the needed gold since you can over stack your storages if you buy gold or elixir
You can have electrodradons at townhall three,because you unlock the clan castle so people can give you the electrodragon.
dude that edrag was in the army camp. and secondly you can only have maximum of 10 housing space worth of troops no way an edrag will fit
29:39 And what happens if your attack failed does it just not let you on your base or idk
I remember when i started playing a saw a guy in a clan without a clan castle💀
that base where there is a "hacked" town hall is wrong they can just buy gold regardless of storage or do the season bank
Literally “skip the tutorial” as a clash of clans RUclipsr 😂
you can sell buildings back in the day but you cant sell important buildings it is just a glitch
I was really confused when he starting telling about the same facts twice or thrice, I thought I was dreaming or sum sh1t😂
The last like 30 facts we're repeats from earlier, and he went a few above 165