Writing For The Cello - How To Orchestrate Like a Pro

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @ikaikahudgens
    @ikaikahudgens 7 лет назад +265

    THIS COULD BE SUCH A GOOD SERIES, LIKE BRASS, WOODWINDS, PERCUSSION, ETC IT COULD HELP ALOTTA BEGINNING COMPOSERS LIKE ME AHH!!

    • @mosesramirez6330
      @mosesramirez6330 7 лет назад +12

      So much yes!

    • @sannylad9204
      @sannylad9204 7 лет назад +6

      YEESSSS

    • @kodysamson8750
      @kodysamson8750 3 года назад

      I know I'm kind of randomly asking but does anyone know a good site to watch newly released movies online?

  • @sagarkapoor9892
    @sagarkapoor9892 7 лет назад +204

    For quick revisions later on:
    1:20 detache
    1:58 legato
    5:24 sul ponticello
    6:52 sul tasto
    7:44 staccato
    10:13 spiccato
    12:08 marcato
    14:21 ricochet
    15:34 col legno
    17:01 pizzicato
    18:25 tremolo
    19:48 hook bowing
    23:34 using the frog of the bow

  • @metahed
    @metahed 7 лет назад +101

    BEST. CHANNEL. EVER.

  • @maxjohn6012
    @maxjohn6012 Год назад +2

    That was extremely useful. I'm a pianist thinking of writing for the cello for the first time, and this was fantastically helpful. I particularly appreciated Bryan using the same scale to demonstrate so much of what was covered - that consistency in the material really helped highlight the differences in sound due to the various techniques! Much appreciated :)

  • @mahavishnustravinskij
    @mahavishnustravinskij 7 лет назад +10

    I'm studying cello and composing music. This was a good simple exploration of the cello. What I miss though is to show how much one can do using two or more strings at once. Bach presented so many pieces with two melodies simultaneously on one cello. Bryan Gibson, you probably know this better than I do, I just wish you included it. Pushing the limits of what a cello can do.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 7 лет назад

      Mahavishnu Stravinskij
      That is called a double stop

    • @felixmarques
      @felixmarques Год назад

      There's also harmonics, etc.

  • @FrancescoFiligoi
    @FrancescoFiligoi 7 лет назад +18

    What an incredible player and teacher. This is gonna be an amazing series!

  • @tdubveedub
    @tdubveedub 7 лет назад +3

    This is a great idea for teaching orchestration. Having a live player interviewed and demonstrating the techniques of their instrument is of tremendous value. Thank you for doing this; opening up and inspiring my music once again.

  • @pursharthchawla8306
    @pursharthchawla8306 7 лет назад

    oh man rick you're the best! i've not seen anyone on youtube give such detailed information on the nuances of orchestral instruments and bringing them to people who are mostly programming their orchestral compositions. i'm filled with gratitude...

  • @jerannon
    @jerannon 4 года назад

    Very much appreciate this. I just picked cello up again after 25 years (played it in 6th grade) and this info was really helpful!

  • @vanessajazp6341
    @vanessajazp6341 7 лет назад

    Who doesn't love the evocative sound of a cello?

  • @coltonclement
    @coltonclement 4 года назад

    When I searched for this I never thought I get a Rick Beato vid. This rocks.

  • @jannisbmrt
    @jannisbmrt 3 года назад

    I really hope this series continues

  • @danb2622
    @danb2622 6 лет назад

    Bryan's skill + cello = POWER! I love it!

  • @MacClenney
    @MacClenney 7 лет назад

    Rick, I'm a big fan of your channel. You've got a goldmine here if you could do something like this for just about every instrument.

  • @ZvikaDror
    @ZvikaDror 7 лет назад

    Awesome job Bryan - I so much wish to go back 30 years and pick up the Cello... enjoy music! Thanks for sharing

  • @1000buffalos
    @1000buffalos 7 лет назад +3

    Rick, you are amazing! This brings the articulations in my East West Diamond collection alive with the opportunity to see them!

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 лет назад +1

      +1000buffalos Great! That was the idea!!

  • @goingtobe
    @goingtobe 7 лет назад

    Hi Rick, Even though we can find many things on youtube, many musicians don't have a classical players to demonstrate and explain about their instruments. I know I didn't have and had to work very hard to get example from professional musician which is different then to listen them playing in a concert.
    *Rick, what you have done is AWESOME!!!*

  • @kunzangrangdrol
    @kunzangrangdrol 7 лет назад

    This is so precious to me. Thanks, Rick and Bryan. I use Vienna Symphonic Library, love string quartets. I got the full solo strings bundle which contains all of these articulations you are presenting. Plus the VSL system offers superb tweaking for everything. You can easily stretch out those staccato articulations.
    This is awesome. So grateful.

  • @JureJerebic
    @JureJerebic 7 лет назад

    Brilliant. I have posted this to several film scoring groups on Facebook, with thousands of members (one including Hans Zimmer himself as well). Hopefully everyone gets to see these series!

  • @sprkymrt
    @sprkymrt 7 лет назад

    I like the comments he made comparing the real instruments with the samples people use with their DAWS, and what doesn't really work very well. Makes all the difference when you hear the real thing.

  • @Equinerhael
    @Equinerhael 5 лет назад +1

    You have no idea how badly I needed this video! lolololol I write my own Orchestral scores and without knowledge of techniques of the orchestra, it’s very hard to do. These vids help a lot. Thank you for these.

  • @danieltbassable
    @danieltbassable 3 года назад

    I know this video is old but I got a cello for Christmas (I'm 48), and I figured I had to see if Rick had anything on cello. Score!!

  • @finscontingencyplan7005
    @finscontingencyplan7005 7 лет назад +4

    Hey Rick. Really appreciate what you're doing here. One thing I think that could be a lot of help to these types of videos is if you had little picture in picture frames showing what each articulation looks like when notated. You could possibly achieve this by writing a score for your video with a small title referencing each technique - for instance, start the score with a phrase notated in single bow strokes, then legato (as a slur and using other forms), then how one would notate several notes played on the same string etc etc. I think it'd really help to show exactly how to implement these techniques as a composer that might not have the extensive experience that usually brings knowledge of different notations

  • @lastdaysguitar
    @lastdaysguitar 4 года назад

    Once in awhile I will add virtual cello to my songs - I hadn't given study of this topic any thought, but this video was VERY interesting and helpful. Thanks, guys!

  • @maudonnet
    @maudonnet 7 лет назад

    Once more you raised the bar, Rick! Amazing video, I've been looking for something like this for months. Thank you very much!

  • @marylanders3989
    @marylanders3989 3 года назад

    Thank you Rick for these lessons. I really appreciate them.

  • @sparkleshyguy85
    @sparkleshyguy85 6 лет назад

    I’m a hobbyist songwriter and will probably never write anything with a cello, but I still really enjoyed this and feel I learned a lot. Just to be clear, it’s mostly that I’m unlikely to ever have access to a cellist so that’s why I wouldn’t write for that instrument, but as a guitarist it’s fascinating to learn about the differences in technique. That and yeah, cello is as awesome as I thought it was from the sound of it. :)

  • @reallyreallyryan
    @reallyreallyryan 7 лет назад +1

    I was so pleased to see this in my feed. I'm an aspiring composer and this couldn't have come along at a better time. Good luck with the rest, Rick! Thanks a lot, your videos are incredibly useful.

  • @laertesdd
    @laertesdd 7 лет назад +17

    First after Adam Neely.
    What an honor.

  • @usamahBlackLove
    @usamahBlackLove 7 лет назад +24

    Hey Rick,
    Can you do a video on how to write and orchestrate for French horn?

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 лет назад +62

      I'm going to do a video on every instrument of the Orchestra

    • @usamahBlackLove
      @usamahBlackLove 7 лет назад +3

      Great!!!!!! Can't wait

    • @nakedmambo
      @nakedmambo 7 лет назад +1

      Thanks Rick. When you do other strings like violin/viola could you cover the playing of double stops? The realistic speed of playing stops. I have in mind the problem of viola writing in string trios where it has to add harmony filling in what a 2nd violin would provide in a quartet.
      Will you be covering contrabas yourself?

    • @mosesramirez6330
      @mosesramirez6330 7 лет назад

      Realistic speed for virtuoso player vs. typical professional orchestra player.

  • @grahamwevans9383
    @grahamwevans9383 3 года назад

    Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for a very informative video.

  • @ernielgoh3539
    @ernielgoh3539 7 лет назад

    Thanks Bryan and Rick for the quality content!

  • @JimLane
    @JimLane 7 лет назад

    Thank you for doing this series, Rick - can't wait for the future installments!

  • @nevertheless123
    @nevertheless123 7 лет назад +1

    he is a fantastic Cellist.

  • @frankspears4597
    @frankspears4597 7 лет назад +1

    How about continuing this series Rick for woodwind, brassand percussion.

  • @joshuawallwork1443
    @joshuawallwork1443 2 года назад

    This really helped me write sheet music! Thank you!

  • @jamiroquaiordie
    @jamiroquaiordie 7 лет назад

    got a test next week about orchestration, so thank you a lot for this

  • @TheRolvaag
    @TheRolvaag 5 лет назад

    I just bought the Chris Hein Ensemble strings and I found this very helpful

  • @JustMiluna
    @JustMiluna 7 лет назад +1

    what a great time to be alive!

  • @grasped2
    @grasped2 5 лет назад +1

    Make more of these, Rick! Please!

  • @RayThingProduction
    @RayThingProduction 7 лет назад

    This is so valueable, thank you Rick amd Bryan.

  • @petersmart894
    @petersmart894 7 лет назад

    Good to get another point of view. Glad I took up the guitar though as I would be lost on the cello. However.one cellist my wife always loved to listen to was the great Jacqueline Du Pre, who, unfortunately, died in 1982. First wife of Danial Barenboim.

  • @MasonTorrey
    @MasonTorrey 6 лет назад

    Great video, but I just have to say, what a beautiful cello. That colour is amazing.

  • @charlesgaskell5899
    @charlesgaskell5899 7 лет назад

    Congratulations on a good start to what sounds like it will be a mammoth undertaking. Great to see a real live player demonstrating the different techniques, the differences between live sounds and sampled sounds and also the comments on blending 'live' and sampled instruments.
    It might not be necessary for every stringed instrument, but can cover use of vibrato (and senza vibrato), harmonics (natural and artificial) and con sordino in at least one of the string instrument videos?
    Thanks again, and a belated happy birthday - as a 55-year-old myself, I've realised that we are almost identical in age! ;-)

  • @6riffmaster
    @6riffmaster 7 лет назад

    This was very cool, I love Bryan's work with Chris

  • @Megollyen1
    @Megollyen1 7 лет назад

    You're amazing, Rick! And Bryan is a fantastic and knowledgeable cellist. Thank you so much! I'm really looking forward to seeing more of this series. :)

  • @chrisclarkeML
    @chrisclarkeML 7 лет назад

    Rick! You forgot about battudo! Thank you for this video though it cleared up somethings that I always wanted to know!

  • @ShirshaakRajKunwaar
    @ShirshaakRajKunwaar 7 лет назад

    Thank you both of you

  • @arthurmee
    @arthurmee 2 года назад

    This is a superb video. So informative.

  • @amber1862
    @amber1862 7 лет назад +1

    So fascinating! Loving your diverse uploads.

  • @nickyelovich3872
    @nickyelovich3872 7 лет назад

    Who dislikes this, man? Seriously! Great video. Super Informative!

  • @classicalhero7
    @classicalhero7 7 лет назад

    This series is going to be great. The intro was well done.

  • @reyescisneros1785
    @reyescisneros1785 3 года назад

    I love these videos Rick and appreciate all that you have been doing for the music community! Thank you.
    I agree that it is better to use a real musician with instrument versus a virtual instrument in your orchestral arrangements. However, in November of 2020, I picked up BBC Orchestra by Spitfire Audio and you can articulate many of these type of nuances with your virtual instruments. Its pretty cool, check it out, still not the same but it's getting closer...

  • @lizziebirdsworth3726
    @lizziebirdsworth3726 7 лет назад

    Superb video, thank you so much both of you.

  • @pianogiggles
    @pianogiggles 5 лет назад

    Fantastic video! Very informative! Thank you very much!!

  • @yannickdepauw7930
    @yannickdepauw7930 7 лет назад

    Awesome videos! I actually use the technique with the 8 chairs myself :) But I often ask the player to bring an extra violin, so it's not always the same instrument. Most players have a second one and don't mind bringing it. It sounds a bit more realistic that way.

  • @jimnaz5267
    @jimnaz5267 4 года назад

    wonderful, thanks

  • @knoxvl
    @knoxvl 7 лет назад

    That's awesome! Thank you Rick!

  • @sebastianvarela6468
    @sebastianvarela6468 7 лет назад

    Bravo Rick! you have the chuck norris of theory channels

  • @paulhenty
    @paulhenty 7 лет назад

    This is a great idea for a series, and really well made. Thanks.

  • @Rebecaanddavid
    @Rebecaanddavid Год назад

    So helpful! Great value.

  • @davidkeller9469
    @davidkeller9469 2 года назад

    I assumed you had done videos like this, just hadn't come across it. Good resource for non-string players. How about one that shows off what an electric cello can do? (You've probably done one of those too). 🔥

  • @Axadn
    @Axadn 4 года назад

    Great video! There's a lot of value here

  • @Imagineyourmusiccom
    @Imagineyourmusiccom 7 лет назад

    thank you very much both of you, so useful, fantastic.

  • @Bring_MeSunshine
    @Bring_MeSunshine 4 года назад

    Brilliant, Rick (thanks Bryan) As I move into working with more orchestral libraries and composing in different genre's, I've been picking up some of this information on articulations, elsewhere (RUclips's algorithm kicking in, too), but fantastic to get demonstrations and explanations. Gonna have to go deeper on your cinematic composition vids, next, too

  • @ANGELSVEN
    @ANGELSVEN 3 года назад

    Nice vibrato and lovely cello tone. I wish I knew the year your cello was made and the maker.

  • @clairecooper1754
    @clairecooper1754 5 лет назад

    Wow, amazing series.

  • @russell_szabados
    @russell_szabados 7 лет назад

    Awesome video, very helpful. Thank you.

  • @GaaraOfTheFunk606
    @GaaraOfTheFunk606 7 лет назад +1

    Do a video on your intro music? i'm stumped on the second to last chord in my transcription haha

  • @王振宇-s9o
    @王振宇-s9o 6 лет назад

    Thank you for doing this !

  • @MaxTooney
    @MaxTooney 7 лет назад

    It's very interesting to 'hear' a cellist delineate the deficiencies in string sample libraries. This will be a valuable series.
    Btw, I wonder if the cello is bryan's favorite instrument? He also happens to be one Hell of a guitar player.

  • @jockojohn3294
    @jockojohn3294 7 лет назад

    This will be great. I'm a beginner in this composing venture, so this is exactly what I had in mind doing by hiring a live teacher to show me all this stuff. I will still do that, but now, I'll have some knowledge going in, and won't be a dumb wide eyed slug sitting in a chair saying.....teach me.....I can be a participant. The teacher will probably have more fun too....because I put forth some effort & can interact. Thanks Rick. Of course, all your stuff is top notch. :)

  • @thechisensei
    @thechisensei 4 года назад

    this is gold! tnx Rick

  • @Mtaalas
    @Mtaalas 7 лет назад

    I really liked this. I'm always struggling since I know I should know more about the instruments and the techniques to really improve my orchestration and my composing as well. Technique that has certain sound can be useful as an inspiration in itself. :)
    I hope we get more ^_^

  • @aeronviladomini580
    @aeronviladomini580 6 лет назад

    Hey Rick, have you done any more of these videos? I really enjoyed this one on the cello. I've had a look through your channel but couldn't find any others on orchestra instruments. It'd be awesome to have a look at the rest of the string section :)

  • @camsolo2024
    @camsolo2024 7 лет назад

    For a cool ricochet example listen to the round of the goblins by bazzini. Itzhalk pearlman plays it well.

  • @doubleddrummer
    @doubleddrummer 5 лет назад

    Rick Beato... Coolest dude ever! Thanks for these damn videos!

  • @BoredomEnsues
    @BoredomEnsues 7 лет назад

    Excellent, thank you.

  • @jeradatherton
    @jeradatherton 7 лет назад

    This is awesome. Keep it up Rick.

  •  6 лет назад

    Excellent!! Thank you! :)

  • @rbrooks2007
    @rbrooks2007 3 года назад

    The composer Eric Coates tells the story in his autobiography Suite: In Four Movements where a cellist got on the wrong side of an orchestra and leaving their instrument unattended before the performance, one of the orchestra members undid the bow and threaded the hair and bow around the strings. The result was a cellist fighting with their instrument at start of play much to the amusement of the orchestra. Never cross an orchestra.

  • @Diggsblues
    @Diggsblues 7 лет назад

    Great Lesson !!!!

  • @kabar1211
    @kabar1211 7 лет назад

    Awesome

  • @doubledown9333
    @doubledown9333 7 лет назад

    Great idea

  • @camsolo2024
    @camsolo2024 7 лет назад

    Thanks a bunch for this!!

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 лет назад +2

      You are welcome!

    • @seiph80
      @seiph80 7 лет назад

      I just can't get enough of your channel, Rick! Thanks so much, man!

  • @oscarfogelstrom2070
    @oscarfogelstrom2070 7 лет назад

    Great, thanks!

  • @guitardudeguy3139
    @guitardudeguy3139 7 лет назад

    Is uncanny how you seem to know exactly what I'm working on..I was just writing Cello parts yesterday..for a Christmas song.

  • @advaithjaikumar6403
    @advaithjaikumar6403 4 года назад +1

    Hey, absolutely LOVED this video! You said you'd do one on every orchestral instrument, did that not happen or has it been taken down :(

  • @reallyreallyryan
    @reallyreallyryan 7 лет назад +22

    I have a question;
    I've noticed that with stringed instruments, particularly with fretless, due to the instrument's nature, the intonation varies hugely from note-to-note, and player-to-player, yet when we hear them as an ensemble, those tuning/intonation variations are inaudible.
    I figured this is similar to crowds singing at gigs, where even the most tone deaf of singing seems to build together to be at least half on pitch. (Sorry gig-goers! Haha)
    It's as though the sharp and flat notes add up to produce the average pitch somewhere in between, which is closer to in-key.
    Would you be able to talk about this, and maybe how that works?

    • @reallyreallyryan
      @reallyreallyryan 7 лет назад +1

      Howdy man, thanks for such a fleshed out reply.
      I'm a guitarist first, so all of the factors along the lines of playing the same note on different strings affecting it's character, with all the different factors you mentioned, is something I'm familiar with.
      You mentioning the adjustment of performance in real-time makes a lot of sense, so thank you for that. I had a suspicion that it might just be effectively adjusting on the go, but I figured that this couldn't rule out all of the variation, hence my question.
      When you mentioned me having said the intonation varies, I did say this was due to the nature of the instrument. I was referring to some of what you went on to explain; about the temperament, and the fact that it doesn't have any handy ol' fretwires at all to support consistent intonation.
      I understand entirely why these variations happen, I compose and as such I need a working-knowledge of the limitations/nuances to each instrument's techniques.
      I completely understand why the variations happen, I've played fretless stringed instruments in the past, and it's definitely fighting a losing battle!

    • @reallyreallyryan
      @reallyreallyryan 7 лет назад

      Oops, I almost forgot to ask.
      I still don't quite grasp what you meant about enharmonics sounding differently on strings. Do you mean because of the subtle variation in fingerings D#/Eb would have causing the note to potentially sharp or flat? I would have thought that would be chalked down to bad technique

    • @reallyreallyryan
      @reallyreallyryan 7 лет назад +1

      To be honest, with such a subject that evidently has a huge realm of factors to consider, anything short of a tome wouldn't cover it enough depth. hahaha.
      I'll keep reviewing what you've said, in the hope that it gradually clicks a bit more.
      I'm sure I grasp what you're saying, but I'd like to be sure.
      P.S, the example with my name was brilliant, had me in bits.
      Thanks a lot for taking the time to put your point across, far too often is the case that people just tell you to go screw yourself when you don't immediately grasp what they're saying.

    • @josephbrandenburg4373
      @josephbrandenburg4373 7 лет назад +2

      String ensembles, like choirs, get their distinctive sound from all the tiny differences in what the players are doing. I think the scientists say that differences in pitch as smaller than 6 cents aren't perceived as melodically different. When people hear vibrato, their ears sort of average out the pitch and choose something in the middle. So, when the ear hears a lot of very close but different pitches, it does something similar. You know the effect if you've ever used a chorus pedal with your guitar.
      Another thing to thin about is the physics of sound- the waves from each instrument may or may not be similar in phase. Actually, since they all come from different sources, they're all going to be out-of-phase somewhat- meaning that the sound waves won't necessarily add up. When two signals are out of phase, they cancel and all you hear is what's different. String sections aren't very out-of-phase, since everyone sits so close together, and only the really big differences create noticeable cancellations and interference. And really, the tiny differences in pitch are the same- they go in and out of phase too- just at a faster rate (An aside: that's also what harmony is- a perfect fifth for example features waves that interfere at a particular ratio, three of one wave for every two of the other means that the amplitude of the wave . It produces a sort of W shape pattern that we hear as harmony).
      So what I'm saying is, all the little differences cancel out, and produce a unified whole that also sound different. The big, rich sound of an ensemble comes from all the little differences that also add together, just less than the big similarities. The key to understanding it is to think in terms of waves and how they interact.
      This will help you understand the microtonal thing: look up "just intonation." You'll see for yourself that harmony is just complex interference patterns that are produced when two wave forms consistently meet at some point along the wave. An octave is a 2:1 ratio, a fourth is a 4:3 ratio, and more complex ratios produce more dissonant intervals, a tritone for example is like 45:32. Music has a lot of maths.

    • @seiph80
      @seiph80 7 лет назад +1

      milou80 I have seen this video at least a dozen times, and just now read your post. The information you have given is amazing and invaluable. I had no idea about the lack of enharmonics like a piano on the violin or viola, especially the part where they use even different fingerings for, say, F sharp or G flat. That I just learned right now.

  • @zenithholistichealing5139
    @zenithholistichealing5139 3 года назад

    Are there anymore of these on the channel?? I cant seem to find many. This video was really great

  • @imranino
    @imranino 6 лет назад

    This was so informative! Thank you!

  • @jonnyroxx7172
    @jonnyroxx7172 7 лет назад +2

    Great job and very informative as always, Rick. Love your channel. Could you please add vibrato to the next string segment. Also, what's your opinion of On The Track (book) for film scoring? Fred Karlin was a friend of my composition teacher. Thanks for the great lessons! Peace. JR

  • @Steven_Gifford
    @Steven_Gifford 3 года назад

    Very helpful

  • @vecernicek2
    @vecernicek2 7 лет назад +1

    Rick, do you by any chance know Stephan Braun? Amazing cellist, makes incredible stuff with the instrument. Would be a great follow up on cello if you could reach to him.

  • @rens2998
    @rens2998 7 лет назад

    Really really usefull video

  • @undekagoncz5045
    @undekagoncz5045 7 лет назад

    very helpful! thanks

  • @dalemorris4372
    @dalemorris4372 7 лет назад

    Great as always. How about a Sounding Off episode with Aimee Nolte? Thanks!

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 лет назад +1

      +Dale Morris Aimee is going to be on but I'm not sure when. I talked to her about it a couple weeks ago. Actually before I even started of the show. I was actually on Aimee's periscope show twice about a year and a half ago :)

  • @ShorkGamer
    @ShorkGamer 7 лет назад

    Very helpful!

  • @GSunNo
    @GSunNo 6 лет назад

    Really enjoy your videos :)

  • @Mrjononotbono
    @Mrjononotbono 7 лет назад

    Thanks for this! Amazing You Tube channel. I have subscribed!