Solving Our Education Crisis
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This video is a discussion of Classical education in its Lutheran formulation, and a critique of modern educational approaches.
This is something my wife and I are thinking about as we are getting ready to try for a child. Thank you for your thoughts!
I’m blessed enough to go to a classical Christian university model high school.
Bru, I would of loved that. Ye truly are blessed. Praise God!
@@jeffpickens4467 *would have, not would of. Sorry to be such a stickler, but that mistake bothers me every time I see it.
@@theletterm5425 You sound like you went to classical Christian school 😉
@@LeoRegum Haha, I did not! But it still bothers me. And I am not even a native English speaker!
@@theletterm5425 Your non native experience of English is probably actually to thank for your feelings about "would of". Natives (in all languages) spell words like they sound. The problem with English is that we don't have an objective orthography, which gives rise to homophones, would of instead of would've, etc.
Non-native speakers, once they reach significant competency, are often better at English than the natives.
Especially better than Americans.
I would love to see more on this topic, for sure. Thank you Dr. Cooper!
I don't know how to evaluate this by modern cognitive science or pedagogy, and there were times when the focus on classical languages in higher education was a bit excessive (probably more in the 19th century than the 16th and 17th, and back then in early modernity Latin was still a very practical language as it was the most common second language all over Europe), but there is certainly a way of analytical thinking that is acquired and improved by training in complex foreign languages and the translation of difficult texts, and of course also the composition of text in a foreign language that is valuable but different from mathematical or purely logical thinking
In any case, I don't think it is good that even the highly educated/elite/technocracy of today often know hardly any foreign languages if anglophones or only/mostly English if born elsewhere. It leads to a narrowing of horizon.
You are right about that. To some it could sound elitist but it's not really. Eg one of the reasons Richard Muller is so high impact is he is one of the only ones who bothered to learn the European and ancient languages to make his work even possible, and that's before his unique aptitude in analysis even enters the scene.
Hi Dr. Cooper. I just want to say that i really enjoy your videos. I am a Catholic, and I am so impressed and edified with all of you more "conservative" Lutherans out there. I live near Concordia Seminary in Fort Wayne, IN. Do you know of any Lutherans in that area who would enjoy sitting down with a Catholic like myself and having dialogue -- possibly an interview for a RUclips video? Thanks!
Hi! How are You? I think it would be better to contact Dr Cooper via His email or website, it would be simpler, and You could communicate more of what You want. Take care and God Bless.
@@chrmanlovhum Thank you! i will do that!
You are the only normal person using Reddit. Very helpful video. Thanks
I teach at a private classical academy! I’m glad that you are bringing these issues out to the forefront!
This is one issue that is near and dear to my heart and it's a very important issue for many out there across the spectrum and share our values. it's also an issue outside of your country as this is something that is being forced on us. The same thing is happening here in Australia and I really hope this one goes viral.
Please do more episodes and make this a series
What kind of investigating do you recommend parents do before selecting a private school? Or even a home school curriculum? I’ve heard that even private Christian schools aren’t always safe from gender nonsense and the like, so how do we avoid these schools?
Check out Wittenberg Academy. It’s a confessional classical Lutheran school for all grades. Very inexpensive as well.
Another excellent study, thank you again Dr. Cooper
Do another one, you have my concent jaja. Seriuosly, this is soo important and really few who are talking about this.
The end of this video is so key. We need to get people to think deeply. I am honestly not giving this link as a self-promotion, but just because I think it is a resource: I run a podcast/YT Channel called "Catholicism in the Car." I focus on philosophy, theology, and history from a Catholic perspective -- my main goal is to get people to think deeply. I started a video series going over general philosophical questions which will post a new video at least once a week. Even though it is coming from a Catholic perspective, I think myself and many other Christians are on this same mission. Thanks y'all. If this is inappropriate to post a comment sharing my own channel, I will remove this post. Just trying to help!
Excellent topic and I encourage you to continue to pursue this.
Christians have given up too much of the field. Our "good works" we have handed over to the state: hospitals, caring for the poor, the widow, the orphan, feeding the hungry, etc. But most importantly because it is most foundational, Christians have given away the education of their children.
RJ Rushdooney had a great line, something like: Conservatives complain about a few percentage points increase on their taxes, and then turn around and tithe their children to the state.
This must change.
I'm glad you posted this, especially since I missed your seminar at the convention
I would be very interested to hear Dr Cooper’s thoughts on the Concordia system in the LCMS.
I'd like to see another video on the subject. My husband and I will be homeschooling in the future. The Catechism and Classical learning will be a part of it. (This is Georgie Dee) in Australia classical learning usually only exists in the homeschool model. It may get touched on in a little bit in some high schools but not really, everything is last century or today minus Shakespeare haha. But homeschool is a growing trend here particularly in Lutheran families to go back to classical and Christian philosophies to base their education on. Being someone who doesn't come from a classical training or a Christian family, it's gonna be a big learning curve to incorporate these things for our children.
I would love to hear a discussion with someone you believe has a good understanding on the issue. I've heard there are some who will claim classical who are really just sprinkling in classical concepts while continuing progressive approaches. Looking forward to hearing more as a local school is considering this too.
@54:39 I’d like to hear more! Definitely needed.
I would also like to see more of your analysis of the education system! I think much of it involves the German/Prussian factory model as well.
It sounds like the decision of whether to enroll in public school or parochial school is much more difficult now. For me it was "in the mission field" or "in a protected environment" and I was one of the few that choose the public school mission field and hands on learning. I'm not so sure I would make the same choice today.
Thank you Dr cooper
I'm listening to you because I followed a Twitter suggestion to a Twitter account that was sharing your YT and I'm drinking wine and, well, Jesus turned water into wine.
Already love the thematic jojo, thank for talking about this.
I think one of the most damaging things that developed over the 20th century was the idea that schooling equals education, but they aren’t related, they’re just doppelgängers.
I'm nauseus with worry for my children. My firstborn is now 6 and entering the school system here in Finland. Needless to say the system is in the vise-grip of "value neutral" iltellectualism, which is, as presented in this video, bursting at the seams with values of false respect of human life, irresponsible neglect of the fellow man, gutless approach of what freedom is and all the moods of whatever seems nice to say to the noisiest, most emotionally driven part of society at the moment.
I don't know how to prepare my children for this beast. Of course I've been calmly and consistently speaking of how the truth about man is not something we would naturally like to hear - of Jesus, sin, the ignorance of man towards man's plight, God's grace and love for us all, prayer, hymns - all in, I hope, good form. In many different situations, in many different ways. I've tried not to use key and chain but simply to teach as the Bible reveals the situation of man to be.
Is this enough? I don't know. I am in turmoil, my mind is worn and my heart distraught.
God help my children, I cannot help them.
Remember to pray
I would have liked to have been able to teach my kid critical thinking skills. She is now 21 and doesn't know how to think through things critically. The second she starts getting pushed on anything, she folds and quits, just like she did on school.
More, please!
What do you think of Catholic Schools? I know they aren’t perfect and ideal, but I’m a non-Catholic reformed Christian that works in one to avoid teaching in the public school system. They at least teach a Christian worldview. Any thoughts?
I was a student teacher in a Catholic School. Their religion curriculum was quite Biblical even by my Lutheran standards. They did ask students to say the Hail Mary each morning. But in my opinion, that's the least objectionable of the various prayers to saints you could ask for.
I support a more classical education, but not necessarily the teaching of Latin to our high school students. I would replace it with a foreign language that is both useful for research and is still spoken, and so probably replace Latin with French or German, like in modern day Scandinavia. I would still teach Greek, however, as it is both used as a research language and is still alive and well today (and I just came back from Crete so I am still a bit biased in their favor).
Have you read Education's End: Why Our Colleges and Universities Have Given Up on the Meaning of Life by Anthony Kronman. He says the same thing but from a secularist, that we need to restore the teaching of humanities. He acknowledges that education before the middle 1800s was to help young people find meaning in life by serving God.
I live in a small town in Mississippi. We still have prayer, creationism, and abstinence taught in our public schools. But if I was being honest as a white socially conservative Democrat, I think we should devote 80% to 90% to PE. To me that would fix public education. Association football (aka soccer ⚽) is the only reason that I would send my lad to a public or a private school. If not for football, I would keep him home, and homeschool him instead.
Great stuff, and thank you for sharing. More of the same would be welcomed by me, to be sure, and I really appreciate what you laid out here.
0D = (point):
[Math; Geometry]
A point is a 0-dimensional mathematical object which can be specified in -dimensional space using an n-tuple ( , , ..., ) consisting of. coordinates. In dimensions greater than or equal to two, points are sometimes considered synonymous with vectors and so points in n-dimensional space are sometimes called n-vectors.
[Math; 4D quaternion algebra]
A quaternion is a 4-tuple, which is a more concise representation than a rotation matrix. Its geo- metric meaning is also more obvious as the rotation axis and angle can be trivially recovered.
What do we mean by tuple?
In mathematics, a tuple is a finite ordered list (sequence) of elements. An n-tuple is a sequence (or ordered list) of n elements, where n is a non-negative integer. There is only one 0-tuple, referred to as the empty tuple. An n-tuple is defined inductively using the construction of an ordered pair.
In mathematics, a versor is a quaternion of norm one (a unit quaternion). The word is derived from Latin versare = "to turn" with the suffix -or forming a noun from the verb (i.e. versor = "the turner"). It was introduced by William Rowan Hamilton in the context of his quaternion theory.
How do you make a quaternion?
You can create an N-by-1 quaternion array by specifying an N-by-3 array of Euler angles in radians or degrees. Use the euler syntax to create a scalar quaternion using a 1-by-3 vector of Euler angles in radians.
[Biology]
Points, conjugate. (Science; Microscopy) The pair of points on the principal axis of a mirror or lens so located that light emitted from either point will be focused at the other. Related points in the object and image are located optically so that one is the image of the other.
(See: polarizing element)
(Time) = length, breadth, depth:
According to theoretical physicist Carlo Rovelli, time is an illusion: our naive perception of its flow doesn't correspond to physical reality. Indeed, as Rovelli argues in The Order of Time, much more is illusory, including Isaac Newton's picture of a universally ticking clock.
Does time exist without space?
Time 'is' as space 'is' - part of a reference frame in which in ordered sequence you can touch, throw and eat apples.
Time cannot exist without space and the existence of time does require energy.
"Time is an illusion." -Albert Einstein
I see a trend amongst many Christians talking about our current cultural moment. Its easy to point out the sexual aspect of the modern secular religion, but when it comes to the racial aspect they fumble hard, incapable of addressing it or if they do, they treat it flippantly in comparison to the sexual aspect, or even worse, they attack those Christians that are willing to call it out boldly. Its not as clear cut an area as the sexual aspect, but thats what makes addressing it all the more important, as seemingly good Christians fall for the secular religion with regards to it time after time.
Are there any places for us to go to start promoting Lutheran Classical Education
Your church, friends, family, hold community events related to the schools/curriculum.
There is one little think I want to say as a argentinian in the South. If there is no money, there is no humanity, even science in general. There in the North are more guilty of this because you do have more wealth to expende in this things, we don't. But, we still are guilty of this kind of thinking because we are living in a capitalistic and materialistic culture who don't value the formation of character, but another BUT, we don't have the money to expende in anything else, sad reality.
Whenever I see the comment that Christian ideals, or maybe even Christianity itself, are white in nature, I just point out that I literally worship a Mideastern man.
Is Douglas Wilson "controversial" (as you said), or is he polemical? I understand that he is Reformed and we are Lutheran, and we won't see eye-to-eye with him on many topics. Given that fact, I am grateful to see you recommending his book at all. But I think we would do better not to call our friends "controversial" if they are merely provocative. After all, wouldn't that make us better heirs of Martin Luther's heritage? I think he was "controversial" (or deliberately "salty") in much the same way that Douglas Wilson is.
He is both. He is a great resource on this topic, but as a former confessional Reformed Presbyterian, now confessional Lutheran, yes, his theology is controversial, beyond his "saltiness." I don't mean that as an attack, just wanted to weigh in on your question as someone who's been in both camps.
@@salishheights2320 I suppose I'm a little sensitive to that particular word ("controversial"). It seems to me that people tend to use it when they want to imply that someone has earned revulsion and scorn from other people without clearly saying whether they believe those people are right. I remember a historian describing Victor Davis Hanson as "controversial" without saying why. And I'm thinking to myself, "Well, I like V.D.H. and so if this guy can't say anything about the nature of the 'controversy,' then he has just lost a lot of credibility with me." Now, I like Jordan Cooper a lot, and as a confessional Lutheran I recognize significant problems with Wilson's Reformed theology. But controversial? I think Wilson has made a whole bunch of the right kind of enemies, and it would be a shame to give them aid and comfort by obliquely describing Wilson as "controversial," when it is pretty clear (to me) that at least some of the controversy surrounding him is the result of malfeasance on the part of his accusers (as happens to be the case for V.D.H. and anyone else who has convictions grounded in the recognition and assertion of objective truth).
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I think people in general should be exposed to more ancient literature. Not just European, but also Chinese and Indian literature.
An Angstrom of a particle is still 1D-9D contingent universe. Composite substances.
0D (point) is exact metaphysical location only. Zero size.
Non-composite substance. Not a thing. Not a part. Monad. Soul.
Megatonnage of the purest irony in the symbol of physics being the symbol of metaphysics.
[1st dimension]
0D = (point); non-composite substance; 'represented' by a dot.
[2nd dimension]
1D = line; two points; beginning and ending (see 1D, 4D, 7D Symmetry); composite substance; physical
1st four dimensions are 0D, 1D, 2D, 3D ✅.
1st four dimensions are not 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D 🚫.
Humans, mathematically, are identical to 4D algebra unit (possibly Scalar) quaternions with w, x, y, z being (0D, 1D, 2D, 3D) and i, j, k being contingent (1D xi, 2D yj, 3D zk). n-tuple and 4-tuple.
'Time' is an illusion. 1D-9D 'contingent' universe has "conscious lifeforms" (1D xi, 2D yj, 3D zk)..."turning" 'time'. We're unit quaternion "turners", here.
Our 0D (metaphysical) point is each of our exact location only. Incorruptible. Invincible. Eternal. Very much not affected in any way by the totality of the 1D-9D contingent universe.
3 sets of 3 dimensions. The illusory middle set (4D, 5D, 6D) is temporal. Id imagine we metaphysically create this middle set similar to a dimensional Venn Diagram with polarized lenses. Consciousness is "to turn" (time).
1D, 2D, 3D = spatial composite
4D, 5D, 6D = illusory temporal
7D, 8D, 9D = spectra energies
1D, 2D, 3D line, width, height
4D, 5D, 6D length, breadth, depth
7D, 8D, 9D continuous, emission, absorption
Symmetry:
1D, 4D, 7D line, length, continuous
2D, 5D, 8D width, breadth, emission
3D, 6D, 9D height, depth, absorption
Gravity is flawed.
Center of contingent universe 1D-9D is 5D. All things are drawn to the center, the whole. That's "Gravity".
Our universal constants have convoluted answers. Leibniz Law of Sufficient Reason fixes this.
FUNDAMENTALS > specifics
Leibniz > Newton
labor (tamen praemialissimus) est domi erudire. fortasse si plures fideles scholae christianae cum curriculis classicis essent, pauciores parentes pueros eorum domi docerent. itidem Doug Wilson multas scholas inspiravit et vero quod fecit laudandus est. nescio cur homines territi sunt eum honorare.
utique res bona est quod ecclesia postremo iterum educationi attendit!
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