I love my 2021 Toyota Corolla Hatchback with 6 speed! The handling and the torque band in 2nd and 3rd gear makes it so much fun to drive, btw I'm almost 60. Lol.
I got my brand new SE manual in Jan 2021. It stickered for 20,425. No mark up. Then the chip shortage hit. I love the heck out of it. The car.. not that chip shortage. BTW.. a Kroger size bag of Doritos is 4.50 Nov 2023. I barely like Doritos anyhow.
With the manual transmission, its the best small car. Period. Be sure to change the oil at 1000 miles and then every 3000 miles thereafter. Use Toyota specified oil and filter. It will never die then. Great vid. Thanks.
@@michaelhinson424 Yes that’s the factory recommendations. I bought a 2021 XSE hatch 6 speed. When I took it in for the first 6 month/5k service under the Toyota Care program they didn’t change the oil.
@@patrickhilton9253 This can turn into a raging debate. For me, oil is cheap - engines aren't. And since the oil change is extremely easy on the Corolla, its an easy decision. I'm holding onto my fabulous hatch forever (I've got a 37 year old Civic hatch). 🕶
Just get the GR. Tell Toyota that a limited production run of their GR is not going to be enough, and we won't pay a dime over msrp for one at the dealership.
Toyota Liftbacks in the 1970's weren't performance monsters. They were attractive, SUPER reliable and supremely functional - tons of value for your money. You'll get tired of looking at it before it dies.
Had an order for one of these in Flame Blue, but that ended up dragging on and on. Managed to find a gently used '21 6MT in Galactic Aqua Mica about a month ago without paying too too much more than I wanted(considering the used car market being what it is). It's been an excellent car. Close to 40mpg on my work commute and in the 30s around town; the chassis feels great, the clutch and shifter feel pretty good... overall it's a great daily. I didn't particularly feel like paying the kind of premium and markup the GR is going to have; that and I already own a Celica GT-Four and I'm not planning on giving that up.
Oh man I can't wait for the gr corolla to come out, hopefully I can afford it by then! Since yesterday it's become my dream car, previously was the mk3 supra that I had but sold it and regretted it. I love the engine sound and it's in my favorite chassis of corolla
I would wait as long as needed for this car, manuals are non existent these days and nothing is more fun to drive. CVT’s…make me throw up thinking about them. I’ve been looking for the past few months to get a replacement for my 07 Corolla. This is the only I think will keep me happy. Placing order next week.
@@thedjjj9702 I’m in the same boat. Waiting on one that’s on a cargo ship now. You better hurry up if your serious because when they switch to 2023 production that’s it for manuals. It’s a damn shame
I test drove it early this year and missed the opportunity to buy one, the car is so quiet that it kind of makes it difficult to get a feeling on the gears, I'm sure you get use to it
How did you go through the ordering process, how much is the deposit and did they check your credit or is that until it arrives? I'm trying to order one myself
@@Inline-Four I went through my local dealer; they let me build it with the options I wanted since Toyota is currently accepting custom orders, which is rare. The deposit was $500 and they asked for insurance info, etc. I believe they did a soft credit check that day and we discussed financing in general terms, but that was not finalized until I came to pick up the car. It was 3.5 months from the time I ordered until the time it arrived, but they kept me updated the whole time and I am very happy with my new Corolla 😊
Wow this shit helps you so much…older systems will make a fool out of you if you don’t connects with your vehicle after Hours of driving…I love manuals I tend to slack off on a slush box…It’s a matter of safety…
I wish Mazda had not discontinued the manual on the Mazda 3. That combo with the turbo 2.5 would be awesome. Mazda does make a better manual than Toyota.
Toyota also discontinued the manual. It goes like this: new car comes out, people want a manual option. Manual comes out, nobody buys it. Manual gets cut, people complain. Manufacturers aren't going to do it anymore. Buy them new and there won't be a problem. Waiting for a used one to hit the market is the problem.
You need to understand something. It's easier to sell a young man's car to an old man than it is to sell an old man's car to a young man. Plus, youth is wasted on the young. That being said, we may age, but we are all stuck at 23 years old in our heads. So if you are over 30, you'll know what that means.
Yes! Practically the best for learning the basics but if you want to get more advanced with car control, you'd need to switch from front wheel drive to rear wheel drive like the Toyota 86.
Autohold is for hillstarts. I had a Se'at Ibiza diesel rental car (46mpg) in Spain that did it automatically. I like the hatch, the stick, the light interior, the gauges, nice car. Ok I guessed $24 but I wanted it to be $19k ok I guess I was right but that's an obscene price. I'd rather not have all the doodads and just have gauges and pay $15k.
@@RoadandTract You're a millennial. Ok Acura RSXs were $24k and were a fast solid car. They were also hatchback and fit a lot of cargo and they looked slick. Put that in perspective. Corolla is an econobox and shouldn't be over $19k. You just don't know the value of the dollar and it is people like you encouraging inflation. Also, I'm really disappointed at the appearance of the Corolla hatch. It looks like a Nissan Leaf. Carmakers have forgotten hatches don't have to be eggs. There's a Mondeo hatch.
I needed a car back in 2020. Went to 3 Toyota dealerships in Houston (my home town) and NONE of them had any Corollas available in a manual transmission that I wanted except one of them had this ugly baby blue colored one with a manual. NO thanks. That color alone was a deal breaker for me. In fact, I wanted THIS one in the video. Two tone exterior black and white with two tone interior black and white with, of course, a manual transmission. Also, what is quite perplexing is why do they ONLY offer the Toyota CH-R in a manual in other countries, but not in the U.S. That is ridiculous. 🤦
Actually, the MSRP was just a bit over 23.7K. This car had options added like the adaptive headlights and some cosmetic things that bumped the price up.
Curious, other than for tracking or drifting, what makes you prefer a manual rear brake? More parts to service and maintain, per working on mine DIY ('05 Corolla XRS 2ZZ-GE)
There were about $3k worth of add ons which seems a bit much ....things like carpet mats costing $250 and " special color" costing $500...seem a little over the top. Sorry, but floor mats should be standard along with the paint. But the real stand out was the $1025 for " delivery processing handling fee"--wow that seems excessive as well.
@@RoadandTract transporting the vehicle to the car lot .....that cost is already factored into the MSRP....that is nothing but an add on. In normal times, you can haggle over it, but today, with demand, probably not.
Does the USA Spec corolla come with blind spot warning system? Is USA Spec model corolla more reliable than camry? Between both USA SPEC models which car will be more reliable and durable? Which car will cost less to maintain and replace wear items/parts? What is the weight of the camry?🤔 I like the fact that this Toyota corolla is made on JAPAN.👍 The camry isn't made in japan🤮
Hey everybody, I'm wondering if the 6-speed manual is a better performance transmission vs the CVT transmission? I know that these Corollas are not for racing, but these Corollas can be improved to a point. I would think that the CVT transmission is not made for performance and aggressive driving. Everybody will drive their cars as fast as possible, and you know that you have always wanted more power when you need it. This low cost Corolla has substantial aftermarket parts that are available to improve its performance. I want to buy one, but (not) with the CVT transmission...
around 11:24 when you did that pull, what was that orange blinking light on the dash by the revs that appeared when you did the pull then went away after you tamed off?
But it is dangerously slow! I mean life or death. Trying to get on the highway and I ran out of curb. I mean you have to absolutely nail it and you still only get up to 55 on the on ramp. You are such a joke! Done with your inconsistent videos!
I just received my 2022 hatch manual one of the last ones made 2023 hatch discontinued the manual I got the SE I wanted the more comfortable tires. Ai like your interior better.. I did get the white pearl with black roof I had to get what ever was coming in waited five months I paid MSRP
Nice little car but the rev matching is a gimmick, it needs a real handbrake and the lack of a spare wheel is a deal breaker. Hit a pothole out in the middle of nowhere and bend your rim which will happen with those low profile tires and that tire kit won't do squat. Add in no cell service and you're walking out of there.
I really wanted to like these.. I drove one, it was small, cramped, and hard to see out of, and while i do understand the IMT, i really think a manual transmission should have a traditional E-brake. Also, these aren't that light.. 3060 with 168Hp. Vs something like a base VW GTI that's 3K more expensive, weighs 90lbs more, but has almost 100HP more and over 100Lbft of torque more.. For what it is, it's expensive, and not really worth it.. that said, the new Corolla GR is set to hit the shores of the US in August 2022. Which is this chassis, 247HP and 301Lbft with only a manual transmission.. Fingers crossed we get that, as at that point i wouldn't care about the visibility or cramped seating for basically a new wave GT4 Toyota.
@BuddyTheCat I have Corolla GR Circuit on order.. So i hear ya.. but dollar for dollar if you're just looking at value for performance, the GTI is a much better vehicle to drive, not to own long term or to compare reliability, or even resale value. Just straight up performance, it's hard to beat.
I agree, feels fast and fun, and more importantly, nimble handling! Obviously, performance numbers tell a different story, but it's about feeling and engagement! 😃
You can't order and negotiate. Just like real estate, sellers get more anxious to sell as each day passes. Cars get sold within 7 days. Dealers can wait a week for the right buyer. When you order, it sold in 0 days. No room to negotiate, but you can get the price in writing and if you can accept paying full price, you are on target. Never pay over sticker.
All dealers will go down in price if you walk out on them especially if you’re a serious customer w money and good credit. They aren't selling Mona Lisa’s just mass produced cars. Unless your going for something super rear or need to be first to own something don’t pay over sticker.
@@RoadandTract I guess going to drive them both is the next step. If the GR hatch comes in AWD that would be good for snow. I doubt the Civic R hatch would do AWD.
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I love my 2021 Toyota Corolla Hatchback with 6 speed! The handling and the torque band in 2nd and 3rd gear makes it so much fun to drive, btw I'm almost 60. Lol.
I have’21 Corolla Hatchback 6MT too. Of course I love it. I’m 56 😅
I am almost 18 and im hoping by the time im 20 i have one of these
How much is it? I know they lie until you get to the dealership
@@fedeb727 Toyota dealerships have a good rep if not marking prices up
I got my brand new SE manual in Jan 2021. It stickered for 20,425. No mark up. Then the chip shortage hit. I love the heck out of it. The car.. not that chip shortage. BTW.. a Kroger size bag of Doritos is 4.50 Nov 2023. I barely like Doritos anyhow.
With the manual transmission, its the best small car. Period.
Be sure to change the oil at 1000 miles and then every 3000 miles thereafter. Use Toyota specified oil and filter. It will never die then.
Great vid. Thanks.
I do prefer this manual over the Mazda 3 hatch manual.
I was told to change the oil every 10,000 miles!
@@michaelhinson424 Yes that’s the factory recommendations. I bought a 2021 XSE hatch 6 speed. When I took it in for the first 6 month/5k service under the Toyota Care program they didn’t change the oil.
@@michaelhinson424 Check out "The Car Care Nut" here on Tube. He's a Master Toyota Mechanic and says change the oil at those intervals. Good luck.
@@patrickhilton9253 This can turn into a raging debate. For me, oil is cheap - engines aren't. And since the oil change is extremely easy on the Corolla, its an easy decision. I'm holding onto my fabulous hatch forever (I've got a 37 year old Civic hatch). 🕶
If only they offered the 2.5L naturally aspirated engine from the base Camry as a trim level below the GR Corolla. It’d be a gem of a hatchback.
Just get the GR. Tell Toyota that a limited production run of their GR is not going to be enough, and we won't pay a dime over msrp for one at the dealership.
Toyota Liftbacks in the 1970's weren't performance monsters. They were attractive, SUPER reliable and supremely functional - tons of value for your money. You'll get tired of looking at it before it dies.
Had an order for one of these in Flame Blue, but that ended up dragging on and on. Managed to find a gently used '21 6MT in Galactic Aqua Mica about a month ago without paying too too much more than I wanted(considering the used car market being what it is). It's been an excellent car. Close to 40mpg on my work commute and in the 30s around town; the chassis feels great, the clutch and shifter feel pretty good... overall it's a great daily.
I didn't particularly feel like paying the kind of premium and markup the GR is going to have; that and I already own a Celica GT-Four and I'm not planning on giving that up.
Wow, that's some great mileage.
Love modern manuals with cool features like auto rev matching 😎🔥
Opinion: the auto rev matching tech burns out clutch faster than you rev matching it yourself.
@@volt6008 oof 👀 thats bad news
Can it be disabled?
@@illuz1oN44 yeah, just click the imt button.
Oh man I can't wait for the gr corolla to come out, hopefully I can afford it by then! Since yesterday it's become my dream car, previously was the mk3 supra that I had but sold it and regretted it. I love the engine sound and it's in my favorite chassis of corolla
GR Corolla or GR Yaris
Gr corolla, it's supposedly coming out in October 2023. It's been heavily teased in toyotas page on Instagram. I'm so excited for it man!
I love this video and it goes into reverse just like my old Suzuki Reno! (Search cannon 330 hs test). Love love love having reverse lockout.
Had to wait 6 months after I placed my order, but it was definitely worth it. Great car!
Put my deposit down in June. Supposed to be built the 28th of feb, and get here week 1 or 2 of March. Fingers crossed 🤞
I would wait as long as needed for this car, manuals are non existent these days and nothing is more fun to drive. CVT’s…make me throw up thinking about them. I’ve been looking for the past few months to get a replacement for my 07 Corolla. This is the only I think will keep me happy. Placing order next week.
@@thedjjj9702 I’m in the same boat. Waiting on one that’s on a cargo ship now. You better hurry up if your serious because when they switch to 2023 production that’s it for manuals. It’s a damn shame
How are you guys placing orders? :O
I test drove it early this year and missed the opportunity to buy one, the car is so quiet that it kind of makes it difficult to get a feeling on the gears, I'm sure you get use to it
Throw on an aftermarket exhaust and problem solved!
ordered mine mid-November and just got the call that it'll be delivered next month. can't wait!
Congrats!
How did you go through the ordering process, how much is the deposit and did they check your credit or is that until it arrives? I'm trying to order one myself
@@Inline-Four I went through my local dealer; they let me build it with the options I wanted since Toyota is currently accepting custom orders, which is rare. The deposit was $500 and they asked for insurance info, etc. I believe they did a soft credit check that day and we discussed financing in general terms, but that was not finalized until I came to pick up the car. It was 3.5 months from the time I ordered until the time it arrived, but they kept me updated the whole time and I am very happy with my new Corolla 😊
watching this today when gas prices are literally above $2 a liter in Canada 😭 i'm so excited to get my new corolla now
the cable that goes for the android auto is next to the glove compartment
my gf is getting one soon and we’re both looking to learn manual in it can’t wait!
Wow this shit helps you so much…older systems will make a fool out of you if you don’t connects with your vehicle after Hours of driving…I love manuals I tend to slack off on a slush box…It’s a matter of safety…
Yup!
Missing those TDI roadtrips 👍
I heard a reviewer say the iMT had no clutch in the car it was just a 2 pedal car
#tiktoktaughtme
I got my 2021 Camry SE 2 years ago for $25k. MSRP was little over $27k. Manual is fun but more than what I paid for my 2021 Camry SE, no thanks!
I wish Mazda had not discontinued the manual on the Mazda 3. That combo with the turbo 2.5 would be awesome. Mazda does make a better manual than Toyota.
Toyota also discontinued the manual. It goes like this: new car comes out, people want a manual option. Manual comes out, nobody buys it. Manual gets cut, people complain. Manufacturers aren't going to do it anymore. Buy them new and there won't be a problem. Waiting for a used one to hit the market is the problem.
Why does the "Nightshade" version get so much better gas mileage? Is there really that much of a weight difference....🤔
Cvt transmission on nightshade model make the car drive on very low rpms so less waste of fuel ⛽️
auto hold for the lights? that for when youre stopped so you dont have to hold the break.....
Yes. Brake hold.
Had me 😂🤣 on “uncle joe”
And that was 6+ months ago!
I wouldn’t say is for younger audience.. I see a lot of people over 35 with this vehicle.
Nice car also.
You need to understand something. It's easier to sell a young man's car to an old man than it is to sell an old man's car to a young man. Plus, youth is wasted on the young. That being said, we may age, but we are all stuck at 23 years old in our heads. So if you are over 30, you'll know what that means.
@@RoadandTract 😂 that’s true is definitely easier. I see your point haha
Is this a good car to learn manual?I know how to drive manual I just never have.
Yes! Practically the best for learning the basics but if you want to get more advanced with car control, you'd need to switch from front wheel drive to rear wheel drive like the Toyota 86.
An awd would be amazing
I agree. It's called the Corolla GR.
do you think you could fit an adult sized bicycle in the back after putting the back seats down?
Yes !!
How did you get the spoiler? I want one on mine
It's a factory spoiler. Not sure if it is on the window sticker or not, but you can replay the video and pause it to read the sticker.
If you build it online, the spoiler adds about $400.
Autohold is for hillstarts. I had a Se'at Ibiza diesel rental car (46mpg) in Spain that did it automatically. I like the hatch, the stick, the light interior, the gauges, nice car. Ok I guessed $24 but I wanted it to be $19k ok I guess I was right but that's an obscene price. I'd rather not have all the doodads and just have gauges and pay $15k.
You're cheap.
@@RoadandTract You're a millennial. Ok Acura RSXs were $24k and were a fast solid car. They were also hatchback and fit a lot of cargo and they looked slick. Put that in perspective. Corolla is an econobox and shouldn't be over $19k. You just don't know the value of the dollar and it is people like you encouraging inflation. Also, I'm really disappointed at the appearance of the Corolla hatch. It looks like a Nissan Leaf. Carmakers have forgotten hatches don't have to be eggs. There's a Mondeo hatch.
I needed a car back in 2020. Went to 3 Toyota dealerships in Houston (my home town) and NONE of them had any Corollas available in a manual transmission that I wanted except one of them had this ugly baby blue colored one with a manual. NO thanks. That color alone was a deal breaker for me.
In fact, I wanted THIS one in the video. Two tone exterior black and white with two tone interior black and white with, of course, a manual transmission.
Also, what is quite perplexing is why do they ONLY offer the Toyota CH-R in a manual in other countries, but not in the U.S. That is ridiculous. 🤦
Would you take this over the civic hatchback?
The 2022 Civic? That's a tough call.
love the car with a manual trans but @26K thats a bit High then again its 2022 with joe
Actually, the MSRP was just a bit over 23.7K. This car had options added like the adaptive headlights and some cosmetic things that bumped the price up.
I guessed 26k to 29k 🤔 not bad but Hondas are like that too take the Honda Si for instance that’s a bargain in itself
buy a forte gt civic si 45k new
uncle joe...nice one
Give me a spare wheel please!
hold on , no hand brake .what why.... that's not a real manual. I almost bought this car . oh well .....
Get the GR86
Curious, other than for tracking or drifting, what makes you prefer a manual rear brake? More parts to service and maintain, per working on mine DIY ('05 Corolla XRS 2ZZ-GE)
I got a $500 piece of crap car.
Those are the best kind. When you eventually do get rid of it, you'll have all sorts of stories about how you survived and coped.
There were about $3k worth of add ons which seems a bit much ....things like carpet mats costing $250 and " special color" costing $500...seem a little over the top. Sorry, but floor mats should be standard along with the paint. But the real stand out was the $1025 for " delivery processing handling fee"--wow that seems excessive as well.
That's a typical charge and you're lucky it's there otherwise the dealer would charge 3x.
@@RoadandTract transporting the vehicle to the car lot .....that cost is already factored into the MSRP....that is nothing but an add on. In normal times, you can haggle over it, but today, with demand, probably not.
@@captinbeyond you don’t sound very smart
@@CaydenFlowers6969696969 you must be a car salesman gouging people buying cars today?
I like you manual reviews, sir. Also an owner of Civic 2019 MT 👍
Nice!
Take all that gimmick rev matching and just go with a regular old manual and make it a 20k car
Does the USA Spec corolla come with blind spot warning system?
Is USA Spec model corolla more reliable than camry? Between both USA SPEC models which car will be more reliable and durable?
Which car will cost less to maintain and replace wear items/parts?
What is the weight of the camry?🤔
I like the fact that this Toyota corolla is made on JAPAN.👍
The camry isn't made in japan🤮
USA spec Toyotas come with TSS or TSS+. So, yes, blind spot monitoring is on US spec Toyotas.
@@RoadandTract What is TSS or TSS+ ? So blind spot warning system comes on the LE, XE, and XSE Corolla models?
Hey everybody, I'm wondering if the 6-speed manual is a better performance transmission vs the CVT transmission? I know that these Corollas are not for racing, but these Corollas can be improved to a point. I would think that the CVT transmission is not made for performance and aggressive driving. Everybody will drive their cars as fast as possible, and you know that you have always wanted more power when you need it. This low cost Corolla has substantial aftermarket parts that are available to improve its performance. I want to buy one, but (not) with the CVT transmission...
Long term cvt reliability is a joke, just look at Nissan. Get the manual and enjoy it. Thank me later.
around 11:24 when you did that pull, what was that orange blinking light on the dash by the revs that appeared when you did the pull then went away after you tamed off?
Probably traction control kicking in...
But it is dangerously slow! I mean life or death. Trying to get on the highway and I ran out of curb. I mean you have to absolutely nail it and you still only get up to 55 on the on ramp. You are such a joke! Done with your inconsistent videos!
Learn to drive bro!
But the VW Jetts though
I got my 2020 Corolla Hatchback SE for $21,800 and I have blind spot monitoring! Mine is an automatic though
that’s a great price i wish i can even find one in stock. dealers around me want 25k for se
That’s an unrealistic price even if you find one but that’s a fair price for a Corolla.
I bought a 2022 xse 6 speed manual I have 3000kms on it and now that it is broke in I drive it a bit harder and let me tell you IT IS FUN!!!
I'm going to be looking for a 2022 LE manual hatchback since Toyota isn't putting manuals in 2023's.
Electronic parking brakes are annoying
I think they are great.
I'll take uncle Joe over a convicted felon 😎
He will be dead by then.
rev matching your self is the entire reason i like having a manual car... wtf is todays car market
I have bought my corolla 2022 6 speed manual transmission much better than the cvt
Does anyone know if there's a matte skin for sale for the display and the controls underneath?
Why surprised on auto cruise on Manual? My 1991 Toyota MR2 has Auto cruise on 5 speed.
Radar cryise, where it slows down and stops in traffic. How can it work on a manual?
I just received my 2022 hatch manual one of the last ones made 2023 hatch discontinued the manual
I got the SE I wanted the more comfortable tires. Ai like your interior better.. I did get the white pearl with black roof
I had to get what ever was coming in waited five months I paid MSRP
It sucks that they pulled the manual and left the cvt for 2023.
Nice little car but the rev matching is a gimmick, it needs a real handbrake and the lack of a spare wheel is a deal breaker. Hit a pothole out in the middle of nowhere and bend your rim which will happen with those low profile tires and that tire kit won't do squat. Add in no cell service and you're walking out of there.
It doesn't matter. They already killed the manual for 2023.
The interior and the handling for me are the two big reasons I prefer the Mazda3 with a MT
You have to pay more for a manual lol
I have a 19 XSE 6MT. It's a great daily.
Can't wait for the GR. Corolla that is going to be epic. Great video. Thanks
how is the clutch feel? i heard it feels strange i haven't driven a manual that much is it hard on this car ?
It's very easy.
So underrated thats the best part
There ain’t none of these being shipped to Az. Talked to a dealer and don’t have none coming anytime soon. I will stick with my AE92 for a while…
Literally bought one yesterday in surprise
@@CaydenFlowers6969696969 is the market for the car still elevated? I am planning to wait a couple more months. Congratulations on your purchase!
I really wanted to like these.. I drove one, it was small, cramped, and hard to see out of, and while i do understand the IMT, i really think a manual transmission should have a traditional E-brake. Also, these aren't that light.. 3060 with 168Hp. Vs something like a base VW GTI that's 3K more expensive, weighs 90lbs more, but has almost 100HP more and over 100Lbft of torque more.. For what it is, it's expensive, and not really worth it.. that said, the new Corolla GR is set to hit the shores of the US in August 2022. Which is this chassis, 247HP and 301Lbft with only a manual transmission.. Fingers crossed we get that, as at that point i wouldn't care about the visibility or cramped seating for basically a new wave GT4 Toyota.
You're comparing a GTI to a non GR Corolla.
@@RoadandTract I’m comparing price. Your video mentions good value, comparing it to a base GTI is it really good value?
@BuddyTheCat I have Corolla GR Circuit on order.. So i hear ya.. but dollar for dollar if you're just looking at value for performance, the GTI is a much better vehicle to drive, not to own long term or to compare reliability, or even resale value. Just straight up performance, it's hard to beat.
I love this car, but I'm 6' 1" and I feel like I'm gonna squished in there. Can anyone relate?
Everyone is different.
I'm thinking maybe it'd be good for you to sit in one at a dealership just to be sure. I'm only 5'7 and it works fine for me.
my son got one, Wind Chill White /Blk interior. Blackout emblems IT'S FAST
It’s not fast lol. It can go fast after about 8 seconds
@@Mr99Burns you need to buy one and see then. better hurry tho, I read only 120 made with the full manual 6 speed for '22.
@@Mr99Burns thats why you only have 16 subscribers......
I agree, feels fast and fun, and more importantly, nimble handling! Obviously, performance numbers tell a different story, but it's about feeling and engagement! 😃
Rwd or fwd.
Fwd
Have you driven a manual Crosstrek? If so, how would you compare it to this? Thank you!
Subaru? Unless you live in Albuquerque.
@@RoadandTract Yup, not in Albuquerque though. Idaho.
@@RoadandTract I think they're probably talking about the new SUV Toyota came out that has Cross in the name...it's like a low budget SUV
I am going to order one but I don't know if I am able to negotiate with this crappy market condition. Were you able to get any discounts on this?
You can't order and negotiate. Just like real estate, sellers get more anxious to sell as each day passes. Cars get sold within 7 days. Dealers can wait a week for the right buyer. When you order, it sold in 0 days. No room to negotiate, but you can get the price in writing and if you can accept paying full price, you are on target. Never pay over sticker.
All dealers will go down in price if you walk out on them especially if you’re a serious customer w money and good credit. They aren't selling Mona Lisa’s just mass produced cars. Unless your going for something super rear or need to be first to own something don’t pay over sticker.
This or Civic Hatch?
That's a tough call.
@@RoadandTract I guess going to drive them both is the next step. If the GR hatch comes in AWD that would be good for snow. I doubt the Civic R hatch would do AWD.
Honda civic hatchback touring, is the best in this class
This