She delivered her lines so perfectly and gave them the perfect inflections and emotions, I still find it hard to believe that she didn't speak English fluently. Such a stunning actress. So incredibly talented.
@@hatsunemikuchannel2023 The spinning fan trick where the fan kind of twirls like a falling leaf almost. It's a pretty difficult fan trick that actual geishas would learn for their performances. I can't quite recall the name of the trick but I read about it in passing in the past.
Beautiful artist I love her graceful performance. This is my personal favourite classic. So much pain and heartfelt emotions seeking love in impossible circumstances.💟☯️🧘🏻♀️💃🏻👘🪭🥀,.
I honestly am surprised they haven't tried to do a reboot. If they ever do, maybe set it a little farther in the past, to avoid the war. Eve in the book, though, they did have American's directly in the story,it still killed the charm of the story.
Pretty much the reasons you gave, but there’s another reason that the book mentions. At some point in the book, around the time of her debut probably, Sayuri mentions that Mameha lent her a very pretty Kimono to wear, and she herself wore a fairly plain one. Sayuri then realized that Mameha was intentionally making herself casual so that more attention would be drawn to Sayuri. So that’s likely another reason she never wore the makeup.
@@Agamemnon-w9x Yep, Mameha makes a point to tell Sayuri that the only reason she lives as comfortably as she does is because she has a Danna. She points it out as the main difference between herself and Hatsumomo; they're quite close in popularity, but Hatsumomo can't get out of her okiya because she doesn't have a danna. And if I remember correctly, she doesn't have a danna because she offended a mistress of a teahouse, whom then told every potential danna that Hatsumomo wasn't available.
If I remember right from the book after a certain age geisha didn't have to wear the makeup. Also if you remember in the movie Hatsumomo is wearing makeup and later in this scene she is not
this is DEFINITELY not the case. At this point in the movie, though the creators do struggle to show the audience what position Sayuri is in, she is most likely a Maiko, which is a Geisha apprentice. You can tell this from the length of her obi. A courtesan would most likely tie her obi at the front, whether it is an Oiran or a lower ranking prostitute.
It's really hard to dissect into pieces, but for the most part, this is pretty inaccurate to an actual Maiko's dancing. When Maiko dance, their movements are precise, but very gentle and often slow. There is also usually a lot of 'teasing' or grabbing of their kimono's sleeves, and yes they do dance with their fans, but the whole 'catching the fan mid flight' thing Sayuri did here is probably something Maiko nor Geiko (Geisha) do during their performance.
+ additional detail, Sayuri is seen smiling a lot throughout her performance, and Maiko and Geiko usually are meant to keep a stoic expression like most traditional Japanese dancers are meant to
last i checked, they DID. half the cast was taught just enough english to deliver thier lines. Correction: they were chineese, so having them play japaneese was..ironic on a couple of levels. but the lead actress and several of the others did have to learn english for the role..and to speak it with a japaneese instead of mandarin accent.
@@Thelma158 yes. Japanese actresses refused to be seen in that role. That’s why they had to bring in Michelle, Gong Li, And Zhang to play the parts. The secondary roles were mostly kept by Japanese actors since they played regular roles. Loved Mrs. Nitta.
Nothing Japanese about this. From their kimonos to their hair.. its all wrong. Why they didn't use Japanese actors to play roles and culture in a Japanese story, is beyond me.
The fact Gong Li learned that very advanced fan trick and spoke her lines with such emotion while not speaking English is incredible.
Yeah say about the movie and its source material what you will (and there is plenty to say), but the actresses all delivered excellent performances.
She delivered her lines so perfectly and gave them the perfect inflections and emotions, I still find it hard to believe that she didn't speak English fluently. Such a stunning actress. So incredibly talented.
It is...she is absolutely an amazing talent and one of the most beautiful women in the world.
You mean that "launching the fan" trick ? 🤔🤔😮😮
@@hatsunemikuchannel2023 The spinning fan trick where the fan kind of twirls like a falling leaf almost. It's a pretty difficult fan trick that actual geishas would learn for their performances. I can't quite recall the name of the trick but I read about it in passing in the past.
Sayuri's gift of expression was on full display here. Even Mameha knew she'd have to step aside and let Hatsumomo have it
When she said "Surely you would like to thank Hatsumomo for her gracious compliment", she apparently actually meant "give it to her, Sayuri".😂
Some would say Chiyo burnt Hastsumomo, but in truth she drowned her, considering her water element.
I came here from that video and love your comment
Mmmh yes, but with the old and worn-out joke about the age... Not very original.
Eeeyup
@@conatcha not a joke. She spoke facts. Also even if the joke was old the delivery was spot on
The fact that she basically called Hatsumomo "an old bxxxh" with such elegance & grace still makes me smile to this day 😌💙🙏🏿
She didn’t just called her an old bihh; but she also told her to stfu in a way that couldn’t be more graceful
bro this girl managed to burn hatsumomo not once, not twice, not three but FOUR times in the entire movie.
LoL someone go get Hatsummo some ice because she just burned, and Chiyo just dropped the mic.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 ikr
Long, long, looooooong time ago hatsumomo... I mean... Old like mother earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The matches not the only thing getting burned. 😏
Beautiful artist I love her graceful performance. This is my personal favourite classic. So much pain and heartfelt emotions seeking love in impossible circumstances.💟☯️🧘🏻♀️💃🏻👘🪭🥀,.
Dammmnnnnn...that's some third degree burn.
thank you, Now Playing!!! this is my favorite scene from the film
I honestly am surprised they haven't tried to do a reboot. If they ever do, maybe set it a little farther in the past, to avoid the war. Eve in the book, though, they did have American's directly in the story,it still killed the charm of the story.
Does anyone know why mameha never wore the geisha makeup? Was it because she was so successful and senior she didn’t have to?
Pretty much the reasons you gave, but there’s another reason that the book mentions. At some point in the book, around the time of her debut probably, Sayuri mentions that Mameha lent her a very pretty Kimono to wear, and she herself wore a fairly plain one. Sayuri then realized that Mameha was intentionally making herself casual so that more attention would be drawn to Sayuri. So that’s likely another reason she never wore the makeup.
@@synarthrose I haven’t read the book in years so I totally forgot!
i believe she also has a Danna as well, so she's pretty much established in security
@@Agamemnon-w9x Yep, Mameha makes a point to tell Sayuri that the only reason she lives as comfortably as she does is because she has a Danna. She points it out as the main difference between herself and Hatsumomo; they're quite close in popularity, but Hatsumomo can't get out of her okiya because she doesn't have a danna. And if I remember correctly, she doesn't have a danna because she offended a mistress of a teahouse, whom then told every potential danna that Hatsumomo wasn't available.
If I remember right from the book after a certain age geisha didn't have to wear the makeup. Also if you remember in the movie Hatsumomo is wearing makeup and later in this scene she is not
She got her with that last read 😂
Lol she tried it!
She doesn’t really look like a geisha she’s dressed more like a Japanese courtesan. Both completely different roles.
this is DEFINITELY not the case. At this point in the movie, though the creators do struggle to show the audience what position Sayuri is in, she is most likely a Maiko, which is a Geisha apprentice. You can tell this from the length of her obi. A courtesan would most likely tie her obi at the front, whether it is an Oiran or a lower ranking prostitute.
@@ItsJustSam-bk1mf I think I’m referring to the shoes they are too high for geisha
Random question, but does anyone know how accurate the portrayal of this dance is?
It's really hard to dissect into pieces, but for the most part, this is pretty inaccurate to an actual Maiko's dancing. When Maiko dance, their movements are precise, but very gentle and often slow. There is also usually a lot of 'teasing' or grabbing of their kimono's sleeves, and yes they do dance with their fans, but the whole 'catching the fan mid flight' thing Sayuri did here is probably something Maiko nor Geiko (Geisha) do during their performance.
+ additional detail, Sayuri is seen smiling a lot throughout her performance, and Maiko and Geiko usually are meant to keep a stoic expression like most traditional Japanese dancers are meant to
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ive heard that song beforeee
What is song? Pleaseee :(
Use Shazam
Does anyone know what kind of fan that she used
It's a beautiful movie, but barely Japanese and so "Americanish": show off, smart comebacks, roast...
Should have used Japanese actresses. There was a good reason they didn't.
last i checked, they DID. half the cast was taught just enough english to deliver thier lines. Correction: they were chineese, so having them play japaneese was..ironic on a couple of levels. but the lead actress and several of the others did have to learn english for the role..and to speak it with a japaneese instead of mandarin accent.
Idk why you people bring that up anymore. The movie is what 17 years old now?
They had try outs for the roles but no Japanese actors were willing to audition because of the subject matter.
@@Thelma158 yes. Japanese actresses refused to be seen in that role. That’s why they had to bring in Michelle, Gong Li, And Zhang to play the parts. The secondary roles were mostly kept by Japanese actors since they played regular roles. Loved Mrs. Nitta.
@@Angelaaa1015what do you care?
Hatsumomo was way prettier than Sayuri, even with her blue contacts lol
Nothing Japanese about this. From their kimonos to their hair.. its all wrong. Why they didn't use Japanese actors to play roles and culture in a Japanese story, is beyond me.
The book itself is taboo and japanese actors risk damaging their careers if they attempt to act in such an inaccurate film.