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  • Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
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    Former Methodist minister, partner receive same-sex blessing from Chicago parish in video
    GINA CHRISTIAN
    May 1, 2024
    National/World
    This is an undated screenshot of the altar at St. Vincent de Paul Church in Chicago. A Chicago priest in liturgical garb performed a blessing of a same-sex couple at the church, which was video-recorded and described on Instagram as "a blessing of our marriage." (OSV News screenshot/Instagram)
    (OSV News) ─ A former Methodist minister has sought a blessing on her same-sex union from a priest at a parish within the Archdiocese of Chicago, months after the Vatican issued a document on the possibility of giving spontaneous, non-liturgical pastoral blessings to couples in irregular situations.
    "Myah always wanted to get married at the chapel of her Alma mater, so I surprised her with a blessing of our marriage!" wrote Kelli Knight, who posted a brief video and photographs of the blessing April 22 on her Instagram account, citygrrl76.
    The video pictured Knight, who spent 14 years as pastor of several Chicago-area United Methodist congregations, with a woman addressed in the clip as Myah and Vincentian Father Joseph S. Williams, pastor of St. Vincent de Paul Parish in Chicago.
    The parish, administered by the Vincentian Congregation of the Mission-Western Province and adjacent to DePaul University, was established by the Vincentians in 1898 and serves the university community.
    In a May 1 phone call with OSV News, Father Williams confirmed that he is the priest in the video, and that the blessing─ which he said he administered by appointment at the request of Knight a month prior ─ took place at St. Vincent de Paul.
    OSV News has sent a link to the video to the Archdiocese of Chicago for comment, along with a message to Knight via her Instagram account, and is awaiting a reply to both inquiries.
    In the video, Knight is dressed in an off-the-shoulder, champagne-colored sequined gown, while Myah is dressed in a black suit with a matching fedora and a white tie, with both women wearing floral wrist corsages. The clip looked to be filmed using a cellphone on a tripod set before the altar, with the camera facing the empty church. Father Williams, dressed in a white alb and an ivory stole, helps the pair to adjust their position in the camera frame before beginning the blessing.
    As the two women face each other holding hands, Father Williams says, "This is going to be very short, very brief," and then reads from a printed text ─ which he told OSV News he had written himself ─ in a liturgical binder typically used at Mass for announcements.
    The format of the blessing approximates a renewal of wedding vows, with Father Williams addressing the women by their names, asking, "Do you freely recommit yourselves to love each other as holy spouses and to live in peace and harmony together forever?"
    "We do, I do," they each reply.
    Father Williams then continues, "Loving God, increase and consecrate the love which Kelli and Myah have for one another."
    Although no ring exchange is depicted in the segment, the priest says, "The rings they have exchanged are the sign of their fidelity and commitment. May they continue to prosper in your grace and blessing. We ask this through Christ our Lord."
    He concludes the blessing by making the sign of the cross over the two women, who cross themselves, and saying, "May God's blessing be yours, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit."
    OSV News has forwarded a link to the video, along with a request for evaluation, to Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, prefect of the Vatican's Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, which in December 2023 released the formal declaration "Fiducia Supplicans" ("Supplicating Trust"), subtitled "On the pastoral meaning of blessings."
    In his introductory note to the document, Cardinal Fernández said his office had, over the past few years, repeatedly received questions about priestly blessings for same-sex or other unmarried couples in irregular situations. He wrote that the need for a fuller explanation of blessings became apparent after Pope Francis responded to the "dubia," or questions, posed by several cardinals in a letter released in early October.
    Following the declaration's release, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a Dec. 18, 2023, statement through its spokesperson, Chieko Noguchi, noting "the declaration affirms" that "the Church's teaching on marriage has not changed."
    The document "articulated a distinction between liturgical (sacramental) blessings, and pastoral blessings, which may be given to persons who desire God's loving grace in their lives," said the statement.
    At the same time, the USCCB statement said, the text makes "an effort to accompany people through the imparting of pastoral blessings because each of us needs God's healing love and merc.
    More here www.detroitcatholic.com/news/...

Комментарии • 31

  • @AndreaWanting
    @AndreaWanting 28 дней назад +10

    Oh my Jesus,; save us from the fire of hell, lead all souls to heaven. Especially those in most need of mercy.

  • @henrypadilla7571
    @henrypadilla7571 27 дней назад +3

    This is truly disgusting. “Cardinal” Cupich is a traitor IMHO. Stop this now in the name of Jesus.

  • @myangelwings45
    @myangelwings45 27 дней назад +4

    Robert you are not alone in asking questions to the Catholic Church.

  • @josephwells8699
    @josephwells8699 27 дней назад +5

    How can this be God's Church, when it goes directly against His word? Not possible!

  • @alexisarrizon6799
    @alexisarrizon6799 27 дней назад +4

    God bring your Will upon the Earth

  • @seamusweber8298
    @seamusweber8298 28 дней назад +8

    Thanks Robert for highlighting this.

  • @annstrahlendorf2879
    @annstrahlendorf2879 28 дней назад +8

    COME LORD JESUS, COME🙏😢💔🙏

  • @renatusmsofe1458
    @renatusmsofe1458 28 дней назад +7

    Lord! Lord! please come for our rescue

  • @donaldlippert6374
    @donaldlippert6374 27 дней назад +2

    Robert. Thank you for sharing your reflections. I find them very insightful and inspiring. On this matter, I believe that you are in the right. The clip you showed was deeply distressing. We join you in praying for the church at this difficult time.

  • @NA-ls7hi
    @NA-ls7hi 26 дней назад +2

    Lord have mercy on us 😔

  • @myangelwings45
    @myangelwings45 27 дней назад +2

    This is a terrible marriage blessing of a lesbian couple in the Catholic Church and Bergoglio said this would never happen. Well there y’a go. With flowers all dressed up just like a regular wedding.

  • @robertorr7067
    @robertorr7067 23 дня назад

    Thank you Robert. You are very right in asking these questions.

  • @cthurbz5146
    @cthurbz5146 27 дней назад +2

    What is this?!? This is NOT what they said the FS is.

  • @virginiaschilz5440
    @virginiaschilz5440 28 дней назад +3

    🎉I am against this specific "blessing" as presented as accepting an unholy relationship

  • @ruthmillican6550
    @ruthmillican6550 26 дней назад +1

    No we do not ask that through Our Lord! No no no! I will pray for all of the poor souls involved in this including the person taking the video of the ceremony. That is just tragic, so many souls being lead to perdition.

  • @TruthSeeker-333
    @TruthSeeker-333 22 дня назад

    Without the TLM I would be lost in all this betrayal. Thank you Robert for calling out the successors to the apostles to be witnesses, or cowards

  • @avantibev5814
    @avantibev5814 19 дней назад

    As a Chicagoan I am not surprised by it being the Vincentians. The kind of loosey goosey liturgies I witnessed there in the 80s naturally lead to less and less belief in trad Catholic teaching. Bugnini's creation...the gift that keeps on giving! 😡

  • @simonewilliams7224
    @simonewilliams7224 28 дней назад +3

    But that ceremony was like a planned wedding and it was in a church, it was not impromptu, they were dressed to make a statement in their finest.
    You cannot b l e s s blatant in your face sin against God.
    I mean listen to the exact words the priest spoke. It was not a blessing to amend their sinful ways but to acknowledge they are a bonded couple and intend to stay a couple and ALL THAT DOES IMPLY.
    WORDS MATTER.

  • @carollyon4755
    @carollyon4755 28 дней назад +2

    😢

  • @Nilaripper
    @Nilaripper 25 дней назад

    Anna Katherina Emmerich: The vision of the church of modernists, 22 Okt 1822. It is happening now. That is whats going on.

  • @matthewbroderick6287
    @matthewbroderick6287 21 день назад

    Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

  • @pathue1196
    @pathue1196 26 дней назад

    That priest has taken the name of the Lord in vain. The sad thing is the other priests who know this stay silent. Eze3:18-20.

  • @tabandken8562
    @tabandken8562 28 дней назад +1

    I mean seriously. Can you actually read the document. The blessing is a prayer of intercession. The blessing is not a statement of approval. The blessing, according to the document, is for those, "who-recognizing themselves to be destitute and in need of his help-do not claim a legitimation of their own status, but who beg that all that is true, good, and humanly valid in their lives and their relationships be enriched, healed, and elevated by the presence of the Holy Spirit. These forms of blessing express a supplication that God may grant those aids that come from the impulses of his Spirit-what classical theology calls “actual grace”-so that human relationships may mature and grow in fidelity to the Gospel, that they may be freed from their imperfections and frailties, and that they may express themselves in the ever-increasing dimension of the divine love."
    Those in the video at the end are disobedient and not following the document.

    • @jordantome5598
      @jordantome5598 28 дней назад

      Exactly!

    • @realjoshuamck
      @realjoshuamck 20 дней назад

      I hope I don’t sound rude In asking…😅😅 but shouldn’t the “same sex” couple end their sexual relationship before they get blessings?

    • @jordantome5598
      @jordantome5598 20 дней назад +1

      @@realjoshuamck each individual is getting the blessing to help them come to the reality that your right. They needs God's help to end the relationship