It’s not secret at all. Everyone knows about the MDP. This video is a little misleading. They spend most of their time doing mundane patrols and guarding gates or patrolling fences etc. It’s very far removed from traditional policing it seems.
It's not a secret nor should it be. I hope they travel past me every time a certain train goes by where I am. Can't recall them challenging Alan Partridge when he turned up at Dungeness Nuclear power station
@@VanderlyndenJengold That's Because Nuclear Power Station's are CNC's Job not MDP's Job. That's what I fail to Understand This "Secret" Police Force seems to just be a rip off from the CNC
Hence, if you do find someone who got nabbed by them, you would go looking for them in normal police stations not wherever they took them. Also, if they're involved in something but don't look like police but are still armed, someone else might actually call the normal police to the scene and that might escalate pretty badly.
Secret as in its not known to many civilians in the UK that they are armed. Majority of the police forces are unarmed. Only with batons, cuffs and tasers
USA: "These police are special, they are armed with tanks." Russia: "These police are special, they will shoot you and the other civilians near by." China: "These police are special, they will take your organs." Mexico: "These police are special, they are not paid off by gangs."
It's all proportional, northern Ireland has had a much high violence level, for obvious reasons, especially towards police. Even in the UK there's armed police in areas with more of a chance for violent crime. Go to London in the tourist areas, there's loads of armed officers. So it's silly tbh when people say English police aren't armed.
Prior to joining the army in 1972, I tried out for the Atomic Police. The MOD Police guarded certain MOD facilities, but I thought both were different. I had dealings with the MODP, who carried only side arms, then, before we took over the role for a few hours or days. BAOR lads also had the not so good privilege of guarding certain special sites in Germany.
Aldermaston, where they make the bombs, switched from the Atomic Energy Authority to MOD in about 73, so when you applied it will have had AEA Constabulary, what is now CNC, who now only do civil nuclear sites.
Better than sitting in a cold & wet Chieftain on the German Plains in the middle of winter for a week. And *that* was better than being a squidgie doing it all in the open.
They is another mysterious police force also armed with assault rifles the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, sometimes called Nuclear Police,who guard nuclear power stations too.The main non Home Office police are the MOD police,the Civil Nuclear and British Transport.There are also various others like Mersey Tunnel, Hampstead Heath,Dock Police,etc..
Why are defenses so weak at such important places, they might not be most important but they are important, even I could make a better defense for those places in 2 minutes of thinking go'v incompetence there too hahaha
I was in London and Southampton in 2018 and I saw most police in London were better equipped and armed than the units I served in on active duty US Army. I don't think I saw a single officer who WASN'T obviously armed. That said, I had no idea civilian law enforcement was tasked with protection of nukes in any way
That's weird tbh, no normal policeman carries a firearm very few even carry tasers. That said London is a hotspot for crime and the capital so their might a higher concentration of armed police. Dunno about Southampton
The concensus in Scotland and England is that you get good, exciting training and kit. But has one of the highest transfer rates due to boredom. But have to fully apply to Home Office forces as a new entrant as they don't accept transfers from MOD
@Scout & About No no they're saying that you can't transfer from MoD Police, British Transport Police, or Civil Nuclear Constabulary directly into frontline Home Office (Normal) Police forces. Whereas if you worked for an HO Police force like Cheshire you could generally transfer straight to Manchester Police without reapplying or retraining.
@@theRPGmaster If you assess the timing, it was clear they both did it at the same time because that shot was isolated and would have been the camera man like "when i say go, fire" This isnt at all a good representation of how anything works in real life
@Steve Wolcott These MoDplod in this vid………… It kind of sounded like they just happened to forget to mention the civil nuclear constabulary who are also armed. :) I know the nuclear constabulary do fixed installations and not weapons, but they could have been worth a mention. :)
Yeah, don't forget the Civil Nuclear Constabulary who are permanently armed and do the same role as MDP but for non-military nuclear targets in the national infrastructure..
When they said, the only difference between a normal police and an MDP is that they carry firearms. That sounded really weird for me until, I realized its the UK. in the US almost all police officers carry fire arms.
All my local police are armed with at least a sidearm on and off duty, it is a myth that UK police do not carry conventional firearms@ubiquitousubiquitous3843
Actually, click bait titles are the main reason behind getting money from RUclips for the video also this is not lying. They have a lot of information legally classified security level which many police forces don’t have
well when American police deal with places like Chicago, Detroit, New York City, Clevland, Newark, Camden, and so many other dangerous places where criminals have easy acess to guns, the police need ways to protect themselves and the public. If a criminal has a handgun, I want police officers to have rifles.
@@snakeboy2644 by that reasoning police in London, Manchester and Birmingham should also have guns. Which I think would be a good thing. Even if some smaller cities have high crime rates, armed criminal rates in the big bad three are probably the only ones comparable to American metropolis rates
Hats off to ya all departments on force keeping our towns and cities as safe and sound as you can and do. It sure helps make my life seem like I could turn my life at present back on the right road so well done U.K. Police force. 👍💪👍😎
UK military bases are guarded by the Military Provost Guard Service (MPGS), Royal Air Force Police (RAFP) or Royal Navy Police (RNP) depending on which service operates at that base. These are not civilian police or MOD police but are regular service men and women.
@Ubiquitous Ubiquitous fair enough, I was personally more familiar with the RAFP having a duty to ensure overall base security as part of their force protection role and, improperly, assumed the Royal Navy police did the same.
Hms vigil is a terrible representation of the Royal Navy and the submarine service, the writer is a known SNP and anti trident activist, that’s using the show to push his/her own agenda, don’t believe anything you see on the show, it’s all make believe propaganda
“You don’t look that closely at the badge on the door” interesting that police officers understand this concept and yet still insist it’s very important that we have 43 different forces…
You found a mentally do not understand things. Do you? People complain? If someone is all powerful over the place? So separate forces professor also like the ministry of defence force makes sense because the ministry of defence handles most likely only certain forces would be able to know
@@BLX187 damn.... I honestly didn't know that, that's rough. Here in Canada our cops are all armed, we have our fair share of corruption but thankfully drugs and alcohol within the force isn't an issue for us. Atleast I hope not lol
@@gunsnrosesforever100 Look I'm not the biggest fan of police here but that's total rubbish from no name. The majority of our police do not carry firearms simply because the overwhelming majority of the population do not have firearms. The majority of firearms that do exist are heavily regulated and licensed. Studies in the UK have shown that the UK population (generally) feels more unsafe when seeing officers with firearms. Rather, we have specially trained units to deal with firearm incidents when they rarely occur. Our standard police are trained incredibly well in de-escalation techniques that don't require guns.
@@Rob-rd4em tbh I've met a few people from the UK and I've always asked them why the cops don't have guns and everyone always replied with " they don't need them ". I actually think it's really cool that you guys don't give every officer a gun, I think it's smart to train in de- escalation rather then use a gun for de-escalation.
It’s not that they’re a ‘secret’ because they are very public about their presence, it’s purely because alot of people are still unaware of their existence so it’s just an eye catching title.
However many things surrounding them are secret and protected by the ministry of defence that is very important to know a lot of things are not kept public
@UKsystems Sure, but the point is that while their specific existence is deniable they have an easier job. The SAS said the same about the time when their regiment was officially announced because while they were a secret, as far as their potential enemies were concerned, they were just the equivalent of a folk tale designed to scare them, but once revealed to be real they lost the particular element of surprise. It's generally a good idea to keep your cards close to your chest especially when your hand is good.
And? it isn't exactly good training if you don't do everything in exactly the same way you would in a real event. For all you know the guns being used for training were replicas and all scenes I saw here with fingers on triggers were training to search and clear an area... where you would keep your finger on the trigger. The guns being used for fire exercises were converted to blank firers as can be seen by the yellow tips on the rifles.
@@imunknown9392 most training around the world advises to keep fingers off the trigger until ready to fire. Riding the trigger could result in an accident if the weilder were to fall of panic. Not surprised seeing that in this video however Brit’s are generally pretty poor when it comes to firearms.
@@SnakePliskin762 In my country it’s a militia actually (luckily i did not stay that much in the army) but still, we are talking about around of equipment at most! (4 for the primary, 0,5 for the secondary, lets say 1,5 for the batteries/magazines/taser and around 3 for the light kevlar vest) that’s around 9kg, 10 pushing. It’s their job to stay fit and 10kg of equipment is really easy to carry when you get used to it.
The MDP do a great job of looking after the nuclear deterrent and the people who maintain the CASD activity. It was always great to see them doing their jobs. Carry on the good work 😄👍
MOD Plod aren't exactly secret and the guy at the start is wrong , I always look at the door of the vehicles , I always look to see if they're real police or not.
I always look for the crest/logo of the police force. When you're in your local area it should be fairly recognisable. Sadly you get wanabe jumped up security guards and civilian k9 patrols that try to make their vehicles look as much like police as possible, even using the blue and yellow Battenberg decal just with the tiniest change in brightness.
@@jamesbyford7614 Well obviously not for unmarked cars. I simply said looking at the crest of a police car can show it it’s real, because some people try to make their vehicles looks as police like as possible and push the law to it’s limit
I know someone who does this. It's the most boring, unfulfilling job you can imagine. It's 99% training and 1% being a security guard. Because nothing ever happens.
Only reason they are Police is to carry firearms, they’re basically glorified security guards but UK laws are so jurassic that only police, military and certain parts of government can carry firearms. No private companies. Mod plod mostly stand outside a gate, sit in a kiosk drinking tea or asleep in a patrol car. Hence the high volume of transfers out. UK (the nanny state) is very different to foreign police forces.
Yh basically lol. These guys are just the same as the uk Armed police, dont carry anything special, or even do anything special. According to the video these guys are "essential" but that's something to debate
UK also doesn't have a moronic 2nd amendment leaving guns unrestricted and unsecured to addicts who get their drugs from southern countries who were destabilised thanks to the NRA selling to the CIA.
@@billmclachlanamateurwriter idk about that the UK isn’t as big or as diverse as the US so not every department is trained the same. Some have employ good tactics some don’t. Not every city has the same demographics of population or social economics. So I feel like saying the UK has more of something (in this case training) is honestly subjective until proven objective. Plus many factors play into the training of police units in the states again due the its diverse nature of people, income status and overall general satisfaction of living in a certain metropolitan, city, town, parish or community.
I’m sure they usually purposely recruit serving armed officers, although they do sometimes open up applications for everyone. Probably could move forces from the MDP tho
This attitude allows police officers to become corrupt. You assume every police officer is correct so anti-corruption investigations are immediately tainted with the attitude that the complaint is not genuine. You always corruption to continue
I really don‘t want to be that guy, but I have to: Finger on the trigger when moving? Having one officer stand between the taser and the subject? Closing in the distance with the taser? Holding the rifle on the magwell? All that fancy gear will be useless if that‘s their level of training.
The magwell grip isn't that bad for non-conventional handling, worse has been done by better. Closing with a taser would make sense if a lethal was also readied. The rest of your points are proof that, while the British train more, they don't train better.
I convinced whoever came up with the shoot one bullet then reasses has never shot anyone before. There have been people who were shot multiple times to vital organs and have continued fighting for minutes afterwards. Shooting one bullet and having the person immedialty drop to the ground is simply not going to happen everytime.
You should hope to god that they never have to use them, because it'd most likely mean that some group got organized enough to launch an attack to capture nuclear weapons. That'd be disaster
God bless these truly heroic men/women for protecting our beautiful nation with the highest extent of democratic severity, bravery and intelligence. As the Metropolitan Police Force, you really are one of, if not, the most valuable credit to our virtuous society ⚖️☮️💖⚔️
Not necessarily, it means you have a target in sight and are ready to fire if need be, but are still waiting for the bad guy to do something that would warrant opening fire. Readiness on the trigger means they can open fire in a fraction of a second, before the threat can let off a round.
@@Oscar-bu4xk That is wrong and bad training, you should never have a finger on the trigger ever !, unless you are about to fire, look at the SF they are trained that good, they can pull a handgun from a holster take the safety off in 1 second with fluid motion and be ready to deal with the threat
@@nickr753 Considering most first world country militaries heavily prioritize trigger safety on and off the field it's probably more than just gun range rules.
Every now & then after work at A local Carvery I sometimes pop in to MacDonalds for my evening dinner & I see a few police officers who have actual hand guns in their holsters ordering food
or your police are essentially a military force and our police are just police. or you could grow up and see your police as American police who have different equipment to deal with different crimes in a different country and the British police have different equipment to deal with different crimes in a different country
Their not spehical forces in the army, their just a spechialist unit of the police for the MOD. The most striking thing they acompany is nukes but even then they are with the royal marines. (You can't actully use said nuke for the record without the sub)
@@mauzki- when you think about it, it's kind of sad because the reason they are there (other than send away random idiots that probably never go there), is to buy time for the military to arrive in an emergency. Luckily unlikely to happen
Yeah, their more the first line of defence but more then likely have basically an entire battalion defending with them when nuclear weapons are moved. @@inumitovd7900
Best paid security guards in the UK. Main difference between these guys and regular British police is not that they are armed - it is that they will likely go through a whole career without ever arresting anyone or doing any actual Police work 😂 It is a weird force to want to join - imagine how boring it must be and all that training to never actually do anything. It is not like Islamic or right wing terrorists target these establishments.
Yes exactly they should send them out on patrol in a town every other month so they could experience real stress of the job. Training is not like the real deal. You need to experience reality to become really skilled.
It ridiculous how we treat armed police in the UK. To think its possible for an officers to shoot and kill a terrorist and the cop is the one who ends up in court.
@@Stazi2tierkier when you're having to pick on one or two slightly less ideal cases from the last 3 decades then it suggests that they're not doing a bad job.
Didn't know this unit exist, coz I remember UK's nuclear weapons especially the Clyde base is protected by 43 Commando Fleet Protection Group, a specialized group of Royal Marines. I guess they both work together in some capacity.
Possibly true in the past but since the 2019 London bridge stabbing the UK police are following more of a US model where they kill anyone that seems to be an ongoing threat immediately no questions asked.
@@bigcalamaro it’s not all that boring actually, they have to go to the gun range for weapons training every once in a while and then you have all the vegetables with their conspiracy theories trying to enter the ‘top secret government bunker’ which is literally just the comms station and storage.
They are issued with guns but if they use them they get into trouble, that is really putting a strain on the officers, they should not be prosecuted if they had to discharge their weapon. With their strict training and body camera evidence it should be easy to prove it was needed.
@@Stopes. it’s loads of fun, I have a similar rifle made by Springfield armory. They said in the video that the rifles were colt which means they were probably made in the US.
@@haywoodjablome9642 The C7 and C8 were made by Diemaco, which was purchased by Colt. Diemaco is now called Colt Canada, and they continue to make these rifles.
I didn't notice that the first time I watched it, but yeah, that's a super sketchy way to carry a firearm. Even a small unexpected bump could cause a negligent discharge. I was wondering if this was just a British thing, so I went and looked at some videos of Royal Marines doing CQB, and nope, they all index, so these guys just aren't up to the standards of most professional combat arms folks. The giant GoPro on the front of the weapon didn't inspire a lot of confidence either.
It’s secret so make sure we get loads of close ups of the lads faces and put it on RUclips
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Dude. So secret that they also showed every single item they carry on them 😂
It’s not secret at all. Everyone knows about the MDP.
This video is a little misleading. They spend most of their time doing mundane patrols and guarding gates or patrolling fences etc.
It’s very far removed from traditional policing it seems.
It's secret once there's an attache
@@danieltarr4869 Z xcycyy
“One of the best kept secrets” - uploads it to RUclips 🤯
It's not a secret nor should it be. I hope they travel past me every time a certain train goes by where I am.
Can't recall them challenging Alan Partridge when he turned up at Dungeness Nuclear power station
@@VanderlyndenJengold I wasn’t really saying it was a bad thing really, but why call it a secret 😂
@@daley5186 occasionally you may encounter a police person who is a drama queen.
@@VanderlyndenJengold more often that not you mean haha
@@VanderlyndenJengold That's Because Nuclear Power Station's are CNC's Job not MDP's Job. That's what I fail to Understand This "Secret" Police Force seems to just be a rip off from the CNC
0:32 We're actually supposed to call it "the service" now. Official vocab guidelines state that "force" is too aggressive.
take my like
cringe. not u but the guideline
@@danieldacanay8466 its a Hotfuzz reference
Seargent angel
@@jacklonsdale2722 i see... Forgive my unculturedness
"Secret police" when they've got "POLICE" plastered all over their uniforms
Hence, if you do find someone who got nabbed by them, you would go looking for them in normal police stations not wherever they took them.
Also, if they're involved in something but don't look like police but are still armed, someone else might actually call the normal police to the scene and that might escalate pretty badly.
Secret as in its not known to many civilians in the UK that they are armed. Majority of the police forces are unarmed. Only with batons, cuffs and tasers
Secret? I work for BNF and they are glorified gate guards
@@paddymallory4080 is that not the Civil Nuclear Constabulary then?
@@xzseng4524 taser is a firearm legally as is spray.
England: "These police are special, they are armed with weapons."
Northern Ireland: "Theses police are special, they have no weapons."
USA: "These police are special, they are armed with tanks."
Russia: "These police are special, they will shoot you and the other civilians near by."
China: "These police are special, they will take your organs."
Mexico: "These police are special, they are not paid off by gangs."
Italy: "These police are special, they arrest bad guys instead of selling seized drugs and harassing/raping prostitutes in their police car."
@@grazianism Germany, 1930s: these police are special and will kill anyone who says otherwise.
It's all proportional, northern Ireland has had a much high violence level, for obvious reasons, especially towards police. Even in the UK there's armed police in areas with more of a chance for violent crime. Go to London in the tourist areas, there's loads of armed officers. So it's silly tbh when people say English police aren't armed.
@@Maurice_Moss NI has the lowest rate of crime and violence in the Uk
Prior to joining the army in 1972, I tried out for the Atomic Police. The MOD Police guarded certain MOD facilities, but I thought both were different.
I had dealings with the MODP, who carried only side arms, then, before we took over the role for a few hours or days.
BAOR lads also had the not so good privilege of guarding certain special sites in Germany.
Aldermaston, where they make the bombs, switched from the Atomic Energy Authority to MOD in about 73, so when you applied it will have had AEA Constabulary, what is now CNC, who now only do civil nuclear sites.
Lies again? End violence by any means necessary
Better than sitting in a cold & wet Chieftain on the German Plains in the middle of winter for a week. And *that* was better than being a squidgie doing it all in the open.
4:17 that guy's forearm is majestic 💪
The fish and rice cakes diet😊
Sorry I couldn't take that Cornish guy seriously 😂😂 "shoe me yor raands'
Well you're getting shot then. Rip
Shoe me yur arnds luvvurrrr!
@@jedburrows9583 Dreckly!!
I thought the same
Reminded me of the bloke from the office
Having guns is not what defines elite, it's about difference in the ability to act accordingly to increasingly stressful situations
They is another mysterious police force also armed with assault rifles the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, sometimes called Nuclear Police,who guard nuclear power stations too.The main non Home Office police are the MOD police,the Civil Nuclear and British Transport.There are also various others like Mersey Tunnel, Hampstead Heath,Dock Police,etc..
Why are defenses so weak at such important places, they might not be most important but they are important, even I could make a better defense for those places in 2 minutes of thinking
go'v incompetence there too hahaha
@@JohnGrandlineThe defences aren’t weak, you just can’t see them.
the main none HO police re the PSNI
[UKAEA Const.] My former clients and great guys👍👍
@@JohnGrandline the defence is not weak quite simply you don’t know what they have
"On your chest, there's two red dots!" Actually mate, I think the second is a tad lower
That’s only if you deserve it
I was in London and Southampton in 2018 and I saw most police in London were better equipped and armed than the units I served in on active duty US Army. I don't think I saw a single officer who WASN'T obviously armed. That said, I had no idea civilian law enforcement was tasked with protection of nukes in any way
That's weird tbh, no normal policeman carries a firearm very few even carry tasers. That said London is a hotspot for crime and the capital so their might a higher concentration of armed police. Dunno about Southampton
Furthermore it's very rare for someone in the UK to carry a gun especially in petty Street crime. So there is a lot lower use case of firearms.
@@zdwlees British transport police carry straps in Soton.
@@zdwlees there's loads of guns in the streets, trust.
@@shmoopoo8099 I'll take Ur word for it but I reckon it's probably lower than in most other countries
The concensus in Scotland and England is that you get good, exciting training and kit. But has one of the highest transfer rates due to boredom. But have to fully apply to Home Office forces as a new entrant as they don't accept transfers from MOD
@Scout & About No no they're saying that you can't transfer from MoD Police, British Transport Police, or Civil Nuclear Constabulary directly into frontline Home Office (Normal) Police forces. Whereas if you worked for an HO Police force like Cheshire you could generally transfer straight to Manchester Police without reapplying or retraining.
Some of them have to get extended tutorships, too. Due to their lack of skills as a general officer.
Would you say being an armed police officer is boring compared to what those on social media say?
3:52 those two officers fired almost simultaneously, that’s some consistent training to pick out the exact same moment a threat develops!
I really hope this is genius level sarcasm
@@MAN_FROM_BEYOND We are but a speck of insignificance compared to their importance.
No, that's called sympathetic fire, when one fires so does the other. And it's a very bad thing in a real threat scenario.
@@theRPGmaster If you assess the timing, it was clear they both did it at the same time because that shot was isolated and would have been the camera man like "when i say go, fire"
This isnt at all a good representation of how anything works in real life
yeah one to 10 and the other to 2
“It’s so covert, it’s overt”
- Sherlock Holmes
Isn't it the other way around?
Apart from that isn’t okay, they have to be publicly visible anyway not known about
I've seen em going really fast down a country lane, whole convoy including army trucks and a large truck with a warhead of some kind
Yeah seen them on motorway before transporting few years back
it's five to eleven they're on their way to mcdonalds
Would that not be civil nuclear police doing that?
@@pebbleheed CNC do nuclear material usually used in power plants. Warheads or weapons would be MDP
That llama wasn't going to uthenize itself mate. Too soon?
Clickbait.
These haven't been secret. They've been well known since as long as I can remember.
@Steve Wolcott
These MoDplod in this vid…………
It kind of sounded like they just happened to forget to mention the civil nuclear constabulary who are also armed. :)
I know the nuclear constabulary do fixed installations and not weapons, but they could have been worth a mention. :)
They might be known by people who look into this stuff, but I'd doubt they're known by the average person in the UK.
@@selfesteem1942 everyone in the uk knows we have armed police
@Steve Wolcott if you tell the 999 operator that the man is armed with a gun, you will be sent armed police.
@@aaroncousins4750yes but those are SFOs from the territorial force, not a specialised force like the MDP or CNC
Yeah, don't forget the Civil Nuclear Constabulary who are permanently armed and do the same role as MDP but for non-military nuclear targets in the national infrastructure..
When they said, the only difference between a normal police and an MDP is that they carry firearms. That sounded really weird for me until, I realized its the UK. in the US almost all police officers carry fire arms.
That is a myth, normal UK police are armed
All my local police are armed with at least a sidearm on and off duty, it is a myth that UK police do not carry conventional firearms@ubiquitousubiquitous3843
Huge thank you for your service and bravery on our behalf
"I think the MDP's are the best kept secrets"
"THIS VIDEO?"
2:18 "We are working under the queen's peace ..." I really like this mans britishness.
Its a legal term which means we are not at war
@@ashdabash3 I already knew but cheers anyway.
Advice to whoever decided to mislead with the obviously incorrect "secret" in the title --------------- clickbait titles put many people OFF.
I hate to point out the obvious, but you're here...
@@KieranFoot No you don't.
Actually, click bait titles are the main reason behind getting money from RUclips for the video also this is not lying. They have a lot of information legally classified security level which many police forces don’t have
@UKsystems FACT: "clickbait titles put many people OFF". If a thing is "known" at the YT-video level, then it is NOT secret.
@ you’re saying they put people off, but surely you understand that Clickbait is not Clickbait when it puts people off
Some of them look and sound so young until they get out and theyre actually built.
“Not in a war zone” unlike American police
unfunny
well when American police deal with places like Chicago, Detroit, New York City, Clevland, Newark, Camden, and so many other dangerous places where criminals have easy acess to guns, the police need ways to protect themselves and the public. If a criminal has a handgun, I want police officers to have rifles.
@@snakeboy2644 by that reasoning police in London, Manchester and Birmingham should also have guns. Which I think would be a good thing. Even if some smaller cities have high crime rates, armed criminal rates in the big bad three are probably the only ones comparable to American metropolis rates
@@skibtonio it’s not funny. It’s just reality.
Hats off to ya all departments on force keeping our towns and cities as safe and sound as you can and do. It sure helps make my life seem like I could turn my life at present back on the right road so well done U.K. Police force. 👍💪👍😎
this is the most british thing i’ve ever seen
I've been watching HMS Vigil on the BBC television- are they the ones on the gate pointing their guns at the real police?
The guards in HMS Vigil seem to be RN guards. Note the L85s and berets
UK military bases are guarded by the Military Provost Guard Service (MPGS), Royal Air Force Police (RAFP) or Royal Navy Police (RNP) depending on which service operates at that base. These are not civilian police or MOD police but are regular service men and women.
@Ubiquitous Ubiquitous fair enough, I was personally more familiar with the RAFP having a duty to ensure overall base security as part of their force protection role and, improperly, assumed the Royal Navy police did the same.
@Ubiquitous Ubiquitous Thank you for clearing that up
Hms vigil is a terrible representation of the Royal Navy and the submarine service, the writer is a known SNP and anti trident activist, that’s using the show to push his/her own agenda, don’t believe anything you see on the show, it’s all make believe propaganda
We are doomed they are rolling around in “check engine” light Land rovers 😳
Do you even get any different type of land rover?
@@cornish9496 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Armed Police!"
Lol, what does an unarmed police serve for? Call the armed one?
Unarmed still carry x-2 tasers, pepper spray and botons. Certainly not enough to stop a armed criminal even with a knife.
“You don’t look that closely at the badge on the door” interesting that police officers understand this concept and yet still insist it’s very important that we have 43 different forces…
You found a mentally do not understand things. Do you? People complain? If someone is all powerful over the place? So separate forces professor also like the ministry of defence force makes sense because the ministry of defence handles most likely only certain forces would be able to know
Well done lads absolutely outstanding service God Bless you all Aye GSTQ
lol
UK: ARMED POLICE!!!
Me ( canadian ): wait.... theirs un armed police?
If all police here was armed.. there would be police killing people every week. lots of unstable alcoholic drug addicted police over here
@@BLX187 damn.... I honestly didn't know that, that's rough. Here in Canada our cops are all armed, we have our fair share of corruption but thankfully drugs and alcohol within the force isn't an issue for us. Atleast I hope not lol
@@BLX187 stay safe in that case brother
@@gunsnrosesforever100 Look I'm not the biggest fan of police here but that's total rubbish from no name. The majority of our police do not carry firearms simply because the overwhelming majority of the population do not have firearms. The majority of firearms that do exist are heavily regulated and licensed. Studies in the UK have shown that the UK population (generally) feels more unsafe when seeing officers with firearms. Rather, we have specially trained units to deal with firearm incidents when they rarely occur. Our standard police are trained incredibly well in de-escalation techniques that don't require guns.
@@Rob-rd4em tbh I've met a few people from the UK and I've always asked them why the cops don't have guns and everyone always replied with " they don't need them ". I actually think it's really cool that you guys don't give every officer a gun, I think it's smart to train in de- escalation rather then use a gun for de-escalation.
One of the few competent police forces in the UK.
''The secret armed police'' Well they aren't very secret anymore are they? You've told everyone about them now.
Yes I was thinking that
I agree it's a bit stupid but it's not like they're SAS, there's no statute saying their faces need to be pixilated
It’s not that they’re a ‘secret’ because they are very public about their presence, it’s purely because alot of people are still unaware of their existence so it’s just an eye catching title.
However many things surrounding them are secret and protected by the ministry of defence that is very important to know a lot of things are not kept public
@UKsystems Sure, but the point is that while their specific existence is deniable they have an easier job.
The SAS said the same about the time when their regiment was officially announced because while they were a secret, as far as their potential enemies were concerned, they were just the equivalent of a folk tale designed to scare them, but once revealed to be real they lost the particular element of surprise.
It's generally a good idea to keep your cards close to your chest especially when your hand is good.
All that training just to monitor social media
Nothing like training with your fingers on the triggers
ye that's weird.... why they left their finger in?
And? it isn't exactly good training if you don't do everything in exactly the same way you would in a real event. For all you know the guns being used for training were replicas and all scenes I saw here with fingers on triggers were training to search and clear an area... where you would keep your finger on the trigger. The guns being used for fire exercises were converted to blank firers as can be seen by the yellow tips on the rifles.
If you cant trust yourself not too apply pressure to trigger while holding a gun you shouldn't be holding a gun in the first place.
@@imunknown9392 that’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while. Wow
@@imunknown9392 most training around the world advises to keep fingers off the trigger until ready to fire. Riding the trigger could result in an accident if the weilder were to fall of panic. Not surprised seeing that in this video however Brit’s are generally pretty poor when it comes to firearms.
"a very, very angry white man in the van."
i know, I was like why did he need to say it like that.
They carry so much equipment it would be hard for them to chase someone on foot especially in confined spaces.
Actually that’s not that much equipment if you have a decent physical condition. (Army guy here)
You do know that they literally train with their gear on, and so does any other unit like this or something higher then this.
@@alexandrerebmann203 difference is you tend to stop the humping kit lark in your 40s in the army. These lads are doing it until 65
@@SnakePliskin762 In my country it’s a militia actually (luckily i did not stay that much in the army) but still, we are talking about around of equipment at most!
(4 for the primary, 0,5 for the secondary, lets say 1,5 for the batteries/magazines/taser and around 3 for the light kevlar vest) that’s around 9kg, 10 pushing.
It’s their job to stay fit and 10kg of equipment is really easy to carry when you get used to it.
4:28 why are there fingers always on the trigger???
The MDP do a great job of looking after the nuclear deterrent and the people who maintain the CASD activity. It was always great to see them doing their jobs. Carry on the good work 😄👍
4:28 Nice trigger discipline lol
MOD Plod aren't exactly secret and the guy at the start is wrong , I always look at the door of the vehicles , I always look to see if they're real police or not.
Have many run ins with polics do you?
I always look for the crest/logo of the police force. When you're in your local area it should be fairly recognisable.
Sadly you get wanabe jumped up security guards and civilian k9 patrols that try to make their vehicles look as much like police as possible, even using the blue and yellow Battenberg decal just with the tiniest change in brightness.
@@jamesbyford7614 he said he checks the logo on the door to see if they’re real police or not
@@jamesbyford7614 Well obviously not for unmarked cars. I simply said looking at the crest of a police car can show it it’s real, because some people try to make their vehicles looks as police like as possible and push the law to it’s limit
@irigouis88 Interogative "usually?"
That's who I did my work experience with in High School. Great memories. 👍🏼
I know someone who does this.
It's the most boring, unfulfilling job you can imagine.
It's 99% training and 1% being a security guard.
Because nothing ever happens.
Only reason they are Police is to carry firearms, they’re basically glorified security guards but UK laws are so jurassic that only police, military and certain parts of government can carry firearms. No private companies. Mod plod mostly stand outside a gate, sit in a kiosk drinking tea or asleep in a patrol car. Hence the high volume of transfers out. UK (the nanny state) is very different to foreign police forces.
Keeps them out of your hands then thankfully
@@SnakePliskin762ok boomer
Well they’re funded well aren’t they. Look at all of those Land Rovers 😂
Do they protect the nukes what fail to fire or the other ones
So what you’re saying is they’re just as equipped as a LAPD officer?
Yh basically lol. These guys are just the same as the uk Armed police, dont carry anything special, or even do anything special. According to the video these guys are "essential" but that's something to debate
we have much more intense and longer training here, plus most armed police in the uk are ex military
UK also doesn't have a moronic 2nd amendment leaving guns unrestricted and unsecured to addicts who get their drugs from southern countries who were destabilised thanks to the NRA selling to the CIA.
@@manager6711 makes sense lol
@@billmclachlanamateurwriter idk about that the UK isn’t as big or as diverse as the US so not every department is trained the same. Some have employ good tactics some don’t. Not every city has the same demographics of population or social economics. So I feel like saying the UK has more of something (in this case training) is honestly subjective until proven objective. Plus many factors play into the training of police units in the states again due the its diverse nature of people, income status and overall general satisfaction of living in a certain metropolitan, city, town, parish or community.
Great work guys keep safe ✊
“We shoot once and reassess” 😂
Thanks for the video
It just sounds a bit boring as a job, pretty much an armed security guard.
Can you move easily into the rest of the U.K. police force?
I’m sure they usually purposely recruit serving armed officers, although they do sometimes open up applications for everyone. Probably could move forces from the MDP tho
@elmer fudd no it's weathersfield in essex
did he said “”Oiii bruv police stay wheye ya are oi stay wheye yo are””
Guys, they're calling it secret because nobody knows about it, not because everything about it is classified information or something.
Well I’m sure people know about it if they posted it on RUclips and have “POLICE” plastered on their backs 😂
@@Kilo-sz4ch People who have seen this video will know about it, yes, but most people wouldn't.
So it's an accidental secret?
'The secret police unit' so here they are, can you see them, here are John, Tom, Dave, Steve, Paul, and Phil. 😂😂
2:11 "We're civilian police officers, we're not above the law"
and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself
This attitude allows police officers to become corrupt. You assume every police officer is correct so anti-corruption investigations are immediately tainted with the attitude that the complaint is not genuine. You always corruption to continue
A friend of my father was a MoD policeman, my father was a MoD firefighter in RAF Halton,
I really don‘t want to be that guy, but I have to: Finger on the trigger when moving? Having one officer stand between the taser and the subject? Closing in the distance with the taser? Holding the rifle on the magwell?
All that fancy gear will be useless if that‘s their level of training.
The magwell grip isn't that bad for non-conventional handling, worse has been done by better. Closing with a taser would make sense if a lethal was also readied.
The rest of your points are proof that, while the British train more, they don't train better.
how cutee its really nice to see the police getting involved with Bring your kid to work day! truly inspirational lmao
I was expecting special forces but we got your bobby on the beat with guns
@Yeshua Is Lord isn’t that the job of… the police…
I convinced whoever came up with the shoot one bullet then reasses has never shot anyone before. There have been people who were shot multiple times to vital organs and have continued fighting for minutes afterwards. Shooting one bullet and having the person immedialty drop to the ground is simply not going to happen everytime.
2:14 grip looks a little weird
If you curious to see how nuclear police works in other countries, I know the french equivalent are called the Gendarmerie PSPG
In the US it's either a federal agent or special deputized security guards.
No no they are not…… they are just Scurity guards. Nothing more nothing less.
Uks most known security guards...with the largest list of unused toys
You should hope to god that they never have to use them, because it'd most likely mean that some group got organized enough to launch an attack to capture nuclear weapons. That'd be disaster
asked few of the squaddies even they don't know who they really are or what is their purpose, just like scotland's national animal.
God bless these truly heroic men/women for protecting our beautiful nation with the highest extent of democratic severity, bravery and intelligence. As the Metropolitan Police Force, you really are one of, if not, the most valuable credit to our virtuous society ⚖️☮️💖⚔️
I think I'm gonna throw up🤮🤮🤮
@@adrianh332 why?
Yeah,just like they guard our shores,🤮
Living Safely in the 21st Century.
interesting to note the trigger safety on the approach.. I always thought the minute you touch the trigger it is to fire the weapon.
Not necessarily, it means you have a target in sight and are ready to fire if need be, but are still waiting for the bad guy to do something that would warrant opening fire. Readiness on the trigger means they can open fire in a fraction of a second, before the threat can let off a round.
@@Oscar-bu4xk That is wrong and bad training, you should never have a finger on the trigger ever !, unless you are about to fire, look at the SF they are trained that good, they can pull a handgun from a holster take the safety off in 1 second with fluid motion and be ready to deal with the threat
This guy is bringing gun range rules to a gunfight
@@nickr753 Considering most first world country militaries heavily prioritize trigger safety on and off the field it's probably more than just gun range rules.
@@Oscar-bu4xk so if you sneezed you would end an unarmed man's life? I thought English people were more intelligent that this braindead comment
Every now & then after work at A local Carvery I sometimes pop in to MacDonalds for my evening dinner & I see a few police officers who have actual hand guns in their holsters ordering food
So basically the MOD Police Force Officer is basically a Regular Police Officer in the USA?
No, we actually train our police officers
Nope they haven't killed innocent people
@@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476 They have sadly but it is cover up in the name of National Defense. Do you think they would tell us everything?
Nope. These officers are actually trained :)
this lot couldn't defend a lolly-pop from a small child xD
You say that but they would take you down with their hands behind their back
UK: “Armed police”
US: say what…is there any other kind of police?
UK: regular police
US: mall cops
or your police are essentially a military force and our police are just police. or you could grow up and see your police as American police who have different equipment to deal with different crimes in a different country and the British police have different equipment to deal with different crimes in a different country
The MDP's biggest job
Gate goes up,
Gate goes down
Commonly know as MOD PLOD
Last refuge of the Walt….
Thank you for not revealing the faces of these officers to keep their identities priva...👏 oh wait
I dont think they cared as there clearly fine being filmed😂
Their not spehical forces in the army, their just a spechialist unit of the police for the MOD. The most striking thing they acompany is nukes but even then they are with the royal marines. (You can't actully use said nuke for the record without the sub)
@@mauzki- when you think about it, it's kind of sad because the reason they are there (other than send away random idiots that probably never go there), is to buy time for the military to arrive in an emergency. Luckily unlikely to happen
Yeah, their more the first line of defence but more then likely have basically an entire battalion defending with them when nuclear weapons are moved. @@inumitovd7900
£28k salary advertised for Faslane gotta do better than that
"They carry Guns"
Meanwhile in the USA: civillians just got his self made incemdary ammo, rpg 7, hand grenades, mini gun and elon musks flamethrower
Lowest ranking police officer gets an APC with a mounted light machine gun.
Not quite, but close lol.
and free tarhets as young as 10
HOT protocol too to looking at suspicious packages, bags or boxes.
Best paid security guards in the UK. Main difference between these guys and regular British police is not that they are armed - it is that they will likely go through a whole career without ever arresting anyone or doing any actual Police work 😂 It is a weird force to want to join - imagine how boring it must be and all that training to never actually do anything. It is not like Islamic or right wing terrorists target these establishments.
Yes exactly they should send them out on patrol in a town every other month so they could experience real stress of the job. Training is not like the real deal. You need to experience reality to become really skilled.
CNC do patrol at the request of local forces, and they do support counter terrorism operations.
4:17 … he can arrest me any day !!! Those arms !!! He is beautiful
It ridiculous how we treat armed police in the UK. To think its possible for an officers to shoot and kill a terrorist and the cop is the one who ends up in court.
Like de Menezes ?
@@Stazi2tierkier when you're having to pick on one or two slightly less ideal cases from the last 3 decades then it suggests that they're not doing a bad job.
US: Nuclear Special Forces
British: Just bunch of good blokes and coppers
MDP? Was always Mod Plod in my day.
I was going to say MOD Plod and how they hate being called it 🤣
@@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266 well its no different to all the names given to any other police force
Didn't know this unit exist, coz I remember UK's nuclear weapons especially the Clyde base is protected by 43 Commando Fleet Protection Group, a specialized group of Royal Marines. I guess they both work together in some capacity.
Uhh, “they are special because they are armed”
All ARV’s: Soo, I guess we don’t carry guns when on patrol in London etc
Yh are they the same as the armed police in London like bully vans or different
@@ant-vi7vv they are very similar, carry the same weapons and the same gear expect the helmets as they are more like the Counter terrorism ones
ARVs: am I a joke to you?
@@Dan-pz2cw Also the PSNI. Although the PSNI only really carry a single pistol, not a full-on rifle.
All police officers are the same, don’t trust them. Trigger happy…..
uk police: thinks before shooting
usa police: shoots before thinking
Possibly true in the past but since the 2019 London bridge stabbing the UK police are following more of a US model where they kill anyone that seems to be an ongoing threat immediately no questions asked.
I'm really not sure how the decision to shoot is any different to that of a soldier. But then he was in the navy ...
Imagine in America cops running around yelling armed police lol
I imagine they'll be alot less murdering
I saw something on TV about UK nuclear convoys and then saw one on the motorway the next week. Exciting!
Couldn't imagine this to be a particularly thrilling job day to day
It is actually extremely boring. Basically nothing happens during your entire career.
@@bigcalamaro Not as bad as the CNC at least.
@@bigcalamaro it’s not all that boring actually, they have to go to the gun range for weapons training every once in a while and then you have all the vegetables with their conspiracy theories trying to enter the ‘top secret government bunker’ which is literally just the comms station and storage.
How boring is it
It not secret if we know about them
Only secret here is RUclips secretly changing my writing.
They are issued with guns but if they use them they get into trouble, that is really putting a strain on the officers, they should not be prosecuted if they had to discharge their weapon. With their strict training and body camera evidence it should be easy to prove it was needed.
Thats a fine weapon. I wonder where it comes from?💪🇨🇦🇨🇦
🇨🇦🇨🇦 I wonder where it comes from eh? I’d love to open a couple bags of milk down range with a nice rifle such as.
@@Stopes. it’s loads of fun, I have a similar rifle made by Springfield armory. They said in the video that the rifles were colt which means they were probably made in the US.
@@haywoodjablome9642 The C7 and C8 were made by Diemaco, which was purchased by Colt. Diemaco is now called Colt Canada, and they continue to make these rifles.
MOD Plod😅😅😅 nice to see they've moved up from Bicycles to Vehicles😂
Why are they walking around with their finger on the trigger, arent they supposed to be well trained? What about trigger discipline?
thats what i thought too, very unprofessional.
They will have the safety on so the can put their finger on the trigger
@@deadeye1437 thats counter productive
I didn't notice that the first time I watched it, but yeah, that's a super sketchy way to carry a firearm. Even a small unexpected bump could cause a negligent discharge. I was wondering if this was just a British thing, so I went and looked at some videos of Royal Marines doing CQB, and nope, they all index, so these guys just aren't up to the standards of most professional combat arms folks.
The giant GoPro on the front of the weapon didn't inspire a lot of confidence either.
@@deadeye1437 no safety on a glock
A great video of training exercises, the real thing is different!
3:05 If this guy came through the door shouting the odds I would probably laugh my head off