Political despondency and why Kenya is treading on a murky path -

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 137

  • @kevinfred4064
    @kevinfred4064 7 лет назад +27

    Miguna and Otiende very smart minds indeed!

  • @georgebundi4380
    @georgebundi4380 7 лет назад +7

    I enjoy Miguna Miguna speak . He makes sense in all his facts. Straight and to the point. Also Mr Otiende his great and explains ideas well. The two gentlemen bring live to the show. MIGUNA needs to be in most if not all shows.

  • @brantayo6507
    @brantayo6507 7 лет назад +6

    miguna miguna thank you

  • @shamimwamanya4598
    @shamimwamanya4598 7 лет назад +7

    MIGUNA AND OTIENDE YOU ARE VERY REALISTIC IN YOUR EXPLANATIONS

  • @janesomoleomole3365
    @janesomoleomole3365 7 лет назад +9

    Miguna and Otiende are Technocrats in the field of law Congratulations my lords. The other team needs to sober up and understand the Questions

  • @7428tony
    @7428tony 7 лет назад +2

    I love listening to Miguna Miguna he speaks sense , with facts, without fear or favour.

  • @pn2074
    @pn2074 7 лет назад +12

    I agree with miguna miguna, the two gentleman on the right can never be admitted to a high school.

  • @wisdomsecrates5437
    @wisdomsecrates5437 7 лет назад +10

    Miguna Is Smart Man In Kenya

  • @willieairo1963
    @willieairo1963 7 лет назад +10

    Otiende.....truly a wise man

  • @georgeogechi8582
    @georgeogechi8582 7 лет назад +5

    Ichungwa anatakaaje sasa na hii maneno ya Justice Mwilu na Amos Wako ni ujinga ako nayo hapo. Miguna mpige Ichungwa na Wamatangi boot

  • @nephatoliech5601
    @nephatoliech5601 7 лет назад +33

    The only person I enjoy listening to is Miguna Miguna, his absence in the last few discussions has been boring. Migs brings the meat of the debate, makes it live and soulful. Others like wamatangi and matiangi, and this other guy do not have any substance. I really hope that some day people will elect miguna miguna for the presidency in kenya. That is when we will have a respectable executive who can reason out why and how he does what he does., not a tribal good. MIGUNA MIGUNA FOR PRESIDENT!

  • @jameswilliammugeni6876
    @jameswilliammugeni6876 7 лет назад +5

    But this Miguna Miguna is just a talent.

  • @davidsandimba8613
    @davidsandimba8613 7 лет назад +1

    I LIKE THIS MAN MIGUNA....PRECISE AND ON POINT

  • @godsfavorite4574
    @godsfavorite4574 7 лет назад +8

    *CAN YOU PLEASE STOP BOOKING WAMABHANGI !!!*

  • @emanuelmkumbwa5341
    @emanuelmkumbwa5341 7 лет назад +4

    This man Miguna! A thorn in Jubilee's ass.

  • @daveaverena7970
    @daveaverena7970 7 лет назад +7

    Miguna is always right

  • @marykroll6709
    @marykroll6709 7 лет назад +1

    Great minds miguna miguna and otiende amollo

  • @dotgazelle
    @dotgazelle 7 лет назад +1

    Bring it on...Miguna thumbs up 👍

  • @cyrillec.c9285
    @cyrillec.c9285 7 лет назад +6

    Miguna Miguna and Otiende Amollo are the only sober brains in this debate followed by the host....

  • @morrismwenda9138
    @morrismwenda9138 2 года назад

    Miguna Miguna is a very brilliant, articulate and astute person.

  • @Crabtree1844
    @Crabtree1844 7 лет назад +4

    How do I mute all BUT Dibal, Miguna, and Otiende?

  • @the_DE_network
    @the_DE_network 7 лет назад +7

    A CASE OF LOGIC (AMOLLO AND MIGUNA) VS MEDIOCRE...

  • @loanneokongo
    @loanneokongo 7 лет назад +2

    Loving Double M!

  • @freshfreddy5188
    @freshfreddy5188 7 лет назад +3

    if errors were committed during transmission, the w will ask about msando

  • @kevinfred4064
    @kevinfred4064 7 лет назад +15

    I am just here to listen to Miguna, Wamatangi and Otiende and I mute the others.

    • @bonirasras7234
      @bonirasras7234 7 лет назад

      Wamatangi please come to your senses...you making us jubilee and kikuyus look demagots...

    • @bonirasras7234
      @bonirasras7234 7 лет назад

      Dont blame raila and wamalwa on in securing the french company....jesus picked judas bit later became traitor

    • @kevinfred4064
      @kevinfred4064 7 лет назад

      What you think doesn't concern me

  • @vinns2088
    @vinns2088 7 лет назад +4

    Tafadhali Kenyans Mugana Mugana I think he has traits of.... Hail Salese ........Dedan Kemathi .....Nelson Mandela SAD

  • @meshackamayi97
    @meshackamayi97 7 лет назад +2

    Miguna could be a good English teacher

  • @nephatoliech5601
    @nephatoliech5601 7 лет назад +5

    If Raila introduced safran morpho to the country, it does not mean that Safran Morpho have done a good job. It is pure logic!, I also feel let down by ichungwa for even mentioning that Raila is the one who introduced it to kenya!. It is like taking the blame for a friend of yours who sleeps with your wife in your absence, and then your wife says that "Si it is you who introduced him to me?". What kind of corrupt reasoning is that? THESE GUYS ARE CORRUPT INSIDE THE BRAIN!!! ANYTHING THEY DO OR SAY IS CORRUPTION! HOW AND WHY SHOULD YOU TRUST THEM??. It is time to find a different company to do their job!. Buying time and not allowing for changes in the system, in otherwords delaying tactics in no excuse. Chebukati would have started to immediately seek new avenues to provide a clean election. I don't understand why Jubilee feels so strongly against a level playing field???!! doesn't this only help their argument that they have the numbers? and will easily and credibly win the elections? Currently the way Jubilee is acting is like they are the ones who are afraid of losing the elections. As an honest Jubilee guy, I would let Raila and his team get the playing field level, and then squarely beat them in broad daylight, and justify our position of a true win, and then we will sort out the justice system.

  • @gunternyatundi2309
    @gunternyatundi2309 7 лет назад +3

    Mind over matter ... Jubillee "top lawyers" cant deal..

  • @daveaverena7970
    @daveaverena7970 7 лет назад +5

    Why is ichungwa getting emotional, is just a debate. Ralax!!

  • @godsfavorite4574
    @godsfavorite4574 7 лет назад +6

    *MIGUNA TIBIM*

  • @johnmuteti7362
    @johnmuteti7362 7 лет назад +6

    Miguna anaeza kua skiza tone yangu

  • @vinns2088
    @vinns2088 7 лет назад +4

    Wacheni ujingawa Kenya tafadhali...Miguna for president ...ooi issues issues ..don.t fall for dividing tactics....colonialism days no wander tutaendelea hivo hivo NA MUKAE HIVO HIVO

  • @wisdomsecrates5437
    @wisdomsecrates5437 7 лет назад +2

    Tribalism is killing Kenya....

  • @pauleric7534
    @pauleric7534 7 лет назад +1

    I do appreciate the detailed articulation of the issues (especially as thoroughly as the Miguna's and Otiende's of this world are doing it). But we also need to hear what Juibilee advocates are trying to claim. THE MORE YOU LISTEN TO JUBILEE 'LOGIC' AND COMBINE IT WITH OUR HISTORICAL FACTS, THE MORE IT IS CONVINCING TO CONCLUDE these are the people who have killed Kenya's development ! It is Kenyatta 1, Moi and Kenyatta 2 that are SINGULARLY RESPONSIBLE for KENYA being as BACKWARDS as it is more than 50 years after this journey begun! If it were not for Kibaki (and even the nusu mukate gova) Kenya would by now resemble DRC or Haiti in economy and per capita income! Moi was trying to catch up with Mobutu, and Uhuru is like Baby Doc Duvalier!

  • @Buonjiboy
    @Buonjiboy 7 лет назад +4

    It always seems like Kikuyus and Luos are fighting !!! We shud just secede and form two countries !! Oil and water cannot mix

    • @Buonjiboy
      @Buonjiboy 7 лет назад +1

      Debarl is an awesome Journalist... mediator .....very impartial ... Awesome wrk

    • @Crabtree1844
      @Crabtree1844 7 лет назад

      Buonjiboy iko nini ?? He makes sense, and plenty of it.

  • @agerodipo5254
    @agerodipo5254 7 лет назад +1

    We are going somewhere

  • @bruceoyamo377
    @bruceoyamo377 7 лет назад +8

    This Kikuyus are only out to defend Jubilee and uhuru in a stupid manner.The truth is nothing but truth stop defending stupidity and Jubilee mediocrity.Miguna it's my prayers that you go back and work with NASA community because you are not only intelligent but walking constitution.

  • @AliClay
    @AliClay 7 лет назад +1

    Regardless of your political inclinations....Any person with half a brain will agree with Miguna's sentiments.

  • @MrMaajabuyamusa
    @MrMaajabuyamusa 7 лет назад +3

    Jubillee NUMBNUTS!!!!

  • @wisdomsecrates5437
    @wisdomsecrates5437 7 лет назад +6

    Miguna Is Right.....

  • @Mandology575
    @Mandology575 7 лет назад +2

    Tribalism is what is going to finish Kenya.

  • @mirandaal4541
    @mirandaal4541 7 лет назад

    This discussion took place on 20th September - before the Supreme Court full judgement and before the election date was pushed back to October 26 - and was posted yesterday five days later.

  • @joelsodongohz9899
    @joelsodongohz9899 7 лет назад

    It's so sad that we're being hold hostage in our country by so called Politicians. Kenyans are yet to mature in politics.

  • @isteve8907
    @isteve8907 7 лет назад

    from 44.30 miguna starts FIRE

  • @rehemaomar9128
    @rehemaomar9128 7 лет назад +4

    Tribalism is real, ichungwa n wamatangi the thunderstorms that will strike u is still jogging

  • @karanjakamau57
    @karanjakamau57 7 лет назад +38

    Wamatangi please for a moment can you stop being a tribalist and a jubilee sycophant and think abaut the futureof this country,i am a kikuyu from gatundu but i am very sure that if this country burns not even kikuyus will be spared,so lets see ourselves as kenyans after all nobody will be buried with his tribe talk less of his wealth

    • @beyondboundaries2
      @beyondboundaries2 7 лет назад +2

      How has Uhuru's presidency affected your life? You speak as though politicians are your parents, soon you will understand that politicians do not care about you the way you care about them. Focus on developing yourself and stop being a senile sycophant ...

    • @mahabusuwakimawazo9364
      @mahabusuwakimawazo9364 7 лет назад +1

      karanja kamau ubarikiwe

    • @mahabusuwakimawazo9364
      @mahabusuwakimawazo9364 7 лет назад +2

      Kathleen Wangare for you no doubt you are a Kenyan from Central province who happens to hold a different political idea.

    • @Mandology575
      @Mandology575 7 лет назад +1

      You can’t be a Kikuyu with that perfect English.

    • @jmuchoki2615
      @jmuchoki2615 7 лет назад +1

      So since you are kikuyu you allow someone to seat on you?.

  • @vinns2088
    @vinns2088 7 лет назад +3

    1 MORE THING NTV STOP SHOWING APPLE SIGNS ON UR LAPTOPS I HOPE THEY PAY U WELL 4 FREE ADS

    • @MrMaajabuyamusa
      @MrMaajabuyamusa 7 лет назад +1

      Vinns Mager the damn IDIOTS re clueless! They think they are flossing to us!

  • @winpadcommunications4801
    @winpadcommunications4801 7 лет назад +1

    You mean to tell us for example since baba introduced safamorpho to iebc so we need not to questions any mistakes done by them. Just a simple question plz if u a wife brings a maid in the house, the maid mess up you can't question her? She can just continue messing up.plz be sincere with ua answers.

  • @bongisaotienp5466
    @bongisaotienp5466 7 лет назад +1

    MIGUNA YOU ARE BRIGHT,WHY LIE? LECTURE THEM SIR

  • @saveodenyo2931
    @saveodenyo2931 7 лет назад +1

    Oh God. And joki

  • @kennetholaka9951
    @kennetholaka9951 7 лет назад +1

    Jubelee should be. selective ,they should get senseable people who have high standards of reasoning over the media, Wamatangi has nothing before men like Minguna and Otiende.Give as people who can remain in the matter of the day

  • @babradomenic7564
    @babradomenic7564 7 лет назад

    Talk talk talk.............Kenya is burning, lets wait next week 26.10 and see how far............nonsense

  • @vincentotieno2161
    @vincentotieno2161 7 лет назад +10

    haha Miguna is ok the prob is those who hate the truth and we differ on tumbo yetu..the true will of kikuyu people and jubilee is leave me alone ..what a stupid arguments..bure kabisa

  • @DO-kw5mb
    @DO-kw5mb 7 лет назад +5

    ntv plz stop kuleta this Kikuyu's kwa national tv

  • @maureenclydes200
    @maureenclydes200 7 лет назад +1

    why is wamachungwa spitting venom.its never that serious.

  • @dennisamadiva1035
    @dennisamadiva1035 7 лет назад +1

    " he talks about corruption and cartels of corruption and where they reside,and then quotes the worst person you should quote in the republic of kenya" hahahahahaha this puchline

  • @SuperZackspeed
    @SuperZackspeed 7 лет назад +1

    How is MM a doctor?

    • @raphaelmurage5527
      @raphaelmurage5527 7 лет назад +3

      SuperZackspeed phD..doctor of philosophy..in law..

    • @phinidyngore754
      @phinidyngore754 7 лет назад +1

      Only undergraduate asks such a question

    • @janeomolo3047
      @janeomolo3047 7 лет назад +2

      I guess you have no bachelor's degree. miguna holds 4 degrees.

    • @SuperZackspeed
      @SuperZackspeed 7 лет назад

      jane omolo one can have 4 degrees and not have a doctorate. Since when did Miguna have a doctorate degree?

    • @janeomolo3047
      @janeomolo3047 7 лет назад +2

      since this year. He has a PhD in law, Masters in law, bachelor's in law, Bachelors in political science/ philosophy (double major). all from University of Toronto and York University (osgoode hall) satisfaction? ?

  • @Briloch
    @Briloch 7 лет назад +2

    Every time Kimani Ichungwa opens his mouth, I mute and open a new tab. The rest can debate issues, Ichungwa is just a loud-mouthed sycophant who is just doing some uncalled for bidding. First he needs to check his emotions and feelings

  • @willieairo1963
    @willieairo1963 7 лет назад +1

    Deal with them Miguna...ignorantia Ang'owaaaaa.... i was on the floor

  • @oyay2821
    @oyay2821 7 лет назад +2

    Miguna is the real deal

  • @panaemilili3809
    @panaemilili3809 7 лет назад +2

    Kwani miguna alipata kazi kama news anchor
    Si kwa ubaya lakini akiwa churchil show ingeweza mbaya

    • @panaemilili3809
      @panaemilili3809 7 лет назад

      habbil H.O wewe akili yako huwa imeregea
      Ukabila imetoka wapi hapo??
      Enyewe some people are out of this space
      Wewe ni Alien 👽
      Tibim wewe!!!
      Tialala wewe!!!

    • @mikekamau4127
      @mikekamau4127 7 лет назад

      Debar whatever your name is your are a biased against jubilee debaters every time they make a comment you interrupt you allow nassa side to abuse others but when they try to defend themselves you butt in be neutral I wonder why they were in your show why not just invite nassa

    • @ianodhiambo1796
      @ianodhiambo1796 7 лет назад +1

      You think is funny I guess you are a kid,peleka utoto mbali this forum is not for you.

  • @ambroseouma5899
    @ambroseouma5899 7 лет назад

    Luos vs kiuks

  • @abdiazizsheikh2344
    @abdiazizsheikh2344 7 лет назад +4

    DO YOU KNOW AL-GHURAIR?
    These are the countries Al Ghurair has supplied ballot papers: Uganda, Zambia, Kenya, Central African Republic, Nepal, Haiti, Guinea, Libya, Iraq, Burundi, Egypt, Sudan, South Sudan and Rwanda.Please underline one that is not at war...
    Uganda have had Yoweri Museveni as President since I was two. Zambia's Edgar Lungu jailed the opposition candidate and threatened him with war if he dared open his mouth.
    I am not speaking of Kenya.
    Two million people have fled the Central African Republic since Muslim Seleka rebels overthrew Francois Bozize, in 2013. In Haiti, Michel Martely still rules through his handpicked successors who run riot and kill at will. Despite being the largest and economically dominant ethnic group, no Fulani has ever been president of Guinea, where the Malinke have found the trick to beat the 'tyranny of numbers' nonsense with a dose of rogue dictatorship here and a pinch of military coups there.
    Long Live Muammar Qaddafi, since the collapse of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya in 2011 there has been a relentless civil war between the Council of Deputies in Tobruk and its supporters up East. Fuad Masum became only the second ethnic Kurdish to be president of Iraq and now the Kurds are already voting in a referendum to secede from Baghdad. The results are expected any time from now.
    I will not speak ill of Rwanda, their embassy is right here under my nose and I may be picked for questioning by their President who has just won another round with 99% of the votes. Burundi is the smallest EAC country but who has been giving us the greatest grief, Pierre Nkurunziza can as well inject his veins with alligator serum, and rule forever if he so wishes.
    Look at the two Sudans waiting for me to describe their failed state indices. I shall not waste my ink doing so, Salva Kiir and Omar Bashir can as well re-unite the two caliphates and reign terror on their people till Kingdom come.
    If Al Ghurair were to organize a contest for their new company motto, the winning line would be; "We Legitimize Failed Leadership At Affordable Prices".
    And business seems to be booming

    • @sheikhasaid3646
      @sheikhasaid3646 7 лет назад

      abdiaziz sheikh omg is this legit

    • @drahmeddahir4704
      @drahmeddahir4704 7 лет назад

      Oh! Abdiaziz, you must be an experienced writer. the line "look at the two Sudans" hit me so hard with laughter.

    • @AliClay
      @AliClay 7 лет назад

      I just find it inferior from us as Africans that foreigners have to print ballot papers for us. Are we that compromised that we cant print our own ballot papers?

    • @AliClay
      @AliClay 7 лет назад

      I agree with your analysis except the Sudan part. Sudan a stable country and can never compared to the hell-hole that is South Sudan. Yes Sudan may need a change of ruler but i dont think their station is that bad. Eritrea, Ethiopia and Egypt have it less when it it comes to democracy compared to Sudan.

  • @nduhiumutitu2765
    @nduhiumutitu2765 7 лет назад

    The tragedy of luos is that they see themselves as extremely smart, but when you probe for the output of the smartness you find none.Find another way of defining intelligence, what you call intelligence is idiocy.

    • @phorstinejuma9804
      @phorstinejuma9804 7 лет назад

      nduhiu mutitu Luos are just smart please and you know that
      Barack obama
      James Orengo
      Raila Odinga
      Lupita Nyong'o
      patrick lumumba
      Milly Odhiambo
      e.t.c
      so my friend relax your small balls

  • @bellahatieno7692
    @bellahatieno7692 7 лет назад +3

    Am listening and watching KIMANI ichungwa speak with soo much hatred and bitterness towards his collegue unlike wa matiangi who challenges his counterpart with maturity and good ideolgies.ICHIUNGWA please put your personal feelings a side while debating!Irritating and annoying watching you speak.

  • @saveodenyo2931
    @saveodenyo2931 7 лет назад +1

    Solutions pls jubilee. You never adress what's is at hand but blame game. How do we get solutuons. That's the problem with siding lies. Pls know jubulee this elections have made you appear so foolish in yr reasoning. It's a shame. Just be true and address what's before you.

  • @Buonjiboy
    @Buonjiboy 7 лет назад +3

    Different in skin color , different in brain , different in language , We don't love each other what's the point of living together ....let's face it Kikuyus and Luos hate each other . We will never think the same !!! I mean look at this panel , indicative of the state of Kenya !! Luos vs Kikuyus hilarious !!

    • @fredrickaxel7798
      @fredrickaxel7798 7 лет назад

      Buonjiboy iko nini ?? They are only enemies when it comes to politics.

    • @Buonjiboy
      @Buonjiboy 7 лет назад

      Fredrick Axel no such thing once enemies always one !

  • @johnkara8719
    @johnkara8719 7 лет назад

    Wamatangi is a genius. Well done senator

  • @collinsonyuka4639
    @collinsonyuka4639 7 лет назад

    I hate to see mps going out of the topic and discussing thier own topic of whether the IEBC is ready

  • @johnkara8719
    @johnkara8719 7 лет назад

    Wamatangi won the debate hands down. Well done senator

  • @jane7915
    @jane7915 7 лет назад +2

    Miguna Miguna when does he have time for his wife? He's always in the studio. His children need fatherly love. His home seems to be living in the Studio.

  • @mzeeplato5586
    @mzeeplato5586 7 лет назад

    Poorly conducted interview.

  • @wisdomsecrates5437
    @wisdomsecrates5437 7 лет назад +6

    Miguna Is Right....