What fine finish airless tips are you a fan of using?.. Graco FFLP, Wagner Fine Finish or TriTech Ultra Fine Finish.. Always good to hear about your experience and get your opinion.. regards Pete
208 ..If the viscosity is thin enough to atomise at a lower / reasonable pressure ..Then 210 for thicker / decorative coatings (by decorative, I mean a product that could be brush / rolled as well as spray).. 210 / 310 is typically used in spraying woodwork / trim paints 👍
Hi Pete, a very useful reference guide to the need to vary pressures depended on the tip - evidently not all tips are created equal! Many thanks for posting and best wishes, Rob
What a great video. Please consider talking- I'd listen to you share your thoughts about this stuff for hours. Thanks for taking the time to compare everything & having the courtesy and generosity to share with everyone. I'm going to check the rest of your channel👍
Thank you for your kind feedback.. My later videos include me speaking, it was another step towards being able to deliver as much information as possible.. really appreciate you watching and your support.. keep in touch.. regards Pete 💙💯
I would say the graco tip is the best purely for lower pressure and over spray especially if it in a occupied house on site it doesn't really matter I have used a 208 on spindles and hand rail the only issue I had was the tip stopping but that was my fault for not straining and letting the paint down a touch but overall they are great tips
Info in this video is exceptional Pete The variables in spraying with pressure tip size and product can be quite stark low viscosity products are much more beneficial for spraying and the Akzo Noble is now my go to and thanks to you and all the support you have given me now means I can start to use all my Ultra tips now rather than having them melted down to build a tank. 😂
Hi Les, yeah I do rate using a hopper 👏👏👏 ..Remind me which pump are you using?.. Oh, told you I would give flat tips a run out 😆 ..although not quite what you had in mind 🙈 ..It’s the Durr AAA gun.. ruclips.net/video/Ep47YYghgq0/видео.html ..Seriously though, they are on my list to use, I appreciate your input and contribution on the channel 🙏 ..Take care my friend, speak to you soon.. regards Pete
This is a great video and one I was searching for for a while. I had to keep scrolling to find. I knew there had to be a video of someone comparing and helps us when buying tips. Do I need to spend money for the RAC X guard and FFLP tips or could I use titans SC-6 for a similar finish, this video helps narrow down the choices. Thank you
Thank you so much for watching and your kind feedback 💙 I’d go with Graco FF LP tips for the low pressure advantage.. Maybe this more recent video helps - I go more in detail, spraying various fine finish materials, and demonstrating dialling in the pressure.. Airless Spray Tips. A Complete Tutorial to Choosing the RIGHT TIP SIZE ruclips.net/video/XNser2vbSiE/видео.html Keep in touch, regards Pete 💙💯
@@PaintHQ thank you! I really liked both videos. I’m a beginner when it comes to the science and application regarding sprayers and tips but I feel like this fast forwarded my knowledge and I can make better decisions now instead of guessing. I have a question and this might be out of your wheelhouse but I’m purchasing a new sprayer for myself for light professional remodeling duty. I have experience with the Graco x5 and that works perfect for my uses. I’m wondering what your thoughts are on those Titan/wagner control max entry level sprayers. I was leaning towards them with a RAC X guard and FFLP tips. Those sprayers are only meant for their HEA tips and have a max pressure of around 1600 psi which according to your videos would be more than enough for FFLP/ LP tips. I definitely wouldn’t be going near 300 gallons a year probably closer to 100-125 gallons a year so pretty light duty compared to others. I’d just need to buy a RAC X guard and tips and the Wagner has a 7/8 thread so that shouldn’t be a problem. The price on them is a little better than Gracos and and if I’m sticking to FFLP/LO tips I wouldn’t need the higher psi of the graco
Hi mate, great video. After are chat the other day I went and brought the tri tech tips. I thought I heard that the tri tech tips have a narrower fan pattern to other makess in the same size, but looking at your tests it looks bigger! Is that just the camera or are there any difference?
Hi Richard, ah lovely, I bet you can’t wait to give them a run out.. just spray plenty of test passes on paper and work up the pressure increments.. they’re not low pressure, so will take a bit extra to fill out the tails / edges.. that’s what happened in what you’re referring to.. the pattern was much more solid and even across the full width, what can be referred as a ‘letter box’ fan.. in this example the Graco and Wagner were a bit narrower looking, still 4” in width.. it does all depend on the material being sprayed, pigment and heat/viscosity all affecting the result.. I’m sure you’ll have success, let me know how you get on 👍 regards Pete
Thanks Pete for another informative video, i was surprised by the great difference in pressure needed for the different brands to which i have all, so i will make a mental note that the tritech's need the higher pressure or size up. I was surprised you choose 100 mesh i think i would have automatically gone 150-200 on the finest material, its good to have a play round (but all the clean up!) Your equipment is spotless how do you keep your machine/gun so fresh? Finally pete i've just swapped my work lamp(same as yours) for the Festool syslite, its really night and day, you can place the festool in one part of the room and it will fully illuminate the whole room in a white light with no need to move it around or point the light at the area of work. Keep up the great content!
Thank you very much for watching and your kind words.. you’re right about the filter choice, I would possibly of gone finer if I had one 😆👍 ..Regarding cleaning the equipment, I do try and keep on top of it.. wiping over with trade wipes and occasionally using the Wagner TipClean solution on a cloth to get rid of stubborn paint splashes.. ..Really appreciate your insight into the Festool Syslite, I’ve heard excellent feedback from others saying the same as you.. it would certainly benefit me with needing the best possible light to film footage 😆 Great to hear from you my friend, really appreciate your continued support.. regards Pete 🙏
Reviewing this video Pete, i see that the smaller tips will need to have a higher PSI than i thought as i like to spray with Zinsser products such as the new BIN Aqua and Allcoat Gloss.
Yes my friend.. typically smaller orifice tips .008 and .006 tips require a little more pressure to push the material through and atomise 👍 Regards Pete
Hi there great informative video! I wonder if you can advise on which tip would be best for me. I have a wagner control pro 350m and have only done walls and ceilings so far with the 517 tip included with the machine. I am now looking to spray all the skirting, architrave and door frame with a water based wood work paint. Would the 208 or the 210 fine tip be a better option considering its water based, and also would you advise thinning and if so by how much? Kind regards
Hello my friend, really appreciate you watching and your feedback.. this video might help with watching to use fine finish tips with your ControlPro unit.. Wagner 250M Setup. Airless Spray Tips Explained. Wagner 250M Cleaning ruclips.net/video/8APgip0-5J8/видео.html Take a look.. happy to help and advise further to get you up and running 🙏 regards Pete
Thanks for getting back to me Pete, I have watched your video, again very informative. What paint were you using? I'm assuming it's oil based? Would I run into any trouble with the smaller 208 fine finish tip when using a water based wood paint? Would you recommend thinning the paint or would I be better off with a 210 fine finish tip? Kind regards
Good comparison spray tips pete I never used wagner spray tip before but I like graco fflp tips wen I spray kitchen cabinets carcass on site for less over spray special wen I spray lacquer and on opens areas I prefer tritech ultra fine finish tips for cabinets doors great video brother
Hey bro, great feedback.. quick question, with your knowledge of refinishing and spraying kitchens / doors / onsite cabinetry.. is there a link to / or do you know Dennis Rodriguez?.. I watch Eric Reason, and came across Dennis Rodriguez. Very inspirational, knowledgeable people.. I admire the refinishing world in the US 👏👏👏👌 ..always great to hear from you brother, appreciate you supporting the channel.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ actually Eric reason and Dennis rodriguez is the two guys I follow to get information about kitchen cabinets refinishing those guys have a lot experience on kitchen cabinets refinishing and they do manny experiments with different under coats and to coats to help people choices the best finish on cabinets
Hi Pete, hope you are well, another great video mate. Which tips do you like spraying with most brand wise? Also, would you tend to thin your paint more to spray at lower psi or keep the paints consistency and spray at higher psi? Sorry if it's a dopey question.
Hey Gareth, that’s a very good question.. I never normally thin trim / woodwork paints.. nor would I overly up the pressure, I did that in the video for demonstration purposes.. first thing, and this is the general rule.. after steadily upping the pressure, if tails remain and pressure is now on the higher side.. go up a tip size.. so from a .008 to a .010.. only then if tails remain, I’d add a splash of water.. but it could now be a case the material doesn’t cope with spraying.. hope that makes sense my friend.. as for which manufacturer is better, now I’m not sitting on the fence, I genuinely believe they all have qualities to offer and a lot comes down to what you’re spraying and how that product behaves.. in essence that’s what I wanted to demonstrate in the video.. I often spray with Graco FFLP tips, but on this occasion the TriTech Ultra atomised the paint beautifully (although a higher pressure, but they’re not low pressure tips).. the Ultra lay down a good coat of AkzoNobel.. now in my opinion, you could be spraying the ‘best’ product in the world.. if you don’t lay on the optimal coat, the finish whilst won’t be total disaster.. it won’t look and feel as mind blowing as it could.. sorry for the essay 🙈 hope that all makes sense.. great to hear from you, hope to meet up soon.. regards Pete
I don't mind reading an essay Pete, thanks for the explanation. I've mainly been using my gxff21 for ceilings but hoping this week to do a decent amount of woodwork for the first time as this job allows me to have a play if you know what I mean. I'll be spraying some BM High hiding primer then some scuff x eggshell. Really looking forward to this job to have a good play. Hopefully we'll meet up in Manchester mate, did you find some accommodation?
Ah you’ll do great on that job, let me know how it goes.. not overly looked at hotels yet, I’m thinking city centre with me heading up on the train.. yeah it’ll be great to meet up, I’ll get you a coffee my friend 👌👍
Wagner trade tips the best in my opinion ,same as you run em at 14/500 not a fan of the others tritech all ways seems a bit heavy textured even though acrylic flats out , just visual Wagner yellow tips are great to Keep up the vids mate
Hey David, that’s great to hear.. I have heard others say good things about Wagner Trade tips 👏👏👏 ..Thanks David, hope you’re keeping well 💯 ..regards Pete
Hey pete thanks for sharing,what's your favourite tip out of those 3?the tritech seemed to give the finest finish but at a higher pressure,is this more likely to wear the tip out and does this mean the graco ff is better or longer lasting tip as it needs less pressure to atomise it,have you seen the new graco gxff cordless?is it worth buying over the 240 volt one I wonder,it would be great if they could send it to you for a full review and demo
Personally I’d opt for the the FFLP as it’s less work on the pump, thus better longevity for the tip and pump. The GX21 cordless looks great for the money! Not only do you get a fast charger and 2 batteries but, you also get the contractor pc compact gun too. Couple that with the extra hoses etc it’s a good deal
Hi Edmond, hope you’re well.. you’re right the TriTech Ultra with it’s double orifice atomisation does give a slightly finer pattern over the Graco FFLP.. but does take more pressure to achieve that.. don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of Graco FFLP tips, achieving equally awesome results.. I was just wanting to showcase that different tip manufacturers respond differently and that naturally is influenced by the material being sprayed.. the TriTech tips pride themselves on quality and hardness of the tungsten carbide used in manufacturing.. some sprayers say the TriTech Ultras take a bit of ‘wearing in’ to a achieve optimal results 👍 ..you’re right though, there are other factors but generally speaking the higher pressure would cause more tip wear and the pump would work harder to maintain pressure.. The new addition to the Graco Cordless range, the GXFF Cordless is a genius design and in my opinion the perfect cordless option Vs the previous GX21 and 390 cordless models.. nice touch too that the GXFF Cordless comes with the Graco Contractor PC Compact gun 👌👏👏👏👍 ..Great to hear from you Edmond.. regards Pete
Great question.. I don't thin woodwork / trim paints.. I'll only perhaps thin emulsion / latex / wall and ceiling paint, just to ease and lower the pressure.. in that case, I thin a maximum 10%.. sorry for my delayed reply, I will always get back to you my friend.. regards Pete
Hi Pete, wagner ff and tritech uff tips demonstrated here aren't classed low pressure like graco fflp, right? How does wagner HEA compare to those tips, could it be used in spraying joinery/trim and could nice finish be achieved with hea? I mean with decent pump like sf23 plus hea, not 250/350 class. Thanks.
Hello my friend.. you’re spot on, only Graco FF LP are Low Pressure in the fine finish category or tips.. the Wagner HEA performs very well in terms of low pressure, but I’d only use for emulsions, the atomisation / droplet is quite course.. which I guess is a trade off when keeping pressure low.. plus I think the HEA only go as low as .011 in orifice size, which would work with higher viscosity trim paints, and if you knew the product would ‘level out’ you could get a result 👍 ..great question buddy, hope I was able to help.. regards Pete
Hi Pete, great video. Got a question. I've sprayed dulux quick dry satin wood and dulux diamond satin wood. I watered down 10% as per data sheet. Spraying doors and trim with a graco fflp 210. I always find it's really hard not to get runs in the paint somewhere on the job. I've tried moving the gun quicker and I'm definitely 10-12 " away when spraying, but still seems to be runs somewhere. Particularly on doors and door frames/arcs where you may have overlapping passes. I was thinking would a 208 or 206 be better as less paint and more control? Or will this spray unwatered down and it's too thin and runny with 10% water added? Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
Hi Ben, thanks for watching my friend... I wouldn’t thin the paints, the 10% could be referring to HVLP / airspray.. with airless I don’t (typically) thin woodwork / trim paints.. The dulux range will most likely be thixotropic / a material that can equally be brushed / rolled.. you’re spot on with a .010 tip selection 👍 I’d first try not thinning, next going to a 310, this would spread the same flow over a wider area, resulting in a thinner coating.. but I suspect not adding water will ‘cure’ your problem 😆 ..a FF LP 208 could work with the dulux paint, it’s hard to say.. you may have to up the pressure to eliminate tails, plus you could get tip blockages.. Hope this helps, keep in touch and let me know how you get on.. regards Pete
@ben wilkinson Hi I've had exactly the same problem with dulux trade quick dry satinwood. I use gx21 with 210 tip to paint some window frames and always get runs even when I try and move faster than normal. Fine on horizontal surfaces but vertical surfaces are challenging. Have you managed to find a solution? I just bought a 208 fflp tip thinking less paint would be sprayed hopefully resulting in a thinner coating and therefore less chance of runs. Tks
@@ohmz55hi mate how did you get on with spraying with the 208 with dulux quick dry Satinwood?? Also when you were getting the runs did you water down 10%? I've not done any painting for ages, but I've got a full house to do so I will let you know how I get on.
Helo watching you from Norway loks good im a pro painter too so i have ultra finish 310 and i want to order 208 o 210 same ultra finish i have 209 standard so for painting trims frames from doors ...i think 210 should be fine tk paint kitchens cabinets what diference 208 210 what you will choose one of them in my opinion 210 should be fine and whats diference 208 210 ?😊
Great to hear from you in Norway 🇳🇴💙 ..do you know my friend Victor Orrego (malermester_orrego).. good question about tip sizes.. for spraying most, ‘off the shelf’ paints that are thixotropic (can also be brushed and rolled).. a .010 will suit, so a 210 or 310.. a 310 will distribute paint over a wider fan, whereas a 210 could result in a heavier coat and be susceptible to runs in verticals.. Vs a .008 tip, much less fluid flow, suitable for low viscosity coatings (these are very thin, free flowing, usually spray only paints).. hope this helps my friend, keep in touch.. great to have your contribution on the PaintHQ channel.. 🇳🇴💙 ..regards Pete
I've just tried using a 310 fflp tip with some joncryl acrylic primer. I didn't thin and nomatter what pressure on the Gx21 I sprayed at, it kept clogging. I Thinned it with 5% water and it still did the same thing. How thin does it need to be to run in a 310 tip? Should I run a 311 or 312 tip instead. I see so many people painting trim with the 310 fflp, surely they must be using acrylic water based paints too and it doesn't seem they have issue?!
Hello my friend, sorry to hear you’re having trouble.. you’re right to choose a .010 such as a 310.. that size tip should spray most trim / woodwork paints (unthinned).. a 310 is used for paints that can also be used with a brush / roller.. I fear Johnstones Joncryl Acrylic Primer is one of very very few paints that doesn’t spray well, I’ve had others say the same as you m, that the tip blocks 😞..you’re right not to thin, I don’t look to thin trim / woodwork paints with airless spraying.. with the right tip selection and pressure, you’re usually good to go.. you’ve done everything right.. it’s just problematic paint, like I say you’re not alone… I can only suggest that the data sheet might offer a tip selection.. whilst I don’t usually go off whet the data sheet says, as in my opinion the suggested tip is too big (in my experience).. it could be worth a try.. or maybe it doesn’t recommend airless spraying 🤔 ..let me know how you get on.. regards Pete
I use a lot of the products below for day to day internal woodwork, then WP198 on anything that needs ‘stain blocking’ .. they are low viscosity, waterborne industrial 1K products.. spray very easily, no thinning at very low pressure ..being low viscosity, I use .008 tips.. so a 208 / 308... Also the new Graco FF LP 106 is awesome on spindles Here’s the products - AkzoNobel WP198 holmanpaints.co.uk/exterior-wood/286-sikkens-rubbol-wp198-high-build-stain-blocking-primer.html it’s actually a Sikkens product (exterior), has great stain / tannin blocking properties.. takes a little longer to dry Vs ..WP136 which is my go to high build primer for white woods / pine / mdf - excellent on mdf with its edge sealing properties.. WP136 Water Based Primer / Edge Sealer holmanpaints.co.uk/interior-wood/171-akzo-nobel-WP136-highbuild-waterbased-primer-edge-sealer.html For the satin topcoat.. AkzoNobel Aqualit (Supercryl) Waterborne Enamel Topcoat holmanpaints.co.uk/interior-wood/169-akzo-nobel-aqualit-waterborne-enamel-topcoat.html You get a beautiful cabinet like satin finish ..and very cost effective, especially in 5 litre cans.. Comes in white, then if needing tinting both primer and top coat can be colour matched off any colour chart.. I’ve used Holmans for years, the Holmans team are all super helpful.. Can be delivered next day if required.. If this helps at all, Holmans have a 5% discount code, across all their range, if you place your order online.. 👉 Code PAINTHQ Keep in touch my friend.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ thank you! As I've got 3 tubs of joncryl I'm determined to get this to work (hopefully). I also have some technos aqua40. So today I tried to spray the aqua40. Setup a 310 tip. Didn't water down at all, tried to spray and it blocked immediately! They say use a 0.11 to 0.13 tip, and going by your recommendation that they are usually oversized by manufacturers I thought the 0.10 would work. Tried to thin it down with 5%, still blocked at no matter what pressure. 10% worked better but would often block out of nowhere... I must be doing something wrong. The technos aqua40, have you ever sprayed it or similar, it's a an alkyd eurethane paint... What setup did you have if yes? Also what gun filter would be best for this and joncryl... I was running with a blue in the gx21, maybe it's too fine?
ottima domanda amico mio .. sì, il 208 è perfetto per lo smalto a base d'acqua a bassa viscosità (sottile / a flusso libero) 👍 ..Hai un ottimo spruzzatore airless 👍 ..rimani in contatto, sono felice di aiutarti se posso. .saluti Pete
Great video again Pete, always a great debate regarding tips etc. Hope you don't mind me asking.....what product were you putting through tips on this vid mate?
Hi Matt, thank you very much buddy.. Yeah I’m happy to share what products I’m spraying.. the low viscosity material that sprayed easily through the 208’s - just varying pressures.. is AkzoNobel Aqualit (Supercryl) Waterborne Enamel Topcoat holmanpaints.co.uk/interior-wood/169-akzo-nobel-aqualit-waterborne-enamel-topcoat.html ..you get a beautiful cabinet like satin finish ..and cost effective, especially in 5 litre cans.. if you’re ever interested in trying it out.. I’ve setup a discount code with Holmans (works with all purchases).. details are in the video description.. Hope this is helpful 👍 appreciate your continue support my friend.. regards Pete
Hey buddy.. good question.. I like to spray low viscosity ‘manufacturer’ coatings, so being very thin / free flowing, a .008 tip is perfect.. if I was spraying a thicker ‘decorative’ coating, so a product that could equally be brushed / rolled, then I’d use a .010 👍 ..hope this helps explain my friend.. regards Pete
Hi Pete, i followed youre advice. I am spraying a 5 bed house all woodwork with 11 doors and staircase. On your advice I bought some Akzo Nobel Enamel top coat spraying with a 308 tip on the Graco GX21Df. Wow this is really a game changer and i think could help a lot of others. I think trying to spray dulux satin wood with a 10 tip size is really tricky as it puts out too much paint too fast for a beginner- no one says this and you will get runs. With 08 tip size theres so much control and time to react. No runs worth mentioning. I am going down to a 106 tip for stair spindles. Its worth noting to people that the gun that comes with the GX21df does not take a 200 mesh filter so you need to get a compact or other gun that will take a 200 mesh filter for the 06 tips. That paint shop Holmans paints is brilliant. Thanks. Can you spray the primer that is Akzo Nobel with 08 tips? Is this what you use with the top coat as part of a system?. I got some Armstead primer undercoat and I have had to use my 517 with it, a 210 and 212 kept blocking no matter how much i watered down. I guess its the particle size of the paint. I only used it because it was cheap. Bad decision. Also i strained my paint on your advice too. Its amazing the stuff it filters out you dont see in the paint. Anyway just wanted to say many thanks your advice has been a game changer. There isnt much advice out there on exact paints to use with what tips etc so thankyou. Also it might be worth doing a video about all the different paints you use and what tip sizes. There is tons of paints im sure you use that no one has ever heard of available from Holmans. You just dont get specialist paints down at Brewers and they cant advise on spraying ive found, even though they sell the gear.
Hey Ben, thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience.. I’ll try and cover your points, apologies if I miss something.. it’s not critical to use a 200 mesh, I very often use a 100 mesh (I’m my QuickShot for example) with a FFLP 106 with little to non tip blockages (max tip in an UQS is .008 so there’s other things to be aware of).. so yeah, try the 100 mesh, I’m sure you’ll be fine.. Yeah the AkzoNobel primer is awesome, sprays beautifully with .008 and .006 tips, just up the pressure by an additional 100 psi ..my recommendation is to spray lighter coats with the primer (it dries quicker) - and denib any grain raise between coats… it’s a high build, mdf edge sealer. it will even stick and seal any niggles / residues of old paint peeling 👍 the primer is formally what I call WP136, I believe the code is changed, but it’s the only AkzoNobel primer / edge sealer on the Holmans website.. there’s a PaintHQ discount code, just enter PAINTHQ on the website at checkout 👍 just quickly, there’s another AkzoNobel / Sikkens product that’s WB and great at stain blocking - blocks tannins in oak / hardwood.. I believe it’s still called WP198, like I say it’s great, just takes a little longer to dry.. keep in touch my friend, it’s great to get your feedback.. regards Pete.. Ps I plan to do videos covering tip selection etc along with other tips and tricks that would help 💙💯
Good question my friend.. it’s a relatively cheap masking paper, 30cm (12”) in width that fits on a hand masker, allowing masking tape to be applied along with the paper.. or you can use a pre-taped paper, such as this.. www.amazon.co.uk/Kip-Pre-Taped-Material-Surface-Protection/dp/B09HV9SHQ9/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=Kip&qid=1672607916&sr=8-6 Hope this helps my friend.. regards Pete
Hey Moh, do you mean oil / solvent based (gloss).. yeah sure, just ensure the equipment is able to handle solvent and it’s electrically grounded.. then it’s just a case of using the appropriate cleaner to flush out afterwards.. hope this helps, happy to try and answer any questions if I can.. regards Pete 🎨💯
Hi Moh, I’m fortunate to own 2 ‘flagship’ guns, the Graco Contractor PC Compact and a TriTech T380 that I’m using in this video.. Both are 2 finger guns, that’s my preferred configuration (over 4 finger), very popular amongst sprayers.. The TriTech T380 is a well crafted, solid gun, a more weighted feel ..You can feel the quality in the hand, and I can see why, it’s a great piece of engineered aluminium alloy 👌👏👍 ..it’s built to withstand higher pressures if needed, whilst maintaining a positive shutoff.. The Graco Contractor PC, especially the compact.. is a genius innovative design, the way the shorter handle sits comfortably in your hand.. the Graco Contractor PC Compact coupled with a 1/8” whip is so manoeuvrable 💯 ..perfect for spraying tight spaces, such as cabinetry.. If you get chance, have a feel of both, try the trigger pull and see whet you prefer, and what suits your main spray applications.. Hope this helps my friend, let me know what you decide 😆 keep in touch.. regards Pete
Thank you my friend.. appreciate the feedback 🙏 my later videos have evolved into narration, you might like this one that’s a similar explanation about tip sizes.. EXPLAINED Graco FFLP 106 and FFLP 108. Paint Viscosity and Airless Spray Tips ruclips.net/video/02ThdxmVOLw/видео.html
Hey, great question.. it will if you use the TradeTip 3 Tip Guard.. this video explains that topic and what you need to do 👍 Wagner 250M Setup. Airless Spray Tips Explained. Wagner 250M Cleaning ruclips.net/video/8APgip0-5J8/видео.html Hope this helps my friend.. Subscribe and keep in touch 🙏 ..regards Pete
Odly enough the last 2 jobs I’ve done i used the 208 FFLP tips on. First job was using hapftprimer and it sprayed bloody marvellous @900 psi. This week same tip but spraying zinsser 123! I wouldn’t normally use zinsser because I know from past experience they don’t spray too well. I hadn’t planned things out too well, at a pinch I had to buy the 123! and never again. I couldn’t get it to spray too well even though I’d eased it by 20% and @1500 psi.
Hey James, yeah you’re experience perfectly sums up what can happen.. I still keep a spreadsheet on my phone, something I’ve done from the start, I note different tips / pressures and the products I’m spraying.. useful if you’re looking to spray something new.. always a pleasure buddy.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ good morning Pete. Yup that’s exactly why it’s worth knowing these things tbh. The tritech tip seemed to give a better fan and slightly better finish than the FFLP but, for me, I think I’ll stick with the FFLP tips on woodwork as I’m genuinely spraying at lower pressure and saving the piston on the GXFF. Next time I’ll make sure I’m more prepared and, have the paint I’d rather use than spraying zinsser! Every time I’ve sprayed it ( 123 and 123 + ) it’s given me nothing but trouble. I’ll give the axonobel one a try at some time.
It’s not actually that bad buddy, the masking process gets quicker with practice, especially using a Hand Masker.. you make up time when you get spraying, takes minutes to whip round a room.. then the finish you achieve Vs brush / roller is mind blowing.. you don’t get tired of the positive comments you receive from customers 😆 ..as for the cleanup, again you do quicken up the process with practice.. I much prefer cleaning out a sprayer Vs cleaning up brushes / rollers / scuttles and trays etc 🙈 ..thanks for your input my friend, much appreciated.. regards Pete
Needlessly artsy and couldn’t get through it with all the fades, thumping music and jumps. Wanted to know about spray tips not your video editing skills.
Hmm not sure I’ve ever painted that fast 🎨💨 🤔 ..you certainly wouldn’t get the level of finish, spraying a manufacturer finish such as AkzoNobel, where you can achieve a cabinet like result on internal joinery 👌 ..appreciate your input 👍
What fine finish airless tips are you a fan of using?.. Graco FFLP, Wagner Fine Finish or TriTech Ultra Fine Finish.. Always good to hear about your experience and get your opinion.. regards Pete
I’m sticking with the FFLP tips for woodwork but, I may try some others in the near distant future 👍🏻
I like the graco ff tip,I haven't used the others but I found the finish really excellent with graco ff 208 on kitchen doors
208 ..If the viscosity is thin enough to atomise at a lower / reasonable pressure ..Then 210 for thicker / decorative coatings (by decorative, I mean a product that could be brush / rolled as well as spray).. 210 / 310 is typically used in spraying woodwork / trim paints 👍
Thanks Edmond, appreciate your feedback 👏👏👏
Hi, very good experiencies with Graco FFLP.
Hi Pete, a very useful reference guide to the need to vary pressures depended on the tip - evidently not all tips are created equal! Many thanks for posting and best wishes, Rob
Hey Rob, appreciate your feedback, you’re spot on my friend.. hope you’re continuing to have spraying success 🙏 ..all the very best.. regards Pete
Hello Pete, as always very good your contribution.
I congratulate you for being so dedicated to share your experiences.
Best regards my friend.
Hey Enrique, you’re so kind 😊 ..I value your continued support 🙏
What a great video. Please consider talking- I'd listen to you share your thoughts about this stuff for hours. Thanks for taking the time to compare everything & having the courtesy and generosity to share with everyone. I'm going to check the rest of your channel👍
Thank you for your kind feedback.. My later videos include me speaking, it was another step towards being able to deliver as much information as possible.. really appreciate you watching and your support.. keep in touch.. regards Pete 💙💯
I would say the graco tip is the best purely for lower pressure and over spray especially if it in a occupied house on site it doesn't really matter I have used a 208 on spindles and hand rail the only issue I had was the tip stopping but that was my fault for not straining and letting the paint down a touch but overall they are great tips
Thanks your your input and feedback John 🙏
Great video Pete! I was following it avidly and was disappointed when it finished😂. It’s a good production when you’re left wanting more.
Thank you Paul, that’s so very kind of you to say 🙏 ..all the best ..Pete
Info in this video is exceptional Pete The variables in spraying with pressure tip size and product can be quite stark low viscosity products are much more beneficial for spraying and the Akzo Noble is now my go to and thanks to you and all the support you have given me now means I can start to use all my Ultra tips now rather than having them melted down to build a tank. 😂
Haha 😂 ..You’re a diamond my friend.. I appreciate all the kind words of support you’ve given ..I’ll give you a bell in the week ☎️👌
Hi Pete, yet another great informative video again. Thank you so much for sharing. Hope you’re well.👍
You’re a diamond Allan 🙏 ..Yeah I’m well thank you, hope you are too and having continued success spraying 👍
Thanks for sharing Pete. Again really useful info
You’re very welcome Jonny, thanks fir the support 🙏 ..regards Pete
Hi Pete.
Well I've only gone & bought the hopper for shirley, Lovit..
Hi Les, yeah I do rate using a hopper 👏👏👏 ..Remind me which pump are you using?..
Oh, told you I would give flat tips a run out 😆 ..although not quite what you had in mind 🙈 ..It’s the Durr AAA gun..
ruclips.net/video/Ep47YYghgq0/видео.html
..Seriously though, they are on my list to use, I appreciate your input and contribution on the channel 🙏 ..Take care my friend, speak to you soon.. regards Pete
This is a great video and one I was searching for for a while. I had to keep scrolling to find. I knew there had to be a video of someone comparing and helps us when buying tips. Do I need to spend money for the RAC X guard and FFLP tips or could I use titans SC-6 for a similar finish, this video helps narrow down the choices. Thank you
Thank you so much for watching and your kind feedback 💙 I’d go with Graco FF LP tips for the low pressure advantage.. Maybe this more recent video helps - I go more in detail, spraying various fine finish materials, and demonstrating dialling in the pressure..
Airless Spray Tips. A Complete Tutorial to Choosing the RIGHT TIP SIZE
ruclips.net/video/XNser2vbSiE/видео.html
Keep in touch, regards Pete 💙💯
@@PaintHQ thank you! I really liked both videos. I’m a beginner when it comes to the science and application regarding sprayers and tips but I feel like this fast forwarded my knowledge and I can make better decisions now instead of guessing.
I have a question and this might be out of your wheelhouse but I’m purchasing a new sprayer for myself for light professional remodeling duty. I have experience with the Graco x5 and that works perfect for my uses. I’m wondering what your thoughts are on those Titan/wagner control max entry level sprayers. I was leaning towards them with a RAC X guard and FFLP tips.
Those sprayers are only meant for their HEA tips and have a max pressure of around 1600 psi which according to your videos would be more than enough for FFLP/ LP tips. I definitely wouldn’t be going near 300 gallons a year probably closer to 100-125 gallons a year so pretty light duty compared to others. I’d just need to buy a RAC X guard and tips and the Wagner has a 7/8 thread so that shouldn’t be a problem. The price on them is a little better than Gracos and and if I’m sticking to FFLP/LO tips I wouldn’t need the higher psi of the graco
good test and cool music. graco is king
Thank you Kevin, appreciate the support my friend 🙏
Hi mate, great video. After are chat the other day I went and brought the tri tech tips. I thought I heard that the tri tech tips have a narrower fan pattern to other makess in the same size, but looking at your tests it looks bigger! Is that just the camera or are there any difference?
I noticed that exactly. It seemed as though tritech gives a much wider fan? Possibly due to the higher pressure?
Hi Richard, ah lovely, I bet you can’t wait to give them a run out.. just spray plenty of test passes on paper and work up the pressure increments.. they’re not low pressure, so will take a bit extra to fill out the tails / edges.. that’s what happened in what you’re referring to.. the pattern was much more solid and even across the full width, what can be referred as a ‘letter box’ fan.. in this example the Graco and Wagner were a bit narrower looking, still 4” in width.. it does all depend on the material being sprayed, pigment and heat/viscosity all affecting the result.. I’m sure you’ll have success, let me know how you get on 👍 regards Pete
@@PaintHQ yeah I’m like a child at Xmas waiting for them lol. Cheers for the info and I’ll keep you posted on my thoughts on them 👍
You’re welcome anytime.. regards Pete
useful info, answered a lot of my questions, thanks!
You’re very welcome my friend.. feel free to reach out anytime and I’ll always do my very best to help.. regards Pete
Thanks Pete for another informative video, i was surprised by the great difference in pressure needed for the different brands to which i have all, so i will make a mental note that the tritech's need the higher pressure or size up.
I was surprised you choose 100 mesh i think i would have automatically gone 150-200 on the finest material, its good to have a play round (but all the clean up!) Your equipment is spotless how do you keep your machine/gun so fresh?
Finally pete i've just swapped my work lamp(same as yours) for the Festool syslite, its really night and day, you can place the festool in one part of the room and it will fully illuminate the whole room in a white light with no need to move it around or point the light at the area of work.
Keep up the great content!
Thank you very much for watching and your kind words.. you’re right about the filter choice, I would possibly of gone finer if I had one 😆👍 ..Regarding cleaning the equipment, I do try and keep on top of it.. wiping over with trade wipes and occasionally using the Wagner TipClean solution on a cloth to get rid of stubborn paint splashes..
..Really appreciate your insight into the Festool Syslite, I’ve heard excellent feedback from others saying the same as you.. it would certainly benefit me with needing the best possible light to film footage 😆
Great to hear from you my friend, really appreciate your continued support.. regards Pete 🙏
Reviewing this video Pete, i see that the smaller tips will need to have a higher PSI than i thought as i like to spray with Zinsser products such as the new BIN Aqua and Allcoat Gloss.
Yes my friend.. typically smaller orifice tips .008 and .006 tips require a little more pressure to push the material through and atomise 👍 Regards Pete
Hi there great informative video! I wonder if you can advise on which tip would be best for me. I have a wagner control pro 350m and have only done walls and ceilings so far with the 517 tip included with the machine. I am now looking to spray all the skirting, architrave and door frame with a water based wood work paint. Would the 208 or the 210 fine tip be a better option considering its water based, and also would you advise thinning and if so by how much? Kind regards
Hello my friend, really appreciate you watching and your feedback.. this video might help with watching to use fine finish tips with your ControlPro unit..
Wagner 250M Setup. Airless Spray Tips Explained. Wagner 250M Cleaning
ruclips.net/video/8APgip0-5J8/видео.html
Take a look.. happy to help and advise further to get you up and running 🙏 regards Pete
Thanks for getting back to me Pete, I have watched your video, again very informative. What paint were you using? I'm assuming it's oil based? Would I run into any trouble with the smaller 208 fine finish tip when using a water based wood paint? Would you recommend thinning the paint or would I be better off with a 210 fine finish tip? Kind regards
Good comparison spray tips pete I never used wagner spray tip before but I like graco fflp tips wen I spray kitchen cabinets carcass on site for less over spray special wen I spray lacquer and on opens areas I prefer tritech ultra fine finish tips for cabinets doors great video brother
Hey bro, great feedback.. quick question, with your knowledge of refinishing and spraying kitchens / doors / onsite cabinetry.. is there a link to / or do you know Dennis Rodriguez?.. I watch Eric Reason, and came across Dennis Rodriguez. Very inspirational, knowledgeable people.. I admire the refinishing world in the US 👏👏👏👌 ..always great to hear from you brother, appreciate you supporting the channel.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ actually Eric reason and Dennis rodriguez is the two guys I follow to get information about kitchen cabinets refinishing those guys have a lot experience on kitchen cabinets refinishing and they do manny experiments with different under coats and to coats to help people choices the best finish on cabinets
Ah that’s so cool Lauro 🙏
Hi Pete, hope you are well, another great video mate. Which tips do you like spraying with most brand wise? Also, would you tend to thin your paint more to spray at lower psi or keep the paints consistency and spray at higher psi? Sorry if it's a dopey question.
Hey Gareth, that’s a very good question.. I never normally thin trim / woodwork paints.. nor would I overly up the pressure, I did that in the video for demonstration purposes.. first thing, and this is the general rule.. after steadily upping the pressure, if tails remain and pressure is now on the higher side.. go up a tip size.. so from a .008 to a .010.. only then if tails remain, I’d add a splash of water.. but it could now be a case the material doesn’t cope with spraying.. hope that makes sense my friend.. as for which manufacturer is better, now I’m not sitting on the fence, I genuinely believe they all have qualities to offer and a lot comes down to what you’re spraying and how that product behaves.. in essence that’s what I wanted to demonstrate in the video.. I often spray with Graco FFLP tips, but on this occasion the TriTech Ultra atomised the paint beautifully (although a higher pressure, but they’re not low pressure tips).. the Ultra lay down a good coat of AkzoNobel.. now in my opinion, you could be spraying the ‘best’ product in the world.. if you don’t lay on the optimal coat, the finish whilst won’t be total disaster.. it won’t look and feel as mind blowing as it could.. sorry for the essay 🙈 hope that all makes sense.. great to hear from you, hope to meet up soon.. regards Pete
I don't mind reading an essay Pete, thanks for the explanation. I've mainly been using my gxff21 for ceilings but hoping this week to do a decent amount of woodwork for the first time as this job allows me to have a play if you know what I mean. I'll be spraying some BM High hiding primer then some scuff x eggshell. Really looking forward to this job to have a good play. Hopefully we'll meet up in Manchester mate, did you find some accommodation?
Ah you’ll do great on that job, let me know how it goes.. not overly looked at hotels yet, I’m thinking city centre with me heading up on the train.. yeah it’ll be great to meet up, I’ll get you a coffee my friend 👌👍
Wagner trade tips the best in my opinion ,same as you run em at 14/500 not a fan of the others tritech all ways seems a bit heavy textured even though acrylic flats out , just visual
Wagner yellow tips are great to
Keep up the vids mate
Hey David, that’s great to hear.. I have heard others say good things about Wagner Trade tips 👏👏👏 ..Thanks David, hope you’re keeping well 💯 ..regards Pete
Hey pete thanks for sharing,what's your favourite tip out of those 3?the tritech seemed to give the finest finish but at a higher pressure,is this more likely to wear the tip out and does this mean the graco ff is better or longer lasting tip as it needs less pressure to atomise it,have you seen the new graco gxff cordless?is it worth buying over the 240 volt one I wonder,it would be great if they could send it to you for a full review and demo
Personally I’d opt for the the FFLP as it’s less work on the pump, thus better longevity for the tip and pump. The GX21 cordless looks great for the money! Not only do you get a fast charger and 2 batteries but, you also get the contractor pc compact gun too. Couple that with the extra hoses etc it’s a good deal
Hi Edmond, hope you’re well.. you’re right the TriTech Ultra with it’s double orifice atomisation does give a slightly finer pattern over the Graco FFLP.. but does take more pressure to achieve that.. don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of Graco FFLP tips, achieving equally awesome results.. I was just wanting to showcase that different tip manufacturers respond differently and that naturally is influenced by the material being sprayed.. the TriTech tips pride themselves on quality and hardness of the tungsten carbide used in manufacturing.. some sprayers say the TriTech Ultras take a bit of ‘wearing in’ to a achieve optimal results 👍 ..you’re right though, there are other factors but generally speaking the higher pressure would cause more tip wear and the pump would work harder to maintain pressure..
The new addition to the Graco Cordless range, the GXFF Cordless is a genius design and in my opinion the perfect cordless option Vs the previous GX21 and 390 cordless models.. nice touch too that the GXFF Cordless comes with the Graco Contractor PC Compact gun 👌👏👏👏👍 ..Great to hear from you Edmond.. regards Pete
Thank you my friend 👌🙏
Great info. Thanks for sharing. @@PaintHQ
Anytime 🙏💙💯
Awesome!
Thank you so much 💙💯
Did you thin the paint before spraying sir? If yes , then what did you use to thin the paint and the thin mixing percentages of it ? Thanks
Great question.. I don't thin woodwork / trim paints.. I'll only perhaps thin emulsion / latex / wall and ceiling paint, just to ease and lower the pressure.. in that case, I thin a maximum 10%.. sorry for my delayed reply, I will always get back to you my friend.. regards Pete
Hi Pete, wagner ff and tritech uff tips demonstrated here aren't classed low pressure like graco fflp, right?
How does wagner HEA compare to those tips, could it be used in spraying joinery/trim and could nice finish be achieved with hea? I mean with decent pump like sf23 plus hea, not 250/350 class.
Thanks.
Hello my friend.. you’re spot on, only Graco FF LP are Low Pressure in the fine finish category or tips.. the Wagner HEA performs very well in terms of low pressure, but I’d only use for emulsions, the atomisation / droplet is quite course.. which I guess is a trade off when keeping pressure low.. plus I think the HEA only go as low as .011 in orifice size, which would work with higher viscosity trim paints, and if you knew the product would ‘level out’ you could get a result 👍 ..great question buddy, hope I was able to help.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ thank you 👍
Excelente su video 👍 sigue adelante mi hermano 💪 👏
gracias hermano.. agradezco tus amables palabras y continuo apoyo 🙏
Hi Pete, great video. Got a question. I've sprayed dulux quick dry satin wood and dulux diamond satin wood. I watered down 10% as per data sheet. Spraying doors and trim with a graco fflp 210. I always find it's really hard not to get runs in the paint somewhere on the job. I've tried moving the gun quicker and I'm definitely 10-12 " away when spraying, but still seems to be runs somewhere. Particularly on doors and door frames/arcs where you may have overlapping passes. I was thinking would a 208 or 206 be better as less paint and more control? Or will this spray unwatered down and it's too thin and runny with 10% water added? Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
Hi Ben, thanks for watching my friend... I wouldn’t thin the paints, the 10% could be referring to HVLP / airspray.. with airless I don’t (typically) thin woodwork / trim paints.. The dulux range will most likely be thixotropic / a material that can equally be brushed / rolled.. you’re spot on with a .010 tip selection 👍 I’d first try not thinning, next going to a 310, this would spread the same flow over a wider area, resulting in a thinner coating.. but I suspect not adding water will ‘cure’ your problem 😆 ..a FF LP 208 could work with the dulux paint, it’s hard to say.. you may have to up the pressure to eliminate tails, plus you could get tip blockages..
Hope this helps, keep in touch and let me know how you get on.. regards Pete
Thanks Pete, great help and reassurance. I'll let you know how I get on mate :)
You’re very welcome, anytime 🙏
@ben wilkinson Hi I've had exactly the same problem with dulux trade quick dry satinwood. I use gx21 with 210 tip to paint some window frames and always get runs even when I try and move faster than normal. Fine on horizontal surfaces but vertical surfaces are challenging. Have you managed to find a solution? I just bought a 208 fflp tip thinking less paint would be sprayed hopefully resulting in a thinner coating and therefore less chance of runs. Tks
@@ohmz55hi mate how did you get on with spraying with the 208 with dulux quick dry Satinwood?? Also when you were getting the runs did you water down 10%? I've not done any painting for ages, but I've got a full house to do so I will let you know how I get on.
Helo watching you from Norway loks good im a pro painter too so i have ultra finish 310 and i want to order 208 o 210 same ultra finish i have 209 standard so for painting trims frames from doors ...i think 210 should be fine tk paint kitchens cabinets what diference 208 210 what you will choose one of them in my opinion 210 should be fine and whats diference 208 210 ?😊
Great to hear from you in Norway 🇳🇴💙 ..do you know my friend Victor Orrego (malermester_orrego).. good question about tip sizes.. for spraying most, ‘off the shelf’ paints that are thixotropic (can also be brushed and rolled).. a .010 will suit, so a 210 or 310.. a 310 will distribute paint over a wider fan, whereas a 210 could result in a heavier coat and be susceptible to runs in verticals.. Vs a .008 tip, much less fluid flow, suitable for low viscosity coatings (these are very thin, free flowing, usually spray only paints).. hope this helps my friend, keep in touch.. great to have your contribution on the PaintHQ channel.. 🇳🇴💙 ..regards Pete
I've just tried using a 310 fflp tip with some joncryl acrylic primer. I didn't thin and nomatter what pressure on the Gx21 I sprayed at, it kept clogging. I Thinned it with 5% water and it still did the same thing. How thin does it need to be to run in a 310 tip? Should I run a 311 or 312 tip instead. I see so many people painting trim with the 310 fflp, surely they must be using acrylic water based paints too and it doesn't seem they have issue?!
Hello my friend, sorry to hear you’re having trouble.. you’re right to choose a .010 such as a 310.. that size tip should spray most trim / woodwork paints (unthinned).. a 310 is used for paints that can also be used with a brush / roller.. I fear Johnstones Joncryl Acrylic Primer is one of very very few paints that doesn’t spray well, I’ve had others say the same as you m, that the tip blocks 😞..you’re right not to thin, I don’t look to thin trim / woodwork paints with airless spraying.. with the right tip selection and pressure, you’re usually good to go.. you’ve done everything right.. it’s just problematic paint, like I say you’re not alone… I can only suggest that the data sheet might offer a tip selection.. whilst I don’t usually go off whet the data sheet says, as in my opinion the suggested tip is too big (in my experience).. it could be worth a try.. or maybe it doesn’t recommend airless spraying 🤔 ..let me know how you get on.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ what wood primer would you recommend instead?
I use a lot of the products below for day to day internal woodwork, then WP198 on anything that needs ‘stain blocking’ .. they are low viscosity, waterborne industrial 1K products.. spray very easily, no thinning at very low pressure ..being low viscosity, I use .008 tips.. so a 208 / 308... Also the new Graco FF LP 106 is awesome on spindles
Here’s the products -
AkzoNobel WP198
holmanpaints.co.uk/exterior-wood/286-sikkens-rubbol-wp198-high-build-stain-blocking-primer.html
it’s actually a Sikkens product (exterior), has great stain / tannin blocking properties.. takes a little longer to dry Vs
..WP136 which is my go to high build primer for white woods / pine / mdf - excellent on mdf with its edge sealing properties..
WP136 Water Based Primer / Edge Sealer
holmanpaints.co.uk/interior-wood/171-akzo-nobel-WP136-highbuild-waterbased-primer-edge-sealer.html
For the satin topcoat.. AkzoNobel Aqualit (Supercryl) Waterborne Enamel Topcoat
holmanpaints.co.uk/interior-wood/169-akzo-nobel-aqualit-waterborne-enamel-topcoat.html
You get a beautiful cabinet like satin finish ..and very cost effective, especially in 5 litre cans..
Comes in white, then if needing tinting both primer and top coat can be colour matched off any colour chart..
I’ve used Holmans for years, the Holmans team are all super helpful..
Can be delivered next day if required.. If this helps at all, Holmans have a 5% discount code, across all their range, if you place your order online..
👉 Code PAINTHQ
Keep in touch my friend.. regards Pete
Thanks! Would a 211 or 311 tip be good for trim and spindles too?
@@PaintHQ thank you!
As I've got 3 tubs of joncryl I'm determined to get this to work (hopefully). I also have some technos aqua40. So today I tried to spray the aqua40. Setup a 310 tip. Didn't water down at all, tried to spray and it blocked immediately! They say use a 0.11 to 0.13 tip, and going by your recommendation that they are usually oversized by manufacturers I thought the 0.10 would work. Tried to thin it down with 5%, still blocked at no matter what pressure. 10% worked better but would often block out of nowhere... I must be doing something wrong.
The technos aqua40, have you ever sprayed it or similar, it's a an alkyd eurethane paint... What setup did you have if yes?
Also what gun filter would be best for this and joncryl... I was running with a blue in the gx21, maybe it's too fine?
Is this oil based paint your spraying with
Water based paint my friend 👌
Va bene per smalto ad acqua l'ugello 208? Grazie ho una Wagner PP90extra
ottima domanda amico mio .. sì, il 208 è perfetto per lo smalto a base d'acqua a bassa viscosità (sottile / a flusso libero) 👍 ..Hai un ottimo spruzzatore airless 👍 ..rimani in contatto, sono felice di aiutarti se posso. .saluti Pete
Great video again Pete, always a great debate regarding tips etc.
Hope you don't mind me asking.....what product were you putting through tips on this vid mate?
Hi Matt, thank you very much buddy.. Yeah I’m happy to share what products I’m spraying.. the low viscosity material that sprayed easily through the 208’s - just varying pressures.. is AkzoNobel Aqualit (Supercryl) Waterborne Enamel Topcoat
holmanpaints.co.uk/interior-wood/169-akzo-nobel-aqualit-waterborne-enamel-topcoat.html
..you get a beautiful cabinet like satin finish ..and cost effective, especially in 5 litre cans.. if you’re ever interested in trying it out.. I’ve setup a discount code with Holmans (works with all purchases).. details are in the video description.. Hope this is helpful 👍 appreciate your continue support my friend.. regards Pete
Appreciate your time as always Pete, aswell as your videos 📹 👍 😀
Hello. Can you do a Spray Test (Same Test) on the Wagner Green HEA Tips on High Pressure please about 2000psi 2500psi and 2800psi please.. Thank You
Hey Pete, do you prefer using 08’s to 10’s?
Hey buddy.. good question.. I like to spray low viscosity ‘manufacturer’ coatings, so being very thin / free flowing, a .008 tip is perfect.. if I was spraying a thicker ‘decorative’ coating, so a product that could equally be brushed / rolled, then I’d use a .010 👍 ..hope this helps explain my friend.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Brilliant, cheers Pete nice simple explanation.
You’re very welcome, anytime 🙏
Hi Pete, i followed youre advice. I am spraying a 5 bed house all woodwork with 11 doors and staircase. On your advice I bought some Akzo Nobel Enamel top coat spraying with a 308 tip on the Graco GX21Df. Wow this is really a game changer and i think could help a lot of others. I think trying to spray dulux satin wood with a 10 tip size is really tricky as it puts out too much paint too fast for a beginner- no one says this and you will get runs. With 08 tip size theres so much control and time to react. No runs worth mentioning. I am going down to a 106 tip for stair spindles.
Its worth noting to people that the gun that comes with the GX21df does not take a 200 mesh filter so you need to get a compact or other gun that will take a 200 mesh filter for the 06 tips.
That paint shop Holmans paints is brilliant. Thanks. Can you spray the primer that is Akzo Nobel with 08 tips? Is this what you use with the top coat as part of a system?. I got some Armstead primer undercoat and I have had to use my 517 with it, a 210 and 212 kept blocking no matter how much i watered down. I guess its the particle size of the paint. I only used it because it was cheap. Bad decision.
Also i strained my paint on your advice too. Its amazing the stuff it filters out you dont see in the paint.
Anyway just wanted to say many thanks your advice has been a game changer. There isnt much advice out there on exact paints to use with what tips etc so thankyou. Also it might be worth doing a video about all the different paints you use and what tip sizes. There is tons of paints im sure you use that no one has ever heard of available from Holmans. You just dont get specialist paints down at Brewers and they cant advise on spraying ive found, even though they sell the gear.
Hey Ben, thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience.. I’ll try and cover your points, apologies if I miss something.. it’s not critical to use a 200 mesh, I very often use a 100 mesh (I’m my QuickShot for example) with a FFLP 106 with little to non tip blockages (max tip in an UQS is .008 so there’s other things to be aware of).. so yeah, try the 100 mesh, I’m sure you’ll be fine.. Yeah the AkzoNobel primer is awesome, sprays beautifully with .008 and .006 tips, just up the pressure by an additional 100 psi ..my recommendation is to spray lighter coats with the primer (it dries quicker) - and denib any grain raise between coats… it’s a high build, mdf edge sealer. it will even stick and seal any niggles / residues of old paint peeling 👍 the primer is formally what I call WP136, I believe the code is changed, but it’s the only AkzoNobel primer / edge sealer on the Holmans website.. there’s a PaintHQ discount code, just enter PAINTHQ on the website at checkout 👍 just quickly, there’s another AkzoNobel / Sikkens product that’s WB and great at stain blocking - blocks tannins in oak / hardwood.. I believe it’s still called WP198, like I say it’s great, just takes a little longer to dry.. keep in touch my friend, it’s great to get your feedback.. regards Pete.. Ps I plan to do videos covering tip selection etc along with other tips and tricks that would help 💙💯
Respect ,super !
Thank you my brother 💙
Paper, what is paper ? How many gram/m - quality ? masking paper
Good question my friend.. it’s a relatively cheap masking paper, 30cm (12”) in width that fits on a hand masker, allowing masking tape to be applied along with the paper.. or you can use a pre-taped paper, such as this..
www.amazon.co.uk/Kip-Pre-Taped-Material-Surface-Protection/dp/B09HV9SHQ9/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=Kip&qid=1672607916&sr=8-6
Hope this helps my friend.. regards Pete
Can airless spray gun, spray with gloss paint
Hey Moh, do you mean oil / solvent based (gloss).. yeah sure, just ensure the equipment is able to handle solvent and it’s electrically grounded.. then it’s just a case of using the appropriate cleaner to flush out afterwards.. hope this helps, happy to try and answer any questions if I can.. regards Pete 🎨💯
Hi Paint HQ🎨 What airless spraying gun do recommend to buy... As am looking to buy one ... thanks
Hi Moh, I’m fortunate to own 2 ‘flagship’ guns, the Graco Contractor PC Compact and a TriTech T380 that I’m using in this video.. Both are 2 finger guns, that’s my preferred configuration (over 4 finger), very popular amongst sprayers..
The TriTech T380 is a well crafted, solid gun, a more weighted feel ..You can feel the quality in the hand, and I can see why, it’s a great piece of engineered aluminium alloy 👌👏👍 ..it’s built to withstand higher pressures if needed, whilst maintaining a positive shutoff..
The Graco Contractor PC, especially the compact.. is a genius innovative design, the way the shorter handle sits comfortably in your hand.. the Graco Contractor PC Compact coupled with a 1/8” whip is so manoeuvrable 💯 ..perfect for spraying tight spaces, such as cabinetry..
If you get chance, have a feel of both, try the trigger pull and see whet you prefer, and what suits your main spray applications..
Hope this helps my friend, let me know what you decide 😆 keep in touch.. regards Pete
I did like the video. A narration would be helpful as tastes in music genres might distract some watchers.
Thank you my friend.. appreciate the feedback 🙏 my later videos have evolved into narration, you might like this one that’s a similar explanation about tip sizes..
EXPLAINED Graco FFLP 106 and FFLP 108. Paint Viscosity and Airless Spray Tips
ruclips.net/video/02ThdxmVOLw/видео.html
Hi 208 Wagner dos it fit 250m ?
Hey, great question.. it will if you use the TradeTip 3 Tip Guard.. this video explains that topic and what you need to do 👍
Wagner 250M Setup. Airless Spray Tips Explained. Wagner 250M Cleaning
ruclips.net/video/8APgip0-5J8/видео.html
Hope this helps my friend.. Subscribe and keep in touch 🙏 ..regards Pete
Odly enough the last 2 jobs I’ve done i used the 208 FFLP tips on. First job was using hapftprimer and it sprayed bloody marvellous @900 psi. This week same tip but spraying zinsser 123! I wouldn’t normally use zinsser because I know from past experience they don’t spray too well. I hadn’t planned things out too well, at a pinch I had to buy the 123! and never again. I couldn’t get it to spray too well even though I’d eased it by 20% and @1500 psi.
Hey James, yeah you’re experience perfectly sums up what can happen.. I still keep a spreadsheet on my phone, something I’ve done from the start, I note different tips / pressures and the products I’m spraying.. useful if you’re looking to spray something new.. always a pleasure buddy.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ good morning Pete. Yup that’s exactly why it’s worth knowing these things tbh. The tritech tip seemed to give a better fan and slightly better finish than the FFLP but, for me, I think I’ll stick with the FFLP tips on woodwork as I’m genuinely spraying at lower pressure and saving the piston on the GXFF. Next time I’ll make sure I’m more prepared and, have the paint I’d rather use than spraying zinsser! Every time I’ve sprayed it ( 123 and 123 + ) it’s given me nothing but trouble. I’ll give the axonobel one a try at some time.
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gracias por tu aporte amigo .. sigue en contacto, saludos Pete
love the info provided but the music is louder than you are and somewhat annoying. sorry.
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The amount of time it takes you to tape up set gun up spray and clean the gun and in tape
It’s not actually that bad buddy, the masking process gets quicker with practice, especially using a Hand Masker.. you make up time when you get spraying, takes minutes to whip round a room.. then the finish you achieve Vs brush / roller is mind blowing.. you don’t get tired of the positive comments you receive from customers 😆 ..as for the cleanup, again you do quicken up the process with practice.. I much prefer cleaning out a sprayer Vs cleaning up brushes / rollers / scuttles and trays etc 🙈 ..thanks for your input my friend, much appreciated.. regards Pete
Titan leaves much smoother finish than graco
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this was hard to watch with all the damn music
Appreciate the feedback my friend 🙏😄💙💯
Needlessly artsy and couldn’t get through it with all the fades, thumping music and jumps. Wanted to know about spray tips not your video editing skills.
Thank you for the feedback, regards Pete 💙
You could of painted 2 rooms with a 3 inch brush and a 15 inch roller haha
Hmm not sure I’ve ever painted that fast 🎨💨 🤔 ..you certainly wouldn’t get the level of finish, spraying a manufacturer finish such as AkzoNobel, where you can achieve a cabinet like result on internal joinery 👌 ..appreciate your input 👍
Paper, what is paper ? How many gram/m - quality ? masking paper
30cm / 12” masking paper, such as Kip masking products 👍 happy to help and advise anytime my friend.. regards Pete
Paper, what is paper ? How many gram/m - quality ? masking paper
30cm masking paper.. check out Kip masking products, that’s what I recommend my friend 👍 regards Pete