AMD FX CPU’s in 2022...How Bad Is It?
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024
- With 2022 unpacking all kinds of new processors, Gen 5.0, graphics cards, and even DDR5, is something like AMD FX still worth it? Today we go old school and buy an AMD FX 8320, motherboard, RAM, and Combo on eBay and pair it with other time-relevant parts!
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My dad still rocking a fx 6300, 16 gb ddr3 and a 980 4 gb =) 70 years old last week and playing far cry 5, forza 4, watch dogs and ghost recon wildlands :P
Damn, not bad
Im about to build a 980 with an E3 1225
@@TonyTooone Go for it, love old stuff and you still can game on it =)
I have an fx 4300 my first build still around I got that with the GTX 970 16 GB to 1800 MHz ram I love it
Damn that’s an old GPU bro 70 years holy cow I thought mine was outdated wow
Can we appreciate the fact that DDR3 holds its own turf even after the release of DDR5(unofficially).
A 10 year old cpu is still doing a fab job!
DDR3 goes farther than it seems, and all RAM holds its own in its own way, mainly timings. I have a DDR3-2400 kit with CL10 timings that is better than a good chunk of DDR4 spec. When you also consider than RAM speed is two parts, raw bus speed and latency, when talking about latency specific things some older RAM can actually be quite allot faster. There will not be any CL10 DDR5 kits, that much is for sure haha.
Yep, I had a couple of budget builds this summer 8350 and i5-3550 and old FX performed better especially with DDR3 2100Mhz and super easy OC to 4.2Ghz (AMD Prism cooler on)
I'm a firm believer of the mantra "Do it right or never do it at all". This FX CPU video is never done right at the get go so it's a poor representation of how the FX does in 2022. The FX-8320 can do 4.5ghz easy even on the stock cooler but since you got the crappiest of AM3+ board there is ( the board has the crappiest of VRMs so overclocking is a risk) then overclocking is not possible. What are the ram sticks running at 1333mhz? It's not even mentioned. Yes, ram speed matters too especially when you started pairing it up with the 3060, that 1333mhz kit if that's what it is running will cripple the 3060 to valhalla. And speaking of ram capacity, DDR3 ram is dirt cheap nowadays and looking at the osd on your God of War run it is quiet obvious the pc is gasping for more memory and thus the crappy God of War experience can be mostly attributed to that. I thought it's standard procedure in doing CPU performance test is removing every possible limiters on other components as possible? You're limited by the board, the ram even to some extent the gpu vram (with only 2gb vram games that consumes beyond that will be forced to eat more system ram which already lacking in the first place what would you expect will happen?). With everything said, I know the FX is even barely decent in todays standards but at least give it the chance to do its job and that is by getting the right components so if ever the game performance sucks we can surely attribute it to the cpu performance and not hypothesizing that it could be something else (showing vram usage on the OSD would have also help immensely in how we assess overall performance especially on the Halo run). So yeah, do it right or never do it at all.
Definitely wasn't a good build - build with crap and that's what you can expect ...
Yep. Pretty sure my 8350 on the Fatal1ty Pro (990fx) with the 4gb rx570 ran a fair bit better than that. I have 16gb of the second fastest ram that board supported (the fastest was beyond stupid expensive when I built it, almost twice as much
Well said Retro. I still run an FX-8350 overclocked to 4.725 mhz - 32 gb of 1866 mhz ram and an RX 580 8 gb. it rocks everything i throw at it. Ten Thumbs up!!!! Absolutely a terrible representation of what an FX 83XX is capable of.... Why do all the tech channels blast the FX so much?
Small self adhesive heatsinks can be fitted to all the VRM devices and inductors.
Bags of 20 are reasonable.
Agreed fully
I still got the FX6300 with an artic freezer air cooler, 16GB RAM, MSI SLI Krait board, a 1650 Ventus OC. Definitely got my money's worth over the years. These things are from 2012-2014 (except the GPU ofc).
The FX-8000 series CPUs are the most underrated in history. I bought an FX-8350 in 2012 for $170CAD brand-new at Tiger Direct and it came with a Wraith cooler. That cooler is essentially the same as the Wraith Prism on my R7-5700X but without the RGB. The fact that AMD paired the Wraith Prism with the R9-3900X just goes to show how good that Wraith design was.
I knew that as time went on, the 8 physical cores would age well and the FX would be a good gaming CPU in the future. True, it was slower than the i5-2500K in gaming but it was also literally half the price and was certainly good enough that I never had any issues gaming with it. This CPU just played whatever I threw at it and all games were fine. Truth be told, I initially wanted an FX-6300 but Tiger Direct had a sale that made the 8350 only like $30 more and they screwed up on the discount and gave me an extra $10 off so I couldn't say no to that. If Canada Computers didn't have an open-box R7-1700 for only $40 more than the R5-1600X, I probably would have used to the FX-8350 for another year or two.
My baby-boomer mom is still using a Phenom II X4 940 with 6GB of DDR2-800 on Windows 7 but I think that she finally wants something that can run Windows 10. I know for a fact that the FX-8350 runs Windows 10 just fine (I was mining with it) with 8GB of DDR3-1333 so I'll buy her an SSD, a PSU, a case and I'll see if she wants to finally upgrade her video card. Her use case is so light that she's still happily using an old Radeon HD 6450, a re-branded version of the HD 5450, a card that was considered weak when it came out almost thirteen years ago. The thing is, she uses her PC for watching old shows and nothing she watches is higher than DVD quality (480p), let alone 1080p. If the HD 6450 has worked for her thus far, it'll probably work fine for her until it dies. If and when that happens, I have an old XFX HD 5450 which will give her the same experience. This HD 5450 is passively-cooled which is just mind-blowing in this day and age of 4-slot, triple-fan designs with sixteen pin ATX power supplement cables.
It's hard to buy things for baby-boomers because they don't understand tech for the most part (which is what most things are these days). The advantage however is that giving them old hardware that is still blazingly fast for their uses thrills them just as much as a new RX 6800 XT thrills us. That's a piece of advice for all the other Gen-X'ers who don't know what to get their tech-clueless parents for Christmas. :D
The FX 8320 and 8350 are 4c8t cpus
Interesting read. My uncle is using my old AM3 Phenom II 955 machine with 8gb ram, a 750 ti I once ran, using Linux Mint that I installed. Runs perfectly with no hiccups, for years now, and because it isn't windows, there aren't any instruction issues either. He doesn't game, and he found the OS near enough to his old beloved XP, that he finds it all easy to use.
I'm building virtually same thing but with fx990 gaming mobo that will sport an nvme. Probably will use my old rx570 8gb, which can be got now for 100 bucks or so. l'll sell it and use the proceeds towards a new rx series card. Will be 300 bucks all in.
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What Computer did u finally build for ur mom? I use a FX8120, 16gb Ram DDR3 and a 1050ti, Board is an 970a SLI Krait from MSI, works fine under win 10
Im using an 8350 with 990fx sabretooth board and a gtx 970 4gb and 32gb ddr3 crucial ram. Its running totaly stock values and i have no issues with any games I play (mainly mmorpgs and generally high settings) it runs nice and stable, keep making the vids
Hey how much fps do u get on warzone low 1080p
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Bravo !!!! Finally a person who is not afraid to tell the truth. On the other hand I mean being cool is important and marketing is the most important of all. 'Fantastic' video.
"intel i7/AMD Athlon 2" btw
Son is currently running a FX8350 on an Asrock board OC'd to 4.7GHz with a Zalman air cooler, 16GB RAM and a GTX 1050Ti and kicks around in Fortnight with friends with no complaints. He also plays WoT without issues either - the SD client.
I just switched out my FX8350 for a i5 10600 a few weeks ago, still was quite a capable processor
was also rocking the FX8350, The FX8350 is still working and runs great for non-gaming experiences, but I was having a lot of issues playing Newer titles and enjoying my overall PC experience in games. When I saw the I9-12900K, I too upgraded.
How big was the upgrade in games tho?
You guys didn't really show what the FX is capable of. That board? Junk. 8320 vs 8350 is almost night and day. 8gb of 1333MHz? Why? GPU choice was meh.
You didn't really give this (or any) FX a fighting chance with this setup. Try a 9xx board with a least an 8350, a proper cooler (I use Enermax ETS-N31s on our 3 FX machines), 16GB of 1866MHz and at least a GTX 1060 3 or 6 GB. Overclocking will also increase the night and day difference.
Of course the price points will be different, but this video was like having a 1999 corvette only run through 2nd gear in the quarter mile.
this was my dream build back in the day ...i had an fx6300 that still works!
Video Idea:
Compare a mid range Gaming PC from 2022 to a high end gaming PC from few years ago while having the price of both the same, it will help you determine what is the most bang for the buck.
I'm currently using an FX 8320 (8350 if I hadn't bent the pin when changing coolers, cpu got stuck on the thing), and paired with a 1060 plays the only game I play on PC (Genshin Impact) stutter-free. I guess it just depends on your preference, pc availability, and most of all, budget. Got my asus pro 2 with this CPU for around $70, and with 16GB or RAM I am happy with my decision.
Did you try straightening the pins? I dropped my cpu but, was able to fix the pins with a small flathead.
@@303ant420 It already had too many broken pins to begin with. It would be too much for me to unbend pins and try to solder the broken ones, so I just got the 8320. Oveclocked to 8370 speeds
This video has some nice edit skills and the audio levels are good, thereby keeping the video about having fun. This comment is to provide helpful information to readers. It is worth adding the correction that NVMe existed on fx8320 Motherboards _(e.g. 990x Gaming Gigabyte, whereby it is important to strictly use the enclosed DVD driver)_ when it was sold, and other people have shown those games running fine without conjecture about what it might be like in an alternative setup untested.
Also the NVMe can boot off a PCI-e slot via adaptor (a few dollars). People opt for some of those 990x MBoards (not necessarily the Gigabyte-Gaming-model) and fx8320 (or fx8350) combinations so as to not only do some gaming but for learning for the IOMMU (SLAT) capabilities (Xen, etc.) whilst remaining in the AMD side to compare to the intel side.
FreeSync GSync-compat-mode, and BCLK tweaks with VRM cooling. Such a CPU comes with those MBoards. Some adequate DDR3 RAM is cheap. It is down to personal preference. Some people prefer the increased PCI-e options and some legacy PCI (such as specific Audio cards). The MBoards hold their price since there is demand for them, for the subset of people who want them.
It is also possible to swap out the CPU on a rare oaccasion to something like a sempron with low wattage (18watt or less), underclocked (one or two cores) in case of having a low power scenario (running from a battery) of for where expansion cards are the priority (like OpenCL or FPGA), thereby also allowing for a passive cooler (no fan). So it is scalable. some people use a PC for work and then occassionally play some gaming.
Many people have succeeded, demonstrating online what they can do with the fx8320 or fx8350 vishera _(such as with an 8GB RX570 or 8GB Nvidia card)_ and did so fulfilling their end user responsibility to correctly use the products in a humble manner that would not result problems. Easily found online, they have been great to learn from and I recommend others check out the content too.
My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love. Also, I'd say Matthew6.
Hii please help me I need amd fx-8370 drivers could please provide me 🥺🙏🙏
Love the way you were respectful and thoughtful in your response. Sourced well and polite.
However…
My favorite part was your ending. God bless you and keep you, brother.
Remember when building my first rig of all brand new parts and deciding between AMD FX and intel i5, So glad I dodged a bullet and went with a i5. 4th gen intel is still very usable for general use case and also up to high end gaming as I use to have a i7 4790k paired with a gtx 1080 ti. Still running i7 4790k with a rx vega 64 with Zorin os 16 pro and loving the performance still!
I ran an AMD FX for 8 years. finally switched it with a Ryzen 5800x in early 2021, but still have my FX running with a 5500XT for my spouse. The daily use of the FX CPUs were way better than what was said by tech reviewers, look up RA Tech digging into this.
There's a reason why many of FX users didn't switch CPU until 2020.
RA Tech compares a FX-8350 vs a i5-3470.
he also reviewed the i7 4790 in his later videos.
This is in fact a true 8 core CPU, the lawsuit was over the fact that they didnt accurately disclose the extent to which each core shared resources.
But there are no virtual cores on here, each core is accompanied by physical hardware on the dye.
can you guys do a video testing the 2600k i have one and not sure its still worth getting a gpu for it and using as a spare pc
If you have a decent motherboard & air cooler you should be able to overclock a fair bit. The older CPU had huge overclocking headroom. If overclocked it will be faster than the stock FX CPU in this video, so will play lighter games fine, but may struggle with newer games which use the AVX2 instruction set that the pre 4th gen cpus don't have, as well as open world games, such as Watch Dogs Legion, Cyperpunk, Shadow of the Tomb raider in certain situations etc which can really hit the CPU at times.
@@rathstar thank you
I ran an AMD FX-8100 overclocked to 3.8Ghz for 6 years before upgrading to a Ryzen 5 1600 AF in 2020. Now I have a Ryzen 7 1700X I got from $70 from Facebook Marketplace.
I'm Using A AMD FX-8320, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Motherboard, NZXT M22 Water Cooling, 32Gig DDR3 (1866) G.Skill Memory, 1TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD, Win10 Pro, RTX 2080 TI Founder Edition GPU With Most Games Set To High With A Smooth Gameplay Capping Halo infinite Around 110-165 FPS. 2560x1440 Rez, HDR & Ray Tracing Enabled To Supported Games. Only A Little Laggy At Loading Screens. I Haven't Tested Yet With The NZXT Z63 But So Far Gaming Seems To Run Great With My Test Build.
Love watching things I can't afford. Always love you guys, you keep me dreaming high.
You can get a used fx 8320 dirt cheap right now :)
I bought off an old PC from my older cousin in the heat of the GPU shortage. $200 got me a:
AMD FX 8320
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo
MSI Twin Frozr GTX 760 2GB
4GB x 2 G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 MHz CL8
Some AsRock MoBo
NZXT Phantom 410
256 GB SSD
1 TB HDD
Just having the GTX 760 was still better than what I had at the time. Moved on to the RX 6650XT, which I actually got for cheaper than the RX 6600XT, at least at the time of purchase
Edit: Failed to mention that I did upgrade to an i5 10600K and an Asus Prime Z590-P MoBo last summer, as I wanted a more powerful CPU for video editing and streaming
So you just upgraded?
@@joshuagaona1274 Yeah, just the GPU. Upgraded to a 10600K and an Asus Prime Z590 MoBo last summer. I needed more headroom for video editing and streaming
Appreciate the work, thanks. You said it a few times: It's the board. Good for legacy stuff, but if you're going this way it's worth the time waiting to find the 970 or 990 MB at the right price. The FX8350 and FX8370 still kicks--the 9590 is a burner, so a compatible MB isn't worth the money. OC'ing the DDR helps these CPUs a lot, too. I'd also think about a linux distro especially if an AMD GPU is going to be used.
@Jeroen Check RA Tech's older videos on the FX8350 if you're still interested in the CPU (I currently use an 8370 and two 8350s for different uses, in different places.)
ruclips.net/user/RATechYT
RA Tech tweaked the NB in order to stabile the memory. His work is very helpful and better than most of what else I've seen on the FX series.
@Jeroen Good to know, thanks. I think where he was mainly seeing the gain/improvement was stabilized frametime--significantly less chop. I've got recent hardware working, too, but I still like the 83xx CPUs and I also have Intel SB and IB systems running, as well, lol (like, currently building a home NAS with an i5-2500).
Jack should remember what he's working on like the 8320 not the 8350 and he's promoting and building computers 😂
I actually just put my 8350 back together for my wife to use for work. I still had all the components (mobo is a 990fxa-gd65) and I just bought a 3080 for the gaming rig so I'm throwing the vega 56 in there haha.
i just did the same for my spouse!
Just threw in a 5500 XT.
I'm curious what an Athlon X4 970 would do since it is similar architecture as the FX series but on the AM4 socket.
Finally! A video on the CPU that I've been using since October 2020. I was fortunate enough to get the motherboard, CPU, GPU (Radeon HD 7950 3GB Twin Frozr iii), and RAM(16GB)for free from a friend. All I had to buy was the case and power supply. It was a nice upgrade from the Core 2 Duo, 6GB of RAM, and Geforce 210 GPU that I previously had. I'll upgrade as soon as I can put the money together. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
I am repeating this comment but I used a 8350 until very recently held up well. Last aaa game inplayed was borderlands 3 though. Gpu was a 780ti. Moved to sandybridge-e and did not see a massive difference till I got the 6 core 12 thread 3930k.
8xxx series cpus really need to be tweaked to get decent proformance. I don't know what amd did but the stock proformance is astoundingly bad.
You shoud start by trying to lock in a 4.4ghz core oc and up the northbridge to match the ht link speed. Be careful if you have a bad motherboard with incresing voltage.
Like ryzen faster ram helps but if you have 1600 cl9 sticks you shoud be able to do 1600 cl 8-8-8-22 @1.65v no problem for a minor boost. And 1333 sticks shoud do 1600 9-9-9-24 also at 1.65v
As for the 7950 try out the nimez modded drivers on guru3d. You should be fine for 900-1080p in most modern games and quality settings used. I perfer a 900p medium to a 1080p low.
@4.7 ghz fx gets close to stock sandybridge ips.
@@andrewmcewan9145 Thanks for the advice. I've tried overclocking multiple times and the main problem is that CPU and Northbrigde get too hot when increasing the voltage. My motherboard is the MSI 970. My case isn't that good for cooling and the aftermarket cooler I have isn't the best either. If I can overclock withoit having to increase the voltage(s) too much then it might be possible. I did overclock to 4.5GHz at one point but the PC shuts down when rendering a video through Sony Vegas or just about any other similar program due to overheating. I'll try your settings and see what happens.
@@BREEZYM6015 doesn't have to be 4.4 but dissableding apm and setting a fixed clock should make a noticeable inprovment.
4.0 ghz can usally be achieved with an undervolt. And if the cpu throttles it throttles to like 700-1400MHz in bursts much worse than a locked lower frequency.
@@andrewmcewan9145 I'm at 4.0GHz now. It's when I try to go over 4.4Ghz that I run into problems. Maybe I'll just overclock to 4.4Ghz and leave it there.
@@BREEZYM6015 i was only able to get 4.4 on my cousins 6350 before the voltage got too high.
4.4 is 10% more.
Definitely try 2400-2600 on the northbridge.
Gains on nb clock arnt bad
I had an FX 6300 until early this year when my old build started shutting down. I still have it but it's not being used anymore due to the build failing. It was running at 78 idle which may or may not have even been why my build started to fail. It was paired with a 750ti 2gb that I am currently using as a placeholder in my new build that I finished in April (if it waited just two or three or even four months to fail I'd have a new GPU and a slightly different new build) until I can afford something to replace it.
Seems likely the thermal paste just dried up on you. Get some fresh stuff and clean the old off with pure ipa and re-paste it. It seems likely unless the power delivery on the board is going wonky. You might be able to check that last by monitoring the voltages with software such as Hardware Info 64.
needs a EVO 212 cooler
@@joefish6091 Yeah AMD specs the FX-6300 at 70.5°C so 78C sounds too high. I agree with Kasey and Joe somewhat. Make sure whtever cpu cooler ur using is spec'ed at the same TDP wattage of ur cpu or better. In this case u should have a 95W or btr cooler. Ofc u need to make sure the airflow in your case is good too.
I just got this CPU and motherboard in a prebuilt on Craigslist with a GTX 1050 for $160. Getting into the PC world for my son and I to learn to build. Thanks for the upload even though it's a year later
I had an FX 8350 Black édition OC 5Ghz some times during the launch of the first Ryzen, bought it under 80$ , build a new pc with an GTX 1050 ti (4 gb), 64gb ram DDR3 , a little SSD sata , BRUUUUH for under 500$ back at the time i was abble to play the most recent game at 1080p resolution with médium / High settings !! Arround 50/60 fps i was so fking impressed
The first Pc I built and had up to last year had an FX-8370e and an R9 380X in 2015 this thing was a beast with 32GB of DDR3 and I used a Gigabyte Mirco ATX board.
@@garrettbischoff3817 sold it and upgraded to a 3080ti Fe and a 5900x in 2021.
@@garrettbischoff3817 I think that is a perfect idea, I wanted to keep my old Pc but I am low on space where I live right now and I did not want the PC to collect dust and someone gave me a good offer for it.
IF you need a heater and PC combo, by all means buy a FX 8320 and a R9 290x with passive cooling
Can confirm. i have an fx 8350, and a r9 390.. and it is absolutely incredible how hot that thing gets.
Up until January 2020 I was using an FX8350 and got rid of that build for an 18-core xeon setup and i'm going to be completely honest, there is not a single thing I miss about that steaming hunk of shit hahahah. I mean, yeah it worked for what it was supposed to, but my old-ass 4th gen i7 laptop runs circles around it all day even while thermal throttling.
do the 18 cores in the xeon perform better than say a ryzen 7 4800 or so? and if they do, then why is intel and AMD having ryzen 9s and intel I9s as the flagship CPUs and why are they the most used for gaming?
To reduce excessive heat use low load line calibration and apm enable with cool and quite
10:50 - Do you guys actually have ANY IDEA what numbers are correct for a given FPS / Frame Time correlation? Smooth 60 FPS = 16.6 ms. 3-4ms would be 250-333 FPS. Understanding how these 2 numbers relate is a basic REQUIREMENT if you are going to comment on performance.
The old 8320 was doing fine for it's age and having such a low baseclock 8 core. If you look at the ram usage in gods of war , it was certainly running out of system ram and what do you suppose happens when a system tries to use page filing when sata is already saturated? Using a 2 gig video card is fine for games that came out when FX did, but on the modern titles....it's not a good pairing when trying to show cpu capability. It was a good thought to try the 3060 to get around that limitation but Nvida cards beyond the 9 series do not play well with FX . If you have a 980 Ti or preferrably a FURY or FURY X laying around to pair with it - I wouldn't be surprised if it would perform better than it does with the 3060 at 1080p and reasonable settings.
I used the f out of my 8350 black and I could not give it up so I made it into its own special case and used my gtx 1070 for my point of sale computer at my business. It is still strong as ever.
1:26 - AMD never stretched the truth or deceived anyone. DAY 1 reviews CORRECTLY described the architecture as a 4-module 8 core CPU. The diagram showed 8 integer cores and 4 shared floating point cores. Anyone who read reviews before making their purchase would have known that. BUT...any time you toss up a frivolous lawsuit and tell people "FREE MONEY" honesty and objectivity go RIGHT out the window.
I had an A8-5545M that was based on the FM2 BGA socket, and as far as I know, it was a cut-down version of an FX series CPU with 4 cores, and a base clock of 1.7GHz, and a max boost clock of 2.4GHz. It was AUFUL! It struggled to get 60 FPS on MINECRAFT! I never want to even think about using that laptop EVER again.
Great vid guys , i had a fx8350 myself back in the day
I run an vishara 8350 with 16gigs of ram on a 990 board as my proxmox server with a pihole, nas, firewall, and a few container tools. These systems definitely have their place.
Sound like my old Fatal1ty setup. The board/cpu/ ram is still in a box somewhere around here.
@@kaseyboles30 It's honestly a really solid system still, and for network/lab purposes it's outstanding. I built it with longevity in mind and it has more than paid for itself...especially since I was part of the class action suit and AMD basically paid for the chip lol.
me watching this video with an AMD FX 8350
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As others mentioned, the FX 8350 is the CPU you should have used. I had it paired with 16GB of DDR3 1866 RAM and an RX 480 8GB, and gamed on it until I went to the Ryzen 1700X and DDR4. It was still solid when I quit using it. So the 990FX MOBO I have is worth something?
it depends what mobo asus tuf 990fx can go for like 150-200$ in EU prices in US are way differenet
I have the same case. really love the look, space, airflow, and price.
I am still gaming on a FX-8350 whit oc . This cpu is my best buy back in the day.
The FX series was like a weird 8 core. It had 8 integer units, but only 4 floating point units. So it could do 8 cores of work in some apps, but only 4 in others. Pretty sure that was the reason for the lawsuit since it only had 4 "full" cores.
Yes it was over the definition of what a core is and only in California. I do side with amd although it could have been done better.
The 8008 which we say is a cpu only had ineger support and you needed a co processor dont remeber model number off top of my head to do integer. The p3?(some cpu in the pentium) line could do int and floating point at the same time. Quake made use of this and its why it ran like shit on some competing cpus of the time like citrix chips.
That lawsuit was bullshit. A CPU core is an integer core or ALU and the FX-8000 CPUs had 8 ALUs. The reason that this is true is because before the 80486DX, CPUs didn't have FPUs included with them. If you wanted an FPU, you had to buy something called a "math co-processor" which wasn't x86, it was x87 architecture. A CPU core had been defined for over a decade before the FX-series came along.
@@andrewmcewan9145 I agree with you. All CPUs prior to the 80486DX did not have FPUs included with them. You had to buy the FPU separately as a "math co-processor" which weren't x86 architecture, they were x87. So, according to the "legal geniuses" in California, The 8086, 8088, 80186, 80286, 80386sx, 80386DX and 80486sx weren't really CPUs because they only had ALUs in them.
The USA is so stupid with its (lack of) tort laws.
This a blast from the past for sure. Mind you, the test-bed system I still use for GNU Linux distribution testing rocks an FX-4300 Black CPU and 16 GB of RAM. Runs Factorio just fine, grin.
Crazy how this combo played far better than the 12th gen video you guys made. I honestly expected higher frames in that video
My second PC with FX8350 16GB DDR3 GTX960 4GB still Rocking. And working and working.
fx-9590 with sabertooth 990fx with a 1070 founder in 2023! looking into getting new mobo and cpu!
My friend who kinda got me into PCs has a FX 8350 black edition with both a r7 370 and a gt8800. We worked at the high school together as computer techs under the schools actual technician. 10 years later (yes that was in 2005) he built that PC. He kept bugging me to build one, but I waited when I heard about Ryzen and Skylake. Fast Forward, he's still rocking that system, but since I have gotten a newegg shuffle, I'm gonna upgrade his card to a 3050. He just needs a new board, processor and ram lol.
At this point just keep it as is and build a new one lol
A longtime friend was still using the FX 8320 (featuring 800mhz ram) and it was starting to really struggle. Ended up building her a new 12400 system a few months ago with the only holdover component being her rx570 8gb. GTAV went from an inconsistent and choppy 50fps to a very smooth 150fps using identical 1080p settings. Pretty massive gains, considering the gpu was the same lol.
GTAV is heavy on CPU
I gave an old friend of mine my old 1600AF and 32gb of 3000 cl16 ram to rebuild his system around, He got a b450board and nvme drive and kept his case,psu, and gpu (an rx560, this was about time gpu prices peaked, those were going for almost 300 on ebay). He just got that replace with an rx 6600. When that thing was booting it was his first experience with any sort of ssd and as it started to boot into windows the first time he went around the corner into his kitchen to do something while it booted. A few moments later asked how much longer it would take to boot since I had told him it would be a lot faster. The look on his face and way he ran back around the corner when I told him "none, it's waiting for login" was worth it right there. He'd been downplaying my insistence that an ssd was much, much better.
@@kaseyboles30 That's awesome! Switching from an old spinny disk drive to a solid state drive for the operating system is one of the best upgrades ever, in my estimation. Such a huge quality of life improvement. Good on you for helping get your friend a good, competent build that hopefully lasts as long as he needs it!
@@ThrasherEscapes Agreed Ive got a 120gb ssd for my system only. Still kickin after 6 years
Hello, i´m curious, what happens if you use a new gpu like rx 6600 or rtx 3050 in the processor fx 6300 because the fx 8320 has 4 core with a floating point and 4 cores without and the fx 6300 has 3 cores with a floating pint and other 3 without??
this question is because the fx 8320 is similar to a i3 processor now and they cand run all games and the 6300 is very common in old pc´s and maybe it can run the new games with a GPU upgrade
Thats not how it works. 2 cores share the floating point unit and a bunch of other stuff.
I used to have an FX-8350 paired to an R9-280X 3GB from around 2014 straight to 2017 when I upgraded to Ryzen. I mean, yeah, the FX was never a good product overall, but I got it dirt cheap even in 2014, I think it was priced just a tad over the i3 of the time? Definitely got it waaay cheaper than the entry level i5 available then. I remember it was worse even than an i3 in some strictly single-core heavy games around that time but since then core counts... count more? :) I was fine with it, I was rendering videos for youtube often at that time and for that it was way better than the old Core 2 Quad Q6600 I had before. It was always toasty and half decent at some tasks, bad at others, but I still sticked to it for some reason. Interesting to see what it does today.
I would've been more glad to see something like the R9-280X or R9-290 here in this build. The 900 series Nvidia cards didn't age particularly well, and the 960 2GB was never that great, it lacked VRAM even at release.
As an fx 6300 user, i really have no reason to upgrade
Fx6300 was my ever ever ever gaming rig with a X fire Radeon HD 7850 then upgraded to a water cooled fx 8300 years down the road with a GTX 770. It was my last ever PC till selling it and getting a ps4 because me and my ex gf played a lot of forest together, cod black ops 3, stranded deep, green hell yes I know all of those games are on pc but she had a ps4 so it was cheaper for me to get a ps4 anyways. Now I’m back on AMD with the ryzen 7 7840hs with rtx 4060 nitro 17 laptop.
Love your channel, keep it up! :)
Until last month I been using an FX8320 which I had since the release of the processor. It did the job I needed it for which is to play the type of games I like to play. But the last couple years the FX8320 been showing it's age to the point it was hard to break 50 FPS at 1080p in the type of games I like to play. It was not cause of the video card it was cause of the CPU was strugging to render the world/map while moving fast.
One game the FX8320 strugged at is called 'ECO' when I was driving around in a truck. I had to stop the truck every 15-20 feet and wait for the CPU to render the world/map so I could see where I was going. If I was on foot walking around the FX8320 did a OK job at playing it.
Last month I ended up picking up a used Intel Core i7-8700 & Asus ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming motherboard for $50 dollars locally. As for the video card I'm using a EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB which I bought couple years ago for $40 dollars locally. Now I'm using the computer specs below and I'm able to play my games much better.
Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz (4.6GHz Max Turbo)
-Asus ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming
-32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200MHz
-EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB GAMING ACX 3.0
-Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 250GB + Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB
-Corsair 750W 80 Plus Platinum
-Windows 11 Pro
-27" LG UltraGear 165Hz 1080p Monitor
Hii please help me I need amd fx-8370 drivers could please provide me 🥺🙏🙏
I still have an 8370 one a an 990fx motherboard with 16gb ram. could put it in a case with a gt1030 and 550psu for a media pc if I ever get around to it. I have an old but still working 512gb sata ssd I could use for boot. All I really need is the case and psu and of course the infamous round tuit.
Been a minute since ive commented.
Upgrading the kiddos rig tonight. His birthday present.
Going from an 8350 to a r5 4500 (got it cheap af)
I still run AMD FX 8320e and the same MOBO with 16gb 1333mhz and gtx 970. I play on it Cyberpunk, AC, Horizon Zero dawn, warzone and lot more AAA games.
I get that FX hasnt aged the best but its almost like you went out of your way to get the worst possible setup.
It has aged well. It still holds it own
just retired my 8350 this month, it can still rock I just decided for an upgrade
FX8320e on a M578L mobo with 16gb @ 1333mhz paired with a R7 370 oc 4gb. Running 1080p 60fps since 2014. I've only added an Artic Freezer 7 cooler. OG status.
I still have an FX 9590 @ 4.7 GHz with 32 GBs of DDR3 2400 that I bought on release back in 2013. Still going strong. Just replaced the old Fury x with the Vega 64 LC I had in my other PC because I upgraded to the 7900 XTX.
I’m running a fx 8120 16 gig ram and rx 580 in 2023 working like a dream
Hey I got a 760GM-E51 motherboard from msi will this work with it
I still have my FX 6300 CPU! I use it as game emulation machine now!
I'm still gaming on a FX-6300 with AIO at 4.4mhz on Asrock 970M Pro3 and a 1650 super with 16gb I had a R9 270x before GPU upgrade. I built this computer 7 years ago and just now needing to upgrade so I've got my money out of it very happy with the build.
I currently have an FX-8320 / 16GB DDR3 1866MHz / 500GB SATA SSD. How long do you think this will remain relevant for office work? Microsoft office, google chrome, RUclips, Netflix, etc.
My first cpu was an fx 8350, paired with a gtx 760
My first cpu was a z80 in a timex sinclair followed by a 6510 in a c64 shortly there after. Gpu in first was a simple text on screen device. The second used the VIC-II chip.
My fx8350 was running 4.82ghz on asus sabertooth 990fx.heating in the house not needed. This thing was drawing 250watts + alone.
Can u do a review on the HP pavilion and the vrla spark
I have a fx 8320 paired with a evga superclocked gtx 1070 , 24gb ddr3 , no issues playing on 1080 to 1440 with mid to max settings on every game.
Hello friend, thank you for the video. I have a question about am3+ motherboards. I have an old am3+ motherboard system with an FX-8370 processor but the motherboard is now dead. So I am undecided to buy a used am3+ motherboard because some people say that it's really not worth spending money. I have a limited budget and cannot afford for am4 motherboards nowadays. If I buy an am4 motherboard, I also need to upgrade the other components as well. So far, I haven't had a problem with my am3+ system and I have been using the system mostly for programming, researching and watching some movies. What do you think? Thanks!
had my FX-8350 with 24 GB of DDR3 for almost a decade now and keep considering upgrading it but it still holds it own.
Vibin' to the montage music
Now that games are actually using those 8 threads the old FX has woken up quite a bit, perhaps they could have been something special back in the day if our games were taking advantage of them who knows. Mine is still running strong, and modern games running great paired with 2060, nowhere near as bad as people make out.
I still have an overclocked 1055t setup I first built in 2011. Still kicking as a plex server and kids Minecraft rig. Currently case modding and refreshing as a dual boot XP gaming build / plex server with my old 6850.
I think the SATA-2 causes 80% of your bottlenecks:
I have an FX-8350 on an Asrock 970A-G/3.1 mobo, with a 970 chipset, so lower high end.
It has a PCIE NVME slot and SATA-3 slots, and this pc flies in Windows.
The FX chipsets did not have an NVME controller I think, so Asrock probably put a 3rd party add-on chip on my mobo to provide the NVME slot.
With my GTX-1060 6Gb card, it still plays almost all games at 1080p. A 1070 is overkill on an FX cpu.
But yes, the FX chips will struggle more and more with future titles, and in 2023 they will probably become "older games only" computers.
And just like most older cpus, Microsoft currently does not support them for Windows 11, unless one day they change their mind.
Yes, there are folks who install Win11 on non-supported CPUs, but don't do that: You may well not get security updates anymore at some point. It is safer to stay on Windows 10 with these CPUs.
I run Fx8320 32Gb of Ram 1866mhz with GTX 1660 TI on Asus M5A97 Rev. 1.02 970 chipset built
Built this setup back in 2014
Paired in crossfire Asus Hd 7770 2gb back then.
Was an amazing build for the time period and still a decently capable machine even 10+ years later, won't get you the 100 to 150+ fps on modern games like it did with games around that time period. Would make for a good home theater setup or home workstation/storage database in the next few years.
Why hamstring the FX by not overclocking and giving it such a poor GPU ? Although I'd add a 970 or 980 rather than he GPU you used :) An overclock (normally 4.5ghz on air cooling) will get it beating i5's from Sandy and Ivy bridge (still not great) with the 8 threads leading to smoother performance than the Sandy and Ivy bridge i5's. Although I see why you tested with out of the box performance, but a full review should consider the overclocking potential which was quite high with the older CPUs of this generation (both Intel & AMD). After listening to your comments on the motherboard, would it have been a good option for overlocking ?
Your comments about the motherboard are very true. The only FXs I bought I picked up with a decent motherboard so they had SATA 3 (it was 2 FX 8350s and an FX6300), so its worth looking out for a reasonable price for those (people are just getting rid of these builds, for a reason). However overall I agree with you, as you can get a i3-10100F and a budget motherboard (or a 12100F) for not much more, its not worth going down this route nowadays. My floor for budget gaming PCs are unlocked i5 & ideally i7 from Haswell (4th gen), and even those CPU's days are numbered.
Bought an old gaming PC with the FX-8320 (stable 4.3GHz) and Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 MB with 16GB RAM and a 120GB SSD, 550W PSU. Complete otherwise but no GPU. Paid 50 euros for it (2nd hand). This MB has 8 SATA3-connectors. I then bought a used GTX 1070 8GB OC for 120 euros. I today installed a NVMe to PCIe adapter (20€) and a spare Samsung 1TB NVMe for the games and it works great (Win10). So, I have 190€ invested + the Samsung NVMe. I hope this cheap machine to run pretty ok with my older games. Maybe not all will run at ultra or even high settings but I don't expect to be disappointed.
My PC spec
Core i3 2nd gen 3.30Ghz
4GB single channel DDR3 ram
Radeon R5 430
400w power supply (off brand)
MSI H61M-P31 (G3)
So is my spec good or nah ? Because when I'm playing Genshin Impact, Sims 4, Apex Legend, and Fortnite it's running smooth with average fps around 50-60
you would put a finger instead of cooling, and really why overclock fx it doesn’t make sense of course !!!
The thumbnail shows a perfectly playable scenario for me
try this fx with 16gb of ram and gtx 1070 ;) still runs like charm even in new games for 1080p mid settings nice 60+ fps
currently running an fx 8350 with 32 gb or ddr3 1600 and an rx 550 4gb gpu with a samsung evo ssd sorta laggy in web browsing on chrome with 4 tabs open but streams with streamlabs nicely still plays some games decently
I bought this mobo (78LMT USB3 R2) with AMD FX 8300 all second part about 60 US$ 1 -2 month ago. seller said he rarely used this motherboard.
i'am still using my old PC with FX 8320 with 16GB RAM, its playable for a game even use the low graphic and enjoy my 1st build since 2 years ago.. ,😄 hope can make or rebuild the better CPU's
thank you
FX-8350 and an Nvidia 960 still going stronk here
i have a fx 8320 has ben through 2 people 2 hard drives 2 graphics cards and now im ordering new ram. really nothing was wrong with the gpu i just upgraded it cause i thought there was until i put a new ssd in it and the gpu i got was a 4 gb fx 570 gonna get 16 g of hyper x savage 1866mhz ram.
Well, our older kid have FX 8320, 24 GB of Corsair Vengeance, SSD + HDD, MSI GTX 960 4G OC and he play most of games on high details without any fps drops (GTA V, CS, Fortnite, Witcher 3, PES 2022, Vermintide 2...). Right now, I just think about change HDD to SSD and maybe switch 8320 to i5 6600k, but when I saw comparison those to cpu's, I probably change only disks and maybe GPU in future.
I have a feeling that the temperatures are being reported incorrectly...there's just no wait an FX cpu is under 70-80ºc. Either way, with a good mobo and a good cooler, these FX can actually perform quite good.
That wraith cooler with the copper pipes is HEAVY and had no trouble keeping my 8300 cool.
I got rid of that system kept the cooler :)
I have an AMD FX-8320 with an asus strix geforce gtx 1050 ti and 16gb of ram i have overclocked the processor and the video card and can play most games... currently playing No Man Sky but i can also play Eve Online and running windows 11 pro. I do have the 990FXA-UD3 motherboard which helps.
i use to have and FX 8350 back in 2016. 2 died on me. went with I7 4790k after that. and never looked back. but the I7 4790k is not happy paired with my 1080ti :(
Back in 2016 I was running a water cooled 8350, 16gb ram, and a gtx 1060 6gb and it run great for the games back then, especially when dayz was its buggiest and no one could run more than 30 fps I was smiling behind my pc with 80+
It is a 8 core, but 2 cores shared fpu, there they got suede because some did not consider them as fully 8 core
For me, I just need an SSD. Regardless of performance I still want to make this build and see if it’s enough to handle cyberpunk. It ran BO3 with a 980. Can it run cyberpunk with a 1070
I am rocking an AMD FX- 8350 16 DDR3 Ram 4TB hard drive Graphics card asus rx 5500 xt 8gb and motherboard is an Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA Z
I bought a cheap asrock board and put a nvme on a pcie card and booted from it . Built it with my 6300 and gave it to my father in law . The asrock board was actually a pretty awesome board for the price ($69.00)
I think it's an issue with Halo Infinite, I was testing a GTX 980 with a 3800x to avoid bottle neck, and it still had thos texture issues. With dynamic resolution on. Turned it off and it fixed the resolution issue
there are boards for am3+ that have nvme, some gigabyte boards for example
Asrock as well. Got one for $40 on eBay recently. I would argue with the Toasty Bros that they overpaid for a GTX 960 even when they bought it. Likely get at least a 970 with 4 GB of ram, if not a 980. Mine is now paired with a GTX 1070.