You should have used pocket hole screws instead of regular screws. do you have any plans or blue prints that someone can use to build their own pinball machine with??
Honestly, I just got the cheapest ones I could find on Amazon. I use re-used buttons from Arcade1up's OUTRUN for the main flipper buttons, mostly because they're concave, making them feel a bit different then the buttons I'm using for the nudges....
IF you have the monitor & the PC, the build cost no more than $200, and that's including the encoder board, buttons, wires, screws, wood, glass, tape, yada.
Thanks Lacrossed. Yeah, it turned out pretty nice. When I get the AG Legends vpin in, it'll be interesting how short it will look by comparison. Might have to break down & buy real pinball legs for it....
Awesome video! You've got a really good handle on explaining things simply for every level to understand. I've watched it a couple times now and it's great 👍🏻
John, a parts list of which encoder board(s), buttons, wires, screws, wood, and glass to use would be very helpful. I'm sure we are all VERY interested on how to setup and install VPX10 and Future Pinball tables to your VP cabinet.
Working on it Hollywood! The wood is just 1" MDF board (same stuff used in A1up cabs, just a little thicker). Screws are just dry wall screws. Glass just a piece I had Lowes cut for me..... more later tonight!
Holy Cow John you lift 70lb dumbells? That's amazing no wonder your looking so buff! I wish I were there to help you put it together! This is a great build, and it should be the standard for anyone building their own cabinet! Well done!
I have, but graphic design (even at the most basic levels) beyond me. Wouldn't know how to make graphics lineup with the dimensions of the pin. But yes, I have wanted to do something like that.....
Your video is super fun to watch, I thought of getting a real pinball machine, but to be honest, the prices are insane these days. I hope in the future a manufacturer might do 4K stereoscopic displays for projects like these. Would be absolutely awesome to have a real 3D feel added with haptic response too! For now, making one on your own is great.
It was a pretty much just a steam/Zen build. Just goto their website, download the engine, and you can start playing (I think "Sorcerer's Lair" is still free, and it's a great game). You'll need to send them a pic of your rig to get the code for cabinet mode, but other than that, it's a pretty straight forward process. Check out my upcoming series on my 4K vpin build (starting next week!)
Great video! Thanks so much! I am just starting my DIY pinball project. One thing I want to ask you, that I did not get from the video. Did you put an extra glass above the playfield monitor? If you did, does the glass have the same angle as the monitor and do you get any reflections in the glass? Thank you.
Thanks for the nice words! I do use glass above the playfield; it's real pinball glass I got from Marcos (link below). No, reflections aren't a issue (well, no more than on a real pinball game). Link to the glass I use: www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/660-5001-00
Man you tempting me to just take a crack at it. I have a 27inch ips playfield that was waiting around for my 1up marvel that got cancelled. Great video as usual man 👍
Earth Monster - it really isn't that bad once you've figured out what angle you want the screen to be at. 27" should be nice - same essential size as a 32" in terms of building a table.
@@evilgeniusentertainment nice. I'll see. I have literally everything but the cabinet. Was going to hold out for the Atgames ALP and just run the PC on that, but that's still going to not be here until some time. And this will get me a dedicated fx3 cabinet if successful. I have a 17 and a 19 4:3 monitor for the backglass as well. 🤔
Yeah, that's one of the first things I'm going to test when I get my AG pinball in - how easy/practical is it to run steam? Hopefully Zen doesn't muck up the works in their next version of the software.
I see that OutRun in the corner buddy. I like what I'm seeing! Great video as always. Makes me wish that I did a DIY virtual pinball table myself. Don't have room with the Legends on pre order unfortunately.
John are you going to do a future video on how to add your VPX10 and Future Pinball tables to this? What front-end will you use and what settings are recommended?
I do have VPX9/10, but in reality all I ever really play is Zen/Steam. But yeah, I should do a separate, "Now that you have pinball table, here's what to do with it" type video. I mean, if there's any interest in it....
This is an awesome video, I would absolutely love to build my own im confident i could build the cabnet no problem ,but i have 0 understanding of how the electronics work haha
Hey thanks! I think it really wouldn't be too bad, particularly if you just started out with a Steam/Zen cab. Zero programing and essentially just hooking up HDMI & speaker cords. Trying to setup VPX is another thing though....
@@evilgeniusentertainment thanks for the advice , i do want to try it , and again I’m clueless is VPX what makes the buttons work with the game ? I would make nothing fancy just a bare bones machine , have you or anyone ever tried to do a machine with the old Microsoft 3d space cadet theme ? I think that would be kinda neat .
@@Barnanimal94 For my first, proof of concept, build I used a tupperware tub to put the various buttons & USB encoder into. Using a program called "joy 2 key" I then assigned those buttons to the ones that matched up to Steam/Zen. Then I scaled it up....
Very nicely done! Interesting that you went with the same leg bolt pattern Arcade1up is using on their pinball cabinets. Guess it's a very strong solution. Thanks for sharing this.
Brother, your being to humble. I know you've swung a hammer to nail on movie sets and props as well! Hope to see more zombie movie parts. Parts!😄😅😆Always interesting and informative hands down. Also, Cheers to you and Brother Warpig!!✌🍻 P.S. M.D.F. board. Lol I work at ACE Hardware. Fancy letters for sawdust and wood glue. 😅😆
Thanks brother! Oh yeah, been on at least 30 shows building sets. No idea you worked at an ACE! MDF ain't so bad, just as long as you understand it's not wood.
Very nice build and also very nice video. Can you tell me how tall is the front of the side panel and the back? And also how wide and tick are the legs.
Do you have a video of the game play with the awow and how good/bad it handles during play...also do you have a video in the wiring setup of the controls/monitors?
Richard - I'm about to re-visit my build of my pinball game this week, so I'll try to address those questions then. I'd say this about the AWOW - it works. You can't max out the visuals (esp for the Williams tables), and it tends to crash, but it works. If you're on a budget (and I was for this build), I'd say it's still an option. BUT if you could swing another $100, I'd go for an upgrade (something w/ an i5 chip).
Santiago - thank you! Far as links go, it's all pretty standard stuff - the cheapest 32" TV I could find at Walmart, aluminum stock from lowes for legs, and an old Dell 20" monitor for the back-glass. Buttons and encoder: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M2X88QP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Amp: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HN53NBD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 subwoofer puck: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009RGJ47S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
JVD my ALP just died and out of warranty, possibility the power supper died. Could I buy a 20 LCD TV, remove that ATGames Backbox Monitor and replace it. I could the just plug in from that HDMi slot on the 20 LCD Tv to my dedicated PC right and use it only for VPX use. I'll still use the ALP Body, legs and playfield screen are still fine and can be reused. What brand/wattage power supple would you recommend for my pinball project?
It'll depend mostly on what size TV you're using as the main monitor.... but mine's about 19" wide by about 36" deep. Height will depend on how you place your table legs. I'll be doing a new video on building it as soon as the weather breaks here.....
Not off the top of my head. It really is just a matter of choice (primarily if you plan to sit or stand while playing). I've since added longer legs to the machine, and the viewing angle is still just fine, so there's lots of wiggle room in terms of angle.
Dave, I'm building a new 4k vpin right now... I've had the wood & legs for a week; still waiting on the TV before I measure or cut anything! Which is a bit frustrating to be sure (and not super helpful for you), but yeah. BTW, if you're going forward, I'd seriously consider getting a OLED TV/monitor - they are absolutely a game changer in vpin (new vids coming soon!)
@@evilgeniusentertainment I'm new to the VP thing, I looked into like 10 years ago, and it was not very good, so I gave up after a short time but, today, it's looks worlds better and looks almost real with all the sensors to make it feel real. I am at the point where I am going lay a TV on the floor, use a 3 year old laptop and test to see how it looks. I'll check out your new video when listed..
Dave, that's basically what I did to start - just propped up a TV on a table. First video in the series is (likely) be about just how awesome state of the art vpin really is. Some of the new tables are simply mind blowing. That combined with higher end video card and the new OLED tv's makes those tables really pop. Throw on the solenoid haptics and it's getting very close to being "real".
If you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know~
You should have used pocket hole screws instead of regular screws. do you have any plans or blue prints that someone can use to build their own pinball machine with??
I'm shooting a new 4K vpin build as we speak Paul, hope you check them out!
Loved this! Any particular site you would recommend for the buttons?
Honestly, I just got the cheapest ones I could find on Amazon. I use re-used buttons from Arcade1up's OUTRUN for the main flipper buttons, mostly because they're concave, making them feel a bit different then the buttons I'm using for the nudges....
I always look forward to your videos and love your honesty.
Thank you kindly Schubert - I do what I can....
JVD This is pretty awesome once you put on the artwork it will be next level and it was on a budget. Love it.
IF you have the monitor & the PC, the build cost no more than $200, and that's including the encoder board, buttons, wires, screws, wood, glass, tape, yada.
Great vision. Way to bring the concept to reality. 👍🏼
Thanks Lacrossed. Yeah, it turned out pretty nice. When I get the AG Legends vpin in, it'll be interesting how short it will look by comparison. Might have to break down & buy real pinball legs for it....
Awesome video! You've got a really good handle on explaining things simply for every level to understand. I've watched it a couple times now and it's great 👍🏻
Thank you Richard - I really appreciate the kind words!
You definitely got me at the end with " He hates these cans "! LOL
I'm just glad someone gets my references! Thanks for watching
John, a parts list of which encoder board(s), buttons, wires, screws, wood, and glass to use would be very helpful. I'm sure we are all VERY interested on how to setup and install VPX10 and Future Pinball tables to your VP cabinet.
Working on it Hollywood! The wood is just 1" MDF board (same stuff used in A1up cabs, just a little thicker). Screws are just dry wall screws. Glass just a piece I had Lowes cut for me..... more later tonight!
@@evilgeniusentertainmentdid you ever come back with the details
New DIY ep should be out this week!
Holy Cow John you lift 70lb dumbells? That's amazing no wonder your looking so buff! I wish I were there to help you put it together! This is a great build, and it should be the standard for anyone building their own cabinet! Well done!
Thank you Hollywood for the kind words!
Have you considered doing a vinyl wrap. You could have a wrap printed out and applied to provide decals and art.
I have, but graphic design (even at the most basic levels) beyond me. Wouldn't know how to make graphics lineup with the dimensions of the pin. But yes, I have wanted to do something like that.....
Your video is super fun to watch, I thought of getting a real pinball machine, but to be honest, the prices are insane these days. I hope in the future a manufacturer might do 4K stereoscopic displays for projects like these. Would be absolutely awesome to have a real 3D feel added with haptic response too! For now, making one on your own is great.
Thanks! I have some more reviews on real-world (mini) pinball games coming out soon!
Great video! Will you be doing a 2nd step on the process of installing the software.. ect.?
It was a pretty much just a steam/Zen build. Just goto their website, download the engine, and you can start playing (I think "Sorcerer's Lair" is still free, and it's a great game). You'll need to send them a pic of your rig to get the code for cabinet mode, but other than that, it's a pretty straight forward process. Check out my upcoming series on my 4K vpin build (starting next week!)
Amazing beautiful
Great video! Thanks so much! I am just starting my DIY pinball project.
One thing I want to ask you, that I did not get from the video.
Did you put an extra glass above the playfield monitor?
If you did, does the glass have the same angle as the monitor and do you get any reflections in the glass?
Thank you.
Thanks for the nice words! I do use glass above the playfield; it's real pinball glass I got from Marcos (link below). No, reflections aren't a issue (well, no more than on a real pinball game). Link to the glass I use: www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/660-5001-00
Man you tempting me to just take a crack at it. I have a 27inch ips playfield that was waiting around for my 1up marvel that got cancelled. Great video as usual man 👍
Earth Monster - it really isn't that bad once you've figured out what angle you want the screen to be at. 27" should be nice - same essential size as a 32" in terms of building a table.
@@evilgeniusentertainment nice. I'll see. I have literally everything but the cabinet. Was going to hold out for the Atgames ALP and just run the PC on that, but that's still going to not be here until some time. And this will get me a dedicated fx3 cabinet if successful. I have a 17 and a 19 4:3 monitor for the backglass as well. 🤔
Yeah, that's one of the first things I'm going to test when I get my AG pinball in - how easy/practical is it to run steam? Hopefully Zen doesn't muck up the works in their next version of the software.
I see that OutRun in the corner buddy. I like what I'm seeing! Great video as always. Makes me wish that I did a DIY virtual pinball table myself. Don't have room with the Legends on pre order unfortunately.
Yeah, I just totally rearranged the game shack in anticipation of Legends vpin. And oh yeah, that OUTRUN game is sneaking it's way into my heart.
@@evilgeniusentertainment I LOVE IT!!!!
John are you going to do a future video on how to add your VPX10 and Future Pinball tables to this? What front-end will you use and what settings are recommended?
I do have VPX9/10, but in reality all I ever really play is Zen/Steam. But yeah, I should do a separate, "Now that you have pinball table, here's what to do with it" type video. I mean, if there's any interest in it....
This is an awesome video, I would absolutely love to build my own im confident i could build the cabnet no problem ,but i have 0 understanding of how the electronics work haha
Hey thanks! I think it really wouldn't be too bad, particularly if you just started out with a Steam/Zen cab. Zero programing and essentially just hooking up HDMI & speaker cords. Trying to setup VPX is another thing though....
@@evilgeniusentertainment thanks for the advice , i do want to try it , and again I’m clueless is VPX what makes the buttons work with the game ? I would make nothing fancy just a bare bones machine , have you or anyone ever tried to do a machine with the old Microsoft 3d space cadet theme ? I think that would be kinda neat .
@@Barnanimal94 For my first, proof of concept, build I used a tupperware tub to put the various buttons & USB encoder into. Using a program called "joy 2 key" I then assigned those buttons to the ones that matched up to Steam/Zen. Then I scaled it up....
You can of course also use a AtGame ALP or 4KP to do the same thing....
Very nicely done! Interesting that you went with the same leg bolt pattern Arcade1up is using on their pinball cabinets. Guess it's a very strong solution. Thanks for sharing this.
Thomas - huh, I didn't know that! Well, it is pretty strong - and cheap!
Brother, your being to humble. I know you've swung a hammer to nail on movie sets and props as well! Hope to see more zombie movie parts. Parts!😄😅😆Always interesting and informative hands down. Also, Cheers to you and Brother Warpig!!✌🍻 P.S. M.D.F. board. Lol I work at ACE Hardware. Fancy letters for sawdust and wood glue. 😅😆
Thanks brother! Oh yeah, been on at least 30 shows building sets. No idea you worked at an ACE! MDF ain't so bad, just as long as you understand it's not wood.
Very nice build and also very nice video. Can you tell me how tall is the front of the side panel and the back? And also how wide and tick are the legs.
Do you have a video of the game play with the awow and how good/bad it handles during play...also do you have a video in the wiring setup of the controls/monitors?
Richard - I'm about to re-visit my build of my pinball game this week, so I'll try to address those questions then. I'd say this about the AWOW - it works. You can't max out the visuals (esp for the Williams tables), and it tends to crash, but it works. If you're on a budget (and I was for this build), I'd say it's still an option. BUT if you could swing another $100, I'd go for an upgrade (something w/ an i5 chip).
Great video!! Are you able to provide links and materials you used for this pinball machine?
Santiago - thank you! Far as links go, it's all pretty standard stuff - the cheapest 32" TV I could find at Walmart, aluminum stock from lowes for legs, and an old Dell 20" monitor for the back-glass. Buttons and encoder: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M2X88QP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amp: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HN53NBD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
subwoofer puck: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009RGJ47S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
JVD my ALP just died and out of warranty, possibility the power supper died. Could I buy a 20 LCD TV, remove that ATGames Backbox Monitor and replace it. I could the just plug in from that HDMi slot on the 20 LCD Tv to my dedicated PC right and use it only for VPX use. I'll still use the ALP Body, legs and playfield screen are still fine and can be reused. What brand/wattage power supple would you recommend for my pinball project?
Nice video !!! what's measures ? Thank you
It'll depend mostly on what size TV you're using as the main monitor.... but mine's about 19" wide by about 36" deep. Height will depend on how you place your table legs. I'll be doing a new video on building it as soon as the weather breaks here.....
Do you know the angle the TV... slopes at?
Not off the top of my head. It really is just a matter of choice (primarily if you plan to sit or stand while playing). I've since added longer legs to the machine, and the viewing angle is still just fine, so there's lots of wiggle room in terms of angle.
How to do turn it on with the mini PC inside the cabinet?
It's set to power on when you plug it in. I still have to sign in (no launchbox setup)....
That's kool. How did u program it to do that? I'm also using a mini PC.
Can you tell me how you set the PC to turn on when you plug it in?
@@khmerdogg71 Yeah, I just suffer through and start it like normal.... BUT, there's a program called "launchbox" which should work for you.
Where can I find the software for this type of build?
I just use Pinball FX by Zen. It's in its 4th generation now: zenstudios.com/games/pinball-fx/
Bro, can't end the video not playing the pinball game for us.
Where are the buttons plugged in?
Into a encoder board.
what were the dimensions?
They'll vary depending on what size monitor/TV you end up using. Even assuming 32" TV, there's still great variation in dimensions.
@@evilgeniusentertainment Ah, so hunt and buy TV first... got it...
Dave, I'm building a new 4k vpin right now... I've had the wood & legs for a week; still waiting on the TV before I measure or cut anything! Which is a bit frustrating to be sure (and not super helpful for you), but yeah. BTW, if you're going forward, I'd seriously consider getting a OLED TV/monitor - they are absolutely a game changer in vpin (new vids coming soon!)
@@evilgeniusentertainment I'm new to the VP thing, I looked into like 10 years ago, and it was not very good, so I gave up after a short time but, today, it's looks worlds better and looks almost real with all the sensors to make it feel real.
I am at the point where I am going lay a TV on the floor, use a 3 year old laptop and test to see how it looks. I'll check out your new video when listed..
Dave, that's basically what I did to start - just propped up a TV on a table. First video in the series is (likely) be about just how awesome state of the art vpin really is. Some of the new tables are simply mind blowing. That combined with higher end video card and the new OLED tv's makes those tables really pop. Throw on the solenoid haptics and it's getting very close to being "real".
Please dont cut a straight line free hand. You can crank a straight bar to the plate, using it as a guide for the saw
I could, but then what would happen to my sense of adventure?