Festool does make two different diamond cutters that run on the track for concrete, they're just not available in the US or Canada. Festool also makes diamond blades specifically for the track saws for cutting cement board, so I think it's totally fine to do this.
Since you left the other channel its funny to see the skate content creep in over here... As a skater / engineer / DIYer love it! Currently trying to convince the wife to let me put a ramp in the front yard.
From an old (64yo) skateboarder to a younger one. I am totally stoked 🤙. I feel like getting back on one of my old boards. That festool worked like a champ, keep it up guys it ll make you feel younger!!!
My brother and I used to use 3/32" sheet steel at the bottom of our quarter pipes back in the day to remedy that same transition. It worked pretty good. I miss that man, thanks for the great flood of memories...
I have a 125mm bosch grinder that fits their GDE 125 EA-T dust shroud. You can adjust the cutting depth and straight side will reference along a straight edge for accurate cuts. I think the challenge would be creating a fixed straight edge to act as the guide wheras the festook track solves that. I think your solution was a good one. The reduced diameter of that diamond blade should somewhat offset the toughness of the material being cut with regards to torque needed, so in that regards it might not be too hard on the motor.
This guy is awesome! Can't recommend him enough to my buddies haha and he's got the skateboard skills nice! Would love to see a skateboard video in the future!
I got a soapstone guy who even uses his with water! Sprays it in the path of the cut as he goes. He’s been doing it for years,says he goes through a track saw about every two years
Whenever I cut quartz I just hit up home depot tool rental and throw my concrete blade on it. It's like 25 bucks for 4 hours then I just return it. Beats buying a new one if you're just doing that kind of work here or there
I am 30 years old never got into skating or really tried it to often however now that I am older I wanna try it again and learn. Kind of looks like fun.
It's doable. I do find tho that u get the best at it from about 7 years old to 16. The shorter you are the closer you are to the ground when you fall lol. I'm 28 and used to skate every day and even imagining what I could do back then and trying it now makes me nervous lol
you could do this even with a old circ saw and another person spraying the blade constantly with a spray bottle. its a messy slurry but it would work. probably the cheapest way to do it dust free.
@@markh.6687Nah, we could all learn a thing or two from the Japanese when it comes to construction. Messiness is avoidable, and it's usually worth it.
I purchased a Medusa Concrete Saw from Skill to cut concrete! It works excellent and with the water coolant and a wet dry vac it is dust free. Interesting video - I am glad it’s your track saw and not mine. Owning a proper concrete saw changes your life!
Yikes. Ya, you're crazy. I'm not a Festool fanboi (I'm too poor to join that club), but if I could, I sure as Hell wouldn't have used it to cut concrete. I hope they are a sponsor of your channel! I'll add my two cents here. I've run into the dust problem myself and searched for a solution. In my case, I also wanted a clean horizontal cut in plaster on rocklath (3/8" OG drywall that was a transitional material from wood lath to modern drywall, used, at least in Ontario, from the around the 1940's to early 1970's). I needed to preserve the original hand-made plaster crown moldings during a bathroom renovation, and I wanted a nice, clean, horizontal cut 4" below the molding to butt up the 1/2" drywall I was finishing the wall with. I discovered that Milwaulkee makes a 3" cordless cut off tool that has an integrated dust shroud and a vacuum attachment. They also sell diamond blades that will cut concrete (and plaster). I hooked up my Ridgid shop vac to it, and used both a collection bag and a HEPA filter in the vacuum. In the room, I also used a Corsi-Rosenthal filtration box that I'd build, but it wasn't really needed. It did the job, and it created very little dust, but I was disappointed with how underpowered the Milwaulkee tool was. It's a 12V tool, which just doesn't have enough guts to do the job. I know, not a great alternative to the Festool, right? However, I've since discovered that Dewalt has an almost identical tool in an 18V. Had I known this, I would have bought it instead. I haven't used the Dewalt, but I know from experience that an 18V tool is going to outperform a 12V tool by a wide margin. I'm not married to either of those battery platforms, so from a tool purchase standpoint, the cost was a moot since the prices of the kits (tool, battery, charger) were almost identical. Dewalt also makes a fancy hose and positive locking connection system for their newer tools. Not cheap, but it works better than janky DIY plumbing adapters with gear clamps that cut your hands. Ask me how I know about that "solution"... To get the kerf cut straight on that concrete floor, you could have used a piece of MDF or other stock as your cut guide; taping, hot gluing or otherwise affixing it to the floor. You only really needed the leading edge straight so your hardboard would fit smoothly, and you could have just eyeballed the back edge. Cheers.
So sick Ben, great work. I've never seen someone use this method to avoid the sheet metal transition at the bottom of the ramp, had you seen it done before?
Beautiful... I think "Festool" would approve when accuracy, dust control and durability are needed.... And if you wear out the bushing in one job they replace it... Or do they?
Ben, can you do a video on how to do a RUclips video? it’s so exhausting listening to so many videos that just ramble onnnnnnn, to get to the actual content. A genuine, thank you for what I know must be a lot of preparation and time to give clear, concise instruction. And I do appreciate the humor you throw in there, so thanks for keeping it fun. Like everything else, you crack a joke, then move the hell on. if you could just make a video on every topic in the world, that would be really fantastic for all students!!! 😊
Love this video! Question though, are you worried about that 1/4" skin (mdf?) in contact with concrete? I'd be concerned it would wick up moisture over time and swell up
There is a tool in existance which is a bit more dedicated, it's the Festool DSC-AG 125-Plus-FS. But I'd say you took a good option here. I tend to clean out my (fes)tools after working with highly abrasive dust like in your case here, but I actually never could confirm the necessity after cleaning them out.
Awesome ramp and smooth skate tricks. Was there a reason you didn't want to just use sheet metal at the bottom like you typically see on skate ramps? Love the creativity with chipping out the concrete though to give you the perfect flush transition.
@vancouvercarpenter oh yeah the way you did it definitely gives you the smoothest transition. I wonder if we'll see more like this in future builds at skate parks.
havent skated since i was 19 and i remember using the crappy tools that were just laying around to build everything. if i still skated today i wonder what i could build with much better tools and all the knowledge that is out there now vs some know it all teenaged friends or a book you bought for $10 from the skate shop
since you like to do things the hard way I'm surprised you didn't just attach the ramp and then fill the place up with another quarter inch of concrete. hope you sealed the wood underneath or the cutout to block the moisture that will eventually come up from the cement.
You just wanna show off your Festool.. Next we will see a title like "Should I use my Festool Domino to add a deck to my quarter pipe?" 🤣🤣 LOL. "The taper cant fix it" that made me bust a gut.
Do you have a review of the tool you just used? I have a small shop and a table saw feels like it would take up space and that looks like a good solution.
This is an excellent saw. I have had one for around 15 years and I still use it to break down plywood into more manageable pieces. The dust extraction is excellent too!
I would've used my dewalt cut off tool with the vacuum attachment and a straight piece of wood or metal as a guide. It wouldn't have been any easier though, just less painful lol.
I originally came here to clutch my pearls and say "Daddy Ben, Noooo!!" But I have to admit, aside from the track needing new plastic, that was way more ideal than any concrete cutting I've ever done.
It’s a tool for business in your case not a hobby. Just price in the wear and tear appropriately as a part of your quote. Tools in the trade are intended to be used.
Hm won't claim that this is a better or faster solution, but not having a track saw or a dust extractor I probably would've ended up tenting the area and using a shopvac, which sounds like an enormous pain.
😱😳 Bennn! Ahhh! I probably woulda just used old skilsaw and wet the blade tiny bit while cutting or used just reg skilsaw with dustport. No way using a good track saw, but I know you got that one for free and dont seem to have much use for it 😆💕👍
Great cut, Nice to see your not so precious. Well of course not, Your a Canadian for crying out loud! But what was that drill bit you were using? Nice 1/4 pipe grinds, ya still got it!
If it works, it works! Just blow out your tools to get rid of that harsh concrete dust. Why not use a thin metal sheet at the bottom? Wouldnt have to cut into the concrete that way?
You could have enclosed the area with poly and controlled the dust that way, particulary if you've got an air scrubber. Red Green is right. Any tool can be the right tool. Using a $900 track saw and a $1000 hepa vac to cut concrete might be a bit of overkill, but it got the job done.
Crazy? Nah, I picked up a diamond saw blade from Home Depot and cut a ton of retaining blocks to shape them with my old cheapie B&D circular saw. I was expecting the saw to die but it chugged right through it. Got a tad warm at times though :D
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Ben, you dont need a new splinter guard, you can just peel it off and move it out slightly! You can do this 2-3 before you need to replace it.
Excellent tip, thank you!!!
Thank you!!
Totally. I just did that on mine yesterday, to get a more accurate cut.
that’s what i thought. and i also thought why don’t sharpening the edge of the thin mdf hdf or whatever layer to avoid cutting concrete??
I don’t have problem bending over, it’s standing up straight afterwards.
My back hurts just watching this....
could have knelt on the skateboard and had someone slowly push for the cuts, would have looked rad for the video as well!
Festool does make two different diamond cutters that run on the track for concrete, they're just not available in the US or Canada. Festool also makes diamond blades specifically for the track saws for cutting cement board, so I think it's totally fine to do this.
Since you left the other channel its funny to see the skate content creep in over here... As a skater / engineer / DIYer love it! Currently trying to convince the wife to let me put a ramp in the front yard.
Hahaha. Front yard ramp is a big ask.
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From an old (64yo) skateboarder to a younger one. I am totally stoked 🤙. I feel like getting back on one of my old boards. That festool worked like a champ, keep it up guys it ll make you feel younger!!!
I think you tackled that the best way possible💪🏽 great stuff!
Usually they just use metal for concrete to ramp transition. That's a good idea though. Let's go big BEN!👏👏👏👏👏
My brother and I used to use 3/32" sheet steel at the bottom of our quarter pipes back in the day to remedy that same transition. It worked pretty good. I miss that man, thanks for the great flood of memories...
We did this so we don’t have to use the sheet metal. No more clang clang!
I have a 125mm bosch grinder that fits their GDE 125 EA-T dust shroud. You can adjust the cutting depth and straight side will reference along a straight edge for accurate cuts. I think the challenge would be creating a fixed straight edge to act as the guide wheras the festook track solves that. I think your solution was a good one. The reduced diameter of that diamond blade should somewhat offset the toughness of the material being cut with regards to torque needed, so in that regards it might not be too hard on the motor.
OK DUDE, I had to double take seeing you FS Smith off the top! Big props to the attention to detail making this transition butter smooth!
I’ve done concrete grinding with a Milwaukee circular saw, and dewalt 4” grinder - both attached with the festool for extraction. Works great!
Love this! Super tech, super resourceful
Good surprise for me! Let's skate!!! Congratulations!!
This guy is awesome! Can't recommend him enough to my buddies haha and he's got the skateboard skills nice! Would love to see a skateboard video in the future!
Definitely the best application for a Festool investment.
Congratulations!
dust in tracksaws is fiiiiiiiine. you can use 'em for stone & quartz countertops too.
I’d like to know what exactly should i look for in a blade if I want to use my makita plunge saw on quartz countertop
I got a soapstone guy who even uses his with water! Sprays it in the path of the cut as he goes.
He’s been doing it for years,says he goes through a track saw about every two years
Whenever I cut quartz I just hit up home depot tool rental and throw my concrete blade on it. It's like 25 bucks for 4 hours then I just return it. Beats buying a new one if you're just doing that kind of work here or there
Good job homie, good to see you skate bra
wow this man does it all
This is actually sick mad respect 🤙🏼
there is the 3" dewalt cut-off tool now.. very good dust collection.
Came out sweet perfect tool for the job, the transition is flawless
I am 30 years old never got into skating or really tried it to often however now that I am older I wanna try it again and learn. Kind of looks like fun.
It's doable. I do find tho that u get the best at it from about 7 years old to 16. The shorter you are the closer you are to the ground when you fall lol. I'm 28 and used to skate every day and even imagining what I could do back then and trying it now makes me nervous lol
You can always get the job done with what you have and ingenuity
Pretty good my man.
Hey you skate pretty good too!
you could do this even with a old circ saw and another person spraying the blade constantly with a spray bottle. its a messy slurry but it would work. probably the cheapest way to do it dust free.
Too messy. This worked great.
@@vancouvercarpenter Construction is SUPPOSED to be messy at certain points. If it isn't, you're doing it wrong. :)
@@markh.6687Nah, we could all learn a thing or two from the Japanese when it comes to construction. Messiness is avoidable, and it's usually worth it.
That doesn't work worth a shit. Trust me, I've tried it. And yeah, it creates a friggin' mess.
Holy crap! My two worlds are colliding!
Not only do you get to work there but you also get to skate with a legend! I’m so jealous!
0:58 you weren't one of those drywallers, were you? :D
A red dragon vaccuum? 😂😂😂 Love it, skate on
We use Festtool at work. Their tool vac system is great.
perfectionism to another level.
I purchased a Medusa Concrete Saw from Skill to cut concrete! It works excellent and with the water coolant and a wet dry vac it is dust free. Interesting video - I am glad it’s your track saw and not mine.
Owning a proper concrete saw changes your life!
Yup; you take on jobs you shouldn't do just to use the saw! :)
The makita 4100KB has a track saw adapter and I think it would have given you the same results. I like it for cutting countertops in finishes homes
Oh snap he shreds too!
Yikes.
Ya, you're crazy. I'm not a Festool fanboi (I'm too poor to join that club), but if I could, I sure as Hell wouldn't have used it to cut concrete. I hope they are a sponsor of your channel!
I'll add my two cents here. I've run into the dust problem myself and searched for a solution. In my case, I also wanted a clean horizontal cut in plaster on rocklath (3/8" OG drywall that was a transitional material from wood lath to modern drywall, used, at least in Ontario, from the around the 1940's to early 1970's). I needed to preserve the original hand-made plaster crown moldings during a bathroom renovation, and I wanted a nice, clean, horizontal cut 4" below the molding to butt up the 1/2" drywall I was finishing the wall with.
I discovered that Milwaulkee makes a 3" cordless cut off tool that has an integrated dust shroud and a vacuum attachment. They also sell diamond blades that will cut concrete (and plaster). I hooked up my Ridgid shop vac to it, and used both a collection bag and a HEPA filter in the vacuum. In the room, I also used a Corsi-Rosenthal filtration box that I'd build, but it wasn't really needed.
It did the job, and it created very little dust, but I was disappointed with how underpowered the Milwaulkee tool was. It's a 12V tool, which just doesn't have enough guts to do the job. I know, not a great alternative to the Festool, right?
However, I've since discovered that Dewalt has an almost identical tool in an 18V. Had I known this, I would have bought it instead. I haven't used the Dewalt, but I know from experience that an 18V tool is going to outperform a 12V tool by a wide margin. I'm not married to either of those battery platforms, so from a tool purchase standpoint, the cost was a moot since the prices of the kits (tool, battery, charger) were almost identical.
Dewalt also makes a fancy hose and positive locking connection system for their newer tools. Not cheap, but it works better than janky DIY plumbing adapters with gear clamps that cut your hands. Ask me how I know about that "solution"...
To get the kerf cut straight on that concrete floor, you could have used a piece of MDF or other stock as your cut guide; taping, hot gluing or otherwise affixing it to the floor. You only really needed the leading edge straight so your hardboard would fit smoothly, and you could have just eyeballed the back edge.
Cheers.
So sick Ben, great work. I've never seen someone use this method to avoid the sheet metal transition at the bottom of the ramp, had you seen it done before?
Nope.
@@vancouvercarpenter from now on known as the “DeGros transition”!
Hilti has a Cut Off Saw specially for concrete.
Here in the Uk we have used a Metabo MFE 40 Wall Chaser to do this kind of work
Beautiful... I think "Festool" would approve when accuracy, dust control and durability are needed.... And if you wear out the bushing in one job they replace it... Or do they?
I guess as long as it doesn't get bound up with concrete dust it's fine. Nicely done.
Ben, can you do a video on how to do a RUclips video? it’s so exhausting listening to so many videos that just ramble onnnnnnn, to get to the actual content.
A genuine, thank you for what I know must be a lot of preparation and time to give clear, concise instruction. And I do appreciate the humor you throw in there, so thanks for keeping it fun. Like everything else, you crack a joke, then move the hell on. if you could just make a video on every topic in the world, that would be really fantastic for all students!!! 😊
My advice for RUclips videos. Don’t put anything you wouldn’t watch in your videos. Simple as that.
Did you consider bedding the masonite edge to the concrete with some PL adhesive? Just to ensure it doesn't lift.
Love this video! Question though, are you worried about that 1/4" skin (mdf?) in contact with concrete? I'd be concerned it would wick up moisture over time and swell up
It’s skate lite. Completely water proof. Look it up.
@@vancouvercarpenter Oh nice hadn't heard of it, looks like an awesome material. Thanks for the response!
10/10 and better skateboard moves than me!
There is a tool in existance which is a bit more dedicated, it's the Festool DSC-AG 125-Plus-FS. But I'd say you took a good option here. I tend to clean out my (fes)tools after working with highly abrasive dust like in your case here, but I actually never could confirm the necessity after cleaning them out.
Awesome ramp and smooth skate tricks. Was there a reason you didn't want to just use sheet metal at the bottom like you typically see on skate ramps? Love the creativity with chipping out the concrete though to give you the perfect flush transition.
Because it’s noisy and doesn’t feel good.
@vancouvercarpenter oh yeah the way you did it definitely gives you the smoothest transition. I wonder if we'll see more like this in future builds at skate parks.
Sick that’s my dream project as a skater
Would there be any value to laying a bead of some sort of caulk or concrete sealer glop along the joint between the concrete and the curved board?
HE MAKES IT LOOK EASY WHILE GETTIN STEEZY
havent skated since i was 19 and i remember using the crappy tools that were just laying around to build everything. if i still skated today i wonder what i could build with much better tools and all the knowledge that is out there now vs some know it all teenaged friends or a book you bought for $10 from the skate shop
what type of fasteners did you use to secure that wood
That worked well, and actually was a pretty smart idea. Not sure I'd have thought to do it this way. Good thinking Can*AE*dians.
Got a rubi tracksaw basically a grinder in circular saw form
Nice creative
since you like to do things the hard way I'm surprised you didn't just attach the ramp and then fill the place up with another quarter inch of concrete. hope you sealed the wood underneath or the cutout to block the moisture that will eventually come up from the cement.
You just wanna show off your Festool.. Next we will see a title like "Should I use my Festool Domino to add a deck to my quarter pipe?" 🤣🤣
LOL. "The taper cant fix it" that made me bust a gut.
Perfect as always 👍🏼
Do a blunt off the festool 😂 👌🏻
Do you have a review of the tool you just used? I have a small shop and a table saw feels like it would take up space and that looks like a good solution.
I have made a couple videos about it.
@@vancouvercarpenter ahh. I’ll go dig for it.
This is an excellent saw. I have had one for around 15 years and I still use it to break down plywood into more manageable pieces. The dust extraction is excellent too!
I would've used my dewalt cut off tool with the vacuum attachment and a straight piece of wood or metal as a guide. It wouldn't have been any easier though, just less painful lol.
good way to defeat the cilica dust in the concrete, and lime
I originally came here to clutch my pearls and say "Daddy Ben, Noooo!!" But I have to admit, aside from the track needing new plastic, that was way more ideal than any concrete cutting I've ever done.
I wish i could skateboard 😢. I have two left feet cant even walk properly sometimes 😂
What I have watched about 20 or 30 maybe more of your videos I didn't know you could skateboard.
You should use a ryobi for this
That backside 180 nosegrind was unexpected! I thought you were going to 50-50 it. 👍
Nope. Full send 😉
That's it, I'm getting back on my board
clients were happy. Single handed dust supression. fresh cheapy cheapo blade per cut may be thinner.
It’s a tool for business in your case not a hobby. Just price in the wear and tear appropriately as a part of your quote. Tools in the trade are intended to be used.
Me outwards: Hey whatever gets the job done!
Me inside: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHGJGJKFKDLD 😂
Hm won't claim that this is a better or faster solution, but not having a track saw or a dust extractor I probably would've ended up tenting the area and using a shopvac, which sounds like an enormous pain.
You ride that board pretty good and even at your age 😂
😱😳 Bennn! Ahhh! I probably woulda just used old skilsaw and wet the blade tiny bit while cutting or used just reg skilsaw with dustport. No way using a good track saw, but I know you got that one for free and dont seem to have much use for it 😆💕👍
Neither of those methods would have been adequate for the space. No water, no dust.
You're crazy for having a festool 😂😂😂
yes you're crazy.. so am I, I did nearly the same thing with mine! lol
Are you a skate vlogger? I swear I’ve seen you before.
Great cut, Nice to see your not so precious. Well of course not, Your a Canadian for crying out loud! But what was that drill bit you were using? Nice 1/4 pipe grinds, ya still got it!
Knew you wouldn’t leave us with no skate clips, thank you
I bet a lot of you don't know Ben is a super good skater.
Beware that using an abrasive cut-off blade in a miter box saw doesn't go as well. All the burning sparks kind of screw up everything they hit.
Were the drywallers you?😂
Me and my buddys solved this issue years ago, we got bicycles!
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The plastic on my festool track guide has been hacked to pieces for about 4 years. The saw still cuts straight as an arrow tho 🇨🇦👍
That 'guide' is to help prevent material splintering. It's got nothing to do with straight cutting.
You did all that just for a smooth transition? Why not just plane down the bottom edge of the plywood?
If it works, it works!
Just blow out your tools to get rid of that harsh concrete dust.
Why not use a thin metal sheet at the bottom? Wouldnt have to cut into the concrete that way?
Maybe you could put a piece of sheet metal at the bottom of the ramp to make a smooth transition.
That’s the standard. We wanted to do something better. Now it doesn’t go clang clang
You could have enclosed the area with poly and controlled the dust that way, particulary if you've got an air scrubber. Red Green is right. Any tool can be the right tool. Using a $900 track saw and a $1000 hepa vac to cut concrete might be a bit of overkill, but it got the job done.
I probably would've just done it wet. I keep a diamond blade (can be used wet or dry) in an old corded saw for this.
GFCI....optional.
I'd have used my lazor beams to cut out the concrete. That way I could have yelled out "Imma chargin' my lazors!" before doing the job. :)
Ok, WHAT? We're cutting concrete with the track saw and also landing bangers???
hellyee
Why wouldn't you just use sheet metal at the bottom?
I did this year's ago, smoked my saw
Crazy? Nah, I picked up a diamond saw blade from Home Depot and cut a ton of retaining blocks to shape them with my old cheapie B&D circular saw. I was expecting the saw to die but it chugged right through it. Got a tad warm at times though :D
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No one saw it coming, but looking back on it, maybe using the Festool to cut concrete was a cry for help….
😂
🙏👏👍💪
I think he just made this video to show off his skills on a skateboard lol