Is Cessationism Heresy? - Interview with Daniel Kolenda
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- Daniel Kolenda confronts cessationism, asserting the continuation of spiritual gifts, and discussing misconceptions, alongside Alan DiDio.
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😇This is the scripture comes to mind when i think of our cessationist brothers....ACTS 19...."Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" They answered, "No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit." So Paul asked, "Then what baptism did you receive?" "John's baptism," they replied. Paul said, "John's baptism was a baptism of repentance.
I think those are two different but related issues. One was a salvation issue (being born again by the indwelling of the spirit) and the other, public display of charisma gifts. The two are not synonymous, but on occasion, as in the acts, concurrent.
But you don't need the gift of tongues to prove you are Spirit filled/born again, nor does speaking in tongues prove you are born again/spirit filled (even witches and spiritists are capable of such ecstatic utterances.)
Not everyone gets that gift or even wants it.
I’ve watched many hours of Derek Prince and Lester Sumrall. Nobody can say they were wrong!
I can say they're wrong on certain points/doctrine's, but who isn't? The key is were they Preaching faithfully?
Amen! Two of my favorites!!
Lester Sumrall - One of the stories told to Lester and is written in the books is told by Smith Wigglesworth. Smith Wigglesworth says he was having a healing prayer line. There was a man there with his Doctor who was dying of stomach cancer. Smith Wigglesworth was told by the Spirit to punch the man in the stomach as hard as he could, did so, and the man died??? The Doctor shouted, “You killed him! We will sue you!” Smith Wigglesworth just kept walking, and shouted back with his accent, “He’s healed!” The man who had died then came back to life, healed, excited, and thanked Smith Wigglesworth for praying for him. Satan does not do real creative miracles like God does!
Im so glad y'all did this interview. I just recently saw a video by Justin Peters where he was literally mocking Paster Troy Brewer, who is such a kind hearted man of God doing so much good in the world. It was disturbing and sad to see this going on. I had no idea there were "Christians" who are so anti-everything. So many of the comments were just hateful and nasty. 😢
I watched that video also, and I had to stop it , because Pastor Troy is doing God’s work for the kingdom! He just sounded hateful. Sad😟
Amen. Do not let these prideful teachers make you mad. These creationist are in grave danger of having their hearts hardened by the Lord. They remind me of the pharisees. I have tried reaching out to them to no avail. I pray for them but I must also speak up against them. I saw that one mocking Troy also and it was hard to watch. I actually see that he was manifesting a demon while mocking troy so wickedly. I do not even blame the person as much as I blame Satan and I hate to see a brother so lost but they are choosing to work against Jesus. I never hear them preach salvation either.
I saw this too! He seems like a vicious man. We need to pray for him. His whole ministry is tearing down other Christians.
Yes, we need to pray for him. I feel nothing but hate and judgment from him. I pray he repents.
I confess...I have a strong dislike for Justin Peters. His understanding of the great commission is James 4:11... instead of NOT speaking against a brother, he does so for the WHOLE pagan world to see. If you are busy about your Father's business, you wouldn't be casting dispersions on your brother in front of the entire world.
Great discussion. DK has done a great job in presenting the continuationist view and refuting cessationism.
Yes the Holy Spirit is here and working
Daniel kolanda's explanations are awesome! I wonder how they can be so blind to the word of God.
Some are ignorant. Some have a form of godliness while denying the power.
I try not to judge others or listen to hatful people. I am a charismatic but didn’t use my gifts for 30 years because it was wrong in my church. God spoke to me and I use everything everyday!😍
Absolutely great content. I have listened to Daniel Kolenda's addressing this issue and I truly hope that he puts his research in a book.
BTW CESSATIONISM ..spelling
Such a great discussion 👏 I was raised in a Baptist church and the Pentecostal church scared me if I'm honest. People flailing and falling and speaking gibberish, BUT as an adult who loves God's word and believes it to be 100% true, I DO believe in the gifts of the spirit and His work THROUGH us. I have asked the Lord for the gift of tongues, but so far it hasn't happened. I DON'T believe that you just speak gibberish out of emotion though. I believe it MUST come from God. In any event, I don't understand why Christians deny what is clearly taught in God's word. I also believe that we're coming into a time of great outpouring of God's spirit, so maybe that's why the attacks are increasing?? Thank you for this discussion! It was needed! Ps. I don't believe every charismatic is truly exhibiting God given gifts either. I believe some are frauds for personal gain, but the extreme the other way is just as bad and damaging.
I did not speak in tongues until after my water baptism at almost age 50. I was saved at age 15! I never got baptized. I had been baptized in the Holy Spirit but not in fire.
I so enjoy talking to God in tongues. I was 7 years old when I accepted Jesus as my Lord and saviour.
jacquelyniggy85 I want to encourage to cotinue to belive God that you will speak in tongues. I did'nt speak in tongues right away. One evening I was praysing God. Instead english comeing out an unknown language came roling out keep on trusting God. Just keep on thanking Him. When strange words come to spirit or in mind. Or you feel a sensation in you belly give voice to it.
In the 80's I went through a period where some powerful people were trying to falsely accuse me. I prayed in tongues daily because there is no way to know everything that those who work for Satan are doing against you. The Holy Spirit knew what they were doing in secret. I poured my heart out to God.
I didn't know if praying in tongues was making any difference because I didn't know anyone who had first hand experience in praying when your back is actually against the wall.
I reached a point where it looked like there was no longer any point in praying so I immediately stopped praying for God's deliverance. Within moments of reaching that point a series of events that defied all odds began happening and they kept happening for days afterward. I was brought to tears because so many things were happening in such a short period that it became obvious that God was intervening in my life.
Don’t ask for the gift of tongues- ask to receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost, the tongues come with it😊
This is a gift promised to us by Jesus Christ, but you do have to hunger and thirst for it 🔥
These cessationists grieve my heart… 💔
The reason they don’t believe in the gifts is that they are uncomfortable with it.
There are some Cessationists who mean well. But I think a majority are trying to "evangelize" Christians out of Christianity. They are more concerned about creating divisions in the Church than at winning souls from the outside World.
It's clear to see who means well. You head over to Paul Washer's channel, it's full of evangelism and teachings. You head over to others' channels, it's all about poking holes in others' doctrines.
It’s very hard for me to watch or listen when they speak because it’s hard for me to believe they think that. For someone unchurched their entire life like myself then radically saved and delivered the gifts just come natural and it’s what the Bible says. I don’t need manmade religion to throw a wet blanket on the fire of God. Get out of here with all that.
Is it that, or are the practices we see, are unbiblical?
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These signs WILL follow those that believe. Mark 16:17
So if the signs are not following… it begs a question. Do we not believe?
It continues in vs 20
And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs.
It’s hard to get people to believe without the signs they go hand-in-hand it is what the word says .
I saw this one coming. I used it for 14yrs out of its true context.
You see, we have a motto here.
“I can do all things with a verse taken out of context”.
So, let me ask you kindly: when you say “signs will follow”, what do you interpret that to mean.
I’ll be waiting.
Remember, only chapter and verses please. No feelings. Thank you
I’ve been studying the early church fathers for the past 3 months for this very reason. This dropped at such an amazing time! It’s good to be spirit filled!🔥
I think Rod Saunders (Jew and Greek), is a very good Christian Apologist. He does a good job defending continuationism.
I appreciate this presentation very much. I get tired of Justin Peter's constant lambasting and lampooning of the position of continuationism and armenianism.
What jumps off the page to me is this: how can MacArthur be so passionate against women speaking in the church or the trans/gay crowd attempting to change scripture to fit their narrative, while he does the exact same, even worse, as he claims signs and wonders have ceased? He aspires to make about 1/3 of the new testament impotent. How blind of him not to see the absolute hypocrisy of this. When confronted, he just speaks louder and more condescendingly. Thank you for exposing them.
He's worse they act out of ignorance,he purposely closes his mind he serves his pride not the Lord
MacArthur is gone now, and the relevancy of most of his teaching is passing away as well😮
@@stevecimini5733 I believe he's still alive
Wow! This is great! Been waiting for this for a long time. Thanks Daniel. Great job Alan. Shaun, South Africa 🇿🇦
Watching from Greece. God bless you, love Daniel's ministry!! Have been a partner of CFAN for years. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
It was one of the best interviews. you've ever had. .. Daniel Kalenda has the heart of God .. When God brings a world wide revival ..please pray
God bless for Mccarthy...I pray for mercy God will have mercy...but He seems cold and he reminds me of the men or false priest who helped nail Christ to the cross .. they actually thought they knew more than Christ... very sad, . . Thank you for having him on and getting that message out , very timely, excellent job.
You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom of God. They have not entered the Kingdom, it talks about in scripture how some will refuse to enter and hinder others who desire to. The Kingdom of God is at hand. I am glad I listened to this.
Cessationism is an end time doctrine of demons…
Dr Jerry Savelle had his funeral yesterday. I watched it online. It was beautiful. I ran through into a video made by Justin Peters a day after Jerry died. The video was condemning Jerry to judgment. I was and still am very angry about it.
That came up in my feed too and I quickly scrolled right past it.
There are so many religious idiots out there, jealous and desperate for notoriety. I saw the same garbage and quickly deleted it! These guys are significantly influenced by seductive religious spirits......
Forgive him and move on brother. The Lord in His own time will deal with him. And I trust it will be a revelation of God's truth.
Justin peters is warped and a chip on his shoulder for not getting healed.
I saw that too. I didn’t listen Tagged Peters and suggested he think about those grieving. Then I told RUclips to not recommend his channel, ick
I'm pentecostal. I think that some charismatics don't have solid doctrine and they don't always have discernment. We need both.
YES! I was waiting for someone to say that. Doctrine is so very important, and we also need it to grow in our Faith. When it comes to Doctrine, I never listen to or read books written by Pentecostals / Charismatics because many are just too liberal.
Dr.KENNETH HAGIN ACCURATELY SAID…I WOULD RATHER HAVE A LITTLE WILD FIRE THAN HAVE NO FIRE AT ALL.SELAH AND SELAH DR.BRYANT LANE.
This is my pastor. I'm so glad he's taking a stand and speaking up!!!🕊
The greatest lie that the enemy would want people to believe is that healing, gift of tongues, moves of the Holy Spirit is no longer there. The enemy steals the word to God. :(
Speaking in tongues actually makes no sense to the mind. It sounds like gibberish but is NOT. It actually builds you up & edifies you.
I appreciate this discussion and presentation of cessationism. I was married to a man who loved Jesus with his whole heart and had a huge influence in our community, but he was a Calvinist. The interesting and difficult part of that belief system was, once you are saved, you are always saved. Doesn't matter how you live, how you present the gospel of Jesus Christ, you are going to heaven no matter what. No growing spiritually, no need to read and understand scripture, no accountability; the list goes on. Plus each individual is responsible for saving people who are not saved. Discernment and listening to Holy Spirit is frowned upon. Half of his family was Southern Baptist and the other half Church of Christ. Loving caring family, until it came to God, the work of the cross and the infilling of the Holy Spirit; then it was all out war to who was right. One of the largest churches in our community was know for their meanness and judgmental ways. Precious people, but so led astray. I know my husband is in heaven, I've seen him there.
You have the wrong view of Calvinism dear, that's not what Calvinism means. It's this way a true saved Christian lives like Jesus, he doesn't wallow in sin and that's how you know someone is truly saved. So don't get it wrong.
Calvin was not a calvinist!
It is not spirit led and is legalistic and cult like.
It attacks the character and love of God
Isogetical rather than exogetical.🙏✝️💗👍
Too blessed and much required discussion at this point - especially in this hour !!!… our LORD YESHUA be glorified always ✝️♥️✌️
I came out of the Lutheran Church 35 years ago and I’m now a charismatic pastor. I have found we will never be able to make the impact we are supposed to make without the Holy Ghost and power
What a Powerful Discussion! The Word of God is Living and Powerful and The Spirit of The Living God continues to Move throughout the World with Power and Authority! I Appreciate Evangelist/Pastor Kolenda having the Boldness to confront these Weighty Issues by using the Word of God and presenting Sound Theological defense for The Continuation of The Spiritual Gifts! This is So Necessary for The Edification of The Body of Christ!!!
Blessings Daniel
Y'all did not just slide an episode III Obi-Wan Highground clip into that interview 😂😂😂😂😂 this is why we are family 🔥✝️🙌🏽
Love and praying for you!
I so appreciate this discussion! I have noticed that those people who do not operate in the gifts of the Spirit, seem to lack passion in reaching the lost. The things that they occupy themselves with, which they call ministry, is really nothing more than busyness; there is no transformation of those being brought from death to Life. Daniel, you amaze me, or should I say the Lord in you amazes me. I think it was in 2017, I was at "One Thing" in Kansas City. You and Reinhart were there, sharing about the mantle which Reinhardt held, being passed on to you; because of the deep level of humility through which you served the Lord. I hold much aspiration for that which the Lord has called you to and I'm amazed that you were able to take time for this interview. Thank you for that! It was good to see you! 😊
Thank you for this, Bishop and Pastor Kelenda, this interview is truly on Another Level , it open my eyes and understanding on Cessationism ...
Well this is eye opening…..
I hadn’t ever heard this word cessationism explained before. When I would come across these men on RUclips I delete their channel because I don’t want to hear anyone who doesn’t believe in the whole scriptures. Simple.
Then I had a long conversation with someone who believes this way ( still not knowing the word associated with his beliefs) and I really couldn’t get a word in edgewise. When I did he couldn’t comprehend what I was saying. “I think I see what you are trying to say” is what he would say. But then his biggest hang up was he couldn’t hear what I was saying was because I was a woman 😢
Hey guys, min 2:55 someone spelled “cessationists” as secessionists
A lot of people who call out false people are in error themselves .
Interesting. Was Paul in error? What about Christ?
The cessasionists are missing out big time! Knowling God's fullness is available today - what a blessing!!! What grace!!!
Praise Hod! I was at Brownsville❤ What a BLESSING❣️❣️❣️
Amen Brother from South Africa Albert Falls Daniel good to see you
Daniel Kolenda's teaching on this should be in every Bible collage
I appreciate what Daniel Kolenda is saying.
I really had issues hearing such vehement wrath from cessationists.
1 Bible verse really ends cessationism.
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.
If cessationism is true that verse is wrong.
If cessationism is true they are saying that Jesus healed yesterday but not today.
We know that verse is very true.
Rather when we don't see healing we need to ask, what are we doing to not receive God's best.
Are we being a hindrance to the holy spirit?
So you cherry pick one verse, try to apply it against cessationism,, and that’s your argument. I have news for you:
1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Charity never faileth: but *_whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away._*
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy *_in part._*
10 *_But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away._*
*_That which is in part has been done away because that which is perfect has come: The Word Of God, The Holy Bible_*
Revelation 21:5-8
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, *_Behold, I make all things new._* And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, *_It is done._* I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. *_I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely._*
7 *_He that overcometh_* shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 *_But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death._*
“If cessationism is true, they are saying that Jesus healed yesterday, but not today”
This proves you don’t even know the definition of cessationism.
Cessationism - a doctrine that spiritual gifts, such as speaking in tongues, prophecy, and healing ceased with the Apostolic Age.
*_If says absolutely nothing about what Jesus or the Holy Spirit can do. It means YOU don’t have those gifts._*
@@michaelseay9783 May the Holy Spirit direct our conversation here, my brother. I don't see the first brother's reply as "cherry picking" at all. He is showing the consistency of how the Lord works within His own Church. The Lord is the same forever, and this is not debatable. But He never says that He will give His gifts to His Church only as an appetizer and then recall them when the Church continues to need them the most - as in our current deceptive age.
The "perfect" that Paul is referring to, is so clearly shown the to be the Perfect that John is referring to in Revelation - the New Heaven and New Earth, when all of these gifts will no longer be needed because we will be in the majestic presence of the Lord Himself! We will no longer need healing, or gift of perception or prophetic word(s) or praying in tongues for edification. The bible never teaches that God gave the gifts of the Holy Spirit ONLY for the Apostles, but for the entire Church, His Bride, to equip her and strengthen her for the work of discipling. If a Church stopped desiring or using the gifts, that was OUR OWN choice, not God's choice.
In other words, if you are afraid that God is not going to respond to your prayer in an open and obvious way that others can see, then you will more likely refuse to make ANY claims that He would answer your prayer because you don't want to look foolish, or have to "defend God." I hope you understand what I mean, my brother. But if you stand on God's Word that He has poured out His Spirit upon all flesh (i.e. all believers) then you have to also risk being laughed at by others who don't believe in a supernatural God doing supernatural things, for His own glory as well as for the benefit of others.
All I'm asking is that you don't just lash out at me - using scripture to fight other scripture, but allow the Lord to be the Lord is His own Church. I love listening to Voddie Baucham and John Macarthur and many other Calvinists, but they and their followers seem to think that the Holy Spirit has given them ONE GIFT - that of judging/condemning others in the Body. We could all learn from Paul in Romans chapter 14, and be guided by love for the Body rather than loyalty to a denomination/theologian, etc.
I know a Pastor who did not bow to Covid, Dr Rodney Howard- Browne
He is totally spiritual filled.
Every Christian is filled with the holy sprit when they get saved
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1. When you are unsaved the Holy Spirit is with you trying to convict you to lead you to Christ.
2. When you are born again the Holy Spirit is in you
3. When you are baptized in the Holy Spirit he is upon you.
When I said Rodney is overflowing with the Holy Spirit I was referring to #3
I honestly think we need to stop calling ourselves part of the "Charismatic movement". There is a misconception that the word Charismatic means "in power" when the original translation of the word means Christ like. What we call charismatic church is the church Jesus called us to be. We are just the body of Christ. The word has gotten to be like a bad word for many who have been fooled by the devils lies. Talk about tickling their ears! Thanks again guys. This is a fantastic talk and we need to start doing damage control as the creationists are out for not just our blood but the blood of believers everywhere who might listen to them and be encouraged to deny the Holy Spirit or even mock others and even yes to blasphemy the Holy Spirt in some cases. It is antichrist and I have seen that spirit in some of those videos. Hostility and making fun of others is not the way of Christs love.
Good point. :-)
This was so good!! Thank you for sharing and standing up for the charismatics!
Absolute gold 🔥🔥🔥
Great teaching. Thanks for always explaining things in a biblical context.
❤THANK YOU for this video!!! Very useful & Edifying!
Some people really want to build furniture without power tools... 😅
Huh?
I think the Pharisees of Jesus’ day were very much like the cessationists of today.
Not much has changed. What happened to religious Israel when they found themselves fighting against God?…not a good place.
I've watched all of Daniel's series on this and it is well worth the time and well done.
This was so good!
If Paul preached a gospel with gifts of the Holy Spirit and then admonished against a different gospel then cessationism is accursed. He asserted that power accompanied the gospel with way more importance than words. The Kingdom of God does not consist of words, but in power. I Corinthians 4:20.
Great episode!
Daniel has done tremendeous research and his series is fire! I watched every episode and was eagerly waiting for another one to come each time. I defiitely recommed his series to all people who love Jesus and understand what part Holy Spirit takes in a life of a Christian.
Great discussion!!
Excellent interview!! So thankful for Daniel Kolenda's willingness to boldly address the constant barrage of onging and blatantly unbiblical accusations against the work of the Holy Spirit. (There were a couple times cessationism was spelled wrong... must of been a late night for the video editor 😅)
This is great!❤
We have modern miricals that occur.
Native tribe members,that their language has gone extinct.
In a restaurant, a lady spoke the blessing over the food in the tongues.
After a Native from the lost tribe, he told her how beautiful of prayer she had spoken in his lost language, which had been extinct for years.
This type of sign has been witnessed before in modern times.
Hallelujah, More outpouring of the gifts of the Holy Spirit will manifest in this endtime. (Acts 2:17-21)
Thank you✝️💟
I appreciate you brothers sharing the truth and addressing this issue. I've had to deal with this in my life, and I hate to see people attacking the Holy Spirit and those filled with the spirit. God bless.
As a Christian, I have yet to find in the Bible where the gifts ended with JESUS or the Disciples.
I have seen the power of prayer. My husband was hospitalized on a Monday in almost total kidney failure. For 3 days he didn't even recognize me or his friend of 25 yrs. I reached out to our church for prayer and they started a prayer chain involving 7 churches in the area. He drove himself home on Friday afternoon.
I was hospitalized and incubated for 12 days with double Pneumonia with fevers over 104. Three times they told my husband they were losing me. He had already reached out to the church. After 23 days in the hospital, I was released.
The power of prayer works.
May GOD bless
Portland Tennessee amen
Lenexa, KS
Thanks for enlightening us through God's TRUE WORD. Amen.
Amen Daniel.
Brother Alan and Brother Daniel, thank you for this great discussion. A number of things stand out from this including the possible fact that we have been so caught up with winning souls but not put enough effort in discipleship. By our common definition, we have discipleship classes in many of our denominations, which seem to stop at just teaching our different doctrinal positions of our denominations, instead of helping believers become like Christ.
Part of this could come form a sense that many feel that they have some monopoly on being leaders and are not keen to make those whom they present the Gospel to into 'Little Christs'. If our Lord himself declared that we would do even greater things than He did, and He was happy to see us do these things and sent us the promised Helper, why is it that we are quick to dismiss the possibility that others can be possibly more 'gifted' than we are?
In these last days, we are compelled to preach the Gospel of the KINGDOM as a TESTIMONY to the nations as foretold in Matthew 24, and then the end will come. We are to be careful to not get caught up with endless arguments, for the HOLY SPIRIT is a PERSON, within whom lies the heart of God that longs to be with His children. We sometimes forget that and may get caught up with the gifts, which is where the cessationist movement gets its ammunition from to attack the charismatic movement. The Holy Spirit will only do the will of the Father and when we are immersed in Him, we get the attributes of the Father, which firstly and foremost is pure love, from which stem the gifts of a loving Father to a hurting world and then from that stems 'Thy Kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is done in heaven'. How then can we do the Father's will if we deny the power and presence of The Holy Spirit?
In these last days, He will pour out His Spirit on 'all flesh'. How people react to that will determine whether they are wise virgins or the foolish ones. We are entering into that season and blessed are the hungry, for they shall be filled.
In the speaking in tongues at penticost, I believe they were actually speaking in heavenly languages. The crowd just had the holy spirit translating for them (as it says they heard). If you have a lot of people speaking different languages at once, even if you understood one of those languages, I would be supprised if you could make out much of what they were actually saying.
I agree.
Houston tx listening in ❤
Growing up in the Christian Church, 'No crred but Christ, no book but the Bible', except for the gifts of the spirit. Jesus even said, "These signs shall follow the believer....." Pastors quickly squelched anyone who got out of line regarding cessationism. By the grace of God I founf the truth. Sadly, my brother-in-law died because my family continued to believe and speak death over him when i was speaking life. I received criticism from my family for speaking life.
That static is very annoying and distracting.
It’s awful.
Agreed. Great discussion but found it very distracting. Came to the comments to see if I was the only one. Surprised by how few mentioned it.
Yes!! I didn’t want to be rude but it’s pretty bad.
This is great proof that the enemy is pulling all strings to try to deceive believers. I was saved in a Charismatic church and witnessed the power of God, Holy Spirit, healing, tongues and Bible truth. That was back in 1988 in NYC. This movie should be band. Praying for these lost souls.
Preach it Alan and Daniel
There was one friend of mine who is Baptist and holds to cessationism. I noticed she kept sending me links to seminars and articles about the sufficiency of scripture. Back then I didn't think anything of it, but in hindsight, now knowing that the cessationist standpoint on continueists is that continueists disregard, or hold a lower view of scripture, I can now see what she was trying to do. :P
The clip where the lady is howling, I believe is from the Toronto out pouring. There is a testimony behind why she did it. I watched the video where John Arnott is explaining many of the weird things happened during the out pouring.
This was great!! What we need to do as Charismatics is defend the truth and give a defense for the hope that’s in us (and continuitionism is very hopeful) (to exegete scripture there I believe it’s talking about The Gospel) - but none the less, I believe we should, in love, defend our beliefs- also as Charismatics we should bone up on the basics of theology more, because I believe many are lacking in this area! The Trinity, Christ being fully man and fully God (Christology), salvation by grace through faith ALONE. And we should be stronger in Church History as well!
Pastor will u be doing a deep dive series on every chapter of your new book?
Salvation is only the entry point and that is what most churches teach in the west. Speaking tongues is the first evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and your gateway to prayer and ascension in the spirit. Not believing in tongues is like having a brand new ferrari but keeping in the garage and never driving it. Not many churches in the west teaches holiness, consecration, priesthood, judgment seat of Christ and this is how we came to a place where we are saying healing is not for today and people perish because of the lack of knowledge. But churches are going to invite male dancers trowing flames and entertain the crowds 🤷🏽
It's very sensitive topic for me since I have people from both sides. I do believe in the gifts of the Holy spirit but honestly sometimes whenever i listen to the voices around me i do feel discouraged,confused and hurt but yes i have more peace and clarity in the scriptures to desire the spiritual gifts .God is still speaking ,God is still moving ,God is still using His people. Above all ,love is what i wish and pray for both side.
But i'm thankful for Daniel Kolenda for really having the burden to stand up for the ministry of the Holy Spirit 🔥
I'm encouraged
How blind we are. The enemy sowing many clever sounding words and thought.
Arguments and discussion here and there.
But we seem to have forgotten that Jesus wants disciples. To live in a manner to honour and follow His word.
All else is not of God..
Tongues with interpretation is equal to prophecy. John Wimber.
Cessationists are stealing the bread from the children......
We must dare to stand up and not be ashamed!!❤
Mark 16:17-18 ESV
And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; [18] they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover."
Love the high ground reference!🤣🤣🤣
Yes Ev Bonnke’s biography was awesome
Excellent teaching as usual.
But wasn't Dr. Brown part of the Brownsville revival ?
LOVE this interview! (One little thing, and it's probably a "it's me not you" thing: if they could have gotten the spelling of "Cessationism" in the subtitles I think that would have been more helpful (i.e., not "seccesionism", which is something else entirely, as in - - when a state wishes to secede ...)
😊 Yes EXACTLY!!! Unequal & uncharitable 🎯🔥
I WATCHED ALL Of DANIEL KOLENDA Series!!! Refreshing, Encouraging! I've been upset along time with All the Cessationist!😫😔🤦🏼♀️
It’s God that heals. We a mere vessels that are coworkers with God to fulfill the great commission. God heals this is not what cessationist don’t seem to comprehend. Lay hands in faith knowing who our Father is who Jesus is. Who Holy Spirit is who we are in Chris
Gonna be interesting to see how they [cecessionists] will explain the obvious effects that will come with God pouring out His Spirit on ALL flesh. (Joel 2:28)
You know, it’s so sad really that we have to have a conversation like this in the church world, because how can you talk about or teach about that which you have not received? In my mind, you can’t even really have that conversation with someone who hasn’t received the baptism of the Holy Spirit because they don’t know.
I real can’t understand why anyone would wish for the Gifts of the Spirit to cease.that says a lot about their heart,very sad.
I love this! It’s time to stand up!❤
This is fantastic! I just texted a Lutheran yesterday. She is clueless on issues due to water down Gospel. I appealed to history: Luther was all about the problem of scriptural deficit. Satan loves us to be ignorant. Thats why Luther was so dangerous.
So glad for this show and Daniel deciding to speak out concerning this issue. I think there's a real spirit of arrogance in the church today between cessationists and post tribulation rapturists. Are they worshipping their own intelligence and putting it above scripture? They remind me of those who follow liberal politics. They can become rabid if you disagree with them. I'm so surprised to learn that Dr. Brown is in the cessation camp. And I also applaud John McArthur for taking a stand during covid. It gave me a newfound respect for him after he disregarded at least half of the church with the unholy fire movement. I was so saddened to see Christians I highly respected and loved following this movement like Joni Erickson Tada. I don't think they realized that part of the church body they were dissing were people who respected and loved them - their own brothers and sisters in The Lord! I accepted their disbelief in tongues and would have thought they would be the same towards us. I think it boils down to Love. If we don't have that we are just sounding gongs. May we all please The Lord and love one another.
I'm a Continuationist but the Cessationists would disregard whatever Paul says to the churches because they say the gifts ended with the closed canon and also with the death of the last apostle. So all of Paul's words of encouragement were only valid for a few decades. Then when the last of the original Apostles (including Paul) died all of his words became invalid because the Finalized Canon was available
So a Matthew 24 it says even the very elect will be deceived. Would this be considered that?
It actually says, if it were possible, even the very elect would be decieved. I think that verse could be referring to the great deception thats going to come upon the whole world... probably after the rapture. And it'll likely involve the lie being told to explain away the disappearance of believers. Those are just my thoughts so not saying anything for sure.
“Too Good To Not Believe!”
My experience with Justin peters was him trying to defend John Lindell then asking me to donate money to a mission in Africa.
For the most part the cessationists are speaking the truth. Kolenda and those like him make huge claims but never back them up with verifiable evidence. I was in charismatic churches for 35 years and am so grateful to Jesus He truly delivered me from the oppression of Pentecostalism
I’m sorry to hear that. I’ve witnessed the power of the Holy Spirit and it is undeniable so it’s always sad to hear something like this.
Cessationism its an end time heresy! Lets all be biblical and open to the reality of the gifts of the Spirit
It was because of the Bible that I was going after the gifts of prophecy and tongues. I believed for it and now I received them 10+ years ago. My church here in Holland is Reformed but a lot of people in my church have the gifts of the Spirit now! There is a lot of false doctrine in the church especially the Reformed / protestant churches here. But God is on the move!
I’m extremely, EXTREMELY concerned about the hyper-Calvinistic views permeating The Church and the judgement and HOPELESSNESS that comes with it.
How does anyone possess the Indwelling Holy Spirit and deny the gifts?