Hold music used to sound better. Here's why.

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
  • It's not your imagination; hold music on phones really did sound better in the old days. Here's why, as we talk about old telephone exchanges and audio compression.
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  • @TomScottGo
    @TomScottGo  6 лет назад +8984

    By the way, the Milton Keynes Museum is wonderful. I know the town’s got a reputation for roundabouts and concrete cows, but the museum’s a gem.

    • @tomcutts9200
      @tomcutts9200 6 лет назад +95

      Milton Keynes is surprisingly leafy. Almost too leafy in fact.

    • @SassyP17
      @SassyP17 6 лет назад +130

      also for stealing a football team

    • @lucylambert3113
      @lucylambert3113 6 лет назад +48

      i go to MK just for the IKEA

    • @roshanviscoro4136
      @roshanviscoro4136 6 лет назад +65

      Milton Keynes is known for RedBull Racing Team base

    • @9ED6F5E1
      @9ED6F5E1 6 лет назад +41

      I was expecting the TARDIS to disappear with the sound and all.

  • @PS3pwns
    @PS3pwns 6 лет назад +13942

    I always thought they intentionally made the music terrible so that you would hang up and customer service wouldnt have to deal with you.

    • @Ellemen_LMN
      @Ellemen_LMN 4 года назад +512

      Big brain

    • @Tjalve70
      @Tjalve70 4 года назад +895

      That may be the reason for WHY they use hold music. Tom Scott just told how HOW the music has turned bad. Not why it's still being used.

    • @Fred_the_1996
      @Fred_the_1996 4 года назад +63

      Worst hold music anyone???

    • @josephschaefer9163
      @josephschaefer9163 4 года назад +321

      @@Fred_the_1996 bank or America. They're hold music sounds like it's played off a 20 year old cassette tape through three stages of microphones and speakers

    • @galaxymew5138
      @galaxymew5138 4 года назад +11

      Same

  • @enderger5308
    @enderger5308 3 года назад +5091

    “This is not a TARDIS, this is just a regular police telephone box.”
    The disappointment in his voice was priceless.

    • @mnikhk
      @mnikhk 3 года назад +137

      Or is it?

    • @kittenloveer1625
      @kittenloveer1625 2 года назад +138

      (Vsause music)

    • @echodelta9
      @echodelta9 2 года назад +33

      I thought I heard that whooshing piano bass string getting scraped sound and expected to see a flash of light...
      Free for use of public. Well I guess I'll make a call.

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul 2 года назад +17

      @@JonathanTBE I just assumed they've switched appearances since now everyone just sees those and goes OH A TARDIS!

    • @woodrobin
      @woodrobin 2 года назад +40

      @@JonathanTBE Rule 1: The Doctor lies.

  • @brkbtjunkie
    @brkbtjunkie 2 года назад +1366

    “We are experiencing a higher than normal call volume” (for the last 10 years)

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 года назад +61

      Funny how that is what about 80% of them say, just about ALL THE TIME.

    • @vitesse_arnhem
      @vitesse_arnhem Год назад +73

      “Please listen, as our options have changed.“

    • @hankkingsley9300
      @hankkingsley9300 Год назад +80

      Because those people from 10 years ago are still on hold

    • @azmike3572
      @azmike3572 Год назад +3

      @@vitesse_arnhem And that's been heard for months...

    • @Automat1cJack
      @Automat1cJack Год назад +9

      "Para Espanol, Marke Numero Dos"

  • @Odihmantich
    @Odihmantich 4 года назад +887

    1:53 We see how they put old school cell phones in special cases to protect them, and also how they put a Nokia phone in a similar case to protect the rest of the museum.

    • @karenpost710
      @karenpost710 2 года назад +40

      That Nokia is probably more indestructible than the case! 😆

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 2 года назад +71

      It's to prevent people with their grimy fingers from disrespecting the holy relic with their touch.

    • @DaveMustaineShreds
      @DaveMustaineShreds 2 года назад +6

      @@syweb2 It's said that at the end of days the battery will finally die and plugging in the charger will bring about the Antichrist.

    • @Vinemaple
      @Vinemaple 2 года назад +4

      You kids never get tired of that joke.

    • @wojtekpolska1013
      @wojtekpolska1013 Год назад +48

      yea, the old nokias were reusable frag grenades - you drop them and the phone splits into 3 pieces - the main part, the case, and the battery, all flying in different directions :p
      the phone however remains undamaged, and works when reassembled

  • @splashstrike
    @splashstrike 6 лет назад +8373

    Amazing to think phone users in the 20s would have received much clearer sounds than we get today.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 лет назад +951

      splashstrike Well, yes, and no. The bandwidth was higher, but the echo and hum was much worse.

    • @hardstyle3196
      @hardstyle3196 6 лет назад +549

      splashstrike it's almost the 20's again

    • @michaelmartin9022
      @michaelmartin9022 5 лет назад +126

      If they could afford it!

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 5 лет назад +194

      Not necessarily. The analog devices used to convert speech to analog audio signals in phones were cheaper, and had less bandwidth (ca. 100-3000 Hz) than even the earliest radio broadcast gear made specifically for voice and music combined carried better quality than that. While the standards for AM radio allowed up to 5000 Hz, the voice-only utility radio services (ham, police, fire, taxi, and the original wireless phones) had a narrower bandwidth, generally 300-3000 Hz, to save spectrum space. FM radio, and the audio portion of analog TV, could go up to 75,000 Hz (20,000 Hz for the primary audio signal and the higher frequencies for extra services such as stereo and store/elevator music, and/or reading for the blind).

    • @paulf1071
      @paulf1071 4 года назад +60

      @@5roundsrapid263 Delay time may have been an issue as well, not to mention the possibility of a long wait time for a line to free up for use.

  • @skthejanner
    @skthejanner 6 лет назад +5964

    But it still sounds better than "Your call is important to us, please hold."

    • @ImInForAWuppin
      @ImInForAWuppin 6 лет назад +338

      I don't really mind hearing that phrase. It's the ten thousand years of silence that follow that get under my skin.

    • @Juli414
      @Juli414 6 лет назад +138

      NoLight, YES! Especially if they have to transfer you, and you aren't quite sure if the call didn't drop somehow. At least some sort of noise lets you know it's still connected.

    • @johnpetersen5341
      @johnpetersen5341 6 лет назад +109

      How about "if you don't want to hold, please try our automated system" every ten seconds after you already selected the "it's something else" option to escape the dialogue?

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 6 лет назад +51

      "Thank you for holding. We appreciate your patience... .... .... ...please hold!"

    • @TheDemocrab
      @TheDemocrab 5 лет назад +58

      Those systems should say, after an hour or so of hold time "Y'know, if you'd just came in physically you'd probably be all done now."

  • @MrCrabs101
    @MrCrabs101 3 года назад +999

    "You know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this!"
    *static*

    • @teiermyler4926
      @teiermyler4926 2 года назад +41

      Maybe compression wasn't as bad in 1955

    • @mixerfistit5522
      @mixerfistit5522 2 года назад +77

      Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet…but your kids are gonna love it

    • @krajsyboys
      @krajsyboys 2 года назад +11

      @@mixerfistit5522 I mean... I listen to white noise sometimes... So not wrong

    • @trequor
      @trequor 2 года назад +9

      @@teiermyler4926 more like compression was non-existent in 1955

    • @KalebG
      @KalebG 2 года назад +8

      *Everywhere At The End Of Time intensifies*

  • @cattysplat
    @cattysplat 2 года назад +520

    "We're sorry for the delay, a support member will be with you shortly, your call is important to us"
    -Plays music from the pits of digital compressed hell-
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 2 года назад +13

      Some have a loop of 30 SECONDS of just... that! 30 seconds... in 2 hours you'll go insane!

    • @davefb
      @davefb 2 года назад +7

      Always amused me vodafone hold music being vivaldis 4 seasons and sounding utterly terrible. (dunno if it still is)
      They're a communications company... THEY can't get it right.

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul 2 года назад +15

      Literally the worst part is the music stops, there's a delay long enough that you thought it was a human picking up, and then it plays that "We're sorry..." bit followed by back to the music. And repeats that every 30 seconds.

  • @TheYoo2b
    @TheYoo2b 6 лет назад +4550

    Seeing as the sound is already optimised for speech, it would probably make more sense if all hold music was done by acapella groups

    • @boghag
      @boghag 6 лет назад +165

      This.

    • @SolarWebsite
      @SolarWebsite 6 лет назад +124

      TheYoo2b Or rappers.

    • @itsbazyli
      @itsbazyli 6 лет назад +499

      It wouldn't work any better. It's optimized for a single voice at speech-level pitch and volume.

    • @mins332
      @mins332 6 лет назад +591

      Bazyli Brzóska I think because it's one voice all hold music should be beatboxing done by the employee themselves

    • @krashd
      @krashd 6 лет назад +33

      A plan with no drawbacks!

  • @verdatum
    @verdatum 6 лет назад +2100

    I spent 4 years as a software developer working for the wireless telecom industry. words like 3G and 4G? I turned that stuff from specs to working code. And, after all that time, I was not able to figure out why the phone network doesn't discard that A-law Mew-law compression and digitize calls into something a little less lossy. The answer I hear is "there isn't really demand for that." But that's ridiculous.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 5 лет назад +33

      verdatum VoLTE is a lot better.

    • @SilverScroll
      @SilverScroll 5 лет назад +228

      "There isn't really demand for that"
      Nonsense. Germany, with its notoriously uncompetitive phone market, has had Deutsche Telekom offer HD Voice for a while now, and it was a major point of advertising for the transition to VoIP-based telephony. Where there's a will, there's a way.

    • @simmerke1111
      @simmerke1111 5 лет назад +48

      A new standard has to be backwards compatible. Unless the old isn't used anymore.
      Old people with rotary phones get confused when they have to press 1 for X support. But honestly, why would buttons be harder than rotary?

    • @nrok113
      @nrok113 5 лет назад +57

      a-law and mu-law aren't the issue, that's just how the analog is sampled. the problem is that sampling is usually done at a low rate like 8khz for g.711 (which actually sounds ok, but not great) or that it's compressed more with g.729 to save bandwidth - usually the call center is the one trying to push 40 calls at once over a T1 or DSL or something ludacris. higher quality codecs are already available on the carrier networks, like g.722, but the demand is not there and would usually need to be transcoded to 711 or 729 to get to the other side

    • @MichaelEricMenk
      @MichaelEricMenk 4 года назад +33

      ALAW and ULAW is ISDN compression, and it's a light compression.
      It's made do go over 64 or 56 kbits time multiplexed lines.
      The problem is the GSM codecs made to go over a 9.6kbits link compressed by a low powered battery device.

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 2 года назад +352

    "This is not a Tardis."
    Inside the Doctor is giving a thumbs up to thank Scott for not revealing the Tardis is real.

    • @rotz394
      @rotz394 Год назад +26

      I dunno, it makes more sense if Scott himself is the Doctor.

    • @cloverlucky5977
      @cloverlucky5977 Год назад +5

      @@rotz394 can’t wait for that Doctor Who episode!

    • @ihatestairsEXTERMINATE
      @ihatestairsEXTERMINATE Год назад

      @@rotz394 That's why Doc Brown shouted that

  • @axelprino
    @axelprino 6 лет назад +258

    Now I understand why some companies started using simple monophonic music that sounds like it was taken straight from one of those christmas lights that play songs, they are so simple that they don't get ruined.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 6 лет назад +36

      Yep. There is one other type that can survive it, and that is the most basic elevator music, but it end up sounding like the background music of a bad porno after compression.

    • @TasX
      @TasX 6 лет назад +3

      +Carewolf now that you mention porno, I'm thinking about people music and sound effects. what if they put on asmr?

    • @TasX
      @TasX 6 лет назад +1

      oh wait, nvmd it would be mono

  • @TheJoebus666
    @TheJoebus666 6 лет назад +1580

    I'd argue that even speech sounds terrible over the phone - it's 2017 and we're still stuck with muffled, badly compressed phone calls even though we're capable of streaming 4K video over a mobile data connection. It gets really bad with sibilant sounds - 'f' sounds like 's'.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 6 лет назад +119

      I generally never hear bad voice over the phone.....
      except when talking with people in the US. There must be some really terribly switches there with the lowest of the low quality.

    • @Vykk_Draygo
      @Vykk_Draygo 6 лет назад +28

      I dunno, I haven't had trouble understanding anyone on modern phones. Older cellphones, sure. In fact, it sounds nearly the same as talking in person now. Haven't used a landline in ages (nor have I knowingly called a landline), so I can't speak to that.

    • @RJARRRPCGP
      @RJARRRPCGP 6 лет назад +36

      @TheJoebus666 The sibilant issue, reminds me of default equalizer settings on stereos! A typical setup, will be too much focus on bass, and too much focus on sibilants!

    • @kellofkindles4991
      @kellofkindles4991 6 лет назад +50

      Carewolf Yep! We Americans make things cheap and sell 'em at a 500% markup!

    • @TheJoebus666
      @TheJoebus666 6 лет назад +69

      RJARRRPCGP - Yeah, that's because idiots are obsessed with 'extreme bass'. Shopping for headphones is a nightmare because all of them unnaturally boost bass frequencies. I've not heard too many issues with excessive high frequencies though.
      Everyone else - Don't get me wrong, I can (mostly) understand people fine on the phone, but when you take a step back and forget what 'phone calls should sound like' call quality is objectively bad.

  • @AJGeeTV
    @AJGeeTV Год назад +300

    As a teenager growing up in a northern English village in the 1970s, I used to go to the telephone box with a couple of friends, pop in 2 pence, dial 16, and listen to the number-one sound on Dial-a-Disc. This was a highlight at the time. Anyone else who did this? 😀

    • @Pactastic042
      @Pactastic042 Год назад +25

      That's fascinating

    • @ohwhye
      @ohwhye Год назад +35

      Did it just play the song through once? Or did it play on a loop? (I’m starting to realise that we used to be able to dial for many services: weather, directory assistance, accurate time etc. What did I miss?)

    • @Huels
      @Huels Год назад +7

      Weekends must have been wild for you growing up

    • @mrb2349
      @mrb2349 Год назад +7

      We used to have such services in my country as well. Everything from music to fairy tales and more, you could hold it to your ear and listen.

    • @checkoutmyyoutubepage
      @checkoutmyyoutubepage 7 месяцев назад

      My generation equivalent is waiting 30 minutes for a song to download via dialup.

  • @eloiseannicle
    @eloiseannicle 6 лет назад +631

    ‘This is not a tardis’ sure, that’s what everyone, who suddenly realised they don’t want their viewers to know about their secret tardis for hopping from video location to other amazing video location, would say. Also, very interesting video :)

    • @Vinemaple
      @Vinemaple 2 года назад +6

      He's not a Time Lord, he just learned to fly a TARDIS back in 2017 when he did a video about the Doctor.

    • @Smitology
      @Smitology 2 года назад +4

      Yes such a relatable feeling, that's what I say too when I don't what my viewers to know about my secret tardis

  • @lcbrme138
    @lcbrme138 6 лет назад +1458

    At work I LOVED when we did calls over a computer. The sound was SO much better. I struggle to understand people while talking over phones it's terrible.

    • @luckyluckydog123
      @luckyluckydog123 6 лет назад +213

      yes, phone quality is so disgustingly terrible that I really can't understand why everybody is putting up with it. HD voice exists but no one is pushing it

    • @jkacvbhijfn
      @jkacvbhijfn 6 лет назад +107

      Probably because people don't talk as much as they used to? Everyone texts/facebook msgs/whatspps. At the same time home phones are disappearing, and honestly, if you removed the phone feature on my phone, I wouldn't even notice.

    • @ekner
      @ekner 6 лет назад +84

      Phone quality is awful, I too struggle. There's so much information in the human voice that's lost you might as well text eachother and use robotic voices to read the stuff aloud. Then at least you'd have a transcript...

    • @MikaelLevoniemi
      @MikaelLevoniemi 6 лет назад +24

      Nokia did try, but it didn't become a new standard. Nokia to nokia calls had a better quality to them.

    • @JugglingBlog
      @JugglingBlog 6 лет назад +24

      May be wrong here, but aren't phone providers upgrading their networks so phonecalls that are LTE end to end will have much better sound-quality?

  • @TheWkc19
    @TheWkc19 6 лет назад +1397

    I was hoping for that phone box to dissapear like the tardis

    • @TomScottGo
      @TomScottGo  6 лет назад +711

      Same

    • @scootscoot2k
      @scootscoot2k 6 лет назад +43

      Tom Scott you have done animated tardises before super annoying to do remember :p

    • @rikwisselink-bijker
      @rikwisselink-bijker 6 лет назад +66

      I was hoping for something like 'the museum is bigger on the inside than you might think'

    • @halio8012
      @halio8012 6 лет назад +62

      I kinda expected Tom to say "Hmm.. It's bigger on the inside."

    • @Andy001z
      @Andy001z 6 лет назад +27

      Kind expected the tardis noise then Tom's voice.

  • @srjskam
    @srjskam 6 лет назад +116

    A few years ago I got a call from a gallup survey company that didn't know this... They were gauging people's preferences in music, so they played a number of samples and asked me to rate them. The horror. I couldn't identify most of them, and those that I _barely_ could, were popular enough to be very instantly recognizable if heard normally.

  • @zshall48
    @zshall48 Год назад +18

    This really demystifies a call I had recently where the music sounded almost haunted. Every few seconds it'd cut into static and then come back while I was on hold and with the noticeable compression already it really creeped me out. Made it sound like I was the last person on Earth listening to some lonely memory of the past. Now it all makes sense!

  • @JacobCarlson
    @JacobCarlson 6 лет назад +485

    Of course Tom is the Doctor! So much makes sense now

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 6 лет назад +27

      It's how he gets to all the exciting places he covers :)

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 5 лет назад +17

      It would explain a few things.

    • @starrikiru
      @starrikiru 4 года назад +7

      I mean half his videos make little to no sense to me, sooo

    • @Shermancrafted
      @Shermancrafted 2 года назад +3

      Yep, I think this may confirm that Tom is the Doctor.

  • @fredstewart3770
    @fredstewart3770 6 лет назад +4431

    They could just play dubstep and we wouldn't be able to tell if the connection was bad or not

    • @fredstewart3770
      @fredstewart3770 6 лет назад +147

      No I was insulting bad connections

    • @minecraftminertime
      @minecraftminertime 6 лет назад +38

      Yeah dubstep would not get through no matter what

    • @moth.monster
      @moth.monster 6 лет назад +78

      it's not an insult, it's a complement to efficiency

    • @20killershot
      @20killershot 6 лет назад +47

      I'd prefer that than the music i was subjected to listen to for half an hour. It was like orchestra but really scratchy and harsh

    • @alexanderg1935
      @alexanderg1935 6 лет назад +18

      'Salsa on my calls boys, green brownie'.

  • @Melissa0774
    @Melissa0774 Год назад +159

    The thing that always kind of makes me wary, is how so often, the hold music seems to momentarily stop whenever you make a noise, as if someone's about to come on the line. It always makes me nervous to say anything embarrassing because it makes me wonder if they're recording me even when I'm on hold. Why does the music always seem to stop whenever you talk or make a noise?

    • @jpaugh64
      @jpaugh64 Год назад +72

      They most likely record the entire call. Just mute your cellphone until someone answers. Don't forget to unmute.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад +2

      Just don't make a noise

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад +4

      @@jpaugh64 They don't record anything until the agent answers.

    • @SchemingGoldberg
      @SchemingGoldberg Год назад +46

      @@mediocreman2 You don't know that. There's nothing stopping them from recording everything. Even if they *say* they don't record, you have no way of proving it.

    • @MyNameIsXYlp
      @MyNameIsXYlp Год назад +19

      @@SchemingGoldberg In most places the law "stops" them
      And there's really not much to gain from recording long stretches of probably silence, so why risk it?

  • @RevJamesCostello
    @RevJamesCostello 4 года назад +78

    I had a bit of a phobia of using phones for a long time. The telephone sound, especially when talking to strangers, made me feel really uncomfortable and nervous. I would struggle to focus on what people were saying to me.

    • @meganofsherwood3665
      @meganofsherwood3665 Год назад +1

      I wonder if that's part of why the millennial/Gen Z generations tend to prefer text to phone calls. It's less of an aversion to talking to a human, and more an aversion to the sound quality itself

    • @SuperPickle15
      @SuperPickle15 10 месяцев назад

      Honestly I don't know how anyone settles for the horrible quality. When we have cheaply available 128kbs voip.

  • @dobkayaker
    @dobkayaker 6 лет назад +717

    "Milton Keynes isn't boring, it has a museum of telephone equipment!"

    • @Caledon91
      @Caledon91 6 лет назад +42

      Honestly if all of those old desk phones are wired into the network, I'd probably have a few hours of fun just dialing the numbers and making the phones ring.

    • @killercaos123
      @killercaos123 6 лет назад +3

      And there is Milton Keynes Dons. The greatest Football Club ever.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 6 лет назад +1

      An aging Marlon Brando is their mascot, he gets up to hijinks on the sidelines like taking out hits on the opposing players and talking about life in Sicily to the younguns.

    • @kimifan06
      @kimifan06 3 года назад

      Isn't that where all the F1 teams are located?

    • @OLBastholm
      @OLBastholm 3 года назад

      @@killercaos123 A stolen football club.

  • @Orikron
    @Orikron 6 лет назад +2376

    That title got me good, Tom, you mischevious fellow.

    • @Ghi102
      @Ghi102 6 лет назад +150

      What was the mischief? I don't see it.

    • @tylerm7741
      @tylerm7741 6 лет назад +260

      people thought it should say old music

    • @TomScottGo
      @TomScottGo  6 лет назад +779

      It’s not often I get to legitimately use a crash blossom sentence, let alone have one as the best possible title.

    • @Orikron
      @Orikron 6 лет назад +329

      For anyone wondering, a "Crash Blossom Sentence" is another way of saying a "syntactically ambiguous sentence". Tom Made a video on it called "Crash Blossoms and Being Drunk: Ambiguity".

    • @riott
      @riott 6 лет назад +75

      Álvaro Lopes you made a weird phrase sound even weirder to put more context into it. How did it work?

  • @edwardv1255
    @edwardv1255 2 года назад +22

    There are a select few places (in Norway, at least) that allow you to press for them to call you back when it's your turn in the queue. The only reason most places don't allow this option, I assume is because they want you to give up trying to contact them.

    • @corpsehandler5321
      @corpsehandler5321 Год назад +1

      like i say about so many of these shitty systems, if that's not the point, it's definitely a perk.

  • @JustWasted3HoursHere
    @JustWasted3HoursHere 5 лет назад +20

    I like the feature that some companies employ where you can input your phone number at some point during the initial call (or it can read your number via CallerID) and then it will immediately call you back when an operator/associate is available. Sadly, I've only encountered this a few times even though it is very useful.

  • @PSPbrtag
    @PSPbrtag 6 лет назад +5

    2:25 what a bombastic piece of music

  • @TheOtterOutdoorsman
    @TheOtterOutdoorsman 6 лет назад +68

    At my old job the hold music was compared to by calls as "Cruel and unusual punishment", and they begged me not to put them on hold (and this was for internal calls). And my doctor's office hold music sounds like it's being sung by a bunch of dying ducks. I just love it -mild sarcasm.

  • @cjp111
    @cjp111 2 года назад +11

    I'm watching this video 3 years late but it has, nonetheless, reminded me why I watch Tom Scott videos.

  • @markus3355
    @markus3355 4 года назад +1769

    1960: “I bet in the future, telephoned will be just like talking!”
    2019: *static destruction and lazy engineering*
    Edit
    2020: bandwidth consumed by Rona so you might as well be talking to a fax machine

    • @dcarbs2979
      @dcarbs2979 4 года назад +50

      Funny you say that. 1961 was the last year of manual phone exchanges!

    • @jco_sfm
      @jco_sfm 4 года назад +2

      This is lazy?

    • @bombardier6033
      @bombardier6033 4 года назад +55

      I mean, messenger, whatsapp, snapchat, discord and skype are better than calling someone on the phone

    • @richardhobbs7360
      @richardhobbs7360 4 года назад +10

      bombardier discord, really?
      You suddenly go mute and have to restart your phone or PC because you dare leave it minimised for to long

    • @jnspr
      @jnspr 4 года назад +29

      @@richardhobbs7360 works on my machine ™

  • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
    @imveryangryitsnotbutter 6 лет назад +431

    Let's all share the most memorable hold music we've ever experienced.
    Once when I was on hold, I was treated to a lovely piano arrangement of Chrono Trigger's 600 AD overworld theme.
    EDIT: Just found it again. It was the Shopify support line that played it.

    • @myownsite
      @myownsite 6 лет назад +127

      A phone company with notoriously long queues played Toto's Hold the Line...

    • @grindstone4910
      @grindstone4910 6 лет назад +58

      Not on hold music, but I was just at an Italian restaurant that was playing a mandolin version of "Hotel California" in the background.

    • @frogmyre485
      @frogmyre485 6 лет назад +31

      I'm convinced that a piece of hold music I once heard was Lazy Afternoons from Kingdom Hearts 2. I'm still unsure about that.

    • @artliss
      @artliss 6 лет назад +32

      My high school used The Imperial March at the beginning of the lesson. Pretty appropriate, I think.

    • @Coffeeology
      @Coffeeology 6 лет назад +28

      When I was working at an IT company years ago, (think Katrina), our hold music was "Rainy night in New Orleans."

  • @bob_._.
    @bob_._. 6 лет назад +759

    For me it's not the quality of the sound that I have problems with, it's the absolute crap music they play. And I was recently subjected to crap hold music that was on a 15 sec. loop.

    • @userPrehistoricman
      @userPrehistoricman 6 лет назад +158

      between the same 15 seconds of music they play a really annoying clip of "don't worry, we'll answer your call shortly"

    • @chimpwithagun
      @chimpwithagun 6 лет назад +80

      And the adverts for the service you're phoning up to cancel. I'd rather it just beeped occasionally to let me know it was still connected.

    • @condorboss3339
      @condorboss3339 6 лет назад +54

      Agree. The music selection is horrible. I wish they'd play the sounds of their cost center manager being burned alive.

    • @onometre
      @onometre 6 лет назад +9

      I prefer when a company just uses empty static

    • @FakeEmotion
      @FakeEmotion 6 лет назад +15

      bobobobinalong Some companies like Nintendo use music from their games as hold music.

  • @stonebear
    @stonebear 2 года назад +144

    The irony of the situation is that when you're talking cellphone to cellphone with modern equipment? The sound is full HD stereo. But the second it hits copper on the far end, the 4kHz bandpass kicks in and you're DOOMED.

    • @twentysixbit
      @twentysixbit 2 года назад +2

      I wish theyd just REMOVE that bandpass already. KILL IT NOW

    • @stonebear
      @stonebear 2 года назад

      @@twentysixbit Annnnnd the Tenth Commandment is broken. "Thou shalt forever forswear and abjure the vile notion that all the world's a Vax^H^H^H Windows box ^W^W LTE-capable mobile phone." Because there is a _metric swearword-tonne_ of *businesses* out there that still use old fashioned copper POTS... we won't see the 4kHz limit go until *all that analog stuff* is melted down for its copper. Which I'll bet money won't be before the 32-bit epoch (i.e. 2038).

    • @twentysixbit
      @twentysixbit 2 года назад

      @@stonebear You're right. Even I knew that already, I just wish it wasn't the case.

    • @stonebear
      @stonebear 2 года назад +6

      @@twentysixbit you an' me both. I'm eyeballs deep in trying to get rid of a different legacy tech, and it's like pulling the teeth of an angry alligator... without drugs. For me or the 'gator.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Год назад +2

      What? Music doesn't get anywhere near 4 kHz. Not a single note will be missing.

  • @BorgAssimilator
    @BorgAssimilator 4 года назад +159

    3:28 "This is not a Tardis. This is litterly just a Police Telephone Box." That part made me laugh. XD

  • @iPeel
    @iPeel 6 лет назад +39

    Another issues is that hold music needs to be much quieter than normal speech, about -15db, this makes the quieter sections of music fall below the silence threshold so the comfort noise generators kick in and no bandwidth is used at all.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Год назад +1

      -15db is _already_ below the silence threshold.

    • @iPeel
      @iPeel Год назад +3

      @@Anonymous-df8it we reduce all hold music by 15db and it's the perfect level. Even U-Law has a dynamic range of 84db.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Год назад +1

      @@iPeel But -15db is less than 0db, the quietest thing audible.

    • @iPeel
      @iPeel Год назад +2

      @@Anonymous-df8it Oh I get it, you're being pedantic. I meant a reduction of 15db as in exactly what you specify in say Audacity or SoX.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Год назад +1

      @@iPeel I wasn't

  • @kolelokaram8541
    @kolelokaram8541 6 лет назад +81

    Tom Scott for fourteenth Doctor 2020!!!

    • @kynan9465
      @kynan9465 6 лет назад +7

      “Make Doctor Who Great Again!”

    • @Scripture-Man
      @Scripture-Man 3 года назад +1

      "13th Doctor" is not canon IMHO. Plus, that dumpster fire of a show changed continuity so none of the numbers are relevant any more. The only way I'd ever watch the show again is if they gave us the true 13th Doctor and retconned out the last few years so it was a nightmare or something. I can't watch a show with THAT TRASH as part of its history.

  • @RiffRaffMama.
    @RiffRaffMama. 2 года назад +3

    Oh. My. God.
    If I could kiss you, Tom Scott, I would.
    I cannot tell you how many times I have been on hold with companies and been utterly baffled by the music periodically sounding like someone had knocked the tuning dial on a radio. It drove me mad because it just made zero sense to me. You have genuinely made my day with this information.

  • @LightTheUnicorn
    @LightTheUnicorn 2 года назад +7

    I'm really going to have to go down and visit that museum some day, that looks incredibly interesting!

  • @carolinadrone923
    @carolinadrone923 6 лет назад +15

    As someone who worked briefly at a call center I always wondered why music was so poorly handled by the systems. Thanks Tom for explaining.

  • @daverapp
    @daverapp 6 лет назад +37

    Oh thank goodness for the ending, I thought Tom was going to go fight Daleks or something and we wouldn't see him for a while

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 лет назад +1

      daverapp Wrong Tom!

    • @TheAlps36
      @TheAlps36 6 лет назад +1

      I am in Arcadia on Gallifrey - home of the Time Lords and here is something you might not know...

    • @ekij133
      @ekij133 3 года назад

      If Tom fought Daleks you would never see him again.

  • @imperiallarch7610
    @imperiallarch7610 2 года назад +85

    I don't think I've experienced this. I've heard hold music that was absolutely not suitable for being hold music because it was extremely intense instead of soothing, and I've heard hold music that was annoyingly interrupted by a repeating message every three seconds which made me wonder why they bothered with the music at all, but I've never had it break down into static.

    • @dr_redbanRL
      @dr_redbanRL 2 года назад +18

      hold music is designed to have you on edge. By the time you get through you're confused and stressed, and more easy to manipulate. That message that repeats makes it impossible to zone out while on hold- everytime it plays you think your call is being put through.

    • @Vinemaple
      @Vinemaple 2 года назад +2

      Apparently I was afraid to say this or something, but yes. YES. Do you, by any chance, exclusively use land lines?

    • @samanthadrennan
      @samanthadrennan 2 года назад +1

      one day this week I was on hold for an hour and a half and it never broke down into static

    • @superjive8282
      @superjive8282 Год назад

      I hardly make calls to anyone let alone companies utilising hold music and at the age of 24 I've heard hold music break down into static so many times i can literally hear it happening perfectly in my head. Are you sure you've never heard it phase out and get crackly, that's the same thing and is so common

    • @heatherduke7703
      @heatherduke7703 Год назад +1

      One time I was just getting into one of Mozart’s symphonies when it all of a sudden started over… It was just a snippet on a loop! What disrespect, I thought. Just play the whole piece!

  • @michaelmele3954
    @michaelmele3954 2 года назад +7

    Thank you so much for this! I know you said that speech "can survive" the quality-butchering compression, but I've noticed a decline in the quality of speech transmission too. Lately phone conversations are practically undiscernable, and I've always wondered why.

    • @Porty1119
      @Porty1119 Год назад +1

      I've noticed that too. Delivered audio quality is worse than narrowband digital radio systems now. It's embarrassing.

    • @michaelmele3954
      @michaelmele3954 Год назад +1

      @@Porty1119 is it possible to reoptimize the system? whether that includes cramming less data in the same space or just compressing it in a more efficient way, idk.

  • @s6th795
    @s6th795 6 лет назад +29

    I got excited when I saw the police box, but then I realized it's in a telephone exhibit. It probably is just a police box.

  • @mrwholesome2182
    @mrwholesome2182 6 лет назад +261

    14th doctor confirmed!!!

    • @dragoncurveenthusiast
      @dragoncurveenthusiast 6 лет назад +32

      That'd be amazing! An interesting, nerdy and pleasant doctor of my own generation
      Tom, time to start taking acting classes!
      Please make it happen!

    • @BrowncoatInABox
      @BrowncoatInABox 6 лет назад +6

      please tom

    • @heathermurtishaw6757
      @heathermurtishaw6757 6 лет назад +7

      Or Matt, that would be hilarious.

    • @itchykami
      @itchykami 6 лет назад +10

      Tom isn't an actor, doesn't appear to want to be an actor, or to sit in one place long enough to make a whole series of anything, however, maybe we can work it out anyways.

    • @X_Baron
      @X_Baron 6 лет назад +10

      He's already all over the world in his videos, so why not toss in the universe.

  • @damian9303
    @damian9303 4 года назад +8

    3:16 Tom is the Doctor, I don't care what any of you say

  • @ih82r8
    @ih82r8 3 года назад +1

    I am just genuinely mesmerized by there being a telephone museum in Britain...

  • @orionfl79
    @orionfl79 6 лет назад +116

    No, its a Tardis. You're just using it wrong. ^_^

  • @Littlejoys24
    @Littlejoys24 6 лет назад +457

    I was so expecting Tardis noises. humbug.

    • @LuisCG11
      @LuisCG11 6 лет назад +11

      +1, but copyright I'm suppose

    • @aibackup2445
      @aibackup2445 6 лет назад +33

      Tom Scott for the next doctor!

    • @dragonskunkstudio7582
      @dragonskunkstudio7582 6 лет назад +28

      Amazing! It's smaller on the inside.

    • @smwillia
      @smwillia 6 лет назад +11

      Tom Scott for the next companion. It's always more interesting when the companion has an intellect that can keep pace with The Doctor.

    • @aibackup2445
      @aibackup2445 6 лет назад +6

      true, that's the key to making it more "sci-fi-y" and less "fantasy-y" (I prefer "sci-fi-y")

  • @retroforager
    @retroforager 2 года назад +37

    "This is not a TARDIS, it's literally just a police telephone."
    WE SEE THROUGH YOUR LIES, THOMAS!

  • @thelastsaxtop
    @thelastsaxtop 3 года назад +2

    So pleased to see you in our museum! Wish I'd been in town when you visited!

  • @cosmicjenny4508
    @cosmicjenny4508 6 лет назад +84

    Take me back to the good ol' days, Tom!

    • @pupyasko1233
      @pupyasko1233 6 лет назад +3

      Evan Blenkinsopp Why not use the TARDIS at the end of the video to do just that?

    • @cosmicjenny4508
      @cosmicjenny4508 6 лет назад +3

      +Flo Huber Great Scott! A TARDIS?
      _wait, wrong franchise about time travel..._

    • @jlc5271
      @jlc5271 6 лет назад

      Evan Blenkinsopp the good hol' days

    • @cosmicjenny4508
      @cosmicjenny4508 6 лет назад

      +JLC You are a sly one. ;)

  • @Bigwebwasher
    @Bigwebwasher 6 лет назад +6

    Tom, seriously. Your content is absolutely brillant. Way better than so much stuff on TV, keep up the good work. Cheers.

  • @maximilianoelschlegel4714
    @maximilianoelschlegel4714 Год назад +3

    Being a callcenter worker myself... this is actually fascinating to find out (You'd be surprised how often we are on hold ourselves to communicate with other departments, companies, or whatever)

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket Год назад

      Do the callers sound as much like they're talking through old drive-thru speakers to you as you do to us?

    • @maximilianoelschlegel4714
      @maximilianoelschlegel4714 Год назад

      @@stevethepocket they absolutely do.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 6 лет назад +3

    I love that you can actually play around with the antiques...that looks like a museum I would love to visit.

  • @gigglysamentz2021
    @gigglysamentz2021 6 лет назад +43

    I wanted to hear some actual hold music samples :')

    • @dandronemoan4041
      @dandronemoan4041 2 года назад +6

      Right. Not a single example of said compression and cut corners

    • @jljordan1
      @jljordan1 2 года назад +1

      Cisco phone manager hold music is the best

    • @noahsmith4505
      @noahsmith4505 2 года назад

      Copyright from Muzak and the rights holders. Tom has good solicitors.

  • @volvodude101
    @volvodude101 4 года назад

    A RUclips guy that makes videos filled with interesting content instead of filler, likeandsubscribe, and sponsorship ads? Consider me hooked.

  • @silasolsvig7121
    @silasolsvig7121 Год назад +1

    The algorithm really peaked right when i clicked on this video choosing to show a commercial for swedish hold-music

  • @kilovoltamp
    @kilovoltamp 6 лет назад +14

    I still can't believe that we're stuck with /bad/ 12kbps audio. Good 12kbps audio would be fine, even.

  • @BlankPicketSign
    @BlankPicketSign 6 лет назад +59

    I was about to say, OF COURSE the brit couldn't help himself and jump right into the Police Box!

  • @silvy3047
    @silvy3047 2 года назад +6

    "the more calls they could fit in one line, and the cheaper it would be for them"
    And yet here we are paying more every year for service that doesn't change

    • @Krytern
      @Krytern 2 года назад

      You're still paying for a home landline phone? Why?

  • @LordGooben
    @LordGooben Год назад +6

    It also depends on the Codac as well. Depending on newer systems such as VoIP still can compress the music, but you won't hear the drops in the music notes and or static.

  • @ScrapMek
    @ScrapMek 6 лет назад +39

    To be honest I try not to use conventional telephone calls any more. The quality is so bad even on a flagship smartphone that a lot of what you understand is from inference, I realised this when I moved to a new country and was having real trouble "assuming" what people saying as a learner of a new language.
    I believe that conventional phone calls will be completely replaced by VoIP systems like Facebook, Skype and Whatsapp voice calls within 10 years because the quality is just so much better and data is becoming a lot cheaper.

    • @kkparis
      @kkparis 6 лет назад +4

      Ewan Jones In some ways, VoIP has already replaced most phone calls from cell phones, even from the native dialer. 3 of the 4 national carrier in the US offers voice over LTE which is VoIP with highest traffic priority. Conventional VoIP can't really compete on reliability because they are best effort traffic.

    • @xxXthekevXxx
      @xxXthekevXxx 6 лет назад +3

      When I game online, the sound coming in from my friends’ mics is way clearer than any phone call.

    • @ScrapMek
      @ScrapMek 6 лет назад +1

      Kevin Benoit This is really where it's most obvious to me. I have my own TeamSpeak server and the audio there is crystal clear and uses barely any bandwidth. On the rare occasions I use the phone, I'm always surprised at how bad the quality of the call is.

    • @ITAC85
      @ITAC85 3 года назад

      @@kkparis The issue with VoIP numbers, though, is a lot of services don't accept them, which is honestly dumb, especially since the amount of people who use a VoIP number has increased a lot since 3 years after.

  • @ezri6585
    @ezri6585 6 лет назад +4

    Number 1 on trending. well done Tom.

  • @burkeiowa
    @burkeiowa 2 года назад +2

    And the hold music is almost certainly an MP3 or similarly compressed audio. So what they play now compared to decades ago is most likely of lower quality before it even enters the company's internal phone system's compression algorithms.

  • @jamesharrison2374
    @jamesharrison2374 4 года назад +3

    Another interesting video! I work in a call center, and guess I don’t have as much issues with the hold music, but often with people calling on speaker phones, moving vehicles, muffled speech, massive echos, and calls from cellphones and getting number tones blasted in when the customer randomly touches the phone screen. Can sometimes make the calls very difficult to make out what the customers are saying.

  • @louisng114
    @louisng114 6 лет назад +7

    3:33 That's a wooden blue British box.

  • @WhitfieldGroves
    @WhitfieldGroves 6 лет назад +57

    Wow Dr. Who made a Tardis replica for this museum! Cool!
    I was hoping to see the future of phone technology...

    • @charliedCharltube
      @charliedCharltube 6 лет назад +8

      Whitfield Groves It’s a legitimate Police Box...

    • @danielsjohnson
      @danielsjohnson 6 лет назад +2

      Dr. Who copied them, not the other way around.

    • @neighbourino2376
      @neighbourino2376 4 года назад

      Do you actually think that it was a replica of the Tardis?

    • @Kriae
      @Kriae 3 года назад

      That was clearly a joke

  • @Zeem4
    @Zeem4 4 года назад

    RUclips has just suggested this video to me while I'm sat on hold with Euro Car Parts (1hr 13mins so far), listening to the same 20-second loop of music over and over.

  • @paulknight101
    @paulknight101 6 лет назад

    brilliant delivery, i am now a subscriber, stephen fry used to be my all knowing bloke, but now everything i know is due to tom scott.

  • @WakarimasenKa
    @WakarimasenKa 6 лет назад +9

    I often wondered why my doctors hold music sounded like it had gusts of static blowing through it. Now I know.

  • @ashtreylil1
    @ashtreylil1 6 лет назад +528

    solution: audiobooks for hold sound....uses the frequency that isnt cut (human voice) and u get some entertainment while you wait similar to music.

    • @RoberttheWise
      @RoberttheWise 6 лет назад +200

      uh, yeah. but: make it really trolly. just have random e-books and start them not at the beginning but somewhere in the middle. Some poor bloke will be put on hold to have Snape killing Dumbledore read to him.

    • @ashtreylil1
      @ashtreylil1 6 лет назад +12

      yes XD thx for the correction.

    • @maglorian
      @maglorian 6 лет назад +62

      that could work really well when using a series of short poems or something amongst those lines.

    • @ashtreylil1
      @ashtreylil1 6 лет назад +14

      hen that feature could be added using caller id as long as you are using the same phone number

    • @peter_smyth
      @peter_smyth 6 лет назад +14

      I like the idea, but it would be confusing while you are o lyrics half listening, waiting till you here the voice of whoever answers.

  • @terrytierney1
    @terrytierney1 4 года назад

    Tom as the Doctor is not something I knew that I wanted, but now I want it so much!

  • @loganstombaugh9658
    @loganstombaugh9658 3 года назад

    Seeing the old step switch working was amazing, I just stay working for a telephone company and if really cool seeing how far we've come

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 2 года назад

      What? The whole point of the video was to show how far we've DEVOLVED.

  • @The3rdPlateau
    @The3rdPlateau 6 лет назад +38

    "That compression is great at encoding one clear voice"
    Meh, it's okay.

  • @oldnelson4298
    @oldnelson4298 3 года назад +4

    I think there is another factor impacting the sound. I've noticed, when on hold, that quiet parts of the music are completely inaudible. It's cutting off the signal entirely when the signal strength drops below a certain threshold. I believe it is called "squelch" or "squelching" in telecommunications jargon. It makes me wonder why they often seem to choose music with lots of varied dynamics that end up being silent (or end up just the background static) in all the quiet parts, or you hear the odd note break through that happens to reach the signal threshold. Yes, I've spent far too long on hold.

  • @Zebrage
    @Zebrage 3 года назад +1

    Oh I have been to that museum before! I always loved playing with the phones there.

  • @DrunkInPublic
    @DrunkInPublic Год назад

    It’s amazing that Tom looks younger now than he did when this video came out 4 years ago

  • @WillHirschUK
    @WillHirschUK 6 лет назад +14

    Of course the advance of other technologies means that it's pretty inexcusable to put people on hold with music of any quality any more. Phone calls are cheap enough that pretty much any company should be able to justify a queue where you get a call back when it's your turn, or in the worst case scenario some sort of SMS token so they can still bill the customer for the return call.

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat 2 года назад +1

      You think companies invest into customer service? It's literally bottom of the barrel tech outsourced to humans in third world countries getting payed a few dollers a day.

  • @benostein
    @benostein 6 лет назад +8

    Watching this video whilst listening to some awful hold music right now :) Thanks for the insight Tom!

  • @eddieslittlestack7919
    @eddieslittlestack7919 Год назад

    The squeak in that chair just adds to the authentic-ness!

  • @WildRover1964
    @WildRover1964 Год назад +1

    I have passed the Milton Keynes Museum many times before but I'm never thought to go in. I'm off there tomorrow then

  • @LouisSubearth
    @LouisSubearth 2 года назад +6

    I'm still surprised that we haven't figured out a way to implement HD Voice across all telephony. Landlines may be harder but if we treat phone switchboards as DACs with user input for microphone and keys, it could be done, although it may be expensive. That or detecting calls from a mobile phone and using HD voice if available for the call.

  • @rommysoeli
    @rommysoeli Год назад +3

    it's quite ironic that when things have gone through multiple times of lossy encoding the only thing we get is a static noise which in term of entropy is at the highest it can get.

  • @thatoneguy99100
    @thatoneguy99100 6 лет назад

    45 minutes of the same 30 second clip playing over and over just to talk to Dell's Indian call center. That was my morning.

  • @iamthinking2252_
    @iamthinking2252_ 4 года назад

    This becomes more and more relevant with my recommendations nowadays

  • @CedrikLPle
    @CedrikLPle 4 года назад +5

    2:06 My current Motorola phone is in the middle :)

  • @AdamBluntTech
    @AdamBluntTech 6 лет назад +7

    Most companies are running Cisco phone systems. in my own testing I have found it always adds a large ammount of static to all hold music even between 2 IP phones. so maybe thats where the static comes from. mainly down to the system only using RAW audio with a sample rate of 8000hz which on its own makes a ton of hiss and then the system seems to recompress it again adding twice the hiss

    • @mystica-subs
      @mystica-subs 6 лет назад

      TechBase Cisco and indeed all VoIP systems that pass PSTN aLaw or uLaw (g.711) thru sound just fine; g.722 is screwy

    • @AdamBluntTech
      @AdamBluntTech 6 лет назад

      I cant speak for all systems. Asterisk has no hiss. but my homelab Cisco CME setup has tons of hiss but only on the hold music no matter what format I use (using the recomended settings with Adobe Audition which sounds fine played back there with no hiss so its the router adding the hiss) the larger CUCM might handle hold music diffrently and have not used it before

  • @KannonandSwitch
    @KannonandSwitch 3 года назад +2

    I was really hoping this would end with Tardis noises, but Tom's delivery was better tbh.

  • @LycanWitch
    @LycanWitch 2 года назад +2

    I am honesty surprised none of the phone companies have offered uncompressed phone calls. The caveat being only if you call a device that’s compatible (ie new cellphone to new cellphone with the support) meanwhile compressed if calling the old standard.

  • @o0Avalon0o
    @o0Avalon0o 2 года назад +4

    I miss twirly phones. My grandma kept hers for an extra 20 years so we could enjoy it even if it wasn't plugged in.

  • @11danzizzle11
    @11danzizzle11 6 лет назад +3

    I've wondered about that a few times, glad I know why now! :)

  • @zakabog
    @zakabog 6 лет назад +1

    I install and support phone systems and tried to explain this to a customer before, they wanted "Back in the New York Groove" as their hold music but they didn't understand why the music sounded so bad once it was going through the phone system. I tried to explain that with everything going on in the song you will lose a lot of clarity once it's compressed and cut off. I eventually gave them an example of this by sending them the WAV file encoded the way it would be on the phone system, they then had me do this repeatedly to all the music they liked until one song sounded pretty decent even after compression...
    Wealthy customers are just so used to getting their way with everything, they assume if you scream loud enough that the people around you can fix anything.

  • @justnotg00d
    @justnotg00d Год назад +1

    I remember good music from a local radio station on hold. It is sad, as technology increases, customer services goes away. Years ago, you could dial just the last five numbers for a local call. Now you HAVE to even use the area code to call across the street,

  • @mrcaboosevg6089
    @mrcaboosevg6089 6 лет назад +7

    To this day i text people i work for rather than call them, i simply can't understand people on the phone on the mobile network. Landlines are just about useable for me

    • @klobiforpresident2254
      @klobiforpresident2254 5 лет назад

      For me it's the other way around, our landline connection is very difficult to use for me, whereas if works with mobile phones.

  • @ToTheGAMES
    @ToTheGAMES 6 лет назад +42

    I was hoping so much the 'Tardis' would dissapear... Wrr Wrrr Wrrrr WRRR -goneski-

  • @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193
    @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193 3 месяца назад +1

    What's even worse than the static is that they usually have a loop that just repeats over and over. I think that crap has got to be a big reason why people snap on customer service people.

  • @DoubleDOwnage
    @DoubleDOwnage 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you I've always wondered why multi-billion dollar corporations could afford a high quality version of a $0.42 song.

  • @GlyphicEnigma
    @GlyphicEnigma Год назад +4

    "This is not a TARDIS, this is literally just a telephone box."
    I laughed so hard at that XD

    • @fmaximus
      @fmaximus Год назад

      But is it bigger on the inside?