Zee please never stop yapping. Same with ur jokes, pychs wee woo, MIKE GAMING, THE W I L L B R O T H E R S- all amazing. Don’t even think about putting the fries in the bag. I love watching these teams but I would never be able to if you didn’t upload these vids. You’re vids are literally the highlight of my days. With much love
ZEEZ UPLOAD, WE ALL CHEERED 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 your psychologist S badge arc is motivating me to get at least a B badge for her and buy the everlasting night skin ❤
44:31 Ivy Singer spotted !! In my tiny brain, the less BT is probably a byproduct of feeling like BT is kind of a dead persona on 3/4 of the team, most of the time. As you said, single hit hunters are currently the meta which means you usually don't have to fear being half-health against something like a Sculptor if you don't bring BT as, for example, a rescuer. A rescuer also usually has tide - which means you don't body-block so unless the hunter specifically goes for you, you're probably not gonna be down. Additionally some characters have the survivability to make not bringing BT less risky than on other characters because they can avoid a hit and then pop, as opposed to taking the hit and popping. 16:21 Abnormal Ivy feels like it should work mostly because Ivy is one of the only hunters to a) have the mobility to use it well while also b) having enough map pressure to have it matter. because abnormal is like, fine. but it doesn't usually matter much when the hunter doesn't have the map pressure to back it up (accelerated decoding go brr). Like for example if you abnormal a cipher as geisha and then go back to chase/camp, survivors are pretty free to just decode that and it can of course matter, but it's less likely to last long. It definitely ligns up with her usual long-dragged battles but I'm also not sure if it's the best strat available. 49:40 I think Warp Naiad has a interesting niche in that it gives her map pressure - why spend 10 seconds walking closer to a cipher with giant claw, if you could chair immediately and warp onto a cipher, puddle it, and go back to camp. Depending on the layout, you could even make a GIGANTIC abyss using warp too. It also gives her more mobility endgame than inso-blink does, if there is potential for an additional kill after cipher pop. I think it could work for green-ping Naiads, but blink helps her out a lot. She's more pallet-spammable than you'd think. She relies a lot on setup and blink allows her to get a down fast which is sometimes necessary. Personally my evaluation of traits on Naiad is: - Patroller - plays into her strenghs (setup, water dmg, camp) - Blink - helps her blindspots (god pallets, windows, usually needing setup/time to get a down) - Warp - helps her blindspots (map pressure) while also having synergy with her kit (biiiig puddle) 50:16 .... or you can be goated and warp for a terror shock I do think Warp can work like this as well to counter transitional kiting. As Naiad you usually want to force people into the open so you can get a hit and warp technically helps be on top of them when they do so, but I agree - I feel like against most survivors this would not work as well as it did here. 54:52 !!! big brain..... I was thinking maybe impact was bc she would try to pressure ciphers with warp but priestess portal counter.... and warp makes sense when theres a priestess too. you cant go blink-only when theres a global portal.
Watching these tournaments really makes me excited for coa seeing a transitional period in the meta where people are experimenting with new characters makes me so happy so now we don’t see the same few characters and new characters get a chance especially ones we previously thought were bad
1:10:15 LMAO i love how you are talking about current meta with concerned/surprised voice and then “There’s a Sanrio Cheerleader there”😂😂 Idk but it cracked me up ahaha
10:28 just wanted to point out how smart the female dancer is for rescuing only after composer got hit: guaranteeing a safe rescue. i certainly wouldn’t be able to pull that off without good comms and I don’t think I have dancer’s patience or the brain cells to think of it. one of the little things that distinguishes a top player from good/mid level.
Me leaning into my own mic (that I don’t have or own): you will not get me to use flywheel. EVER. anyway these matches were too intense. I’m out here sweating. Also the fact I didn’t get to hear MIKE GAMING is so sad. seeing coord back out on the field is giving old tournament matches. Oh and i never bought into abnormal 😭😭😭 I feel like it only really works on specific characters, specific hunters, specific maps and specific lineups. A lot of RNG. I never felt like it was consistent enough.
thank you zeez for saying antiquarian isnt a no skill character 😭😭 just because shes good doesnt mean she doesn't take time to learn . like getting used to her swings at first was so difficult for me plus her harassment is also kind of difficult to get considering how close to the hunter u havw to be
RAHHHHH COMPOSER METAAAA!!!!! Sidenote1: When playing IDV as an early player, you can call me silly when I say this, but I thought Sui builds with rescuers would've been alright. Of course, the rescuer should still bring tide, but back then, I didn't understand why rescuers would bring BT. It's not typical for rescuers to take first kite anyway. Especially like a mercenary or first officer. [Sidenote2: MERC is the only rescuer I can understand why BT would be necessary due to the fact he can do a detention rescue and full health is needed.] But someone like FO is a rescuer I DEFINITELY wouldn't want to chase after [imo], for not only does he have items to work with, but the fact he has a long chair time, longest in game matter of fact. Considering that as a surv, that would make me think: Why would a hunter wish to chase me as rescuer? If they don't chase me, why would I need BT? Of course, that is situational. Like, you never know when you as a rescuer might actually be taking kite or a double hit near endgame, or even a TS. But, this is not an often scenario, so why not take the risk [imo]. Of course when I play rescuers I bring BT and tide, but to this day I am still wondering why Sui on rescuers [tide a must in this SUI] is considered, odd/unacceptable. I am open to answers. 😭 Sidenote3: Of course, Coord is an exception.
Play 8v2 - Pick composer - reach auto decode - watch Zee video while decoding
real
I been telling you guys composer's meta n you all doubted me I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN YOU FREDERICK I LOVE YOU!!!!!
I NEVER DOUBTED FOR A SECOND
real
Composer gets to meta first before ashes of memory part 3
frederick fled the manor to get to the meta tiers
Zee please never stop yapping. Same with ur jokes, pychs wee woo, MIKE GAMING, THE W I L L B R O T H E R S- all amazing. Don’t even think about putting the fries in the bag. I love watching these teams but I would never be able to if you didn’t upload these vids. You’re vids are literally the highlight of my days. With much love
48:04 psychopath caught me so off guard i cannot
Conponser will always cook
RAHHH COMPOSER MENTIONED
26:48 coord was trying to get healed by psych and DX spooked to interrupt it, very clever!!!
Everytime I see zeez tournament commentary videos I get so happy these r my favorite vids ever
WAKE UP EVERYBODY COMPOSER GAMING‼️
ZEEZ UPLOAD, WE ALL CHEERED 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 your psychologist S badge arc is motivating me to get at least a B badge for her and buy the everlasting night skin ❤
44:31 Ivy Singer spotted !!
In my tiny brain, the less BT is probably a byproduct of feeling like BT is kind of a dead persona on 3/4 of the team, most of the time. As you said, single hit hunters are currently the meta which means you usually don't have to fear being half-health against something like a Sculptor if you don't bring BT as, for example, a rescuer. A rescuer also usually has tide - which means you don't body-block so unless the hunter specifically goes for you, you're probably not gonna be down. Additionally some characters have the survivability to make not bringing BT less risky than on other characters because they can avoid a hit and then pop, as opposed to taking the hit and popping.
16:21 Abnormal Ivy feels like it should work mostly because Ivy is one of the only hunters to a) have the mobility to use it well while also b) having enough map pressure to have it matter. because abnormal is like, fine. but it doesn't usually matter much when the hunter doesn't have the map pressure to back it up (accelerated decoding go brr). Like for example if you abnormal a cipher as geisha and then go back to chase/camp, survivors are pretty free to just decode that and it can of course matter, but it's less likely to last long.
It definitely ligns up with her usual long-dragged battles but I'm also not sure if it's the best strat available.
49:40 I think Warp Naiad has a interesting niche in that it gives her map pressure - why spend 10 seconds walking closer to a cipher with giant claw, if you could chair immediately and warp onto a cipher, puddle it, and go back to camp. Depending on the layout, you could even make a GIGANTIC abyss using warp too.
It also gives her more mobility endgame than inso-blink does, if there is potential for an additional kill after cipher pop.
I think it could work for green-ping Naiads, but blink helps her out a lot. She's more pallet-spammable than you'd think. She relies a lot on setup and blink allows her to get a down fast which is sometimes necessary.
Personally my evaluation of traits on Naiad is:
- Patroller - plays into her strenghs (setup, water dmg, camp)
- Blink - helps her blindspots (god pallets, windows, usually needing setup/time to get a down)
- Warp - helps her blindspots (map pressure) while also having synergy with her kit (biiiig puddle)
50:16 .... or you can be goated and warp for a terror shock
I do think Warp can work like this as well to counter transitional kiting. As Naiad you usually want to force people into the open so you can get a hit and warp technically helps be on top of them when they do so, but I agree - I feel like against most survivors this would not work as well as it did here.
54:52 !!! big brain..... I was thinking maybe impact was bc she would try to pressure ciphers with warp but priestess portal counter.... and warp makes sense when theres a priestess too. you cant go blink-only when theres a global portal.
Watching these tournaments really makes me excited for coa seeing a transitional period in the meta where people are experimenting with new characters makes me so happy so now we don’t see the same few characters and new characters get a chance especially ones we previously thought were bad
fredrick and Freddy, being named Fred is the decoder meta.
1:10:15 LMAO i love how you are talking about current meta with concerned/surprised voice and then “There’s a Sanrio Cheerleader there”😂😂 Idk but it cracked me up ahaha
10:28 just wanted to point out how smart the female dancer is for rescuing only after composer got hit: guaranteeing a safe rescue. i certainly wouldn’t be able to pull that off without good comms and I don’t think I have dancer’s patience or the brain cells to think of it. one of the little things that distinguishes a top player from good/mid level.
I love these tournaments omgg, I'm thinking of maining composer soon. Great video as always!
Moral of the story: Apologise for being French
55:07 DREAM WITCH 😵💫they actually played her gyatt damn
I actually love when you rant about the meta, it’s super interesting to hear so many different takes on the current climate of things!!!!
26:33 appreciate your consideration of the pace of the match Zee!!
Chances are we were gonna rewind to see something anyway so go for it too heh
COMPOSER MAINS RISE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🔥🔥
your videos help me get through my precalc homework 😭
OF COURSE this drops when I stopped playing composer and lost my b badge...
FINALLY, he's my main
I really wonder whos going to be the next meta hunters in the future
WOOOO COMPOSERRRRR, BEST OSU, PROJECT SEKAI, PIANO TILES, FRIDAY NIGHT FUNKIN, SCRATCHIN MELODY AND OTHER RHYTHM GAMES PLAYER!!!! 🔥
Me leaning into my own mic (that I don’t have or own): you will not get me to use flywheel. EVER. anyway these matches were too intense. I’m out here sweating. Also the fact I didn’t get to hear MIKE GAMING is so sad. seeing coord back out on the field is giving old tournament matches. Oh and i never bought into abnormal 😭😭😭 I feel like it only really works on specific characters, specific hunters, specific maps and specific lineups. A lot of RNG. I never felt like it was consistent enough.
Now, here's the yapper
44:32 'opera and ivy singer' I caught you zeez
I love doing calculus homework while also playing idv while also watching Zee do silly things
LETS GO MORE TOURNAMENT CONTENT 💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽
What a fun video this was, I love your commentary and that set omg???
these videos are so much fun, can’t wait for faro in competitive XDDD
ive always believed in you frederick 🙏 let him dominate the world
im so happy dream witch is being played again i missed my queen
WOO i cheered i love your tournament videos
best day of my life i just got composer like a few days ago and now he's meta ish
hi zeez, I love your content thank you for making my school mornings better 🔥🙏
The day minds eye is deemed a good character is the day I scream tears of joy
COMPOSER MY BELOVED I KNEW YOU COULD MAKE IT IN THE BIG LEAGUESSSSS (pls don’t nerf him 😭)
I love composer so much lol, I just hate doing calibrations
thank you zeez for saying antiquarian isnt a no skill character 😭😭 just because shes good doesnt mean she doesn't take time to learn . like getting used to her swings at first was so difficult for me plus her harassment is also kind of difficult to get considering how close to the hunter u havw to be
watching while auto decoding as composer, this is peak
Frederick is so pretty
im so happy i got to see pro naiad content today 🎉🎉🎉
Super hype set!!
Nice, video to watch as I settle down after work :] Looking forward to the watch! Thank you, Zeez
OMG FINN IS BACK???? YESYESYESYESY FINN GAMINGG AYYSYSYSYSSYSYSYS🔥🔥🔥
RAHHHHH COMPOSER METAAAA!!!!!
Sidenote1:
When playing IDV as an early player, you can call me silly when I say this, but I thought Sui builds with rescuers would've been alright.
Of course, the rescuer should still bring tide, but back then, I didn't understand why rescuers would bring BT.
It's not typical for rescuers to take first kite anyway. Especially like a mercenary or first officer.
[Sidenote2: MERC is the only rescuer I can understand why BT would be necessary due to the fact he can do a detention rescue and full health is needed.]
But someone like FO is a rescuer I DEFINITELY wouldn't want to chase after [imo], for not only does he have items to work with, but the fact he has a long chair time, longest in game matter of fact.
Considering that as a surv, that would make me think: Why would a hunter wish to chase me as rescuer? If they don't chase me, why would I need BT?
Of course, that is situational. Like, you never know when you as a rescuer might actually be taking kite or a double hit near endgame, or even a TS. But, this is not an often scenario, so why not take the risk [imo].
Of course when I play rescuers I bring BT and tide, but to this day I am still wondering why Sui on rescuers [tide a must in this SUI] is considered, odd/unacceptable. I am open to answers. 😭
Sidenote3: Of course, Coord is an exception.
Good day to be a composer main
Thank you Ivy and Sangria for mixing up the meta... even though i kinda loathe both of you........................
COMPOSER MY BOYYY MY FIRST MAINNNN FREDERICK I LOVE YOU 🫶🫶
COMPOSER IS FINALLY GETTING THE LOVE AND ATTENTION POOKIE DESERVES!!! With the power of Skibidi V…. Anything is possible.
COMPOSER 🎼 YIPPEE
Gr did so good omg
Composer gaming guys🙏🙏🙏
the more i see objectively bad characters start to shine… the more i pray for a photographer meta 😻🤭
Composer gameplay
37 minutes early i stopped watching heathers for this
I want edgar meta back vro
playing composer but kiting feels so wrong but so right
Didnt watch hte vid yet but I counter Ivy with Frederick so hard
Zeez you have to see WBG vs GR when N1e played wax (He got cliped) he got bullied so bad i wanna see your reaction to it !
I mean honestly just ban cheer and the composer meta goes 📉
Frederik 😍
Peck composer ofc
FREDERICK 😢😢😭😭😭😍😍
Identity V X Bravely Default when
hi gamers new zeez vid pog
53:07 eat some water
im sorry to say that im french
44:32 WHO is ivy singer 😭
Petition to make this the ship name of opera and ivy
@@chainreaction2731 omg real.. They're so cute actually hello
ZeEEeez
Hello
my girlfriend loves you a lot, can you say hi to her in the replies?
Zeez er :3
Ezeeees
No
Flywheel tide my goat
I’m early
Wtf
COMPOSER GAMINGGG
Ur tournament videos are actually so well explained and relaxing to watch😭😭 u understand this game so well!! Thanks zeez! 🤍🤍