TheFireflyGrave Just because a card gets discounted doesn't mean you get any benefit from it. You have to spend your mana efficiently or else the cards might as well be their original cost. That said, the card traded 6 mana and a card to create a 5/5 and generate 12 mana when you account for mana efficiency. Also the card survived for three turns which is unlikely to happen.
borredDead Dude even for one turn if it returns you 5 mana it's for value's sake a 0 mana 5/5 that the enemies ALWAYS use removal to kill it or if not you get a second or third discount too. It's really good there's no denying that
Stelios Aek He's not arguing that's not good. He's saying that's unless you can spend your mana efficiently, IE if one floats mana after playing discounted cards but still only made, let's say 1 or two plays you could have done anyway, then there may as well have never been a discount in the first place, thus a wasted effect.
malthe petersen handlock is where the warlock mostly just keeps things in his hand and his cards benefit off that and its really slow and to help with that it has molten giants then they have taunts to try to make sure they dont lose
There needs to be fanart of Thaurissan running a discount mana store, or a discount card shop and he's got a cheesy slogan like "discounts discounts discounts" or "1 less mana on your entire hand or your mana back!"
14:36 - Double discount was available XD. Argus the thaurissan and watcher, shadow flame and then dark bomb or owl the watcher then argus the thaurissan and watcher and dark bomb.
Also at 14:47, Trump could have used Defender of Argus, then Shadowflame the buffed Ancient Watcher, and then used darkbomb on the Alextrasza, so his emperor would have been alive. Why didnt he do that?
at 14:20, why didnt Trump tap to get the next card discounted? I know his next draw would have been too many cards, but at least he would have still got the discounted card. Was he worried about health?
In the first match, when the hunter summoned 3 doggies, I would have attacked 2 dogs with the twilight drake and argus, then face with the molten. Is that wrong, or did Trump just not think about taking a middle ground between trading all and hitting face with all?
***** But 2/3 wouldn't represent the number of people who had commented already. Two out of three seems like more of a coincidence than eight out of twelve. I wrote it in a way that better portrays the message I wanted to get out there: that an abnormal amount of people behave in a certain way. Point is: the 8/12 was an abbreviated way of saying eight out of twelve, not eight twelves. There's a slight difference that makes the way I wrote it more correct than what you suggested.
Tom McGraw I guess he swapped it out for Thaurissan, looking back there aren't many points where the Thaurissan would have been more useful as a siphon soul except maybe the warrior game, so seems good
LeNunan Maybe he could use it instead of one of his hellfires, since those usually sit idle in his hand for most of the game, and that way he would be able to use his dark bombs and minions elsewhere on big health/priority targets
The down side of this game is that the more it releases content the more impossible is to play it for free... I even try to buy stuff but since I live in brasil, blizz doesnt accept my credit card, no idea why. So I just sit here and watch pros play since its impossible to go beyond rank 10 with free to play decks now. Before naxx, goblins etc yeah it was. Now the grind is really high for a newcomer to be able to get something good without spending at least 200 bucks
Thierry Girard you do know that trump only spent like maybe 20 bucks on hearthstone? he doesn't even have all cards! he even bought all blackrock mountain wings with coins. Just keep playing and getting better,arena is going to reward you
Man, my Handlock is identical to this, Minus the zombie chow and Rag and I barley got to rank 15 with it. It's a combination of my horrible playing and all that aggro. ):
1st game - can not comprehend Trump's logic. Hunter has no cards in hand, no board and only a snake trap in play. Why not just play Rag and take the free 8 damage? Yes Rag's the slow play but also the safe one; not that Trump could have possibly known dogs were coming but it would have minimized the potential blowback.
Malacite Rag is the faster play (it's like a randomly hitting charge), Molten is the slower play. When people can they should play the slower play before the faster play, since the faster play can catch up to the slow one. In this case, they even do the same damage, and Molten can be aimed if needed. I guess that's the reason he played Rag after.
TheTyGamez well.. the use of rag in this deck is value and another bgh target, so its better to swap in another bgh'able target in there instead of siphon soul :)
Pynek1999 While the "best" decks have a fair few good legendaries in them, Face Hunter has barely any and was incredibly powerful for a while, and it's been proven before that an All Legednary deck is generally not that great.
Did you have fun with Hafu? Of course, it is a lot of fun hanging out with gorgeous asian chicks. Khm, i mean with people who do the same thing you do :)
How in the fuck do you play this all day. This game is so fucking broken. I can't build decks because I am broke. I can't compete with anyone and i lose all the rank I made instantly. I lose every arena with less than 3 wins. I don't understand why new players so punished and experienced players are so low ranked
MeffinV Well the honest way to out this sorry to say is get better, I'm at rank 6 currently which is a rank I'm reasonably happy with, and I've only ever spent $40 in this game, and I started in october of 2014, which isn't too long of a time period really, I feel that the real reason new players are punished is because they don't know how to play, even coming from other games like MTG, long story short watch trump's intro videos, come to a few streams, learn how to play and then you'll get better.
![Twenty One Pilots - “The Line” (from Arcane Season 2) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/E2Rj2gQAyPA/mqdefault.jpg)
lol "belcher rise and taunt once more!" - Trump2015. priceless
***** go back to kripps channel dickwad
***** pass me the salt homie
If you include the discounts Thaurissan earned in that game against the priest toward his mana cost, he basically cost -13 mana.
TheFireflyGrave That's why it's almost an auto-include to any non-face decks
TheFireflyGrave Just because a card gets discounted doesn't mean you get any benefit from it. You have to spend your mana efficiently or else the cards might as well be their original cost. That said, the card traded 6 mana and a card to create a 5/5 and generate 12 mana when you account for mana efficiency. Also the card survived for three turns which is unlikely to happen.
TheFireflyGrave Thaurissan is a pretty sick card. His discounts pretty much gave trump that win.
borredDead Dude even for one turn if it returns you 5 mana it's for value's sake a 0 mana 5/5 that the enemies ALWAYS use removal to kill it or if not you get a second or third discount too. It's really good there's no denying that
Stelios Aek He's not arguing that's not good. He's saying that's unless you can spend your mana efficiently, IE if one floats mana after playing discounted cards but still only made, let's say 1 or two plays you could have done anyway, then there may as well have never been a discount in the first place, thus a wasted effect.
Warrior Control v. Handlock is the best matchup to watch.
Kappa
Derpy Squids nice meme
aethertech Personally, it's amazing to play. At least for me, who tends to favor slow control matchups over braindead play shit on curve ones.
aethertech what is handlock
malthe petersen handlock is where the warlock mostly just keeps things in his hand and his cards benefit off that and its really slow and to help with that it has molten giants then they have taunts to try to make sure they dont lose
new drinking game, whenever Trump says "insane" take a shot
well done copying someone elses comment
shuvo rahman tbh i don't know what your talking about, however, i can see why many people would have this thought.
CODandponies no patrick, drinking alone is alcoholism, not a game.
Light bomb is the bomb. . . dot com.
-Trump, 2015
Made my day :D
lol 2015 indeed. That's such a 90s thing to say
Considering it was an old style priest, i kept waiting for mind blast holy fire to come out an just ruin Trumps day.
Woelke Yeah so many chance for double mind-blast lethal too. Aggro Priest FTW
Woelke Old School decks ftw.
I think i need to change pants after that warrior game...
There needs to be fanart of Thaurissan running a discount mana store, or a discount card shop and he's got a cheesy slogan like "discounts discounts discounts" or "1 less mana on your entire hand or your mana back!"
Thank you Trump I was really praying you'd upload part 2 soon!
Centasma *jens
I could see smoke coming out of Trump's ears on the last few turns of that Control Warrior match.
Wow that handlock vs warrior game was sick
Is it true you and hafu are expecting your firstborn?
Her name will be Hump, based off their two names.
TheGamingPro hehe.. hump.... hehehheheehhehekekekkekekeek
TheGamingPro Or Trufu
***** lik if u cri evr tim :`(
TheGamingPro Nicknames*
15:00 Sylv+ Shadow would had been a nice thing to watch.
Trump OP
14:36 - Double discount was available XD. Argus the thaurissan and watcher, shadow flame and then dark bomb or owl the watcher then argus the thaurissan and watcher and dark bomb.
At 4:40, Trump missed the opportunity to shadowflame something and let Hunter hear "DIE INSECT" !
Is there a game missing between the games at 9:37? He went from rank 12 to 24.
Shadowl3lade he played a different deck in between
Niroc bosswaldo probably face hunter Kappa
birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, and hunters gotta face.
23:00 Unbelievable this game has been release for a year now...
Also at 14:47, Trump could have used Defender of Argus, then Shadowflame the buffed Ancient Watcher, and then used darkbomb on the Alextrasza, so his emperor would have been alive.
Why didnt he do that?
Does anyone know where the original art for the Thumbnail comes from? Searching it for ages!
L0LWTF1337 i found this www.desktopwallpapers4.me/games/world-of-warcraft-18042/
by putting the thumbnail in the google image search.
Why would you hit the face with argus at 4:24? Reduces win percentage by a massive amount (both by rag hit and top deck).
Well played on that 3rd game Trump.
sad that this deck isn't that good in the current meta, i love it :)
at 14:20, why didnt Trump tap to get the next card discounted? I know his next draw would have been too many cards, but at least he would have still got the discounted card.
Was he worried about health?
Anyone notice at around 9:30 he went from 12 to 24?
fred mat he played a different deck in between
How much do you bet that the next hearthstone update/adventure will give power to pirates and murlocs.
In the first match, when the hunter summoned 3 doggies, I would have attacked 2 dogs with the twilight drake and argus, then face with the molten. Is that wrong, or did Trump just not think about taking a middle ground between trading all and hitting face with all?
Can someone please tell me what armor that warlock is using in Trump's thumb nail
Turn on the subtitle from 6:12
Nothing goes to waste!
I want the artwork of the youtube video picture. Anyone know where I can find it?
8/12 comments so far are "Not Xth" can someone explain when this started being a thing?
akeron1an 8/12 is the same thing as 2/3. Please reduce your fractions, thank you
***** But 2/3 wouldn't represent the number of people who had commented already. Two out of three seems like more of a coincidence than eight out of twelve. I wrote it in a way that better portrays the message I wanted to get out there: that an abnormal amount of people behave in a certain way.
Point is: the 8/12 was an abbreviated way of saying eight out of twelve, not eight twelves. There's a slight difference that makes the way I wrote it more correct than what you suggested.
Paden ODell Well... I have no idea what any of that meant. Mind clarifying?
Phone went ham in my pocket. Lol
Paden ODell well, that explains an awful lot xD
Why doesn't trump have any siphon souls in his deck?
Tom McGraw I guess he swapped it out for Thaurissan, looking back there aren't many points where the Thaurissan would have been more useful as a siphon soul except maybe the warrior game, so seems good
LeNunan Maybe he could use it instead of one of his hellfires, since those usually sit idle in his hand for most of the game, and that way he would be able to use his dark bombs and minions elsewhere on big health/priority targets
True, he ended up using double hellfire as an 8 cost fireball a few times
Tom McGraw The meta has way too many aggro. Hellfire is needed, I suppose.
Tom McGraw Because face hunter. You need early game removal/minions against aggro decks. Siphon Soul just won't cut it
hahahhah the subtitles man too funny lmao
At 32:24 I would have hell fired, ran the mountain into sylvanas, play jarax and hit the cabal with the jarax weapon.
Jay Bertetto That is actually a really good play
So handlock is anti agro and good against face hunter?
This is the drug that i wanted
The down side of this game is that the more it releases content the more impossible is to play it for free...
I even try to buy stuff but since I live in brasil, blizz doesnt accept my credit card, no idea why.
So I just sit here and watch pros play since its impossible to go beyond rank 10 with free to play decks now. Before naxx, goblins etc yeah it was. Now the grind is really high for a newcomer to be able to get something good without spending at least 200 bucks
Thierry Girard you do know that trump only spent like maybe 20 bucks on hearthstone?
he doesn't even have all cards!
he even bought all blackrock mountain wings with coins.
Just keep playing and getting better,arena is going to reward you
yeah, but he spent buying packs when gvg released if im not mistaken. He didnt want to stay behind the curve.
Man, my Handlock is identical to this, Minus the zombie chow and Rag and I barley got to rank 15 with it.
It's a combination of my horrible playing and all that aggro. ):
OfficialMuffin Maybe you should throw the chows in there. Best card vs face hunter.
Silence the mind control OP OP OP
Something strange happened. Was at rank 12, won and then rank 24. Either he took a break or lost a game not in the video?
Allan Wright Games not shown in video :) on youtube you see only part (best games) of what you see on the stream !
Allan Wright He played a different deck in between
Allan Wright He played a different deck in between
1st game - can not comprehend Trump's logic.
Hunter has no cards in hand, no board and only a snake trap in play. Why not just play Rag and take the free 8 damage? Yes Rag's the slow play but also the safe one; not that Trump could have possibly known dogs were coming but it would have minimized the potential blowback.
Malacite Rag is the faster play (it's like a randomly hitting charge), Molten is the slower play. When people can they should play the slower play before the faster play, since the faster play can catch up to the slow one. In this case, they even do the same damage, and Molten can be aimed if needed. I guess that's the reason he played Rag after.
I want to play handlock i have jarraxus ans gaents and i'm going to craft a nother legendrary. Do i have to craft ragnaros or dr.boom ?
Dorian Martinel archmage antonidas
Dr Boom is your choice!
Dude is this even a questtion you can craft a good legendary rag or the best legendary in the game Dr boom
shuvo rahman Dr Balanced vs The Almighty King of RNG, Killer or Insects Swagnaros the Firelord.
I know which I'd pick (Dr Balanced)
R.i.p maexxna lol
Could I just use siphon soul instead of rag? Only card I don't have
Tevan Pinrut Indeed, the question is whether you want a good deck or an awesome deck.
TheTyGamez well.. the use of rag in this deck is value and another bgh target, so its better to swap in another bgh'able target in there instead of siphon soul :)
I mean, there is already 5 BGH targets...
So happy he beat that hunter at the start. Hunter has ruined the game for me.
I saw some sort of Handmage today. 😟
9:20 You could've stolen the abusive for more swag.
What is that software that shows the deck?
LOL LOL Jens and Trump have magical powers, dont question it or you will die.
LOL LOL Jens.exe
8:38 Why did it matter which one you played? 0.o
Jaraxxus or Alex?
** Ess3laRGamingHD ** Jaraxxus ,,BY FAR''
finally not pokemon uploads. -.-
Why didnt he sylvannas and shadow flame, so he can get double discount and 8/3 alex :/
LEEEEERRRRROOOOOYYYYYY JEEEEENNNNNKKKKKIIIIIIINS
Trump, coulda played Sylv and then Shadow flame and take his Alex.
a better time...
I like this game, but its true legendary win games ;/
Pynek1999 While the "best" decks have a fair few good legendaries in them, Face Hunter has barely any and was incredibly powerful for a while, and it's been proven before that an All Legednary deck is generally not that great.
Pynek1999 see how many games you can win with the deck of legends then...
Not combo breaker
Lord Slime Stop oppressing me
Did you have fun with Hafu? Of course, it is a lot of fun hanging out with gorgeous asian chicks. Khm, i mean with people who do the same thing you do :)
"will he pass ... that would be interesting" aaahh you forget, this is face hunter. Nothing about that deck is ever interesting
should of shadowflame at 4:40 and let rag win
Antonio Craveiro should have*
Gabriel Dasaro i meant to say shoulder off
Again?
Not 14th
Coin Mountain Giant Kappa.
Not eighth
not 348th
This is a warlock video but the thumbnail is of a Mage in tier 10 icc. Unacceptable.
went from 12 to 24 :(
Free to play warrior pls
not sixth
Not Fourth
9:23 Rank 12 and 9:39 Ranl 21 Wtf? Show us your dishonor
Adrian Gar That´s for the misplay at 8:58 He shouldn´t have killed the abusive, Silvana would have stolen it. ^^
not tenth
not third
Not Second
70th! :D .. :C
Not 69th
Not First!
How in the fuck do you play this all day. This game is so fucking broken. I can't build decks because I am broke. I can't compete with anyone and i lose all the rank I made instantly. I lose every arena with less than 3 wins. I don't understand why new players so punished and experienced players are so low ranked
MeffinV Well the honest way to out this sorry to say is get better, I'm at rank 6 currently which is a rank I'm reasonably happy with, and I've only ever spent $40 in this game, and I started in october of 2014, which isn't too long of a time period really, I feel that the real reason new players are punished is because they don't know how to play, even coming from other games like MTG, long story short watch trump's intro videos, come to a few streams, learn how to play and then you'll get better.
If it makes you feel better: I started playing this game in the open beta and I still can't go past rank 10 and get about 3-4 wins in the arena
Hawle :P thanks :)
MeffinV stop caring about rank and all your problems will go away...
not sixth
not tenth