A Classical Harpist’s First Rock Drum Lesson
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I never imagined myself sitting down at a drum set, but when the opportunity arose I jumped at the chance. Here is my first experience on the drums in the form of a lesson with rock drummer Karl Sloman. It was a fun experience and I hope you’ll enjoy watching it.
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Amy Shafer, LRSM, FRSM, RYC, is a classical harpist, pianist, and music teacher, Director of Piano Studies and Assistant Director of Harp Studies for The Harp School, Inc., holds multiple degrees in harp and piano performance and teaching, and is active as a solo and collaborative performer. With nearly two decades of teaching experience, she teaches privately, presents masterclasses and coaching sessions, and has performed and taught in Europe and USA.
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Amy, you show a lot of humility to be an accomplished professional musician and yet allow yourself to be filmed “performing” the playing of a brand new instrument unedited. Great work from both teacher and student.
At first I was "merely" AMAZED at how quickly Amy took to playing the drums, and even played them PERFECTLY a few minutes in. Now, at 22:20, I just got GOOSEBUMPS. Hats off to Amy Shafer! (Led Zep reference intentional.)
Can I get the link to that video he reffers to at 1:35? Thanks!
Now Amy must give Karl a harp lesson.
Ah and she did! But I was not nearly a good!
Yes, please!
I want to see that!
@@karlsloman5320 Maybe this can get you interested to take more harp lessons with Amy, as it can expand the harp sound even further for its use in rock music; not sure if Amy might be interested as well, though: ruclips.net/video/fNINWMqxQQc/видео.html 😊
Yes.. mandator
I’m a drummer and that’s the first time I’ve seen a beginner pick up a basic groove as you did! Hats 🎩 off!
Managed to pick up this exact groove with a filler in 10 minutes beeing a guitarist. For me, the most dificult part is the bass drum, I just can't relax.
But only one the & of 4!
After a few more lessons she will be playing the opening to Over the Mountain by OZZY OSBOURNE
Don't you mean... Hi-hats off? 😶
@@RocketEightEight I'm a guitarist first, dummer second, and get what you're saying. Keep at it, pretty soon you'll relax.
Speaking as a classically trained percussionist who got his start on the drum set, this was a lot of fun to watch. Welcome to drumming!
Amy keeps teaching us - she just gave us a lesson in how to learn.
I can't wait for Amy's first lesson at shredding on the electric guitar!
My thoughts exactly 🎸
YES!!!! 🎸
Can't till she does a Nils Lofgrin
The way she looks at those drum sticks 🙂 She is so genuine and funny 🥰
As other drummers have said here before me: I've never seen a newbie pick so much so well so fast!!! Awesome! ❤
So another thing that helped me in getting it. Playing the drums is really just a form of Dancing. Really, you are just dancing with the timing of the song. If you know how to dance and keep time, just apply those principles to the drums.
As a gigging drummer, I enjoy watching people learn drums.
Most drummers learn to lead with their right hand if they are right-handed, or vis versa when left-handed, and cross-handed on the high hat, but I think it's good practice to become ambidextrous to learn hand and foot independence.
That's what I was shown on my first (and only) attempt. It ended up with a badly bruised left hand -- I hit it almost as much as the HiHat. Wish I'd seen this much sooner.
@@joanarling, I think these days it's best to use the hand that most suits the student.
I refuse to teach students cross-handed technique. It's a legacy from the early 20th century that should be abandoned. It badly limits what you can play on the set, is bad for your back and shoulders, cramps your speed, your coordination, and your power. Open-hand playing is the way of the future, and having a weak and a dominant hand should become a thing of the past.
He's teaching her to play "open" right off the bat....I wish I would've learned that way.
Great job Amy. I hope you continue to learn to play drums. Please be aware that most right handed drummers play the snare with the left hand and hi-hat with right (cross over). But do what works best for you. You already have the basic rock beat with a good drum fill to use.
Lee, I played cross handed for 40 years until I started working with Dom. Then I switched to open handed for some very practical reasons (balance, strengthening the weaker side, coordination etc). It revolutionized my playing. One song that is essential for open handed playing is Dont Stop Believing and Steve Smith said he worked on open handed just to get the pattern to work. Other great players of open handed include Billy Cobham, Simon Phillip and of course Dom Famularo, who introduced me to it. Thanks for the comment, and yes, most players play cross handed, but that is simply due to the evolution of the kit, and on a modern kit, is less than optimal, but we still do it regardless.
Lee I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to Open handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did.
@@karlsloman5320 Hey Karl! Yeah, I figured you got it from Dom, since he is one of the few prominent drum instructors I have seen using open handed, and I know he is your primary teacher. I have taken several of his online courses and I have his books, but I have used his lessons mainly for further developing 4 limb coordination and developing the weaker side (my left). But for actual playing I prefer the much more standard cross handed method. For me it is much more natural to lead on the 1 with my dominant hand, which for me also works better at the steady 8th or 16th notes you typically have going most of the time. I just wanted Amy to be aware that the majority of drummers and instructors use the cross handed, except for left handed drummers since open handed is perfect for them. I was just surprised you didn't mention the two options on the video (you may have in person) and why you chose open handed, since you had to know that your fellow drummers would bring it up. You are her instructor and I don't mean to interfere, and if she continues your drumming method that makes sense she would use open handed. Although, with her already being an accomplished musician, I am sure she will gravitate to whichever one makes the most sense to her. Or maybe even freely move back and forth between the two methods. I have done it when using Dom's books and videos, so if I can do it I know Amy can. The main thing is I am sure we would both love to see Amy continue on the path of learning drums.
I feel that crossover should be introduced early as it maybe would make her feel more comfy (if right handed ofc).
I felt so proud each time she picked up on something, haha. Great work, Amy!
I expected this to be interesting and informative. My expectations were exceeded and they threw in some fun for good measure! Thanks to you both. I hope Amy was having as much fun as it looked like.
This is so fantastic! Im a guitar and bass player, have been for a long time, but became best friends with the drummer in my last band. We would practice for hours together, he got me better at counting and grooves. He even gave me a few drum lessons, its a great instrument, and you seem to take to it well. I hope we get more drum videos from you, that would be so much fun to watch your journey.
Amy ,
You did an awesome job and I’m proud of you. You give me inspiration and I know there’s others out there they’re inspired as well. Thank you 💥😊💥👍🏻💥
What a phenomenal teacher this man is.. I've always wanted to learn how to drum and this had me invigorated, thank you very much Amy and Karl.
So for me. I use left hand snare right hight hat. Anyway I use my right hand to keep time. That is the leader, the rest of the drums accompany the right hand keeping the time. Now, I am no professional by any means. That’s just how I taught myself. I did have lessons too. However, I was a Marching Mickey in high school. That means I was a drummer in the Hight School marching band. That’s where I learned the drums.
I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to open handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did.
@@karlsloman5320 I agree, if I could have learned play like that I would. My drum playing days have long passed me by though. That baton has been passed to my Son. We got him a drum set. I showed him a few things when he was 10 and now he is age 31 and can blow my doors away now.
Lol when the Terrible Twos hit !
Bonham will be therapy ! 😂😂😂
OK. This is the funniest comment ever, but I think it's the 2-year-old who will go full on Bonham! 😃
Hehehehe I can see baby in diapers doing the Tom Cruise slide from Risky Business !
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The best part is Bob Segers parents were Classical musicians ! 😂😂😂
Wasn't 'Yoyoka' starting to play the drums at the age of 2?
Loved this, and can't wait to see more. As others have commented, it'd be cool to see a first lesson on a string instrument also. What about bass? Everyone says guitar, which I'd also like to see. I just feel she could pick up bass well, she's already used to plucking strings on a harp, which seems like a natural crossover to me.
Bass would be weird! I'm sure she would pick it up very well, but I wonder if the plucking might actually be a disadvantage because she would have such strong muscle memory from the harp and the techniques are a bit different. An instrument with literally no techniques in common with harp might actual be easier to pick up like she showed here! The instruments also serve such different roles in the music too but I am sure that would not be an obstacle for her since she has such a vast understanding of music and I (a knuckle dragging bass player) manage it well enough even without that much knowledge and experience.
I’m such a fan of your videos! I was totally shocked to see you were in London Ontario my home town AND with Karl Sloman.. he was my drum teacher in my teens. So cool :)
You've taken your first steps into a larger world.
I'm looking forward to more of Amy bangin' on the skins and brass ... in ~3 months, we'll hear her bang some metal! (??) 😉🥁
Waits patiently for the Amy takes a guitar lesson, and learns how to play a Ramones song.
'Blitzkrieg Bop'! 😁👍
Amy do not forget "The Wall"
Now this is worthy education. Love it. Rock it up m'lady.
Probably pretty refreshing to teach someone that is already pretty advanced in music theory.
I was also self taught after years of classical training in piano, clarinet, guitar etc. It was in 11th grade, my school had a small music program. They decided to establish a jazz band in which I was set to play guitar. Turns out we had no drummer. Our music teacher asked me if I've ever played drums, I said nope, and he said give it a shot. From that day on, I was a drummer. The following year I was the drummer for Ensemble, which was the "elite" group of chorus that would tour around and do competitions. Looking back, starting with jazz and going right in to show tunes as an accompanist was kind of mind boggling. All with zero training, besides a few random tips from our band teacher. At 17, I auditioned and was a dual music major in college on piano and percussion.
I also started open handed on a right handed set, but not on purpose. I'm ambidextrous, and it was just the natural thing for me. I also lead with my left hand on fills. So many drummers have told me they wish they could play open handed, so I'm glad I started that way.
If anyone out there is thinking about starting music from scratch, I highly recommend piano first. I've since self-taught myself loads of instruments, and I credit that to piano training.
However, imo, drums are the easiest instrument to learn new songs on. If I'm learning a song on piano, guitar, bass etc, I'll usually need at least an hour of practice, maybe more. Drums, for most songs, I can listen to the song once or twice and I'm good to go. Just learn how to start and stop the song, and the general structure. Most popular songs repeat the same beat throughout 95% of the song.
This is so great! You are a legend!
That was great fun! With Amy learnging the "rudiments" of drumming she will be able to interpret what she is hearing all the much more. Makes me want to get behind a kit agin.
Mayhap you should get back behind said kit! I couldn’t imagine ever stopping once you have been drumming. It is by far the coolest thing i ever did, jamming with others, making music.
This is the best thing I have ever seen on RUclips.
Excellent! Good job, both of you! 👏
Yes Group...........You have to..........
Close to the Edge .......is the Song........Yes!
Being so fluent in reading sheet music is definitely an advantage. Oh, such an advantage... And having those flexible harp-player's wrists and independent fingers. I'd say 2 to 4 months to be able to play with any garage band.
Since you are a pianist, it could be fun to see you play the keyboard along with a rock band for a song or two. Different style than what you’re used to playing, but I’m sure you would pick it up in no time!
Delightful, good teacher, good student, taking the fear out of facing an army of instruments! I learned to play the kit by hitting the hi-hat with my right hand, snare with left. I'm self taught, and saw other drummers do it this way, so that's what I did. I'll have to try this method.
Amy, you are adorable as a drummer! Now you should watch Karen Carpenter's drumming and really be inspired!❤️
I was an accomplished hand percussionist before taking a serious stab at the kit (I succeeded).
Suddenly having "flippers" on the ends of my hands and feet felt weird...
We'll see how she adapts 😀
I really like that you are teaching her Open handed right off the bat.. i wish i had started that way, it's killin me to try to switch 8 years on..
P.S. i hope you really take to the drums... i played guitar for 30 years and since the day i switched to drums i have never touched a guitar again.. it's meditation and happiness all in one :) Just takes a lot of work to get good at. Wish i had started at like 8 instead of in my 40s
I learned cross-handed for the first two years, and when I switched to open-hand, I was angry that I had been taught to cross. It's like having twice as much drum kit -- the choice and freedom was almost overwhelming at first!
Before anyone else asks why I have Amy playing with her left hand on the hihat, my question would be, why should she be playing with the right hand on the hihat? But here is a more detailed explanation: I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to open handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did.
Thank you for explaining your open-handed approach, Karl! 🙂 I've been practicing to play that way for a few months now, and while I definitely recognised the advantages pretty much right away, it still feels _a lot_ more natural to me to play cross-handed, and playing with my right hand on the hi-hat just flows more evenly, too. Surprisingly, Shuffle rhythms with the left hand on the hi-hat _do_ feel quite natural, too! In any case, I'll keep at it, even if just for the sake of learning something new 😊 My 17-year-old Son had felt drawn to open-handed playing straight away, when he'd started to learn the drums about a year and a half ago! Good for him! 😀👍
PS: _This_ should've been this video's pinned comment, I reckon.
16:35 I was waiting for the guitar from Song 2 (Blur) to enter right here :D
that made me want to start beating on the drums. thank you. now off to see what a 16 piece kit is going to cost me lol
hey Karl, did you attend the 2003 RushCon in Toronto? I think we shared a few pleasantries. I was there with my sister Marie, we’re from Detroit. I was drummer before I was paralyzed by a brain aneurysm in ‘89. Your system is genius, Bravo!
Uncletom, no I have not been to RUSHCON but have always wanted to go. I just never get to it! LOL Thank you for your comment. You would love the documentary that was done about the programme I run where I teach people with Cerbral Palsy to play drum set using the headrests in their wheel chair. Just in case you are not tracking check out Neuralink by Elon Musk, I have a feeling in a few years from now you will no longer be paralyzed!!! Thank you for the comment and good luck my friend.
Good morning, First, I neglected to congratulate Amy on her upcoming prowess on the drum kit! Soon to add to her multi-instrumentalistness ( I’m pretty sure that should be a word 😎).
I was sure that we had met before, as the common phrase goes, “I never forget a face”, so too, yours struck me as a face I once met. And too bad! The RushCons are crazy cool to attend! If they continue those, I highly recommend the chance to gather and be merry with like minded Rush Aficionados. Your work with disabled folk is just an outstanding thing. If i wasn’t so macho, I’d likely make an appointment to kiss your whole face! To both you and Amy, keep up the good work. You are both so appreciated.
Wanted to address your recommendation of Neuralink by E. Musk. My right arm/hand, as well as my right leg/foot, was paralyzed in ‘89. I was recently evaluated as a candidate to receive an orthotic device called a MyoPro Arm, which would have given me some function of my right arm and hand again, along with two fingers and thumb. However, after repeated attempts, my insurance company declined to cover it as the orthotic costs a whopping $80,000! I’ve been a one armed bandit now for 34 years, and im pretty used to being this way. But I believe it used some of the tech from Musk that you mentioned.
I LOVE that he teaches open handed playing by default. Although I discovered it a bit late and it's taking me longer than desired to do the full switch to this playstyle, I believe that it has a lot of advantadges versus cross-handed, and not that many disadvantadges (if any). It would have been nice if at least he mentioned it, as you (or any student) could decide to watch videos of other drummers and get confused about what you are seeing... :)
I'd like Karl to explain why he chose to teach this pattern with the left hand for the high hat, rather than crossed arms (with right hand for the high hat, and left hand for the snare)? don't doubt that there's a good reason. I don't play drums but I learned basic patterns as a child (my brother was taking lessons), and I always saw people learning and playing crossed arms?
It's called open-hand playing. The cross-handed method is a legacy from the early 20th century which severely limits what you can play. By playing open-handed, your right hand is free to play any part of the drum kit at any time. When you play cross-handed, it locks you into just the snare and hi-hat and the other parts of the kit are very difficult to play, which creates the conventional patterns we're used to. When your hands aren't crossed you can play things like the toms during the hi-hat beats instead of having to break for a fill -- it's like having twice as much drum kit. It also means that you end up with two equally strong hands instead of a strong hand and a dominant hand.
If you'd like to see some open-hand playing, check out Billy Cobham, Dom Famularo, Ilan Rubin, and Gene Hoglan (amongst others!)
Amy pink floyd😎
What fun!!
This is great. I'd love to see you do something similar with guitar and/or bass
We are considering that.
That was impressive, Amy!!!
I look forward to hearing you play ' the black page ' on your next video.
Good student
You should take him up on his offer, 1 month to play in a band! would be soooo coool
Im a Drummer and i can see that Amy is such a fast study. She picked up on that 4/4 time real quick..very Cute Intelligent woman. 🥁🥁🥁
Was wishing that as soon as she got the rhythm, you would have pulled out a guitar and Amy would have had her first jam session.
Just down the road from me (I am in Waterloo)
I used to work at Raytheon in Waterloo and had a video store on Lorraine Ave in Kitchener.
@@karlsloman5320 I was offered a position at Raytheon once upon a time (although I stayed at my then current job). I am pretty sure I remember that store.
In some parallel universe, I'm probably at Waterloo too. I applied there twice! 😄
Great teaching Karl.
My 2 minute intro to drumming. Your job is to KEEP time and highlight its passing by SUBDIVIDING time. With 2 hands and 2 feet, you can hit 4 things at once but that gets too busy so you focus on providing an underlying "clock" via hi-hat, a slower clock with the bass drum and and emphasis on 2 and 4 in 4:4 signatures or "3" increment beats in 3:4, 6:8, etc using the snare. Cymbals emphasize key transitions at the beginning of a verse or chorus. Toms are used in "fills" to connect and differentiate between patterns used in different sections (intro, verse, chorus, bridge, coda). Simple rythyms can be played by thinking about hitting as a single thought between mind and hand... BUT... most things played at higher speeds require careful control and use of stick rebound which requires extensive time mastering "rudiments." You can skip that work and still play passable covers of most songs. However, you will cap out at about 35% of what exists to master being a drummer because the difficult stuff cannot be mastered / played via brute force. Your hands have to master stick rebound to use it for extra hits.
I love the tee shirt , my wife said I'm too old for graphic tee shirts , but I love the ones that make people stop and think. Great videos !
A true teacher! Amazing.
Very interesting and educational, thanks to the both of you.
Bravo Amy, well done ! Karl plays open style drumming and not the common cross-stick style. Can Karl comment on why he prefers open style? It is said that playing the high-hat is easier with the dominant hand since it leads and is used the most. Are either one of you left-handed?
William Great Question!!! Okay hang on here we go. I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to open handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did. Thank you for the great question!
@@karlsloman5320 Thanks for taking the time to answer my question in such detail!
So cool to watch!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Your musical ”journey” is soo great.
Thanks for sharing.
And the owl is flying.
This will be fun😅
Well done, Amy! and well taught Karl!
There was such a lack of instruments when I was at school the teacher showed us a simple 4 4 pattern and then if you didn’t pick it up by your 3rd attempt you were off and the next person was on.
Then once you had played for maybe 1 minute without mucking up you were shown a simple fill then you were expected to be able to play along to a song.
Unsurprisingly only a very few people got to play for any length of time without being thrown off. I had trouble with using both my feet and hands at different times and then doing a fill without losing my timing.
I wish we’d been allowed to play as slowly as this and work up to the pattern instead of being shown once and expected to manage to copy it.
6 months from now she'll be playing Tom Sawyer and adding in new paradiddles none of us ever thought of
Off topic and just a suggestion but you really should check out Pat Benatar. She's a rocker but also a classically trained opera singer. I'd love to hear your take on "Images" by Saga as well..
Saga, I am friends with Steve Negus, he used to come into my school in Hamilton!
@@karlsloman5320 - That's very cool! 🤩 He's one of my favourite drummers 😊
Yay!
Love your t-shirt.
Very nice
Quite inspirational. I gained some experience through the Drum Mania arcade game (which has a full sized electronic kit layout) and now own a basic acoustic set but never took the next step of getting a lesson or studying formally. I'm not sure whether I have any "bad habits" to un-learn from my virtual playing experiences. 🤔
Fantastic!
Great!!!
Magic
Why is he saying to have the left hand on hihat?
I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to open handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did.
She'll be playing PanterA songs in no time, but watching u hit the snare with your right hand and the high hat with your left is absolutely killin' me.
Loved that. Both of you are fantastic!!!
Bravo! Nice work. Dunno if you'll take that chance to practice and stick with drums, but if you do, I'd love to see an encore performance a few months down the road. :)
I know really no right or wrong, but why left hand on hi-hat ?
Is she left handed ?
Most are taught cross-handed. But I do try to do both ways to keep brain active.
She did great !!!
Google open-hand drumming. It's a superior technique that gives huge advantages. Cross-handed shouldn't be taught anymore, it's extremely limiting.
Well done Amy.....
Is not the right hand hitting the hi-hat and the left the snare drum?
They do things kind of funny in Canada
Not if you want to develop your weaker side and be a balanced drummer. Here check this out. I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to Cross handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did.
I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to Open handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did.
@@karlsloman5320 I haven't seen any drum player with a weak side. And I haven't seen any drum player - like in the video - playing the drums like this. Do you know any drum player from any band which plays or played like this?
I’m but alone in my observation of teaching open handed for beginners. Weird yes, but I understand the logic, and can instantly see the benefits; it’s just not what is usually done (traditionally). Most examples of open handed players I’m aware are either lefties or righties playing opposite setup kits (Copeland, Ringo, Puff) or to accomodate kit setups (Phillips, hoglan) or even compositions (smith). I’m currently adapting to play both left and right handed (and footed) and open handed. My challenge to myself it to be able to do all seamlessly just for fun - I play a basic 4 piece kit so there is no other logic for this decision (for me).
great job. job
this was so fun and informative!!
Well done! 4-way coordination is difficult, but it looks like you're well on your way. Drum kit playing is akin to dancing, with repetitive movements of arms and legs interspersed with occasional "freestyle" moments. I hope you get that kit for Christmas!
instandly it comes "dont bring me down" by ELO in my mind.
On next week's episode... Amy plays Meshuggah's Bleed.
this dude teaches open handed without disclaimer? haha he should at least mention that its rather exotic
Why should there be a disclaimer and what would the actual disclaimer say? Playing cross handed is actually detrimental to progress. Did Jimmy Hendrix need a disclaimer for playing a Right Handed Stratocaster, left handed?
@@karlsloman5320 It should be mentioned that the most common M.O. of drummers is playing crosshanded and that the teacher will teach openhanded for specific good reasons. While traditional grip is mostly a thing of the past in drumset, crosshanded is still considered "standard"
Great lesson. I played a bit of drums before playing guitar. I had the conceptual aptitude for it,but not the coordination. I also didn't have anyone to teach me.
I wish all students were like Amy!
Are you left-handed Amy?
I play drums and I would not consider playing this with the left hand on the hi-hat. Is there a particular reason for this choice?
Ikr. It's driving me nuts.
It's just a way that some people play. Gene Hoglan is the one example off the top of my head that plays open-handed, as it's called, there's no major advantage either way (I personally play both ways but I'm more comfortable crossing over because that's how I initially learned) but playing open-handed can offer some freedom for your right hand to play interesting patterns because it's not trapped by your right arm going across the kit.
I provided a huge explanation earlier on. It is unfortunate you feel that way as Open Handed playing has so many benefits. If I can find the reply I will post it here for you.
Here you go... I played cross handed for most of my career but switched to Cross handed when i started lessons, at age 40 with Dom Famularo (The Worlds Drumming Global Ambassador). Open handed provides immense opportunities that cross handed does not. First, the snare hand (left hand for right handed drummers) is locked on the snare when you cross your sticks, this prevents creativity of allowing the left hand to go anywhere on the kit. Next Balance. most drummers play hihat with their dominant hand, that is fine, but for most patters you would end up strengthening your already strong hand, by moving to open handed playing you strengthen the weaker side, which allows for better balance. Strength, in addition open handed playing strengthens the hand which allows you to play faster and more accurately because your are limited by your weaker limb. There are certain songs, Journey, Don't Stop Believing, which was written by Steve Smith with the Open handed playing method in mind. Creativity, once you go to open handed your left hand can explore the left side of the kit while the right can explore the right side of the kit. This has a very large impact (no pun intended) on your drumming, because you haem now 'realised" the hand to play additional parts. Finally Coordination, which in my opinion i everything when it comes to drumming. By playing open handed playing you start to develop a higher level of coordination and you end up playing patterns you would never have played before because now the left hand is free to do so. Stamina. My favourite song to play on the drums is Tom Sawyer (Rush), however, playing 16th notes at 88 BPM for 5 minute is really difficult, at least when you get older, using open handed you can swap from playing cross handed to open handed easily, which allows the hihat hand to take a break. I have found that cross handed playing was limiting my playing. So people say, do what works for you, but how do you know what works for you if you have never tried it? I now use both methods but mostly open handed as I have found the benefits are profound, even though it took me a serious period to time to become proficient, but I am really glad I did. Thank you for the great question!
@@karlsloman5320 Thankyou for the well thought out reply. It has definitely given me something to think about with my drumming.
Sir, I learned this with the opposite hands, I. E. the snare left, high hat right crossed over, I think I was about 9 years old. But the snare on 3 and bass on 1 for a standard rock beat. Does that sound correct? Chuck also taught me the traditional in between the fingers jazz grip. Later I just went to regular on my own.
Ahaha 😂how courageous!
Great job. I think any professional musician can pick up the drums, because it's mainly "mechanical" with timing and rhythm which you already know. The other trick is to handle the sticks "like dribbling a basketball". The finger/hand/wrist/arm/shoulder power transfer to sticks and using the rebound energy of the drum heads. There is a specific finger holding groove, but it should be "found" organically. Grip the sticks as you feel most comfortable and controllable, then as you gradually develop coordination it will come to you. That's where drills and rudiments come in handy. Also, as any disciplined professional musican knows it's practice and repetition. Familiarity comes from practice, and so both hands and both feet will soon find it's place.
Uhh , as a drummer myself you set the fulcrum by putting the stick in the meat between the first and second joints!! Placing it in the joint will cause you to drop sticks more!!
I very much enjoy your website and you have inspired me to write some music on my guitar. When you get time, I think you would do this website a great service by covering The Dave Mathews band.
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Next lesson - guitar intro for Young Man Blues off Live at Leeds 🎸
It seems to me that the kit is setup wrongly for Amy. The hi-hat and kick are usually the same side - left or right.