My favorite concept has been and continues to be a rogue trader with a mechanicus and votann aboard, the votann dude watching in horror as the mechanicus guy pours motor oil on himself to grease parts, before the dwarf grabs a nearby guardsmans Lazgun and makes it fire 10% faster because no one has taken it apart in 10 years and cleaned the grease out of it.
@@sookendestroy1 "Perform the Rites of Gear Blood Transfusion" "....Right... hamuna hamuna hamuna I shall use this ancient bristled caresser to clean the gr- Gear Blood off"
I love how you mentioned that Humanity is basically the Skaven of 40k, because it makes so much sense when you think about it. They treat their average soldier like their lives are worth less than their bullets? Check. They are extremely religious? Check. They fight themselves as much as they fight their enemies? Check. The list keeps going.
Also, they spend most of their time punking one another in disconnected Tribes/Civilizations before a "God"-like entity stepped in and said "Let's punk the other races".
They differ in one crucial detail… Each Skaven thinks they’re, “That Guy.” Each one thinks everyone’s stupid, but me. Each one is burdened with grand purpose. They all feel that with enough scheming, and killing that they’re going to end up as the boss one day. The humans of 40k could be so lucky as to be delusional enough to dream that they’re anything more than meat for the meat grinder.
Even more specifically I’d say the ADMECH are the Skaven- councils of old crazy people? Check. Constantly creating body horror amalgamations of horrifying technology? Assassins ripping people apart? Snipers with really long guns? Check! I did a direct unit comparison once and realized there is a lot in common. 🤣
@@leventhumps3861You're absolutely Correct. Skaven Society leaves room for ambition, whereas in Imperial Society, such delusions will inevitably push you into an early grave or a Tzeentchian scheme.
An episode on the Rogue Traders would be awesome! They're basically the only dudes in all of 40k, or at least the Imperium, that could actually be described as 'free'.
When the Votann were released, tournaments flat out refused to take/accept Votann lists, until they were nerved massively, the high strength of them in 9th edition was the weakened version of them on release
I've lived long enough to know how to give bad movies a wide berth. Maybe I miss some "meh" ones along with it, but that's okay with me. Didn't see Man of Steel. Didn't wanna get mad.
@@ortiznikkomy favorite scene is from the standard tale of Justice league, where Cyborg and Superman break apart the mother boxes causing them to get flung back and as they are laying on the ground both start laughing at how much pain they are in. That scene shows Superman can laugh at himself and the situation
Yeah, Synder's superman was really bad, but then I remember that the movie flash was made and then Synder's superman still very bad but not the worst of the worst
Real talk, I love how this channel grew from a small 1.2k subs when I first found this channel to an outstanding 110k subs. I love every bit of it, more memorable because I use your podcasts while going to the gym
I think it would be the greatest thing ever if you and Adeptus Ridiculous switched out Koda and DK for a week. Don't say anything before hand, just start the episode as you always do, "I'm Isyander..." and "I'm D.K. DeAmantes!" (I don't know how to spell...) It would be a funny and interesting thing. Meanwhile Koda is stuck dealing with Bricky and Shy. I now want nothing more in this world.
I feel like that specific votann is just waiting for a single human soul to pop in and just make the iron men but with a soul because that is exactly how you counter the tyranids
@@socksman9968comparing a terminator to men of iron is like comparing a car mechanic with an homemade flamethrower to an intelligent and autonomous MBT
If i'm ever depressed, i just watch the introduction of Shadow walking up and pumping that MP5 like a shotgun it's been what like 20 years and that shit STILL cracks me up to this day
I'll take a Rogue Traders episode, but... What I would really like is more about the Eldar: history, the splits among the factions, and exactly why the Dark Eldar have to love suffering so they don't weaken and die.
52:00 Understatement of the year; Demiurg (aka as of late Leagues of Votann) are a BIG thing in Battlefleet Gothic and any book, lore, anything that has to do with TAU tech or merchant fleets. TAU literally got their ion weapons tech from the Leagues. 24:44 An interesting fact: Sentient Nebulae, or some form of it, is one of the very first Sci-Fi tropes to ever pop up in sci-fi books. For example, check Solaris by Stanislaw Lem, it was written in the early 60's and had at least one movie adaptation that I remember. It was about sentient gellatinous nebulae surrounding a planet that drove people mad by attempting to communicate with them. This theme also gave birth to one of Fermi's Paradox's solutions; sentient alien life is too alien to even attempt to understand our species.
Very good episode. A couple things to give more context for why the Leagues do what they do. The Votann are not just cool computers, when the kin put their dead into them its not just a cultural thing, it preserves their memories so they interpret that as an afterlife. That is why they will fight to the last to defend them, because that’s their heaven on the line. That is also why they are so grim, because the Votann are slowly breaking down, the Kin as a species are inevitably going to go extinct. They probably only have a few millennia left in them, and unlike the Imperium of Man or Eldar who still have some chance of bouncing back, there is no hope for the Votann long term. Maybe they can extend the life of their Votann by clearing the memory banks of all their dead kin, but that is the equivalent of emptying out heaven to make room. What would even be the point of it then?
I mean, clearing out heaven to be able to keep on living in the actual life, not the after- one, can make sense. But yeah, it's a heavy philosophical choice to make.
@@ClockwerkManconsidering how we only have examples of votann in Kin space and their very existence as AI being hated by mechanicum, the chances of building new ones are as likely as just building new stc’s out of scratch. I don’t think they would even be included in intact stc’s since Votann are very very old tech for a very specific purpose.
And the way to create a Votann is for a Fane to "evolve" into one. And apparently the way a Fane to evolve into a Votann is when enough Grimmyrs and data has gone through and cumulated into it. Aka a fane becomes a Votann when it already starts having a data overload.@@ClockwerkMan
It's in Lore that in an extremely rare and exceptionnal manner Fanes can Evolve into Votanns. That's how the Kronus Hegemony got their own Votann in lore. But the way it seems to be when a Fane (who acts like a node connecting the Kindred to the Votann). in terms of web function, The Kindred is the User, Fane is the PC, the Votann is the Distant Server+Database A PC with the proper data, programms and connection, can function as a distant server. That's how I imagine a Fane becoming a Votann. It just so happen to cumulate/recieve/manage the proper data, in the proper manner, and becomes its own independant Votann. @@clan741
@@haraldbredsdorff2699 Did someone told him to do nothing? No. So he did SOMETHING in order to try and warn his daddy, but daddy was angry at him, because he did something wrong with the thing he SAID NOTHING ABOUT!
The one thing I missed in this one (great episode otherwise btw) is their very mathematical approach to resources. They are happy to trade with others, however if they calculate it would cost less resources to trade rather than fight they will just straight up invade. The whole hatred of wastage informs EVERYTHING. If fighting would be less wasteful than trading they will fight, if trading is less wasteful they will trade. in D&D allignments terms I would call them Lawful Neutral but very Aggressive Lawful Neutral. Another pretty grimdark aspect of them is that a new spacedwarf will be created with a specific task in mind. They can never be anything other than what they are made to do. It's not a caste system but it's something similar in that you are born for a specific purpose and that purpose WILL be your life because it's literally imprinted in your genes. You can really question if they really have free will. and that's pretty insidous and dark I think.
The most shafted faction lore wise, they get squatted and after they return their lack of books and immediate nerf on the tabletop just shoved them into irrelevancy again
Things I'd love GW to do with their lore: - Expand on the Demiurg ships. Commit to what's already there. Maybe show us some of the smaller ships. - Give them a cool, dwarfish name for their subspecies. Something more distinct than "Kin" or "Squat". Demiurg is a cool name, but it's a single letter off of an existing, totally distinct concept. So not viable. - Show us how the Votann actually keep the fact that they have AI a secret from Imperials. Playing "hide and seek the Ironkin" stretches the imagination, if it's supposed to work every time. - Show us how scary the galactic core is.
I just realized something. The nebula's that are sentient could be basically baby C'tans. The only reason I'm commenting is because I rewatch/relissten y'all's stuff so much. This is like the 10th time I'm watching some of these while I do something else. I love how each one of y'all's videos are different, and how y'all deliver information is amazing. Have a good rest of y'all's day.
I was immediately shot on entering this episode, I can't believe this. Rogue Traders get my vote if only because the character creation system in the TTRPG is dope
There ARE models for female Kin/Squats, they just don't appear as short-stack sexy fantasy dwarf women, they basically look like the men, but with slightly smoother features and no beard. In fact you can see one in the video, at 41:22, the one in the left hand side of the picture, THAT is a Space Dwarf woman
Gotta say, started listening for about 3 weeks now, been tearing through these podcasts between here and spotify, might even do pateron just for the exclusive episodes. Anyway, love the new set! Can't wait to see it fill out some more!
I love hearing more about y'all. The fact that y'all went to school together is really cool. It really explains why y'all really are just family. I still can't tell if it's the best bros or y'all are each other's other half. I only get information on y'all from your podcast or videos so if y'all have specified sorry. Y'all relationship is why I keep watching y'all. The humor back and forth, how y'all deliver lines is just amazing. I really want another episode where koda hosts. I don't know how many takes it took (I don't think it took more than 2, it just might have) but that Warframe episode was really good. I still haven't finished this episode so there will be another comment from me about the leagues. Have a good rest of y'all's day.
I've seen a lot of your guys shorts, but I'm glad to watch a full episode. Can't tell you how happy I was when the votann were announced, im dead set on them being the faction I horde. ROCK AND STONE BROTHERS!
LOVE THE NEW SET UP! Love to see all the love and growth you guys have gotten this year! My vote is for the ABHUMANS! For my big jolly bodyguards of course.
Other than my wife, y'alls weekly uploads are the only thing keeping me mentally afloat rn - I subbed on Patreon but due to recent things I can't right now, but I'm so excited for the backlog of content that's building until I can! Love the content, the pacing, y'all are absolutely the best source for me for WH40K content, because I love how Isyander is teaching to Koda who knows marginally more than I do, and comes from that same perspective - Y'all are great, and have made this year bearable for me, I'm gonna try and sub again before Christmas
Damn, im just here to comment for the algorithm. But the studio looks great, and seeing this vid on my recommendations is like cracking open a cold one at the end of the week. Life's good.
idk what to say mr Isyander and mr Koda I binged everything, almost everything, it’s legit really helped thru a really bad breakup this past couple weeks, I’m really hungover rn and I’m repping Texas and I need a genestealer episode
I'm between Abhumans and Ciaphas Cane. Since the next one on the books could be Abhumans I'm going with that. And I really hope there's enough time and space for the various different types of abhumans to get spoken on in the recordings but not the Hrud. I really like the Felinids over them and I'm confused as to why the Imperium doesn't use those kitties to fight certain enemies like the Dark Eldar or something. Just like how they apparently use the Beastmen as cannon fodder or just hate them which is why those poor bastards ended up turning the chaos in the 40K setting. (Whereas in the fantasy setting they were already chaos aligned, basically chaos born). And there's so many stories that could be written about them or with them. I'm not entirely sure if they could be written from their perspective since the Imperium is so ridiculously xenophobic/racist but it's not unwarranted considering who they're constantly up against. Not against other humans but against other species. Of which they see abhumans kind of like that but at the same time many of them are mutants and you know how they hate mutants. Especially the Sisters of Battle with the bolter, flamer and melter 😏😱. Yet they're also So Human, you can't dissociate them from the rest of the Imperium without doing serious damage to the structure of it all, including all of the poor souls turned into Servitors (and I do mean the poor souls, not like that guy from Priests of Mars that was turned into an Archeoflagulent”. He had that coming in spades. Dude was like a proto Goge van Dire just starting his bloody reign). Although all of them are probably part goat since cows are pretty much canon as to happen wiped out of existence 🤔.
Abhumans are Officially "Not Mutants" since they're a stable genome and their change hasn't been caused by Chaos corruption (one of the main forms of mutation)
@@thebighurt2495 Technically they are mutants but the mutation is intentional not something that's random like somebody ending up with an arm at the back of their head or teeth with their ass should be. And the same goes for humans who are augmented on specific worlds throughout the Imperium like those who live on Fenris with their wolf genes or the people of Nocturne, especially those who become Salamander Space Marines, with their ashen black skin and charcoal red eyes. I'm sure at one point it was more mutinogenic but they refined the change to be less random and more intentional. So you're not wrong. But from that same example that I gave people from those worlds that I mentioned also, especially when Space Marines are concerned, have a tendency to mutate like from the Black Dragons Successor chapter of the Salamanders and the Wulfen of the Space Wolves which was a result of the unstable genome of the warriors who followed Leman Russ after their legion was created but suffered that feral state of transformation which exists down the lines of many of their gene seeded descendants. And the Primarchs themselves even have some unstable genes or either through sabotage, something involving the warp or some sort of microscopic mistake, several of their chapters have issues. One of the most resplendent of them all was Sanguinis and even he had the Red Thirst like his sons in the Blood Angels which through his dead, that's basically a lasting curse after fighting Horus, now also suffer the Black Rage. Not to mention that after the Cabals Horus set up to get different legions to secretly hang out and discuss strategies and whatnot outside of the Imperium's law about them interacting is likely where many successor chapters were born even from unlikely cousins of different space marines choosing to fight together than fall to chaos like Nathaniel Garo of the former Dusk Raiders who later became the Death Guard when the rest were suffering disease and sickness which was virtually impossible for them before, causing them to fall to the plague god Nurgle in surrender becoming his “Plague Marines”. It's believed that unexpected legions came together and formed the later legions especially after swapping gene seed like the Space Sharks whom to many people myself included have elements of the Night Lords, Blood Angels and Salamanders to them. Particularly the Salamanders and Night Lords from how they seemingly disappear, taking the bodies of the fallen of their battle brothers and the enemy, and from their path into battle by politely asking to join the fray of a world being besieged. They're probably the product of some sort of mutation that stabilized itself or they did it themselves through sheer will and still use it to their advantage on the battlefield before disappearing like their shark namesake, back into the depths of space. Speaking of which I'm actually surprised that there's not a Raven Guard and Dark Angels successor chapter out there called the Shadow Gryphons or something combining the Knightly order aesthetic with stealth and tactics. But if they had a mutation, it'd probably be how some of them seem to grow feathers or something but it's like a 2 in 100 of their members so it's not a frequent thing 😅😂. No reason for them to be banished by the Inquisition on some bs because they developed an Emperor blessed super power like the Fire Hawks.
The fact that the band The Longest Johns just put out their cover of doggy doggy hole makes this so much better even though it is already beautiful 😂😂 you guys always make my day. Oh also Go Ab humans!
cool new background! im enjoying watching your growth! edit: The pip boy gave me the idea of fallout lore videos! Maybe you can tease new types of content with different merchandise?
Another fantastic video, so fantastic that when I saw the Votann I didn’t really care and thought about skipping it but then didnt cus I need something to watch while I eat and glad that I did
The best interpretation I've heard for STCs is that they're not just the blueprint to make something, they're the blueprint and then further blueprints and semi-AI generated info on the tooling, factory infrastructure, and resource requirements to manufacture an item
Rogue Traders, please and thank you! And please do a Space Wolves video! Also quick question: Has Guilliman met up with them since coming back? Would he remember Bjorn the Fellhand?
Firstly, congratulations on continued success. Fell down this rabbit hole with the Farsight episode and have enjoyed every second. Two requests: Firstly, where did the Foreign Fracás disappear to? Secondly, Rogue Traders please =) Keep it up, we’re rooting for you
The blue-collar in space is aesthetic and idea is pretty much the most charming thing about the terrans in starcraft. Everybody is basically an ex-con working man who says “you want a piece of me boy?”
I love how in warhammer anything to do with tec eventually comes around to toasters like even after all this time we know the majesty of the simple toaster
Leagues: _will risk their lives to rescue a robot_
Deep Rock Dwarves: _literally failing missions to save Doretta’s head_
I'm glad it isn't just me.
no dwarf left behind and that includes Doretta😤😤❤🔥❤🔥
@@samuelschurman3762 and me too⛏⛏⚒⚒
Correction: I do not fail Dotty.
Rock and Stone to the bone.
The idea of the Votann taking a page from the Harlequins just to punk the Mechanicus is one of the funniest things I've heard of in 40K
My favorite concept has been and continues to be a rogue trader with a mechanicus and votann aboard, the votann dude watching in horror as the mechanicus guy pours motor oil on himself to grease parts, before the dwarf grabs a nearby guardsmans Lazgun and makes it fire 10% faster because no one has taken it apart in 10 years and cleaned the grease out of it.
I Invision each interaction between the Kin and Mechanicus playing out like that one Helen Keller skit from Family Guy.
Punking the mechanicus is always one of the funniest things to do in 40k
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@@sookendestroy1 "Perform the Rites of Gear Blood Transfusion"
"....Right... hamuna hamuna hamuna I shall use this ancient bristled caresser to clean the gr- Gear Blood off"
The Votann approach to the Imperium and the Mechanicus is basically "gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss"
How do you save the galaxy? "Where did Commander Farsight go?" "Oh, he took off with a whole ship of these little Hu-mons"
I love how you mentioned that Humanity is basically the Skaven of 40k, because it makes so much sense when you think about it.
They treat their average soldier like their lives are worth less than their bullets? Check.
They are extremely religious? Check.
They fight themselves as much as they fight their enemies? Check.
The list keeps going.
Also, they spend most of their time punking one another in disconnected Tribes/Civilizations before a "God"-like entity stepped in and said "Let's punk the other races".
They differ in one crucial detail…
Each Skaven thinks they’re, “That Guy.” Each one thinks everyone’s stupid, but me. Each one is burdened with grand purpose. They all feel that with enough scheming, and killing that they’re going to end up as the boss one day.
The humans of 40k could be so lucky as to be delusional enough to dream that they’re anything more than meat for the meat grinder.
PancreasNoWork actually made a video about that a while back
Even more specifically I’d say the ADMECH are the Skaven- councils of old crazy people? Check. Constantly creating body horror amalgamations of horrifying technology? Assassins ripping people apart? Snipers with really long guns? Check! I did a direct unit comparison once and realized there is a lot in common. 🤣
@@leventhumps3861You're absolutely Correct. Skaven Society leaves room for ambition, whereas in Imperial Society, such delusions will inevitably push you into an early grave or a Tzeentchian scheme.
Fun Fact:
DRG does have unions. There are 3, and they give rewards based on completing goals as a whole group.
This reminds me of a futurama quote.
"It's impossible! I mean, if she's my grandmother, then who's my grandfather?"
"Isn't is obvious? *YOU* are!"
Speaking of landmines, that Mad Core is CERTAIN to attract something bad. It's either Admech, Iron Warriors or Ahriman and I don't know what's worse.
All three at the same time?
Trayzin.
chaos cultist, or the machine reactivates the cloning vats and makes chaos dawi
Rogue Traders - we definitely need a refresher before the game drops
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Ciaphas Cain episode
Cia, cia, Ciaphas Cain, hero of the imperium.
WHY HASN’T IT HAPPENED YET!
Ci- Ci- CIaphas Cain!
Hero of the imperium!
@@paperfightingfingerpuppet1076Because of the Ultramarines.
An episode on the Rogue Traders would be awesome! They're basically the only dudes in all of 40k, or at least the Imperium, that could actually be described as 'free'.
and other than Custodes cna say Inquisition fuck off while shakking eldar maiden in front of them
When the Votann were released, tournaments flat out refused to take/accept Votann lists, until they were nerved massively, the high strength of them in 9th edition was the weakened version of them on release
Okay, I officially love Koda for calling out how bad the Snyder Superman is.
It's not THAT bad. It's meh at most.
I hated old Superman. So I loved Synder's Superman
I've lived long enough to know how to give bad movies a wide berth. Maybe I miss some "meh" ones along with it, but that's okay with me. Didn't see Man of Steel. Didn't wanna get mad.
@@ortiznikkomy favorite scene is from the standard tale of Justice league, where Cyborg and Superman break apart the mother boxes causing them to get flung back and as they are laying on the ground both start laughing at how much pain they are in. That scene shows Superman can laugh at himself and the situation
Yeah, Synder's superman was really bad, but then I remember that the movie flash was made and then Synder's superman still very bad but not the worst of the worst
Real talk, I love how this channel grew from a small 1.2k subs when I first found this channel to an outstanding 110k subs. I love every bit of it, more memorable because I use your podcasts while going to the gym
My vote goes to the abhumans. I really want to hear Isyander explaining Ogryns
I Agree
Ogryns in one sentence: Tiny brain, HUGE HEART, *MUST PROTEC TH' LITTLE'UNS!!!*
@@weldonwin Ooooh, mixed Ogryn-Leagues of Votann regiments. Just imagine the tales.
I think it would be the greatest thing ever if you and Adeptus Ridiculous switched out Koda and DK for a week. Don't say anything before hand, just start the episode as you always do, "I'm Isyander..." and "I'm D.K. DeAmantes!" (I don't know how to spell...) It would be a funny and interesting thing. Meanwhile Koda is stuck dealing with Bricky and Shy. I now want nothing more in this world.
this would e fun and much more chaotic than anyone could reasonably anticipate, but I guess it depends on how comfortable they are with each other.
ROCK AND STONE BABYYYY
Also sick new set up y’all!!!!
Also, here’s a vote for the rogue traders
ROCK AND STONE!!!!!
TO THE BOOOOOOOOONE!
WE FIGHT FOR ROCK AND STONE!!!
FOR KARL
To the BONE!
1:24 when you said "As a legion we are one" I got an image of the movie gladiator and I am all for it.
I feel like that specific votann is just waiting for a single human soul to pop in and just make the iron men but with a soul because that is exactly how you counter the tyranids
May you elaborate further
Tyranids can rip terminators in half men of iron are easy claps - nid gang
@socksman9968 respect the wank 🤌
@socksman9968 no food though. Even if they win they gain nothing; no organic matter to replace losses. Theyd lose to attrition.
@@socksman9968comparing a terminator to men of iron is like comparing a car mechanic with an homemade flamethrower to an intelligent and autonomous MBT
A vote for the Rogue Traders! Tell us the tales of how they skirt around the Lex Imperialis
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ROCK AND STONE
I AM A DWARF AND IM DIGGING A HOLE
DIGGY DIGGY HOLE
DIGGING A HOLE
If i'm ever depressed, i just watch the introduction of Shadow walking up and pumping that MP5 like a shotgun it's been what like 20 years and that shit STILL cracks me up to this day
I'll take a Rogue Traders episode, but...
What I would really like is more about the Eldar: history, the splits among the factions, and exactly why the Dark Eldar have to love suffering so they don't weaken and die.
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52:00 Understatement of the year; Demiurg (aka as of late Leagues of Votann) are a BIG thing in Battlefleet Gothic and any book, lore, anything that has to do with TAU tech or merchant fleets. TAU literally got their ion weapons tech from the Leagues.
24:44 An interesting fact: Sentient Nebulae, or some form of it, is one of the very first Sci-Fi tropes to ever pop up in sci-fi books. For example, check Solaris by Stanislaw Lem, it was written in the early 60's and had at least one movie adaptation that I remember. It was about sentient gellatinous nebulae surrounding a planet that drove people mad by attempting to communicate with them.
This theme also gave birth to one of Fermi's Paradox's solutions; sentient alien life is too alien to even attempt to understand our species.
A sentient nebulae also appears as the main antagonist of an episode of the OG star trek show
My vote is again for the Rogue Traders! A refresher on them, by you two, would be awesome!
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Very good episode. A couple things to give more context for why the Leagues do what they do.
The Votann are not just cool computers, when the kin put their dead into them its not just a cultural thing, it preserves their memories so they interpret that as an afterlife. That is why they will fight to the last to defend them, because that’s their heaven on the line.
That is also why they are so grim, because the Votann are slowly breaking down, the Kin as a species are inevitably going to go extinct. They probably only have a few millennia left in them, and unlike the Imperium of Man or Eldar who still have some chance of bouncing back, there is no hope for the Votann long term. Maybe they can extend the life of their Votann by clearing the memory banks of all their dead kin, but that is the equivalent of emptying out heaven to make room. What would even be the point of it then?
Sounds like the best option is to make more Votann 🤔
I mean, clearing out heaven to be able to keep on living in the actual life, not the after- one, can make sense. But yeah, it's a heavy philosophical choice to make.
@@ClockwerkManconsidering how we only have examples of votann in Kin space and their very existence as AI being hated by mechanicum, the chances of building new ones are as likely as just building new stc’s out of scratch. I don’t think they would even be included in intact stc’s since Votann are very very old tech for a very specific purpose.
And the way to create a Votann is for a Fane to "evolve" into one.
And apparently the way a Fane to evolve into a Votann is when enough Grimmyrs and data has gone through and cumulated into it. Aka a fane becomes a Votann when it already starts having a data overload.@@ClockwerkMan
It's in Lore that in an extremely rare and exceptionnal manner Fanes can Evolve into Votanns. That's how the Kronus Hegemony got their own Votann in lore. But the way it seems to be when a Fane (who acts like a node connecting the Kindred to the Votann).
in terms of web function, The Kindred is the User, Fane is the PC, the Votann is the Distant Server+Database
A PC with the proper data, programms and connection, can function as a distant server.
That's how I imagine a Fane becoming a Votann.
It just so happen to cumulate/recieve/manage the proper data, in the proper manner, and becomes its own independant Votann.
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I love that big silver plaque in the background for you two. I saw this drop while at work and I was HYPED to watch this first thing.
5:22 You guys are the philosophers that everyone needs to hear at least once in their lifetime
Also, Koda's facial reaction ... hahaha
Requesting an episode on how Magnus did nothing wrong.
Magnus the nerd who was just trying his best, dangit!
He kind of did... But he had good intentions. If only his dad was more open about what he knew...
Magnus was suppose to "do nothing". And he did it wrong.
Impossible. He did almost everything wrong
@@haraldbredsdorff2699 Did someone told him to do nothing? No. So he did SOMETHING in order to try and warn his daddy, but daddy was angry at him, because he did something wrong with the thing he SAID NOTHING ABOUT!
got my vote for the ab-humans, darktide game got me so hyped to learn more about them! also hopefully in the future we get a Space Wolves episode
Koda and isander really turning into a daily need for me 😂
Edit: imagine if fulgrim discovered the depressed core?
Whoa, nice background!!! Keep up the good work. I get excited every time i see you guys in my feed.
ROCK AND STONE!!!!!
WE DID IT! ROCK AND STONE EVERYONE!
Did I hear a ROCK AND STONE
COCK AND BALLS BROTHER
@@fabianholmgren9399 ROCK AND STONE BROTHER
When you rock and stone your never alone!!! 🗣️🗣️
You should do the Alpha Legion for April Fools.
I like the new studio design!
Hope you are happy with it and are doing well! Don’t stop doing what you’re doing :)
I cannot tell you the massive grin i sported when i saw the new setup. You guys are gonna make it. As far as im concerned, you have.
The one thing I missed in this one (great episode otherwise btw) is their very mathematical approach to resources. They are happy to trade with others, however if they calculate it would cost less resources to trade rather than fight they will just straight up invade. The whole hatred of wastage informs EVERYTHING. If fighting would be less wasteful than trading they will fight, if trading is less wasteful they will trade.
in D&D allignments terms I would call them Lawful Neutral but very Aggressive Lawful Neutral. Another pretty grimdark aspect of them is that a new spacedwarf will be created with a specific task in mind. They can never be anything other than what they are made to do. It's not a caste system but it's something similar in that you are born for a specific purpose and that purpose WILL be your life because it's literally imprinted in your genes. You can really question if they really have free will. and that's pretty insidous and dark I think.
Fun fact that version of Batman was actually Azrial filling in for bruce Wayne after Bane broke his back.
I love that the squats are back, and I'd love to see an episode on the abhumans
The most shafted faction lore wise, they get squatted and after they return their lack of books and immediate nerf on the tabletop just shoved them into irrelevancy again
Don't lie, that nerf was justified.
@@JV-iv9ml justified, but unfortunate it had to happen at all
Things I'd love GW to do with their lore:
- Expand on the Demiurg ships. Commit to what's already there. Maybe show us some of the smaller ships.
- Give them a cool, dwarfish name for their subspecies. Something more distinct than "Kin" or "Squat". Demiurg is a cool name, but it's a single letter off of an existing, totally distinct concept. So not viable.
- Show us how the Votann actually keep the fact that they have AI a secret from Imperials. Playing "hide and seek the Ironkin" stretches the imagination, if it's supposed to work every time.
- Show us how scary the galactic core is.
"Phil might be a robot, but he's also the best joint roller we have in the clan"
--Leagues of Votaan on their relationship with AI.... probably
I just realized something. The nebula's that are sentient could be basically baby C'tans.
The only reason I'm commenting is because I rewatch/relissten y'all's stuff so much. This is like the 10th time I'm watching some of these while I do something else. I love how each one of y'all's videos are different, and how y'all deliver information is amazing. Have a good rest of y'all's day.
Would love to see Rogue Traders finally get some love too.
Love the new set up guys, also let's just go with what the machine spirit known as the Algorithm would want and go with the Rogue Traders.
I was immediately shot on entering this episode, I can't believe this.
Rogue Traders get my vote if only because the character creation system in the TTRPG is dope
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15:31 I love the delivery of this line, it also made me spit out my drink simply out of laughter.
I’d love the video on the rouge traders, but it would be cool to get it after the game comes out so it’s as extensive as possible
Rogue Trader next! Tie-in with the game drop and a great way to ride that warp corrupted algorithm.
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Counter Argument: A league of only Dwarven Women is possible we just haven't seen them yet.
Correct
counter argument: all the robots have scottish accents but with a robotic undertone. (also lady robots could also be a thing right?)
The Orks haven't seen them so they are the stealth units 😂
the darven woman all wears purple, that's why he don't see them X)
There ARE models for female Kin/Squats, they just don't appear as short-stack sexy fantasy dwarf women, they basically look like the men, but with slightly smoother features and no beard. In fact you can see one in the video, at 41:22, the one in the left hand side of the picture, THAT is a Space Dwarf woman
Always look forward to this channel!
Congrats on the 100k guys!!!
Didn't know about the league and i loved this intro to them.
Hoping to see the Rogue traders!!!
It seems like whenever I discover a new faction you guys come around with the lore so I’m thankful 👌🏾
ROCK *burp* AND *burp* STOOOOONE
Love the video! Watched the whole thing while lifting at the gym. Just now learning about 40k but I’m all in on the leagues now!
Gotta say, started listening for about 3 weeks now, been tearing through these podcasts between here and spotify, might even do pateron just for the exclusive episodes.
Anyway, love the new set! Can't wait to see it fill out some more!
ROCK AND STONE BROTHER !!!!!!!
ROCK AND STONE LADS!
I love hearing more about y'all. The fact that y'all went to school together is really cool. It really explains why y'all really are just family. I still can't tell if it's the best bros or y'all are each other's other half. I only get information on y'all from your podcast or videos so if y'all have specified sorry. Y'all relationship is why I keep watching y'all. The humor back and forth, how y'all deliver lines is just amazing. I really want another episode where koda hosts. I don't know how many takes it took (I don't think it took more than 2, it just might have) but that Warframe episode was really good. I still haven't finished this episode so there will be another comment from me about the leagues. Have a good rest of y'all's day.
Thankyou for another awesome video. I can't do patreon right now, so i still wait patiently for each episode. keep up the great work guys.🛃
Stone and Rock!!!! Wait a minute.
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BOOOONE
I've seen a lot of your guys shorts, but I'm glad to watch a full episode. Can't tell you how happy I was when the votann were announced, im dead set on them being the faction I horde. ROCK AND STONE BROTHERS!
Oh damn you guys got a new studio! That's dope.
LOVE THE NEW SET UP! Love to see all the love and growth you guys have gotten this year! My vote is for the ABHUMANS! For my big jolly bodyguards of course.
Abhumans!
ROCK AND STONE!!!
Other than my wife, y'alls weekly uploads are the only thing keeping me mentally afloat rn - I subbed on Patreon but due to recent things I can't right now, but I'm so excited for the backlog of content that's building until I can! Love the content, the pacing, y'all are absolutely the best source for me for WH40K content, because I love how Isyander is teaching to Koda who knows marginally more than I do, and comes from that same perspective - Y'all are great, and have made this year bearable for me, I'm gonna try and sub again before Christmas
Niice episode, love that they are back, and it's lore now
Rogue traders are great, would love to see you cover them!
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Seeing as the game is coming out...I vote abhumans. I want you to tell Koda about thw felynids.
Grats on the new studio . It looks great ! Also rogue traders slap .
Love the blahaj in the back! Love your content, keep up the good work!!! If I had money, I would totally join your patreon.
Rock and Stone!!! And could you please cover the Blood Ravens?
Heroes of the Imperium. The Ghosts deserve their own episode.
Damn, im just here to comment for the algorithm.
But the studio looks great, and seeing this vid on my recommendations is like cracking open a cold one at the end of the week.
Life's good.
idk what to say mr Isyander and mr Koda
I binged everything, almost everything, it’s legit really helped thru a really bad breakup this past couple weeks, I’m really hungover rn and I’m repping Texas and I need a genestealer episode
ROCK AND STOOONE
Rule 34 can not be stopped.
It's frustrating falling asleep to your voice! I want to learn about this lore!
I appreciate this episode, it helps me get into considering getting into the Leagues of Votann sold around my place
I'm between Abhumans and Ciaphas Cane. Since the next one on the books could be Abhumans I'm going with that. And I really hope there's enough time and space for the various different types of abhumans to get spoken on in the recordings but not the Hrud. I really like the Felinids over them and I'm confused as to why the Imperium doesn't use those kitties to fight certain enemies like the Dark Eldar or something. Just like how they apparently use the Beastmen as cannon fodder or just hate them which is why those poor bastards ended up turning the chaos in the 40K setting. (Whereas in the fantasy setting they were already chaos aligned, basically chaos born). And there's so many stories that could be written about them or with them. I'm not entirely sure if they could be written from their perspective since the Imperium is so ridiculously xenophobic/racist but it's not unwarranted considering who they're constantly up against. Not against other humans but against other species. Of which they see abhumans kind of like that but at the same time many of them are mutants and you know how they hate mutants. Especially the Sisters of Battle with the bolter, flamer and melter 😏😱. Yet they're also So Human, you can't dissociate them from the rest of the Imperium without doing serious damage to the structure of it all, including all of the poor souls turned into Servitors (and I do mean the poor souls, not like that guy from Priests of Mars that was turned into an Archeoflagulent”. He had that coming in spades. Dude was like a proto Goge van Dire just starting his bloody reign). Although all of them are probably part goat since cows are pretty much canon as to happen wiped out of existence 🤔.
Abhumans are Officially "Not Mutants" since they're a stable genome and their change hasn't been caused by Chaos corruption (one of the main forms of mutation)
@@thebighurt2495 Technically they are mutants but the mutation is intentional not something that's random like somebody ending up with an arm at the back of their head or teeth with their ass should be. And the same goes for humans who are augmented on specific worlds throughout the Imperium like those who live on Fenris with their wolf genes or the people of Nocturne, especially those who become Salamander Space Marines, with their ashen black skin and charcoal red eyes. I'm sure at one point it was more mutinogenic but they refined the change to be less random and more intentional.
So you're not wrong. But from that same example that I gave people from those worlds that I mentioned also, especially when Space Marines are concerned, have a tendency to mutate like from the Black Dragons Successor chapter of the Salamanders and the Wulfen of the Space Wolves which was a result of the unstable genome of the warriors who followed Leman Russ after their legion was created but suffered that feral state of transformation which exists down the lines of many of their gene seeded descendants. And the Primarchs themselves even have some unstable genes or either through sabotage, something involving the warp or some sort of microscopic mistake, several of their chapters have issues. One of the most resplendent of them all was Sanguinis and even he had the Red Thirst like his sons in the Blood Angels which through his dead, that's basically a lasting curse after fighting Horus, now also suffer the Black Rage. Not to mention that after the Cabals Horus set up to get different legions to secretly hang out and discuss strategies and whatnot outside of the Imperium's law about them interacting is likely where many successor chapters were born even from unlikely cousins of different space marines choosing to fight together than fall to chaos like Nathaniel Garo of the former Dusk Raiders who later became the Death Guard when the rest were suffering disease and sickness which was virtually impossible for them before, causing them to fall to the plague god Nurgle in surrender becoming his “Plague Marines”. It's believed that unexpected legions came together and formed the later legions especially after swapping gene seed like the Space Sharks whom to many people myself included have elements of the Night Lords, Blood Angels and Salamanders to them. Particularly the Salamanders and Night Lords from how they seemingly disappear, taking the bodies of the fallen of their battle brothers and the enemy, and from their path into battle by politely asking to join the fray of a world being besieged. They're probably the product of some sort of mutation that stabilized itself or they did it themselves through sheer will and still use it to their advantage on the battlefield before disappearing like their shark namesake, back into the depths of space. Speaking of which I'm actually surprised that there's not a Raven Guard and Dark Angels successor chapter out there called the Shadow Gryphons or something combining the Knightly order aesthetic with stealth and tactics. But if they had a mutation, it'd probably be how some of them seem to grow feathers or something but it's like a 2 in 100 of their members so it's not a frequent thing 😅😂. No reason for them to be banished by the Inquisition on some bs because they developed an Emperor blessed super power like the Fire Hawks.
NEW SETUP GOES CRAZZYYYYY
Yogscast reference in the first minute.
My current favorite podcast.
You guys are great.
Love the content, you guys are amazing. Im sad when I do not have episodes to watch. ROGUE TRADERS FTW.
The fact that Koda sang diggy diggy hole in the beginning has made my entire night complete!
WE'RE RICH 😂😂😂😂
The fact that the band The Longest Johns just put out their cover of doggy doggy hole makes this so much better even though it is already beautiful 😂😂 you guys always make my day. Oh also Go Ab humans!
My pall hoots just recommended you guys so its time to binge
Omg there is a Blåhaj on the shelf soooo cool.
Congrats on the YT plack
cool new background! im enjoying watching your growth!
edit: The pip boy gave me the idea of fallout lore videos! Maybe you can tease new types of content with different merchandise?
Another fantastic video, so fantastic that when I saw the Votann I didn’t really care and thought about skipping it but then didnt cus I need something to watch while I eat and glad that I did
Jürgen must be spoken about in the next episode, which will be a Ciaphus Cain video.
Vashtorr finding the Mad Core would be... interesting, to say the least
The best interpretation I've heard for STCs is that they're not just the blueprint to make something, they're the blueprint and then further blueprints and semi-AI generated info on the tooling, factory infrastructure, and resource requirements to manufacture an item
Rogue Traders, please and thank you!
And please do a Space Wolves video! Also quick question: Has Guilliman met up with them since coming back? Would he remember Bjorn the Fellhand?
Definitely gotta vote for the abhumans. Love the new set up and keep the excellent quality work up 👍
Firstly, congratulations on continued success. Fell down this rabbit hole with the Farsight episode and have enjoyed every second.
Two requests:
Firstly, where did the Foreign Fracás disappear to?
Secondly, Rogue Traders please =)
Keep it up, we’re rooting for you
Love the new setup (especially the blahaj), we made it out of the basement
Voting forRogue Traders
The blue-collar in space is aesthetic and idea is pretty much the most charming thing about the terrans in starcraft. Everybody is basically an ex-con working man who says “you want a piece of me boy?”
Nice episode as always guys! Give me some of that powdered wigs and spaceships.
I love how in warhammer anything to do with tec eventually comes around to toasters like even after all this time we know the majesty of the simple toaster