This the same man who said to the kages ''What adult goes full force on mere children'' madara doesn't like weak people he will probably ask the kids if they want his clones to use Susanoo just for fun while playing with them
Finn the human t you obviously underestimate Ramen Guy. He's already multiuniversal. Except it took him decades to achieve that power. Under Madara he would've achieved it in his teens or early twenties unlike in our timeline
@@princed8534 ichiraku stomps even as a newborn,... naruto&dragonball in the same universe confirmed it wasnt broly who was the legendary super saiyan it was ichiraku. After the Battle of the ramen guy vs Farmer with a shotgun the world was never being the same. The clash of the two strongest beings in the universe is now called the big Bang and it was so heavy it restarted the whole timeline of existence
@@coolermann7354 what? big bang? are you crazy man? it was just one of his regular jutsus that we mortals call big bang, and who knows how much has been changed after that epic battle. I've heard that the effects of that battle are still changing all the dimensions in our multiverse
Hope you guys enjoyed this one. Much shorter than the original version. Shout out to Jo The Animator for the cut scene of Hokage Madara vs Tobirama. Next what if is being worked on now.
I feel like Hashirama only died from healing himself through all of the battles with Madara. Without those adult battles, Hashirama would've lived way longer
This is true. Tsunades 4head was stated to shorten her live, there’s no reason to believe hashirama, who has a much stronger healing, wouldn’t die even quicker. Rn tsunade is like 70-80 only masking her appearance so who knows mabye she would’ve been up to 100+ years old if she never used it(same with hashirama). Orochimaru should also be talked about since he is technically around tsunades age but he is basically immortal as long as there are humans alive on earth.
His bitch ass brother(the 2nd)woukd have had a tantrum about it.... or the 2nd died instead of Madras brother..i wonder how that would have turned out honestly
fuzzy static probably not considering how Tobirama did things he would have not liked madara as kage, but would still do his job for the village. And the same for madara even though he hates Tobirama he would have likely used Tobirama as a tactician in the First Shinobi World War.
Ryan Robinson back when I asked could naruto explained make this I said the same thing but some questioned me madara left during the first hokage time so there is no way he would be second.
The concept for hokage was created just for Madara. However he would've never follow through. He knew too much and wasn't soft as hashirama. He would use brute strength
@@CoDaCrypt I doubt it cause the argument he made about Madara had already read the tablets that were altered by the time he would be Hokage would have stayed in his mind, plus after Hashirama’s death there’s no indication he wouldn’t become a tyrant. He isn’t soft like Hashirama also at that point the leaf didn’t hate the Uchiha, it was till Tobirama became hokage that the distrust began against them. He hated the constant fighting
I don't know man, it would depend on how, when and why Hashirama Senju died. If Hashi died of natural causes, there would have to be a reason. The most popular opinion I've heard is that he died because he spammed his regeneration jutsu quite a bit and as a result,his cells died at a younger age. Considering the Senju, like the Uzumaki, are known for their longevity, it's doubtful that Hashi became an old man and died. Especially when it seems Tsunade is still rockin that MILF bod even after the generation that called her grandma has had kids now. Since Madara became Hokage and never left the village, there wouldn't be such a needless amount of fighting after the formation of Konoha. Hashi wouldn't suffer anymore serious damages and he wouldn't have to heal himself. Ensuring that he lives on even longer. With his prescence as a deterrent,Madara wouldn't engage in open warfare with the the other villages. Even if the First War happened, it would be stopped immediately,with the combined powers of Madara and Hashirama,without taking much damage or losses. Hashiramas survival would ensure that Madara didn't go off the deep end,too. As Madaras aide and advisor, Hashi could advise Madara to donate the Tailed Beasts as an act of peace. Knowing Hashiramas strength, Madara would have to go along with it.
The most appropriate theory is cancer. Hashirama is not Tsunade. Tsunade's Mitotic Regeneration was a technique while Hashirama's healing was a genetic mutation and hence, occurred naturally.
@@nathaniel9368 , It might not have been one. Cancer is basically the uncontrolled division of cells and what are Hashirama Senju cells famous for? Yes, rapid division of cells. His whole body was like that, so, it isn't much of a surprise.
@@jasonfoley6502 he would have put all other villages in check and nobody would have messed with the leaf. The problem would start after he died when everyone else would form an alliance against the leaf
Uuuummmmm, not exactly no names, it was the gold and silver brothers and twenty S CLASS ninja. That's the equivalent of 2 near hokage class ninja and twenty kakashi level ninja, plus he had to buy time for his team to escape. Not many people would have survived that under those conditions.
@@jasonfoley6502 They are definitely fodder, there is no current notable ninja that they can beat. this isn't even a meme but i got adult sakura beating those dudes
@@Shxnkzwrld_ I wouldnt say they are fodder, they survived being eaten alive by the 9 tails and even have some of his chakra, they gave dariyu or whatever the new cloud kages name is all he could handle, and adult sakura is not exactly a weakling either, though I doubt she beats both of them herself.
You're assuming that there would be a first ninja war. I think with both Hashirama and Madara, side by side, the other nations wouldn't have dared be the ones to start something (where, when Madara had left in the original timeline, they saw that they had been weakened). I also think that younger Madara has the potential to be a good thoughtful leader, provided there was time for the others in the village to calm down and make him feel more welcomed/liked.
you realize you are the best naruto channel ever ? at least number 1 for me .. quality content & edit & work .. keep up the good work, I enjoy your videos so much
Dude I loved that video that you did on your original channel. I liked the version where he was the first and the second. Keep doing what you’re doing and screw the haters.
Really great video. The scenario you played out seems to be a definite possibility. However, I do believe it is equally possible for Madara to have been changed enough by being hokage enough to allow him to weather his fear and anxieties and hold to his and Hashirama's dreams - especially with Hashirama's full support. Madara was teetering, struggling with a serious existential crisis, and Hashirama's perceived betrayal of the Uchiha when he caved to Tobirama was the big tipping point for him.
Damn a lot of shit would’ve been different. And now I wish their was a whole fan made manga of this. What if he AND hashirama became hokage? Would two hokages be good or bad? If madara had a kid the world would be screwed.
If he did become the first Hokage, he might have created a PERFECT world of his own accord. If that was his previous nicer self back then but Madara as now? I dunno xD Two people best kept off such positions of political power; Madara of Naruto and Aizen of Bleach lol xD
He wouldn't had created it because he still would have gotten challenged about his idea of a perfect world by Hashirama and his brother. Madara doesn't believe that free will can lead to peace, which is why all these years he preferred to use ONLY the Tsukuyomi genjutsu upon the world as he believed it was the ONLY tool he could use to create peace.
Not sure where people get he's not match for Madara. They might have been more on par than Madara and Hashirama. Hashirama beat Madara consistently where it seemed like Madara was out for blood and Hashirama was going easy just to make him back down. Madara would likely beat Tobirama, but Tobirama might have better odds to beat Madara than Madara had to beat Hashirama.
lol tobirama is just a kid infront of Hashirama and madara, Hashirama and madara are on different league when it comes to battle in their times, don't compare nob tobirama with madara just bcuz he is Hashirama brother 🤣😁 they are Naruto and Sasuke of their time
@@serizawa8059 Tobirama is the instrument to creating the village lol without him Hashirama would never realize his dream. He may be the little brother but there’s multiple shown of him taking charge because he was the smart one…
Although I didnt think it was possible, The sprite animations are a perfect touch to make your videos even better than before. If you could you should do a what if Naruto had a kekkai genkai or doujutsu
awesome video and awesome animation .. thanks to you and jo the animator 3> personally i thought if madara was accepted by the people he wont become this way but still your video is great and its very possible too
Yeah, Tobirama was a tactical genius, he would bring Kage Bunshins, Flying Thunder God AND Edo Tensei to the fight. He wouldn't go down that easy to Madara, as he was as strong as Izuna (who's a bit weaker than Madara). With the help of reanimated Hashirama for power and a reanimated Izuna for emotional disbalancing, together with his tactical underhanded schemes (much like Danzo with root, but not as a jerk), he could come prepared enough, with contigency plans premade to exclude the tailed beasts from being summoned, to take care of Madara.
I think ppl think of madara as a warmonger, no he is a child of violence, he’s a nagato except he has a higher propensity for violence. Marada is a lot like the 2nd and danzo he will protect his “family” by any means necessary. I think the ninja world would be different if madara was hokage and hashi as advisor, he’s the yin to yang, a lot balance. Like when they were kids, without a war madara is a gentle soul. His life has been warped by war he’s a big softie who has had to harden his heart. I love how ppl are basing madara off of how madara is and now noticing how he was and leading from that trajectory
@@Dawesome97? He got taken out by 20 S rank shinobi.... Itachi is a S rank shinobi, Kisame is a S rank shinobi, Kakuzu is a S rank shinobi, Pain was a S-rank shinobi. So he basically died to 20 Kakuzu's or 20 Pain's. He's the third strongest after Naruto and Hashirama.
Or maybe it would've been better if there was 2 leaders serving at same time with disagreements between them broken by the council. Or have 2 leadership positions with separate duties that don't overlap but do interact. But yes I agree much of the conflict could've been avoided had Madara been named Hokage but other conflict would've happened.
If they hated him they wouldn’t choose him as their leader🤦🏻♀️ They just didn’t cared about what he said anymore after he tried to warned them about the danger that was coming to the Uchiha clan
copyright issues. I've lost a channel before, not going through that again. I use clips sparingly. All these other creators can risk getting terminated over using clips, which falls under fair use, but I can tell you from experience, once you get the 3 strikes your ass is dusted unless you get lucky and the RUclips internal team looks over it, but for copyright even then it's on the person who gave you the strike. A bunch of anime channels got deleted last summer over using a handful of panels. I got my channel back, but not everyone is as lucky. Not going through that or taking that risk until RUclips defends creators right to fair use on their platform
Please do “What if Tsunade went to the Rain Village with Jiraiya”, I feel that it could be pretty interesting and it’s possible Jiraiya changes Nagato’s ways before he would even attack the Hidden Leaf, which could have seriously changed the world of Naruto for the better
Actually that will not happen because tobirama will make all kinds of scheme to make sure that leadership and authority stays with the senju. In a sense, tobirama is the danzo in their timeline.
Imagine any village starting a war with the leaf and then next day suddenly seeing the perfect susanoo directly outside of their village. Wars would end instantly. Madara can straight up obliterate a village with that.
Awesome video. Yep, Madara is a straight tyrannosaurus type tyrant. Dude has no mercy and feels only he is capable of ruling the world into peace. Quite the narcissist, that one.
yeah, I fuck up names from time to time. I'm mainly a manga only fan. Didn't like either Naruto anime. Only dropped in to see fights I loved in the manga to see them animated. So mispronunciations happen from time to time. Not really worried about it. Thanks for the support
fight went just as it should have, Madara slaps him around a bit, lets Tobirama get a few shots in, and then Madara gets serious and demolishes the "high kage"
@@NarutoExplained Tobirama should have beat Madara. Madara does not have Rinnegan so he shouldn't be able to do Chibaku Tensai or Meteors. Tobirama's Water Release could cut Madara's Perfect Susanoo since he was able to cut God Tree. The video is wrong.
I think it would actually go a different way, but it would have many similar points. Though Madara being advised by Hashirama is guaranteed I think Tobirama will also be involved sort of like his Danzo. However, I don't think Madara will deal with tailed beast unless he has too as he would be to captivated by their dream coming true. During the war is when we will start to see a turn as Madara would be willing to do anything to protect his village like with his brother where Tobirama will see how dangerous Madara can be forming the anbu. This will also be when Hashirama is going to convince him to create peace with the other Nations as there is no way any Nation could stand up against these two as well as Tobirama the perfect mission leader. After Hashirama's death is going to be another turning point this is where Madara will start to neglect his duties as he and Hashirama wanted this dream and built it together so it would be worthless without him. While he will be comforted by Mito it won't change a thing he will go into depression leaving most things to Tobirama. Madara dies naturally Tobirama becomes second Hokage excludes the Uchiha dies in Battle making Hiruzen Hokage who disbands the anbu recreated by Danzo in order to continue the seconds legacy of defending the leaf from the inside and outside ends up making the Uchiha get wiped out by Itachi. Who works for Danzo to protect Sasuke who ends up being taken in by Orochimaru who is then defeated like in normal story then Sasuke defeats Itachi is met by Black Zetsu who tells him Danzo is behind everything and that it's the way of the ninja world. Sasuke decides to take out Danzo and reform the ninja world. Then Zetsu tells him he can't just walk into the leaf and take out Danzo and gives him the idea to use the sound so Sasuke returns to the sound finding sage Kabuto who helps him to form the sound into a strong enough fighting force to take on the hidden leaf temporarily so he can eliminate Danzo. He takes out Danzo and as the retreat Sasuke looks towards the location of the tablet Zetsu says have you read it? Sasuke then says some of it Zetsu tells him what the tablet is and how to read it convincing him to awaken the rinnegan using material from Orochimaru's lab. He then begins the eye of the moon plan and the story goes on from there.
I think there would have been a Leaf rebellion if Madara was Hokage. Prime 3rd vs. Madara would be crazy. Hiruzen couldn't do it by himself but idk man, with the right team?
About the fight this is how Tobirama could have won 1. Uses Edo Tensei and brings back hashirama 2. Tobirama is on the water.... meaning he could have used even MORE GODLY JUTSU since he's said to be a god on the water and he was able to summon a whole tsunami with no water around him. 3. Why didn't he use flying raijn..?
I think that if kishimoto was writing this he would probably make it so madara was the 2nd hokage who suddenly became rouge. Making the history off the previous hokage much more interesting
So uh why didn't Tobirama use Flying Thunder God at least once during that fight with Madara? Oh no Madara's skeleton sword thing is coming at me, better toss a Kunai and teleport away.
Madara tried that’s what matters He got everyone to team up against him making them work together He became the strongest person in the series and died by someone he trusted Again And all he wanted was peace and make everyone dream of everything they wanted but they wanted to fight for all Eternity and naruto wanted to help sooo that’s making naruto a villain because he’s supporting fighting between the nations And that’s why I think madara is an anti hero
I know this might be an unlikely scenario. But could you do a what if one of narutos parents (either Kushina or Minato) we’re alive thru naturist childhood. Only cuz we know what life would be like if both were around what if just the single parent?
He would be a good Hokage m8, he decide to became a villain after he noticed that the Uchihas were being segregated. If he was the 1st or even 2nd Hokage, none of the conflicts involving the Uchiha and the Village wouldn't happen
If Madara was hokage then: 1. He wouldn't have gave away all the tailed beast like Hashirama did. 2. No second, third, and fourth shinobi war. 3. The Uchihas could've not died. 4. Leaf Ninjas would've been stronger cause Madara isn't soft compare to Hashirama. 5. Naruto would've not existed.
Madara would have led the village to ten-tails because he was obsessed with he stone tablet. And there would have been a war because Madara was dictator and a supremacist. He started the world war 1 when he attacked Mu. Madara is trash.
@Tia Aaron If Madara became the Hokage he would’ve focused on the village. He was the first person to tell Hoshirama his dream, about a world without war and peaceful. But if you look carefully this goes to Tobirama’s hate for Uchihas
@@lo-fiaesthetic5382 LMAO, no. It was all Hashirama's dream Madara's dream was to protect Izuna. That's it. Madara didn't give a shit about anyone else. Madara would have led the alliance to Infinite Tsukuyomki and world domination. He was power hungry as Sage of Six Paths affirmed. Madara went and destroyed Konoha/Iwa peace in the name of Konoha. He was a vicious warmonger. Tobirama didn't hate the Uchiha. It was Madara's tortured tool, Obito who gladly partook in their massacre. Where do you Obito get all his hatred for the Uchiha from?
@Tia Aaron Madara became evil after being defeated by Hoshirama, because zetsu found him and started getting him ready for his own point. And even when Tobirama came back to life you could still see that his hate for Uchiha clan still existed
Konoha having Matatabi, Isobu, Son Goku, Kokuo, Kurama? Dude. That is a powerhouse. Uchihas and Senjus are good jinjurikis. Plus Matatabi and Son Goku has the same element with Uchihas. That is definitely a Game over for other nations.
There should have been two leaders of the village, one representing light and the other darkness and both having same authority over the village. It would have been better this way according to me.
Than Black Zetsu would have waited for Indra's next reincarnation. And since Hashirama died not too long after also the next reincarnations wouldn't be Naruto and Sasuke
Personally I think k that if madara became 1st hokage he wouldnt have so much hate in his heart. I dont think he would have become a tyrant, as if he was homage he might bot feel the way he did when he left the village. When he left he was filled with anger at the village for not trusting him, but if he was hokage he might earn their trust and the time line would be very different
I love this but one massive thing was overlooked. When hashirama died I believe that madara who respected him would have buried him with his family after taking his cells. Therefore tobirama would be able to use the forbidden reanimation jutsu to raise hashirama. So the final battle would be madara with no rinegan vs reanimated hashirama and tobirama, which I believe would beat madara at the time unless madara uses hax ability to kill tobirama... even then if the jutsu isn't released he still has to contend with a reanimated hashirama. So the question is .. could madara use sharingan to genjutsu Tobirama, release reanimated hashirama even though they're both 💯 aware of madaras abilities???? At this point in time my money is surprisingly on tobirama and the reanimation as he's fast enough to dodge the susanno while the reanimated brother fights with wood style
Madara would probably unleash his Susano’o against 7 year olds and call it “academy training”.
This the same man who said to the kages ''What adult goes full force on mere children'' madara doesn't like weak people he will probably ask the kids if they want his clones to use Susanoo just for fun while playing with them
if there's a ninja academy. the academy is built/founded by Tobirama after he became the Hokage.
Lmao
I'm Dead 🤣🤣🤣
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Madara: hates war
Also Madara: starts the biggest war ever and kills thousands
I mean he did say that to Edo Tobirama "Craves peace yet yearns for war"
im sure it was obito who started it
@@ziicowangdu5212 Madara planned for wars many years ago.
@@saimyintmyat9373 black zetsu was man with the plan tho
@@GHOS7v actually it was Kishimoto who planned for fourth great ninja wars.
Instead of training Óbito Madara would've noticed The Ramen Guy and help him achieve his potential much earlier than in the main series
Ramenguy would become second and strongest hokage he would probably even surpass Kaguya at the age of 10
Finn the human t you obviously underestimate Ramen Guy. He's already multiuniversal. Except it took him decades to achieve that power. Under Madara he would've achieved it in his teens or early twenties unlike in our timeline
Ashberryvillage10 What hes omniversal I thought? Holy shit I’ve accidentally been wanking Ramen guy for far to long
@@princed8534 ichiraku stomps even as a newborn,... naruto&dragonball in the same universe confirmed it wasnt broly who was the legendary super saiyan it was ichiraku. After the Battle of the ramen guy vs Farmer with a shotgun the world was never being the same. The clash of the two strongest beings in the universe is now called the big Bang and it was so heavy it restarted the whole timeline of existence
@@coolermann7354 what? big bang? are you crazy man? it was just one of his regular jutsus that we mortals call big bang, and who knows how much has been changed after that epic battle. I've heard that the effects of that battle are still changing all the dimensions in our multiverse
That pic of madara
Hashirama: what are you thinking about madara?
Madara: world domination and stuff.
"world domination and stuff"😂😂
Oh hell nah
Hope you guys enjoyed this one. Much shorter than the original version. Shout out to Jo The Animator for the cut scene of Hokage Madara vs Tobirama. Next what if is being worked on now.
Can you do a what if on the Uzumaki actually joining the leaf village and living in its walls keeping the slaughter and scattering of them
Can you do a what if Rin didn't die video I honestly think that would have made somewhat of an effect on the naruto verse
What if black zetsu never existed
What if Naruto or Sasuka had Karma?
What if Sarada never met his father
I feel like Hashirama only died from healing himself through all of the battles with Madara. Without those adult battles, Hashirama would've lived way longer
This is true. Tsunades 4head was stated to shorten her live, there’s no reason to believe hashirama, who has a much stronger healing, wouldn’t die even quicker. Rn tsunade is like 70-80 only masking her appearance so who knows mabye she would’ve been up to 100+ years old if she never used it(same with hashirama). Orochimaru should also be talked about since he is technically around tsunades age but he is basically immortal as long as there are humans alive on earth.
I was thinking something like this a few days ago but it was “what if madara didn’t fight hashirama and became the SECOND hokage”
Coo
His bitch ass brother(the 2nd)woukd have had a tantrum about it.... or the 2nd died instead of Madras brother..i wonder how that would have turned out honestly
fuzzy static probably not considering how Tobirama did things he would have not liked madara as kage, but would still do his job for the village. And the same for madara even though he hates Tobirama he would have likely used Tobirama as a tactician in the First Shinobi World War.
Ryan Robinson back when I asked could naruto explained make this I said the same thing but some questioned me madara left during the first hokage time so there is no way he would be second.
Ryan Robinson Ehhh
The concept for hokage was created just for Madara. However he would've never follow through. He knew too much and wasn't soft as hashirama. He would use brute strength
He knew nothing and would have been a tyrant.
@@CoDaCrypt yeah so a tyrant lol
@@CoDaCrypt I doubt it cause the argument he made about Madara had already read the tablets that were altered by the time he would be Hokage would have stayed in his mind, plus after Hashirama’s death there’s no indication he wouldn’t become a tyrant. He isn’t soft like Hashirama also at that point the leaf didn’t hate the Uchiha, it was till Tobirama became hokage that the distrust began against them. He hated the constant fighting
"An army led by Madara"
madara himself is already too much for the villages
“The following that you’re about to see “ lol I didn’t expect that 😂😂
Frank Murhonyi "............. Now that Tobirama is dead"
NarutoExplained: makes this video.
Swagkage: *Nuts*
what if hagoromo killed black zetsu after they sealed their mom
Naruto as a show wouldn't have existed.
@@juuzousuzuya8058 exactly. it would be great seeing the uchiha as good guys tho, and the whole world of shinobi fighting aliens
Everyone dies
Good Ending.
Roll Credits.
All kages starts war
Hashirama: let's give them bijuus so they stop the war
Madara:nah I'm gonna kill them all
I don't know man, it would depend on how, when and why Hashirama Senju died.
If Hashi died of natural causes, there would have to be a reason. The most popular opinion I've heard is that he died because he spammed his regeneration jutsu quite a bit and as a result,his cells died at a younger age. Considering the Senju, like the Uzumaki, are known for their longevity, it's doubtful that Hashi became an old man and died. Especially when it seems Tsunade is still rockin that MILF bod even after the generation that called her grandma has had kids now.
Since Madara became Hokage and never left the village, there wouldn't be such a needless amount of fighting after the formation of Konoha. Hashi wouldn't suffer anymore serious damages and he wouldn't have to heal himself. Ensuring that he lives on even longer. With his prescence as a deterrent,Madara wouldn't engage in open warfare with the the other villages. Even if the First War happened, it would be stopped immediately,with the combined powers of Madara and Hashirama,without taking much damage or losses. Hashiramas survival would ensure that Madara didn't go off the deep end,too.
As Madaras aide and advisor, Hashi could advise Madara to donate the Tailed Beasts as an act of peace. Knowing Hashiramas strength, Madara would have to go along with it.
So much more in character for madara
The most appropriate theory is cancer. Hashirama is not Tsunade. Tsunade's Mitotic Regeneration was a technique while Hashirama's healing was a genetic mutation and hence, occurred naturally.
@@shadowsenseeternal9371 cancer makes sense but u would think that he ould survive that
@@nathaniel9368 , It might not have been one. Cancer is basically the uncontrolled division of cells and what are Hashirama Senju cells famous for? Yes, rapid division of cells. His whole body was like that, so, it isn't much of a surprise.
@@shadowsenseeternal9371 However in this scenario where Hashirama wouldn't need to spam his regeneration wouldn't that still be a moot point?
I wouldn’t mind Madara being Hokage at all. He’s my favorite character.
Madara as Hokage would be disastrous.
@@jasonfoley6502 he would have put all other villages in check and nobody would have messed with the leaf. The problem would start after he died when everyone else would form an alliance against the leaf
@@blackjack8556 Like I said, Madara as Hokage would be disastrous.
@@jasonfoley6502 it won't be too easy if He is the Leader of village all villagers would be so damn op. Madara shall train them like Hell.
@@saimyintmyat9373 Madara is not to be trusted as a leader.
well at least tobirama didn't die to fodder no name ninja's in this timeline
Uuuummmmm, not exactly no names, it was the gold and silver brothers and twenty S CLASS ninja. That's the equivalent of 2 near hokage class ninja and twenty kakashi level ninja, plus he had to buy time for his team to escape. Not many people would have survived that under those conditions.
The Kinkaku Unit are not fodder, they wore him down until Kinkaku delivered the final blow.
@@BraidedNinja3 the gold and silver brothers are fodder my g, but i do get your point 20 s rank ninja is a hell of a fight
@@jasonfoley6502 They are definitely fodder, there is no current notable ninja that they can beat. this isn't even a meme but i got adult sakura beating those dudes
@@Shxnkzwrld_ I wouldnt say they are fodder, they survived being eaten alive by the 9 tails and even have some of his chakra, they gave dariyu or whatever the new cloud kages name is all he could handle, and adult sakura is not exactly a weakling either, though I doubt she beats both of them herself.
You're assuming that there would be a first ninja war. I think with both Hashirama and Madara, side by side, the other nations wouldn't have dared be the ones to start something (where, when Madara had left in the original timeline, they saw that they had been weakened). I also think that younger Madara has the potential to be a good thoughtful leader, provided there was time for the others in the village to calm down and make him feel more welcomed/liked.
I think you disregard how Hashirama's death would affect Madara in this timeline...
Could have one of two effects. It could mellow him out or push him over the deep end.
@@sprucewayne10 Well Hashirama was Madara's last real connection to his younger more optimistic self so I'm gonna go with deep end lol
@@ApexCalibre then Ramen guy will put Madars to his place by using his Ramenggan
Ayyyye we have another amazing what if from the best naruto youtuber
How did Madara use Chibaku Tensei against Tobirama, minutes later you said in his mid 40s he still didn't awaken the Rinnegan.
I thought the same thing. But either way, Madara slaps Tobirama.
@Dakota Eads ofc
@@mihajloje1829 lol tobirama could have used edo tensei and revived hashirama and boom ez win
Diavolo lol hahahahahah
U cant use edo tensei whenever u want
you realize you are the best naruto channel ever ? at least number 1 for me .. quality content & edit & work .. keep up the good work, I enjoy your videos so much
Dude I loved that video that you did on your original channel. I liked the version where he was the first and the second. Keep doing what you’re doing and screw the haters.
Really great video. The scenario you played out seems to be a definite possibility. However, I do believe it is equally possible for Madara to have been changed enough by being hokage enough to allow him to weather his fear and anxieties and hold to his and Hashirama's dreams - especially with Hashirama's full support. Madara was teetering, struggling with a serious existential crisis, and Hashirama's perceived betrayal of the Uchiha when he caved to Tobirama was the big tipping point for him.
Madara: We don’t need war
After Hashirama becomes hokage, Madara: We need war
@Kuzakami
He only didn’t wanted Tobirama to become hokage
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What was missing in that fight was Tobirama using edo with an army of dead Uchiha, maybe even a brother or two of Madara.
Damn a lot of shit would’ve been different.
And now I wish their was a whole fan made manga of this.
What if he AND hashirama became hokage? Would two hokages be good or bad?
If madara had a kid the world would be screwed.
Grey World
Madara did have a son. Obito. Look how that went.
@@Black_Guy Obito isn't his child...
James lol when obito hair grow out he look like madara
N M
Madara was a surrogate father. You are being to literal. Think metaphors and similes
@@Black_Guy Yes but Obito didn't have Madara's genes which would make him more powerful.
If he did become the first Hokage, he might have created a PERFECT world of his own accord. If that was his previous nicer self back then but Madara as now? I dunno xD
Two people best kept off such positions of political power;
Madara of Naruto and Aizen of Bleach lol xD
He wouldn't had created it because he still would have gotten challenged about his idea of a perfect world by Hashirama and his brother. Madara doesn't believe that free will can lead to peace, which is why all these years he preferred to use ONLY the Tsukuyomi genjutsu upon the world as he believed it was the ONLY tool he could use to create peace.
Thulas Mash, true i like that you mentioned that he doesn't believe free will can lead to peace.
Your theories are 🔥 your like one of the best I have ever seen
It doesn't matter because the ichiraku guy is still the main character 🧐
Lame_gamer Yt why soes everyone say this?? like whats the backstory
@@Talisssyn its a joke
@@Talisssyn He was born god. That's the backstory.
Lame_gamer Yt
Its not a joke its real lo
There's a leak in boruto where The ramen guy awakens his ramenggan and defeat Jigen using his infinite Ichirakumi
Awesome vid can we have a video in which madara becomes hokage but rises above his doubts, like an alternate ending/path kinda thing
If Madara was hokage, we could’ve avoided hundreds of filler episodes lol. The uchiha would probably also still be alive?
My nigga
We wouldn't even have the story lmao
Madara: At long last, the shinobi world is at my feet!
Kid Shisui: Kotoamatsukami, bruh...
Madara: Nuuuuu!
Mifune: Koto-what now?
Daniel Mladenov Where is this boy.
Madara would still reck him, Danzo was able to do it lol
@@KingGlo300 to be fair shisui wasn't expecting it and he wasn't going to waste it on a dick face
@@ToxicQueen2787 If Danzo can unexpectedly merk Shisui then Madara would definitely destroy him.
Been waiting for this vid for so long
I love the animation! It’s exactly illustrations in your videos
Well I think tobirama would know that he is no match for Madara.So I think he will definitely use edo tensei to bring back hashirama to fight madara
Not sure where people get he's not match for Madara. They might have been more on par than Madara and Hashirama.
Hashirama beat Madara consistently where it seemed like Madara was out for blood and Hashirama was going easy just to make him back down.
Madara would likely beat Tobirama, but Tobirama might have better odds to beat Madara than Madara had to beat Hashirama.
lol tobirama is just a kid infront of Hashirama and madara, Hashirama and madara are on different league when it comes to battle in their times, don't compare nob tobirama with madara just bcuz he is Hashirama brother 🤣😁 they are Naruto and Sasuke of their time
@@serizawa8059 Tobirama is the instrument to creating the village lol without him Hashirama would never realize his dream. He may be the little brother but there’s multiple shown of him taking charge because he was the smart one…
Although I didnt think it was possible, The sprite animations are a perfect touch to make your videos even better than before. If you could you should do a what if Naruto had a kekkai genkai or doujutsu
Really good video NE.
Keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍👍.
Naruto Explained I love you videos especially your what if series
Suggestion: What if Itachi won against sasuke.
(Please heart this.)😖
Itachi let Sasuke win
@@law1443 maybe he forced it just a teeny bit
Impossible scenario. Itachis entire plan was to let Sasuke win and become a hero in konoha and also take his eyes
Itachi still dies even if he didn't let sasuke win. He was too sick.
Would’ve had him beat or killed off with the Susanoo and died shortly afterwards.
uchiha and senju ruling with an iron fist would end all wars and bring peace through strength
John Bracewell
Naw it would just cause bitterness and resentment
It would basically be Pain's ideal world, lol.
@@theazureknight9399 Pain's ideal world is the most realistic...it's our world xD
awesome video and awesome animation .. thanks to you and jo the animator 3> personally i thought if madara was accepted by the people he wont become this way but still your video is great and its very possible too
Swagkage NEEDS to make his own version of this video I gotta hear what he has to say lmao
Why so he can just blow madara the whole vid
What if tobirama used reanimation jutsu to bring back hashirama 🤷
Well... We'd get so see some pretty powerful wood.
That's probably what he'd actually do tbh
Or Tobirama would bring back both hashirama and izuna to attack madara psychologically
@@Karma-lx8ny I really think izuna would break madara. Especially having the man that killed him use him to fight madara.
Yeah, Tobirama was a tactical genius, he would bring Kage Bunshins, Flying Thunder God AND Edo Tensei to the fight. He wouldn't go down that easy to Madara, as he was as strong as Izuna (who's a bit weaker than Madara). With the help of reanimated Hashirama for power and a reanimated Izuna for emotional disbalancing, together with his tactical underhanded schemes (much like Danzo with root, but not as a jerk), he could come prepared enough, with contigency plans premade to exclude the tailed beasts from being summoned, to take care of Madara.
I think ppl think of madara as a warmonger, no he is a child of violence, he’s a nagato except he has a higher propensity for violence. Marada is a lot like the 2nd and danzo he will protect his “family” by any means necessary. I think the ninja world would be different if madara was hokage and hashi as advisor, he’s the yin to yang, a lot balance. Like when they were kids, without a war madara is a gentle soul. His life has been warped by war he’s a big softie who has had to harden his heart. I love how ppl are basing madara off of how madara is and now noticing how he was and leading from that trajectory
YESSSSSSS FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A WHAT IF!
If Madara Was first Hokage whose doing anything wrong Hashirama would stand against him and beat him.Great video!!!
Hashirama wanted him to be hokage. Why would he stand against him
@@blackjack8556 Hashirama was thinking that Madara is changed and because of that He wanted to Madara be the first Hokage
@@dejan7863 Hashirama was foolish, Tobirama put his foot down.
@@jasonfoley6502 yes but Tobirama also know that he can't take down Madara.
I love the font in this.
Tobirama can beat Madara, if he had the time to plan and strategize. Use Edo tensei to bring izuna and hashirama. That can tip the odds.....
Tobirama’s edo tensei summons were fodder
@@averagegamer456 he literally created it
So sad seeing tobirama lose( I know that that would happen but still so sad he is so cool)
He got taken out by Ginkaku and Sminkaku. Two borderline filler characters. He is the 2nd weakest Hokage, only above Tsunade
Dakota Eads naaaah
@@Dawesome97? He got taken out by 20 S rank shinobi.... Itachi is a S rank shinobi, Kisame is a S rank shinobi, Kakuzu is a S rank shinobi, Pain was a S-rank shinobi. So he basically died to 20 Kakuzu's or 20 Pain's. He's the third strongest after Naruto and Hashirama.
Coolest Hokage Tobirama would beat Madara. Tobirama is stronger than Madara because he has so much chakra.
@@OnePiece-yy1lu ?? Madara has more chakra than Tobirama
Or maybe it would've been better if there was 2 leaders serving at same time with disagreements between them broken by the council. Or have 2 leadership positions with separate duties that don't overlap but do interact. But yes I agree much of the conflict could've been avoided had Madara been named Hokage but other conflict would've happened.
Plus there is always zetsu operating in the shadows.
You forgot his own clan didn't really like him, there would have been splittering of the village. Uchiha and many others would have left.
They started to mistrust him over being bitter and paranoid.
@@jasonfoley6502 They mistrusted and hated Madara even before he was paranoid.
@@OnePiece-yy1lu They hated him even before the village was founded.
If they hated him they wouldn’t choose him as their leader🤦🏻♀️
They just didn’t cared about what he said anymore after he tried to warned them about the danger that was coming to the Uchiha clan
@@lo-fiaesthetic5382 they despised that he disrupted the peace of the village and wanted to rekindle the flames of war
It would make a great filler episode
Madara as Hokage would’ve kept these particular Bijuu:
3-Tails:Tobirama Senju
4-Tails: Hiruzen Sarutobi
9-Tails: Uzamaki Clan/Uchiha Clan Legacy
Make sense
S/O to Joe the Animator💪🏾 Great content as always N.E.
Awesome animation! ^_^
What's the the second song in the background of the video
That animation was so so badass. Where can I find more like it?
Listen bro I love your videos but when you do videos can put them fighting in the background or sum please
copyright issues. I've lost a channel before, not going through that again. I use clips sparingly. All these other creators can risk getting terminated over using clips, which falls under fair use, but I can tell you from experience, once you get the 3 strikes your ass is dusted unless you get lucky and the RUclips internal team looks over it, but for copyright even then it's on the person who gave you the strike. A bunch of anime channels got deleted last summer over using a handful of panels. I got my channel back, but not everyone is as lucky. Not going through that or taking that risk until RUclips defends creators right to fair use on their platform
Please do “What if Tsunade went to the Rain Village with Jiraiya”, I feel that it could be pretty interesting and it’s possible Jiraiya changes Nagato’s ways before he would even attack the Hidden Leaf, which could have seriously changed the world of Naruto for the better
These animations deserve my like
Great Message.
If I get an ad break with 2 ads back to back with no option to skip one more time I'm done.
Actually that will not happen because tobirama will make all kinds of scheme to make sure that leadership and authority stays with the senju.
In a sense, tobirama is the danzo in their timeline.
Imagine any village starting a war with the leaf and then next day suddenly seeing the perfect susanoo directly outside of their village. Wars would end instantly. Madara can straight up obliterate a village with that.
Amazing bro.
Cant wait for chapter 36 for Boruto next month. Keep up the good work!!
Yapa Ui is it really in 2 days
Boruto Chapter 36 releases on July 21
@@jougan144 Really I thought it was June 19 my bad if I got that wrong
@@jougan144 it's July 17 my bad
Jougan fuck yeah
Awesome video. Yep, Madara is a straight tyrannosaurus type tyrant. Dude has no mercy and feels only he is capable of ruling the world into peace. Quite the narcissist, that one.
His clan turned against him for being bitter and paranoid.
Jason Browne
He deserved it. He is the literal reason everyone else turned against them
@@Black_Guy Madara as Hokage would make his clan feel very uncomfortable.
What's the background song name bro?
Oh”NOINK”i 😂
Not busting balls I love your channel that shit just killed me
yeah, I fuck up names from time to time. I'm mainly a manga only fan. Didn't like either Naruto anime. Only dropped in to see fights I loved in the manga to see them animated. So mispronunciations happen from time to time. Not really worried about it. Thanks for the support
I love that intro
Animation's good. Sound effects could use a bit of cleaning and they're just a tad too loud imho.
Not gonna lie tobirama got oneshotted in the fight then again it does make sense since madara is way stronger
fight went just as it should have, Madara slaps him around a bit, lets Tobirama get a few shots in, and then Madara gets serious and demolishes the "high kage"
@@NarutoExplained True
@@NarutoExplained Tobirama should have beat Madara. Madara does not have Rinnegan so he shouldn't be able to do Chibaku Tensai or Meteors. Tobirama's Water Release could cut Madara's Perfect Susanoo since he was able to cut God Tree. The video is wrong.
I think it would actually go a different way, but it would have many similar points. Though Madara being advised by Hashirama is guaranteed I think Tobirama will also be involved sort of like his Danzo. However, I don't think Madara will deal with tailed beast unless he has too as he would be to captivated by their dream coming true. During the war is when we will start to see a turn as Madara would be willing to do anything to protect his village like with his brother where Tobirama will see how dangerous Madara can be forming the anbu. This will also be when Hashirama is going to convince him to create peace with the other Nations as there is no way any Nation could stand up against these two as well as Tobirama the perfect mission leader. After Hashirama's death is going to be another turning point this is where Madara will start to neglect his duties as he and Hashirama wanted this dream and built it together so it would be worthless without him. While he will be comforted by Mito it won't change a thing he will go into depression leaving most things to Tobirama. Madara dies naturally Tobirama becomes second Hokage excludes the Uchiha dies in Battle making Hiruzen Hokage who disbands the anbu recreated by Danzo in order to continue the seconds legacy of defending the leaf from the inside and outside ends up making the Uchiha get wiped out by Itachi. Who works for Danzo to protect Sasuke who ends up being taken in by Orochimaru who is then defeated like in normal story then Sasuke defeats Itachi is met by Black Zetsu who tells him Danzo is behind everything and that it's the way of the ninja world. Sasuke decides to take out Danzo and reform the ninja world. Then Zetsu tells him he can't just walk into the leaf and take out Danzo and gives him the idea to use the sound so Sasuke returns to the sound finding sage Kabuto who helps him to form the sound into a strong enough fighting force to take on the hidden leaf temporarily so he can eliminate Danzo. He takes out Danzo and as the retreat Sasuke looks towards the location of the tablet Zetsu says have you read it? Sasuke then says some of it Zetsu tells him what the tablet is and how to read it convincing him to awaken the rinnegan using material from Orochimaru's lab. He then begins the eye of the moon plan and the story goes on from there.
I think there would have been a Leaf rebellion if Madara was Hokage. Prime 3rd vs. Madara would be crazy. Hiruzen couldn't do it by himself but idk man, with the right team?
About the fight this is how Tobirama could have won
1. Uses Edo Tensei and brings back hashirama
2. Tobirama is on the water.... meaning he could have used even MORE GODLY JUTSU since he's said to be a god on the water and he was able to summon a whole tsunami with no water around him.
3. Why didn't he use flying raijn..?
Could also have reanimated Izuna to break down Madara mentally
*Tobirama has left the chat*
I think that if kishimoto was writing this he would probably make it so madara was the 2nd hokage who suddenly became rouge. Making the history off the previous hokage much more interesting
Do a video on what if Orochimaru obtained the sharingan what would he do
So uh why didn't Tobirama use Flying Thunder God at least once during that fight with Madara? Oh no Madara's skeleton sword thing is coming at me, better toss a Kunai and teleport away.
Death battle takes notes from the fight scene
Madara tried that’s what matters
He got everyone to team up against him making them work together
He became the strongest person in the series and died by someone he trusted
Again
And all he wanted was peace and make everyone dream of everything they wanted but they wanted to fight for all Eternity and naruto wanted to help sooo that’s making naruto a villain because he’s supporting fighting between the nations
And that’s why I think madara is an anti hero
I mean, sure, but he didn't look too forced fighting against shinobi alliance in 4th great war.
Do a what if Izuna was never killed by Tobirama and the village still came to be!
I know this might be an unlikely scenario. But could you do a what if one of narutos parents (either Kushina or Minato) we’re alive thru naturist childhood. Only cuz we know what life would be like if both were around what if just the single parent?
Tobirama would be like Batman from Superman Red Son 😂
Do more wat ifs plz
Madara as Hokage would be disastrous.
He would be a good Hokage m8, he decide to became a villain after he noticed that the Uchihas were being segregated. If he was the 1st or even 2nd Hokage, none of the conflicts involving the Uchiha and the Village wouldn't happen
@@insertacoolnickname1829 Uchihas weren't being segregated, Madara was paranoid.
@@insertacoolnickname1829 He would be a terrible Hokage. Even the Uchiha Clan hated him.
@@jasonfoley6502 And yet Tobirama and Danzo proved Madara right
@@ApexCalibre Danzo is a whole case by himself with his bitterness towards Hiruzen. and Madara proved Tobirama right.
Didn’t madara awaken the rinnegan towards his death. So how would he be able to use that against his fight with tobirama?
Miracle Disi Exactly this video is bullshit. He's a Madara Fanboy.
If Madara was hokage then:
1. He wouldn't have gave away all the tailed beast like Hashirama did.
2. No second, third, and fourth shinobi war.
3. The Uchihas could've not died.
4. Leaf Ninjas would've been stronger cause Madara isn't soft compare to Hashirama.
5. Naruto would've not existed.
Nah, they would've been dead anytime they got outta line. 5. Not sure how that connects.
Madara would have led the village to ten-tails because he was obsessed with he stone tablet.
And there would have been a war because Madara was dictator and a supremacist. He started the world war 1 when he attacked Mu.
Madara is trash.
@Tia Aaron
If Madara became the Hokage he would’ve focused on the village. He was the first person to tell Hoshirama his dream, about a world without war and peaceful. But if you look carefully this goes to Tobirama’s hate for Uchihas
@@lo-fiaesthetic5382 LMAO, no. It was all Hashirama's dream Madara's dream was to protect Izuna. That's it. Madara didn't give a shit about anyone else.
Madara would have led the alliance to Infinite Tsukuyomki and world domination. He was power hungry as Sage of Six Paths affirmed.
Madara went and destroyed Konoha/Iwa peace in the name of Konoha. He was a vicious warmonger.
Tobirama didn't hate the Uchiha. It was Madara's tortured tool, Obito who gladly partook in their massacre. Where do you Obito get all his hatred for the Uchiha from?
@Tia Aaron
Madara became evil after being defeated by Hoshirama, because zetsu found him and started getting him ready for his own point.
And even when Tobirama came back to life you could still see that his hate for Uchiha clan still existed
I wonder if there will be part 2?
Konoha having Matatabi, Isobu, Son Goku, Kokuo, Kurama? Dude. That is a powerhouse. Uchihas and Senjus are good jinjurikis. Plus Matatabi and Son Goku has the same element with Uchihas. That is definitely a Game over for other nations.
There should have been two leaders of the village, one representing light and the other darkness and both having same authority over the village. It would have been better this way according to me.
U should do a video a what if rin didn’t die cuz u no the all obito thing
where did you find those pictures of alive madara ?
What if Madara DIDN'T use Izanagi and actually did die in the Final Valley?
Than Black Zetsu would have waited for Indra's next reincarnation. And since Hashirama died not too long after also the next reincarnations wouldn't be Naruto and Sasuke
Madara vs old man Raikage would be epic too see
Hey great content. What if Kakashi did land that death blow to The diva path in their fight.
Doesn't matter, the key player was the Naraka Path.
Madara would’ve been a great hokage, it was all the distrust and doubts by everyone especially tobirama that started to change him.
Personally I think k that if madara became 1st hokage he wouldnt have so much hate in his heart. I dont think he would have become a tyrant, as if he was homage he might bot feel the way he did when he left the village. When he left he was filled with anger at the village for not trusting him, but if he was hokage he might earn their trust and the time line would be very different
Did you already do one about if Orochimaru became the 4th hokage? If not you should. Also one about if Jiraya became the 5th
Already did it champ. What If Orochimaru was the 4th hokage: ruclips.net/video/LPXseI9UdFE/видео.html
I love this but one massive thing was overlooked. When hashirama died I believe that madara who respected him would have buried him with his family after taking his cells. Therefore tobirama would be able to use the forbidden reanimation jutsu to raise hashirama. So the final battle would be madara with no rinegan vs reanimated hashirama and tobirama, which I believe would beat madara at the time unless madara uses hax ability to kill tobirama... even then if the jutsu isn't released he still has to contend with a reanimated hashirama. So the question is .. could madara use sharingan to genjutsu Tobirama, release reanimated hashirama even though they're both 💯 aware of madaras abilities????
At this point in time my money is surprisingly on tobirama and the reanimation as he's fast enough to dodge the susanno while the reanimated brother fights with wood style