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with that many tanky champions on higher tiers that can use frozen heart, tryndamere shouldn´t be in the a category, the get the item and the game is unplayable
Do you not expect poppy to show up as a top lane flex to support a more greedy jungle/support pick? She can forego a lot of resources and still be relevant around objectives with R and W. Is this just cope? I feel like she’s always relevant, so is putting her top allocating too many resources to her? I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Based off his % pickrates I expect to see her top at least a bit. She is my one trick and the 6 highest champs for top for him she has even or good matchups into. But in the past pro toplaners usually go on a don't play Poppy no matter how good it is speedrun any % challenge so we will see.
Sion as an S tier blind is interesting. I don’t quite see it, but I think the rest of the tier list for top looks air tight. I’m glad Irelia and sett and Mao Kai are in don’t tier. Gonna hard agree. Aatrox as a don’t though is a little confusing though. Does he not also greatly benefit from enchanter popularity? Like what specifically puts him in don’t as opposed to, C, which I think is more fair.
I think Sion is S tier because of his ability to survive lane swaps pretty well. Especially if Jinx is going to be the best ADC pairing it with a Sion is going to be pretty good
Aatrox can't survive lane Swaps and then cant find a good way into the game, actually happened this year in multiple LCK games I think. Thats why I think he isnt picked as often as last year any more
Nice list Although I'm not sure why we'd use Z instead of S. S is exceptional, now everyone one is used to SSS but we don't have to continue the power creep. The entire list could even be shifted down to A at the very top if the bottom of the list was down to F.
You can name it in any way you find comfortable, Z is just the highest at the end of the day. I like my tier lists the way you do, but stuff like energy efficiency, game titles, stocks, car standards and other things often have their own tier names, but essentially they just split it by some merit.
If we're going to break the understandable C, B, A tiers anyway with S and Z tier, then why stop there? Why not make the tier system C, B, A, S, Z, LS? You know, to make it extra confusing.
@@lightworker2956i don’t see your point, because he clearly explains his reasoning for a z tier usage plus S tier for tier lists has been a thing for a long time, and also almost everyone else uses S. this tier list is not confusing at all
He's really the hippy of League. People can only ever spectate on how either mad/insane or vision teller is he, for each of his idea in his pool of ideas He could have any special interest to yell at clouds abt, but he chose topdown moba & now League
@@Rhyolite-hyena The fun thing is that he has shown to be right a good chunk of times, but that never matters to people who like to trash him. Its like Alex Jones, he says a bunch of crazy shit but some of it actually starts to become true and now everyone is uncomfortable when he says something because they never know if that crazy thing might actually be true
It's actually funny, cuz most proplayers at world will literally just permapick DON'T, C and B champions haha Hope we won't see the same 10 champions everygame. XD Hope to see more diversity and unique drafts!
Even though she's in C, thank you for at least keeping the Morg mid dream alive lol Most people don't even have her in the mid lane tier list at all Edit: AND ZYRA!
I’m curious about Naafiri at A in the mid list because it’s the champion I understand the least. Most other champs and spots in the tier list I can follow the logic but I just don’t know that champ in the first place. Anybody know resources? I just never see that champ.
It's because the champ is an S-tier counter. You literally cannot draft things like Corki and have another weak lane because Naafiri exists. However, since she is easily countered it must be given time and space to shine, hence why it can't be higher
@@remember7671 Yeah but that's only lane phase. What are u doing with naafiri in mid/late game. It is trash for splitpush and it is trash for teamfight the only thing in which is good is catch. U can't play a champion that has a one trick playstyle, champions in general are soo overloaded so Camille for example is good in litteraly the 3 things (splitpushing, teamfight and catch), want to take a midlaner as example u got Taliyah or Jayce. Naafiri it's just raw damage 0 utility or the team and it can only go foward cause it don't got a movement which can be used as an escape (things like Oriana W move speed, jayce E move speed help a lot, but naafiri dash is just not usefull
@@santi3256 I think the logic here was the flanking potential of the Naafiri, no one is gonna go in half assed in pro play my guy and also I'm not gonna lie a naafiri on a 1v1 sidelane match up is already obnoxious enough for this mage meta. But I think that's why it was only placed in A tier because you can think of it as a Yone without E or a Garen without R, but I do think that's why Annie was placed S-Blind because even though it's blind it can shut down that Naafiri.
@@santi3256that's the thing, if naafiri ever gets a good engage, flank or something like that, she goes absolutely insane in fights, because she annihilates the carries and keeps going with the resets
I think it would be nice list and introduce the names of the pro players who helped you make the tier list and thank them for thier help. As an average consumer I dont always know pros by name alone.
hi LS not sure if you will read this but if you do can you explain why sivir is in dont tier? i think she has good matchups in the lane and good pairings with other high tier champions like karma ornn olaf. granted jinx does invalidate her but still that doesn't warrant a D rating?
I swar if this worlds Shaco isnt going to be picked... The only problem with Shaco in soloQ : AD- doesnt do as much damage as any other assaasin + if u want to be efficent on him u need to play him absolutely perfectly AP- teamates ddoenst play around boxes. IMAGINE if Shaco gets picked at Support, or even MID or TOP or JUGNLE??? He can do so much when all players on his team know how to paly around him and how to use his map control for objective taking ect. + Pro players doesnt ABSOLUTELY know how to counter him xD Placing worse wards than gold players.
I want GIANTX to sign LS as our new coach and give him the power to build the team he wants and cook up some spicy drafts, actually have a LEC team play strong champions.
If the stars ever align, you better have some seatbells, he'd make you all train for lots of Trump cards, each of you have to master 4 different classes, that still somehow miraclely fit to your strong traits, and all 5 members all having to know how to pilot the infamous "elo inflation" enchanters. If it ever comes(copium), make opponents drop their jaws all the time not knowing where to counter pick.
Yo LS, you should really check out eSports Godfather. It's a MOBA management simulator with drafting, meta changes etc. Would be really interesting to see how you approach a fresh game when you're not familiar with its meta.
the tierlist thing is weird and dumb because half the time no one uses D or F, its like professional game or movie reviewers never giving anything below a 7 because its "too mean" to say something is outright garbage S A B C D F works fine
still so sad what happend with C9 back then, for years I want to see what this man with time and resources could do for the game... even if it doesnt work out 100% it would be great to learn and surely exciting for viewers... well to bad he prob. wont do this anymore... thanks Systems
Jins could be picked B1 and played around for the last 5 years, and 90% winrate. She is busted OP, and it's so disturbing to not see her when she's "out of meta" because there aren't any hyper ADC players with an ego big enough to say "just play around me, we did it before, (2022?) we'll do it again"
As somebody that is spending a lot of time playing limited MTG and reading/analysing 17lands data I can't wait for the dumb arguments people gonna make agains this tier list. Don't think any game I know is at the same so competitive yet so against optimizing draft/champion picks.
I love LS content but he uses the worst labeling for his tiers. Ive heard his arguments before and I know he won't change, but its so distracting to my autistic brain compared to literally any other tier names. Heck they could all be nonsense words. Anything
13:40 i feel azir is while weaker he can outplay like u said where everyone knows how to play and play with him this means jng can use the azir R really well and get huge value just with the shuffle and its value means azir will be pickable i even think for pro he is blindable even if u take a lose for lane you get shuffle and get the tools to outplay quite a lot
If it's not about what will be picked and worlds and what will be the meta then why is it a worlds tier list and not just a 14.18 tier list, which anyway is too late cause 14.18 is over? I'm confused.
@@arthurverdugal4490 That's what I'm saying. Why make a tier list for what is good on 14.18 instead of what will be good in worlds? I don't get the purpose of releasing it after 14.18 is over.
@@MeistroEckhart Bc it's only best for 5 members team who can communicate & all knowing how to play with each other Also there're bunch of tricks in his mind that can change the whole dynamic of some champs, so that need to be keep in mind. Like Ivern's best item is Redemption for example, that one is finally popularized after a long time. So if you have a clan, and your clan figured out how to play out certain team dynamic(s), LS really believe in those likeliness of success
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with that many tanky champions on higher tiers that can use frozen heart, tryndamere shouldn´t be in the a category, the get the item and the game is unplayable
what would you pick kai'sa mid into?
@@joro9337champions that are susceptible to her W max ap poke build
Hey LS,
We are everyone
petition to call the fiddle tier into ZeSt tier
LS on his late night show host arc
It’s the tism
Locking Aatrox - Bel'Veth - LeBlanc - Kalista - Tahm first game thanks LS 🫡
Bet u wont 😂
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Sounds like a T1 draft fr
Call us after winning against lpl or lck
Aatrox 😂
Do you not expect poppy to show up as a top lane flex to support a more greedy jungle/support pick? She can forego a lot of resources and still be relevant around objectives with R and W. Is this just cope? I feel like she’s always relevant, so is putting her top allocating too many resources to her? I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Based off his % pickrates I expect to see her top at least a bit. She is my one trick and the 6 highest champs for top for him she has even or good matchups into.
But in the past pro toplaners usually go on a don't play Poppy no matter how good it is speedrun any % challenge so we will see.
I think you're right. Even by LS' own potentially salted standards, the flex potency should bump her up
Sion as an S tier blind is interesting. I don’t quite see it, but I think the rest of the tier list for top looks air tight. I’m glad Irelia and sett and Mao Kai are in don’t tier. Gonna hard agree. Aatrox as a don’t though is a little confusing though. Does he not also greatly benefit from enchanter popularity? Like what specifically puts him in don’t as opposed to, C, which I think is more fair.
I think Sion is S tier because of his ability to survive lane swaps pretty well. Especially if Jinx is going to be the best ADC pairing it with a Sion is going to be pretty good
Aatrox can't survive lane Swaps and then cant find a good way into the game, actually happened this year in multiple LCK games I think. Thats why I think he isnt picked as often as last year any more
@@TheSeargentStriker Agreed
No one loves enchanters more than LS
cant wait to play these in solo queue thanks for the lp pope
Hey LS it's everyone.
I really like the setup that you have, it looks cool
This lighting and set up looks good. I like it!
did he finally fix the mic
cant wait to see people quote your tier lists with "yeah but pros will never pick these"
Nice list Although I'm not sure why we'd use Z instead of S.
S is exceptional, now everyone one is used to SSS but we don't have to continue the power creep. The entire list could even be shifted down to A at the very top if the bottom of the list was down to F.
You can name it in any way you find comfortable, Z is just the highest at the end of the day. I like my tier lists the way you do, but stuff like energy efficiency, game titles, stocks, car standards and other things often have their own tier names, but essentially they just split it by some merit.
It's just a letter, it's not that deep
Too easy for xmas
one view in one minute? bro fell off prime ls would have 3 billion views rn
New room looks sick af
Ls is the only person who im glad is rich, and i have rich friends lol
Christmas tree in September though??😂
the lighting also goes hard
he's not in mordekaiser's ult anymore
Z tier could have been the LS tier. Missed opportunity my guy.
If we're going to break the understandable C, B, A tiers anyway with S and Z tier, then why stop there?
Why not make the tier system C, B, A, S, Z, LS? You know, to make it extra confusing.
@@lightworker2956i don’t see your point, because he clearly explains his reasoning for a z tier usage plus S tier for tier lists has been a thing for a long time, and also almost everyone else uses S. this tier list is not confusing at all
@@niconico9358 his reasoning is retarded. Why not just put everything down 1 grade and have his Z tier be S.
@@lightworker2956 Champs at the top are better. You're welcome.
LS in his 23823429th year of preaching his own meta and not folding to community is the most based thing ever
He's really the hippy of League. People can only ever spectate on how either mad/insane or vision teller is he, for each of his idea in his pool of ideas
He could have any special interest to yell at clouds abt, but he chose topdown moba & now League
@@Rhyolite-hyena The fun thing is that he has shown to be right a good chunk of times, but that never matters to people who like to trash him. Its like Alex Jones, he says a bunch of crazy shit but some of it actually starts to become true and now everyone is uncomfortable when he says something because they never know if that crazy thing might actually be true
@SuperXD44 even a broken clock is right twice a day. If you say enough stupid shit some of it might just stick incidentally.
Why does LS' desk setup look like an antihero who is about to give you the best quest in the entire game
This is your best rendition of world’s tierlists yet. I agree across the board with most of the placings.
Thank god you agree otherwise the tier list would be complete garbage 😮💨
Huh? Another troll?
It's actually funny, cuz most proplayers at world will literally just permapick DON'T, C and B champions haha Hope we won't see the same 10 champions everygame. XD Hope to see more diversity and unique drafts!
I love Shen. Whichever team picks Shen is who im betting on. If they have Bard AND Shen!? It's a wrap
Even though she's in C, thank you for at least keeping the Morg mid dream alive lol Most people don't even have her in the mid lane tier list at all
Edit: AND ZYRA!
Dont let Phreak see the Z tier He doesnt like that....
Should've renamed it to P tier for Phreak
Man I'd love to know the current setup for Ornn jungle.
My god yes, this!
I’m curious about Naafiri at A in the mid list because it’s the champion I understand the least. Most other champs and spots in the tier list I can follow the logic but I just don’t know that champ in the first place. Anybody know resources? I just never see that champ.
Idk i dont get it either. It is a champion that is never working in pro play cause it's extremely predictable and easy to counter
It's because the champ is an S-tier counter. You literally cannot draft things like Corki and have another weak lane because Naafiri exists. However, since she is easily countered it must be given time and space to shine, hence why it can't be higher
@@remember7671 Yeah but that's only lane phase. What are u doing with naafiri in mid/late game. It is trash for splitpush and it is trash for teamfight the only thing in which is good is catch. U can't play a champion that has a one trick playstyle, champions in general are soo overloaded so Camille for example is good in litteraly the 3 things (splitpushing, teamfight and catch), want to take a midlaner as example u got Taliyah or Jayce. Naafiri it's just raw damage 0 utility or the team and it can only go foward cause it don't got a movement which can be used as an escape (things like Oriana W move speed, jayce E move speed help a lot, but naafiri dash is just not usefull
@@santi3256 I think the logic here was the flanking potential of the Naafiri, no one is gonna go in half assed in pro play my guy and also I'm not gonna lie a naafiri on a 1v1 sidelane match up is already obnoxious enough for this mage meta. But I think that's why it was only placed in A tier because you can think of it as a Yone without E or a Garen without R, but I do think that's why Annie was placed S-Blind because even though it's blind it can shut down that Naafiri.
@@santi3256that's the thing, if naafiri ever gets a good engage, flank or something like that, she goes absolutely insane in fights, because she annihilates the carries and keeps going with the resets
I think it would be nice list and introduce the names of the pro players who helped you make the tier list and thank them for thier help.
As an average consumer I dont always know pros by name alone.
New setup is really nice! Always love the tier lists
hi LS not sure if you will read this but if you do can you explain why sivir is in dont tier? i think she has good matchups in the lane and good pairings with other high tier champions like karma ornn olaf. granted jinx does invalidate her but still that doesn't warrant a D rating?
I have a question. Since the meta is all squishy, relatively immobile champs on mid, jg and adc, why is zed bad in competitive?
3:15 Come on guys he can barely hold his own laugh here.
what spots is janna top good in? i would love to play it in my semi-competitive league but not sure what to build/ when is best to pick in
Z tier still makes me laugh
I live for LS tierlist releases, even though I already know whats to come!
after watching the whole video, I approve the list
I swar if this worlds Shaco isnt going to be picked... The only problem with Shaco in soloQ : AD- doesnt do as much damage as any other assaasin + if u want to be efficent on him u need to play him absolutely perfectly AP- teamates ddoenst play around boxes. IMAGINE if Shaco gets picked at Support, or even MID or TOP or JUGNLE??? He can do so much when all players on his team know how to paly around him and how to use his map control for objective taking ect. + Pro players doesnt ABSOLUTELY know how to counter him xD Placing worse wards than gold players.
I want GIANTX to sign LS as our new coach and give him the power to build the team he wants and cook up some spicy drafts, actually have a LEC team play strong champions.
If the stars ever align, you better have some seatbells, he'd make you all train for lots of Trump cards, each of you have to master 4 different classes, that still somehow miraclely fit to your strong traits, and all 5 members all having to know how to pilot the infamous "elo inflation" enchanters.
If it ever comes(copium), make opponents drop their jaws all the time not knowing where to counter pick.
@@Rhyolite-hyena Sounds like one hell of a split 😂😂
The christmas tree warms my heart
Yo LS, you should really check out eSports Godfather. It's a MOBA management simulator with drafting, meta changes etc.
Would be really interesting to see how you approach a fresh game when you're not familiar with its meta.
the tierlist thing is weird and dumb because half the time no one uses D or F, its like professional game or movie reviewers never giving anything below a 7 because its "too mean" to say something is outright garbage
S A B C D F works fine
El Truco tier 0 in the jungle??
I may come back to watch Worlds now
they not gonna play udyr💀
still so sad what happend with C9 back then, for years I want to see what this man with time and resources could do for the game... even if it doesnt work out 100% it would be great to learn and surely exciting for viewers... well to bad he prob. wont do this anymore... thanks Systems
It's so sad we never actually got to fully see LS's view of the game tried in pro play. Even worse, we got blue balled by two weeks in C9. 😢
Viking did pick Udyr. Their execution were god awful tho. Poor soFM
Jins could be picked B1 and played around for the last 5 years, and 90% winrate.
She is busted OP, and it's so disturbing to not see her when she's "out of meta" because there aren't any hyper ADC players with an ego big enough to say "just play around me, we did it before, (2022?) we'll do it again"
What's the Warwick setup? I don't doubt he's strong I just hardly see anyone playing him Jungle.
As somebody that is spending a lot of time playing limited MTG and reading/analysing 17lands data I can't wait for the dumb arguments people gonna make agains this tier list. Don't think any game I know is at the same so competitive yet so against optimizing draft/champion picks.
You forgot Zyra botlane my pastor. The pick is up there.
I love LS content but he uses the worst labeling for his tiers. Ive heard his arguments before and I know he won't change, but its so distracting to my autistic brain compared to literally any other tier names. Heck they could all be nonsense words. Anything
Z Tier... people usually call that OP champions. But trying to be different and relevant, kudos
Love the what will be played section with the % chance of being played. Makes a good summary for someone who doesn't watch a lot of League.
If you’re so against using SS because of its association with the Austrian painter why not just add D tier and shift everything down 🤨
It's crazy that LS ranked Renekton at S (blind), if you know the history is that he despise this champ 😂
The nerf on w max vlad won’t hit the worlds right? (Or any ohter nerfs) I’m not sure how it works that’s why I’m asking
Is vex that bad to be in the don't? I do agree that the champion has it's few share of problems, but don't tier is kinda crazy
13:40 i feel azir is while weaker he can outplay like u said where everyone knows how to play and play with him this means jng can use the azir R really well and get huge value just with the shuffle and its value means azir will be pickable i even think for pro he is blindable even if u take a lose for lane you get shuffle and get the tools to outplay quite a lot
Patron here, Leblanc support S counter what
Someone explain please huh what it wasn’t in the VoD either
How fking dare you skip right over anivia.. the ONLY reason i clicked on the video 😑
everyone laughs about junglr ornn until he shows up to scuttle at 3/15 in game with a bami cinder.
If it's not about what will be picked and worlds and what will be the meta then why is it a worlds tier list and not just a 14.18 tier list, which anyway is too late cause 14.18 is over? I'm confused.
14.18 is the patch worlds is played
@@arthurverdugal4490 That's what I'm saying. Why make a tier list for what is good on 14.18 instead of what will be good in worlds? I don't get the purpose of releasing it after 14.18 is over.
@@MeistroEckhart Bc it's only best for 5 members team who can communicate & all knowing how to play with each other
Also there're bunch of tricks in his mind that can change the whole dynamic of some champs, so that need to be keep in mind. Like Ivern's best item is Redemption for example, that one is finally popularized after a long time.
So if you have a clan, and your clan figured out how to play out certain team dynamic(s), LS really believe in those likeliness of success
@@Rhyolite-hyena dude put janna top as highest tier what is he smoking tho
U have brainrot
Bruh why do you think Swain is going to be picked? He didnt get picked once in the lck, he aint getting picked here
Nunu is a weird hill to die on especially after he was proven wrong on stream and left without arguments
Guys who replaced LS because I think I see Renekton in S tier for some reason on a LS tier list.
I'm sorry but what the fuck is le blanc doing in Don't tier?????
After seeing Quad's Vex today, I agree with the Mid Tierlist XDD
1:10 - 2:31 in other words LS is doing it to annoy Phreak 😁
My man said Udyr flex support ... and then didnt even put him in the tier list....
Also fiddle will counter most of the champs that will be played top
I never understand why LS will place Gnar so low on the toplane lists
can't wait for tierlists to just be 5 random letters, with s being the bottom.
Beautiful video Nick! Thank you for this overview.
This looks more like a NA tierlist rather than a worlds tierlist.
Janna would get absolutely smoked by yone/skarner/sej
Not a twitter/x user here: Is he not using "ss" tier for its meaning in ww2?
Just wanted to say you look buff as fuck! Keep going bro
10:20 caps played it in champions queue against yone
What is the meaning of z blind and z counter?
These lists of what pros will never play 😂 Janna top 😂
Just curious, where would you place Quinn Mid?
how is Syndra A she is by far the strongest mid this patch
Someone need to exolain Leblanc S counter in support
love the setup. The xmas tree is fking devious though
My guy you look so good and healthy, makes one happy to see :)!
Kat ins S teir no freaking way. No one is gonna play her.
bro is actually delusional, its confirmed
LS on his way to make day 1 most stupid takes ever
Kaisa AP what kind of runes does she need to have?
i wanna see the support uydr that was mentioned
completely disagree. thanks.
i guess its christmas in korea
Akali in B is ridiculous
Is this a joke or i missed something? 🤔
Bro has a Christmas tree up in September
mordekaiser ult looking great bro
Jinx has been do nothing and win for a whole now
I would like to see mid Renekton in lane but not teamfights. He only has one speed, Flash W.
That can be all you really need
LOOK AT THOSE BICEPS BABY KACHOWWWWWW
4:55 Syndra? Was I in coma at that time?
welcome saints to the church of imls
You forgot Fiddle in ADC list 🤔