Michel Thomas Method: Behind the Scenes of a Live 4-Day Recording to Learn Korean
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I've taken on some ambitious language learning projects in the past, from learning Italian in London to a 2-week intensive Thai mission in Bangkok.
But Korean in four days?
Well, that's a little intimidating, even by my standards. Especially as it's considered a "super-hard language" for native English speakers.
Luckily, I was using the Michel Thomas method and had a lot of help along the way.
In this documentary, you'll watch the creation of the brand new Michel Thomas Korean course, with me as one of the students.
So how much did I learn in 4 days with my fellow student, Cerys? Did I survive this intense language learning mission? Check out the documentary to find out!
Featuring:
• Derek Driggs - Course Tutor
• Dr. Jieun Kiaer - Associate Professor in Korean Language and Linguistics, Oxford University
• Cerys Hadwin-Owen, Course Student (@ceryshadwinowen)
• Helen Gilhooly - Editor
• Rowan Laxton - Recording Engineer
• Sarah Cole - Publishing Director, Teach Yourself
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Finally, a person who really understand how learning should be. I hope all public schools apply some of the concept in this method in teaching students.
onigiri chan you are right about schools definitely should use this method
I have been learning Korean for 3 years and am only at early intermediate level. I confirm that it is hard, really hard. It takes years to become proficient.
I love the editor, such a gentle soul. She speaks softly and nurturing like a caring mom.
Thank you so much for giving me an opportunity to work with you in editing this. I hope everyone enjoys.
Do did a great job!
This is absolutely wonderful. I tip my hat to both of the students. A few years ago, I was lucky enough to have a similar experience with the creators of the Michel Thomas Greek course, and found it both exhilerating and exhausting. My course, though, was only one day long . I cannot imagine how much energy is required for a full four days. Well done to everybody involved.
Thanks Anthony, good to hear from you. It was shattering. But heaps of fun.
@@storylearning are there people around the globe that teach the MT method in person? I would love to experience this!!!
Being Korean, I can say that those are the most frequently used expressions in Korea and you guys have improved so much day after day, no gringo accent at all.
Thank you for sharing this! I love the Michel Thomas Method, but I do tweak it a bit. It is an amazing way for me to start a language. I learn how to start talking immediately, and when the program is finished, I feel like I have an amazing foundation for moving on to learning the most common spoken vocab words. The other thing I have realized is that the method helps me get more fluent with the words I know. Dr. Paul Nation says you should start working on fluency with the vocab you do know as you learn, both in speaking and listening. This program showed me how amazing it is to do sentence mining: taking the vocab I know and mixing them up in sentences. The more I do this, the better it also seems to help my listening comprehension for those particular words. I differ from the program in that I do add the phrases to flashcards and etc. Regardless, I have used a lot of his method in my learning of Russian, and it is truly helped me these past couple of months. Still a ways to go, but I am excited!
Cool! Ultimately, the more you understand yourself, and what works for you, the freer you will be to experiment!
@@storylearning Thanks again for being an inspiration. I have been working on my languages, and I look forward to one day going to the polyglot conference and meeting all of you who have inspired me!
I'm doing the Russian Advanced Course on MT. Am positively shocked by how well it has enabled me to attain confidence in Russian!
I started learning when I arrived in Georgia for a month and within the first couple hours of active listening, I was able to handle a fight with a Babushka downstairs who was complaining about water from my apartment leaking into hers
She threatened to call the police and I was able to catch that due to the "militia" mnemonic I was taught
I bought her chocolates after letting her know I got it fixed 😁
@@RexGalilae 😂 that is application at its finest!
@@joshabolarin
It was a hell of a ride 😅
Nothing accelerates language learning better than survival situations
I just got here from your video on Derek. Wow! This is so impressive! And honestly, this is what my MTC experience looked like. We weren’t full immersion from day 1 when I was there (2008). But this is a lot what our language class portions of each day looked like from day 1. And we did progress quite rapidly. This program looks so neat. 여러분이 잘 했어요! 계속 공부하세요!!! ❤️
This was so nice to watch. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Greetings from Panama!
I really like the Michel Thomas courses, this was a very cool behind the scenes.
Thanks Luke!
Very interesting. Makes you think, again, about language learning.
this is actually amazing. Imagine if schools did this. Maybe my 8 years of learning irish wouldnt be useless
Michel Thomas, Learning with Paul Noble, and Language Transfer are the top dogs for sure. It always feels good to learn a language with these methods.
Are these apps?
@amens_journey They're available in app form. Paul Noble is the only one that you must have a subscription to a source like audible or Everand
6:59 That's Helen, the teacher for the Japanese foundation course
Was lucky enough to be invited to create a Michel Thomas course and enjoyed the process. Michel was an amazing guy and a personal hero of mine.
Hi Paul, that’s great! How similar was what you saw here to your experience? Which language did you create?
I'm guessing you were the "rubber ducks" dude in the Russian course?
It's quite crazy to realize that I've been using my own similar method as this when I'm teaching! Not to mention that this is my very first time I've heard of Michel Thomas Method.
But in my opinion, it's also good to learn how to pronounce things properly first (briefly) and then apply this method with some foundation of grammars. It will be significantly helpful to boost this method to work better.
Korean is such a beautiful language ❤ the best in the world
That video completely rocked. I’m going to be doing a review of the Korean course when it comes out for the Michel Thomas company here in the states. I was able to collaborate with them on reviewing several of their languages for which I’m waiting for them to come in the mail and I will be doing a couple of projects with them as well. Wow! You were not bad at all! You should keep it up! Good job.
Thank you Chenelle!
Michel Thomas courses are the BEST ..so enjoyable..I'm on the advanced French and it's great but Korean? May be a bit outta my league 😁
Amazing video
Good job guys. The finished product I'm sure is great. It is a lot of pressure when it's you in the chair and on the mic. Much more relaxing for the people who get to listen at home.
Thanks for your comment!
Well, great impression
Years ago I came across an audio course by Michael Thomas and it was about teaching English to French people and because I have a solid base in French I gave it a shot, to my surprise the course was one of the best courses out there that teach English especially the grammatical part of it and I think what made the success of the course is not only the methodology of Michel Thomas but it is due to the teacher himself and I’m not saying that because I liked the teacher but because there were a follow up to the course with another teacher and unfortunately it was a completely different experience - in a negative way - so whoever is reading my comment I highly recommend it if you’re good at French
Hello Zudane,
I would be VERY interested in teaching English to French and Spanish speaking people using the Michel Thomas method. I cannot find materials anywhere. If you can help it would be much appreciated!
@@maureencrawford2275 what do you need exactly?
@@maureencrawford9246 the course is available on amazon, it's an audio program.
If you can't afford it (it's not that expensive) let me know and i will see if i can send it to you.
@@maureencrawford9246
Maybe this is too late but I suggest you look into the "Knowledge Transfer" project.
The founder is currently running a totally free language learning course based on the MT method and is actively looking for teachers
He also has a free ebook that formulates the method and is an excellent training manual for prospective teachers like you, even if you're not interested in joining the programme per se
PLEASE do an intermediate course and a language builder !!!
" How I learned Korean in 4 days" I think it's 4x 365 days +1 leap year.
...or 5 leap years!
The best language learning method I've come across was for Latin.
A series of two books: Lingua latina per se illustrata
Same, Hans Ørbeg was a genius. RIP
Life got too busy for me, unfortunately, and I couldn't complete Familia Romana
I'd love a Michel Thomas take on Latin tbh. I can rapidly learn languages while on commute
This is pretty cool, but this method does seem to butt up against the comprehensible input method. I wonder how long-term these results actually last since you essentially have to think super hard about grammar structure instead of acquiring it naturally. Would like to hear a Korean update from Olly.
I don't think this conflicts with comprehensible input.
If anything, I'd call this method "comprehensible output" due to how well it complements and is analogous to it
CI has leaves the user inexperienced and unconfident at forming sentences while MT leaves them clueless at comprehension. I say this as someone who has used Lingua Latina, Knowledge Transfer and MT
I prefer an approach where I get upto speed using MT first and then hammer my knowledge down using CI. Curious to know your thoughts
Im surprised this is the first time I see this
It took me four days to say :
Anyong haseyo correctly.
I need someone like the female student in my life.
good
It bothers me when I hear "you won't be learning any grammar rules" because, actually, Michel Thomas courses are all about grammar and structure of the language, they lack a lot of vocabulary but they do a fantastic job to teach GRAMMAR, yeaah, GRAMMAR, why polyglots and people involved in learning/teaching languages fear using that word, GRAMMAR. What's wrong with grammar? Why should we/they keep saying "don't worry, you won't learn any grammar", you will, especially with Michel Thomas method which is to make you understand the logic of the language and with the few vocabulary that they provide during their courses, you will learn how to build sentences (purely GRAMMAR). Period.
Perhaps they mean that there is no actual grammar learning. I use both Michel and Paul Nobel method to learn French. I have learnt conjugate verbs just by listening, so grammar is there but not that way I for example studied at shcool.
You're right. The method is based on grammar and specifically around learning the verb forms. But you don't learn 'grammar rules' in the way you do with more traditional courses. You learn through speaking and figuring things out, but not by being given a rule like 'remove the 'er' at the end of the verb and add the following endings...'. Indeed the word 'grammar' always freaks people out. Michel Thomas referred to it as the structure. He used the analogy, 'I build the house (i.e. grammar/structure), but it's up to you to decorate it (i.e. with vocabulary.)
Hi Murillo, it’s the word “rules” that’s important here. You’re right, there’s tonnes of grammar, but not taught explicitly in rules.
Murrilo Costa you must be in the 1% of people who weren't traumatised by "grammar" at school. Leading pedagogy studies have shown that learing grammar rules impedes beginners' performance - the ones who sat and did loads of grammar and then learnt to speak actualled performed worse overall than learners who learnt how to speak first, then the whys and wherefores (grammar rules) after. The main reason that word and even grammatical terms are avoided in beginner classes is skill in psychology, not fear as you propose. The majority of people who hear those terms (and there is absolutely no need to teach a beginner grammatical terms) have emotional reactions them which impede learning, like how you have an emotional response to *not* hearing. So what's wrong with grammar? It impedes overall acquistion and skill to teach out and out grammar to beginners. If you're a teacher you can help your students more by working with their psychology rather than against it (which is what most traditional learning does)
How does one design a michael thomas style course?
The thing that I don't get is after the 8hr Michel Thomas courses ...then what?...I tried French and I felt totally in let down because I didn't have a clue what to do next.
Anyone know what the learner is supposed to do after the MT courses are over?
Which level did you get through? I did the French Advanced/Foundation course (forgot the name, the second level of the series with a different set of students) and found it an awesome way to get used to constructing French sentences with almost every different tense. After that I went through Assimil and listened to a lot of the Inner French podcast, but it’s up to the learner.
Reading with a tool like Readlang, Language Tools or Linq is another good step for after the course. Reading a lot of short articles and books is the next step, I think. Input through listening and reading is a fast way of building vocabulary I’ve found, especially if you find the material interesting. Check out 1jour1actu or Le Monde for some reading practice.
I think Korean is now a category 5 language
I start a new language with Michel Thomas.
Spanish, French, German, Japanese.
I use it for basic vocabulary, and the rules (which I still use all the time especially for Spanish verbs).
I thought it was precisely scripted and all the mistakes were on purpose.
The editing is fantastic to be sure!
Never heard of this company
please when will this "foundation Korean" be released? It is only on "pre-order". I have been waiting for this for 2 year.
Prospective date is May 2020 for Foundation Korean.
Keep in mind it could change, as the Foundation Swedish changed four times for the release dates. June, 20/ 2018 then April, 30/ 2019 then to Jan., 22/ 2019, and finally the actual release was on Aug.,13/ 2019.
Sometimes it seems they plan for a release, but still haven't finished the program, so the delays. The company seem to be hesitant to give out dates now.
@@alanguages Thanks a lot
Dr.(?) Driggs sounds like he is from down the road! How did a western American get to Oxford??
It took me four days to learn the script and the sounds. And I already forgot them...
It took Abt the same time but i still recall most of the alphabets. The compound alphabets are still tricky but that's mostly cause i don't read many words with them. Practicing reading, even if you don't understand, helped me retain and I'll probably never forget the basic letters altho i don't recall the compound letters at the moment, at least that's less for me to review haha. I've decided to focus on my Spanish for now.
Certainly not how I would learn, but seems like a decent method if you need to go on a trip and wanna kickstart your learning.
"Language learning should be like a train ride" is just wishful thinking though, haha.
Olly , are you related to Derren Brown by any chance? You look and sound like him.Seriously.
Can you speak korean now?
اريد ترجمة باللغة العربية 🙏
It really is a great method for learning. I loved the Russian course. Sit back, and just listen and speak. So simple, without clutter, or tedious exercises.
As for instructors, I use the Michel Thomas method in teaching English, and it has great results. I much prefer it to the general ESL methods. However, it requires the teacher to have a good knowledge of the native tongue of the students, or at least with the help of someone who has. Of its weaknesses, it doesn't really teach reading or writing. On a side note, I am still unsure who came up with this method first, Michel Thomas or Pimsleur, because they share the same principles?
Adel Zaptia how many lessons are you suppose to do?
I'm certain the Korean lady is great in Korean :)
Thomas method is really good but not perfect since it depends heavily on word for word translation (I'm writing this comment regarding the French course)
It seams you change the title. Doesn't it? Well this one's more "realistic" than "I learned Korean in four days" anyway.
That’s why I changed it :)
They only taught 'thank you' at the end of the course??
Is this the level of ability for those that call themselves polyglots?
Looks like marriage therapy :)